Voilà plusieurs années que je prépare mes voyages en glanant de précieuses informations distillées dans les différents échanges de ce forum. Je profite donc ce post pour remercier tous ceux qui prennent le temps de faire part de leurs expériences. Après plusieurs heures de recherche, j'ai pu constaté que certains forumeur(euses) connaissent particulièrement bien la région concernée, alors j'espère que vous pourrez m'apporter votre éclairage.
Aller, aujourd'hui c'est moi qui lance un sujet !
Je vous explique donc mon cas... Nous partons du 15/08 au 01/09 dans le sud du Maroc. C'est évidemment pas la meilleure saison, mais pour pouvoir partager ces moments avec nos enfants (12 et 15 ans), nous n'avons guère le choix. Bref, je prévois 3 jours et 2 nuits pour aller de Foum Zguid (départ fin de matinée) à Mirleft (arrivée fin d'aprés-midi). Je pense qu'en termes de temps on devrait être bon. Là où ça se complique c'est le choix de l'itinéraire !! j'ai envisagé plusieurs options que je vous présente ci-dessous :
Plus tous les autres trajets et d'étapes auxquels je n'ai pas pensé...
Pour ma part, je partirai plutôt sur la première option car elle permet d'optimiser le temps de trajet tout en passant par Tafraoute. J'ai cru comprendre en lisant les différents posts que c'est une région magnifique qui mérite le détour. Par contre je ne suis pas sûre que l'étape sur Tata soit inintéressante.
Je suis donc preneur de tous les avis et conseils qui pourront m'aider à choisir le meilleur itinéraire : temps de circulation, état des routes, paysages le long de la route, intérêt de chacune des étapes, étapes intermédiaires, hôtels et restaurants, etc...
Au vu de la chaleur en cette période, ce serait vraiment parfait si nous pouvions trouver à chaque étape des endroits équipés d'une piscine 😛
Bonsoir,
En avis perso, dans ton truc, et pas forcément dans l'ordre!:
Tafraoute= 2 Nuits; Si tu as des sous, les Amandiers ont une piscine.
Taroudant= Les Orangers (à l'est de Taroudant) ont une piscine.
Tata= J'aime bien ce coin (la place à la Bibiche, le marché; Le bémol est que le "Relai des Sables à une piscine aussi glauque que l'accueil des gérants !!
Foum-Z'Guid= Un truc basique mais pas trop mal (auberge Iriki); Piscine? je ne me souviens pas.
Enfin, faire Foum'/ Mirleft dans la journée, c'est pour des Japonais.
Il y a qq temps:
Bouffe à Foum-Z'Guid; Départ vers 15h; Stop à Tissint, arrivée à Tafraoute vers 20/21h.
Mais chacun son rythme.
Accessoirement, en terre d'Islam, là ou on it "Inch'Allah", la notion de "Piscine" est parfois aussi aléatoire que la notion de "Bouillon de culture"! Mais ceux qui en seraient morts ne se sont jamais plaints sur cet estimable forum!!!!
Perso, j'ai survécu! Tout dépend de la chaleur dont on souffre à l'air libre et de l’apaisement que l'on espère trouver dans un milieu humide!!
Bonne prépa,
Razul
Tafraout , l'hôtel l'arganier à une piscine , prix doux .
Tata , j'aime , mais il est vrai que le relais des sables , non et l'hôtel de la Renaissance pas de piscine .
Foum Zguig pas de piscine à l'hôtel Iriki , mais l'hôtel Bab Rimal en a une , les prix sont un chouïa plus cher .
je dirais seulement de laisser sa chance à tafraout 🙂
1) pour sa situation dans la vallée des Ammelnes
2) pour l'auberge de l'arganier des Ammelns, son accueil et sa jolie piscine que tes jeunes vont apprécié +++
la piscine ce sera la cerise sur la gâteau si on trouve mais ce n'est pas indispensable.
J'ai prévu 2 jours pour faire foum z'guig - Tafraoute. J'hésite à passer par la N10 avec une étape à Talouine ou par la N12 avec une étape à Tata. As tu un avis sur le choix entre ces 2 itinéraires ?
Pour l'itinéraire via Tata, on peut peut être dépasser Tata pour trouver un coin sympa pour l'étape, vers imitek par exemple . A priori les solutions d'hébergement sur Tata sont très limitées et les avis plutôt moyen.
Il faut que tu revois entièrement t'es donnees horaires .
Il faut compter 40/50 kms heure en moyenne , sans compter les arrêts photos .
C'est une region que j'aime bien et que je parcours depuis de nombreuses années .
Foum Zguig a Taliouine il y a une route superbe quî part à droite Apres Tissint , a Taliouine piscine à l'hôtel du Safran , mais Escale rando est mieux .
Pour moi Tafraoute est incontournable, mais j'aime aussi Tata est ses oasis qui ne peuvent se faire en 1 ou 2 heures .
Tafraout -Mirleft 2heures 50', meme un japonais ne le ferait pas . Tiznit mérite une belle balade dans son souk , Mirleft franchement rien à voir . De Tiznit pour Mirleft prendre la route côtière ca vaut le détour en passant par Aglou .
Pour les piscines tu verras mon post de reponse à Razul .
Bonne continuation .
Hannah
Pour les temps de trajet je me suis basé sur une moyenne de 60 Km/h maxi, mais a priori je suis encore loin du compte....
Combien de temps faut il compter pour l'itinéraire foum zguig - Taliouine via tissint ? L’itinéraire via Tata et issafn est-il plus rapide ?
Encore mieux qu'une piscine dans un hôtel serait de trouver des coins naturels avec de l'eau. C'est ce qui m'avait donné envie initialent de faire le détour jusqu’à amtoudi. J'imagine que ça doit être difficile à trouver dans cette région et à cette époque... Est-ce que vous en connaissez en direction de tafraoute ?
Des endroits comme Amtoudi je ne connais pas hélas '
Une petite oasis ( Tagmoute ) avec de l'eau entre Tata et Tafraout , de l'eau mais on ne peut pas se baigner , ensuite la route suit un cours d'eau mais en août je suppose qu'il, est à sec ou presque .
De FoumZguig à Taliouine j'ai fait ce trajet par Tissint en Maî dernier , je n'ai plus idee du temps passé , mais beaucoup plus que ce que vous comptez .
C'est une très belle region , mais elle demande un peu de temps pour la decouvrir .
Bonne balade .
A priori tout le monde semble d'accord pour un itinéraire via Tafraoute. Amtoudi ce sera donc pour une autre fois...
bonjour
dommage de ne pas aller à Amtoudi , de puis Tafraout on peut y redescendre !
c'est vraiment un endroit magnifique et possibilité de se baigner dans les bassins ...j'y reste toujours au moins 2 nuits tellement le coin est charmant et calme !
ensuite on peut rejoindre la côte !
bon voyage
francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
C'est vrai que de Tafraout on peut passer à Amtoudi en prenant la route qui passe à Ifrane de l'Anti Atlas et rejoindre Mirleft par Sidi Ifni , nettement plus long mais tres beau .
Malheureusement nous n'aurons pas le temps de faire tafraout et amtoudi... le choix entre les 2 est décidément très difficile !!!
Pour le trajet Tata - Tafraoute, Google map propose De prendre à gauche à issafn pour rejoindre tafraout sans avoir à faire le détour par igherm. Est-ce que vous savez si cette route est goudronnée ? avec une Logan de loc, on aimerait éviter les pistes trop dures... mais ca Google map il ne le dis pas !
Je ne veux pas m'avancer , mais il me semble qu'il y a de la piste , et avec une Logan on vas partout ou presque , mais pas si elle est en location . La route partirait d'Issafen pour arriver ver Ait Abdhallah ? Vers Ait Abdallah je n'ai pas vu d'indication et je prend souvent cette route pour aller à Igherm .
Mais le goudron arrive vite , alors si des fois tu tente tu me tiens au courant , ce seras un plaisir pour moi de devouvrir un autre itineraire .
Les deux autres routes passent par Igherm , mais c'est un vrai plaisir .
Je viens de tomber sur une discussion avec Jeanphifi qui date de l'année dernière... il se posait quasiment la même question que moi 😉 :
Quelle route entre Zagora et Tafraoute?
A priori il a pris cette route entre Issafen (R109) et Azgour (R106, un peu plus au sud que Ait Abdhallah) et il semble qu'elle soit en bon état malgré un passage bien pourri sur une centaine de mètres. quelqu'un d'autre a t'il eu l'occasion de passer par là dernièrement ?
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Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.