après avoir parcouru forums, guides et beaucoup d'avis différents, voici mon itinéraire pour mes 4 semaines au Japon en août!
Je suis bien consciente de bouger beaucoup, mais en général on fonctionne comme ça en voyage, après ça dépendra de ce qu'il y aura à faire sur place! Je voyage avec 2 personnes différentes 2 semaines + 2 semaines, ça complique un peu les choses mais bon... je pense m'être pas trop mal débrouillée... j'aimerais que les 2 voient les différents aspects du Japon!
Si vous trouvez des incohérences de parcours, si vous avez des propositions, des conseils, évidemment je prends!
jour 1: TOKYO (nuit à Tokyo)
jour 2: Kamakura (nuit à Tokyo)
jour 3: TOKYO (nuit à Kyoto)
jour 4: KYOTO (nuit à Kyoto)
jour 5: KYOTO (nuit à Kyoto)
jour 6: NARA (nuit à Kyoto)
jour 7: OSAKA (nuit à Kyoto)
jour 8: HIROSHIMA + MIYAJIMA (nuit sur place)
jour 9: MIYAJIMA + HIROSHIMA
jour 10: NAGOYA? (pour un trajet moins long! mais est-ce sympa à visiter?) KOBE? OKAYAMA? ou autre endroit à me conseiller?)
jour 11: NIKKO
jour 12: MATSUSHIMA (où en particulier? où loger? Sendai?)
jour 13: MATSUSHIMA (nuit à Tokyo)
jour 14: TOKYO (nuit à Tokyo)
jour 15: TOKYO (nuit à Tokyo) échange de binôme!
jour 16: KYOTO
jour 17: KYOTO
jour 18: MATSUE? (pour un trajet moins long! ou autre endroit à me conseiller?) jour 19: BEPPU
jour 20: TAKAYAMA / SHIRAKAWAGO (nuit à Takayama)
jour 21: TAKAYAMA / KANAZAWA? (nuit à Takayama)
jour 22: TOKYO (nuit à Tokyo) jusqu'au retour! 7 jours à Tokyo
Qu'en pensez-vous?
Y'a-t-il des incohérences ou des trop longs trajets?
Ce que je veux voir absolument: - Tokyo (forcément!) - Kyoto - Nikko - Hiroshima - Miyajima - Kanazawa / Takayama / Shirakawa-go (ou 2 des 3 ou un des 3 si c'est trop ressemblant!) - Beppu - Matsushima (Sendai)
BEPPU-TAKAYAMA... ça fait un peu loin... zut! j'ai pas fait attention hier soir!
Est-ce intéressant de rester à Beppu pour la nuit ou est-ce mieux de repartir passer la nuit vers Okayama (ou autre ville sympa) pour se rapprocher , y passer une journée et ne passer qu'une journée complète à Takayama?
Le début est très bien mais a partir du 10, tu bouge trop et reste jamais assez pour rentabilisé le déplacement.
Je te propose de changer l'ordre des villes. En début du mois aout, tu as le festival Nebuta Matsuri à Aomori (au nord de Matsushima)
Je te propose de supprimer Nagoya pour Aomori. Ce qui donne
jour 1: Tokyo (nuit à Tokyo)
jour 2: Kamakura (nuit à Tokyo)
jour 3: Tokyo (nuit à Tokyo)
jour 4: Nikko (nuit à Nikko)
jour 5: Aomori (nuit à la belle étoile)
jour 6: Matsushima (nuit à matsushima)
jour 7: Matsushima (nuit à Tokyo)
jour 8: Kyoto (nuit à Kyoto)
jour 9: Kyoto (nuit à Kyoto)
jour 10: Nara (nuit à Kyoto)
jour 11: Osaka (nuit à Kyoto)
jour 12: Hiroshima + Miyajima (nuit sur place)
jour 13: Hiroshima + Miyajima
jour 14: Tokyo (nuit à Tokyo)
Le fait de changer de binome donne aussi quelque problème comme les visites. Si c'est le 1er voyage pour les 2 personnes, ils vont exemple surement vouloir voir les incontournable de Kyoto. Tu va donc te retrouver a visiter 2 fois les même temple.
De ton point de vu, la journée 16 et 17 est un peu du "gachie"
la suite plus tard ... manger
"Un bivouac c'est un peu comme le dépucelage et la première cuite, une espèce de rite qui fais de toi un homme" (MonsieurHenri du site randonner-léger.org).
Merciii!
ça me semble très intéressant dans cet ordre et beaucoup plus logique, merciii!
par contre le hic, c'est que j'ai réservé les nuits à Tokyo, Kyoto et Miyajima et j'ai bien peur que ce soit trop tard pour en retrouver au même prix ou même trouver des places disponibles à nouveau! :(
Zut!
Je vais me renseigner sinon ton itinéraire est vraiment super dans cet ordre! merci beaucoup André!!!
J'ai hâte de lire la suite!
... à Aomori et Matsushima vont se dérouler des Festivals au moment de mon passage, ça va être rempli de monde, non à priori?
on va pouvoir visiter quand même? ça risque pas d'être insupportable?
par contre éviter un passage à Nagoya me va très bien!!!
J'ai été l'an passé à Aomori pour voir le festival, superbe!!!! mais il faut venir en avance ou réserver des places payantes!
J'avais aussi fait Hirosaki (1h de local train de Aomori), moins populaire car plus petit mais très bien quand même. J'avais logé là bas car bcp moins cher et 1h de transport le soir ça reste raisonnable pr rentrer.
Il y a aussi Akita pour le saké et son festival de lanterne, etc...
Et un endroit entre akita et matsushima que j'ai vraiment adoré visiter: TAZAWA KO. un petit lac avec plein d'activité. Je te propose de faire un tour sur le lac, faire le tour en vélo puis aller à un onsen dans la région! VRAIMENT SUPER! le tout en 1 journée (j'ai couru pour tout faire, mais l'une de mes plus bele journée)
Par contre, Niko-Aomori, même en shinkansen, tu vas prendre bcp de temps...
Je trouve que Beppu ne mérite pas du tout un trajet aussi long dans ton itinéraire. A dire vrai, je ne suis même pas convaincu que Beppu mérite de s'y arrêter (oui je sais, c'est un peu radical, comme opinion...).
Takayama mérite une journée entière sur place; ce n'est pas réaliste de le faire en excursion de la journée au départ de Takayama - regarde les horaires de train.
jour 15: Tokyo (nuit à Tokyo) échange de binôme!
jour 16: Kyoto (nuit à Kyoto)
jour 17: Kyoto (nuit à Kyoto)
jour 18: Kyoto (nuit à Takayama - départ à 16h56 de Kyoto. Arriver à 20h18)
jour 19: Takayama (nuit à Takayama)
jour 20: Shirakawago (nuit à Takayama)
jour 21: Nagoya (nuit à Tokyo)
jour 22: TOKYO (nuit à Tokyo) jusqu'au retour! 7 jours à Tokyo
Matsue et Beppu étant trop excentré pour la deuxième partie de ton voyage, tu passe trop de temps dans le transport pour le peu de temps sur place. Une journée de plus à Kyoto ne fait pas de mal. Ton binome et toi pourraient ainsi mieux profit de cette ville vu que tu y reste que 2 jours durant la 1er partie de ton voyage.
La journée du 21 étant une journée un peu perdu à cause des transport autant profiter du changement de train à Nagoya pour visiter un peu la ville avant de prendre le train pour Tokyo en fin de journée.
"Un bivouac c'est un peu comme le dépucelage et la première cuite, une espèce de rite qui fais de toi un homme" (MonsieurHenri du site randonner-léger.org).
Merci Andre1980!
Voici l'itinéraire après quelques modifications avec les trajets en train...
Pour certains trajets, est-il possible de prendre un train de nuit avec couchettes?
est-ce compris dans le JRPass?
Je ne trouve pas d'infos claires sur ce sujet!
La journée 18 me pose souci, est-il plus judicieux de faire directement Kyoto-Kinosaki?:
Merci d'avance de votre aide précieuse!
jour 1: Tokyo (+ nuit bookée à Tokyo)
NUIT à Tokyo bookée!
jour 2: Kamakura (+ nuit bookée à Tokyo)
Tokyo- Kamakura: 1h00
TRAIN aller matin: 8:00 Tokyo arrivée 9:00 Kamakura => JR Yokosuka Line
ou 9:01 Tokyo arrivée 9:57 Kamakura => JR Yokosuka Line ...
TRAIN retour soirée: 18:13 Kamakura arrivée 19:08 Tokyo => JR Rapid Airport Narita ...
NUIT à Tokyo bookée!
jour 3: Tokyo (+ nuit bookée à Kyoto)
Tokyo- Kyoto: 2h20
TRAIN soirée: 18:03 Tokyo arrivée 20:58 Kyoto => Shinkansen HIKARI
NUIT à Kyoto bookée!
jour 4: Kyoto (+ nuit bookée à Kyoto)
NUIT à Kyoto bookée!
jour 5: Kyoto (+ nuit bookée à Kyoto)
NUIT à Kyoto bookée!
jour 6: Nara (+ nuit bookée à Kyoto)
Kyoto- Nara: 0h50
TRAIN Aller matin: 8:08 Kyoto arrivée 9:09 Nara => JR Nara Line
ou 8:13 Kyoto arrivée 9:22 Nara => JR Nara Line
ou 8:36 Kyoto arrivée 9:34 Nara => JR Nara Line ...
TRAIN Retour soirée: 18:13 Nara arrivée 19:08 Kyoto => JR Rapid Airport Narita
ou 18:40 Nara arrivée 19:31 Kyoto => JR Rapid Airport Narita ...
NUIT à Kyoto bookée!
jour 7: Osaka (+ nuit bookée à Kyoto)
Kyoto- Osaka: 0h30
TRAIN Aller matin: 8:05 Kyoto arrivée 8:35 Osaka => JR Special Rapid Service
ou 9:00 Kyoto arrivée 9:28 Osaka => JR Special Rapid Service
ou 9:12 Kyoto arrivée 9:39 Osaka => JR Special Rapid Service ...
TRAIN Retour soirée: 21:00 Osaka arrivée 21:29 Kyoto => JR Special Rapid Service
ou 21:15 Osaka arrivée 21:44 Kyoto => JR Special Rapid Service
ou 22:00 Osaka arrivée 22:29 Kyoto => JR Special Rapid Service
NUIT à Kyoto bookée!
jour 8: Hiroshima / Miyajima (+ nuit bookée à Miyajima)
Kyoto- Hiroshima: 1h45
TRAIN: 8:02 Kyoto arrivée 10:01 Hiroshima => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 493
ou 8:20Kyoto arrivée 10:15 Hiroshima => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 495
+ Hiroshima- Itsukushima/ Miyajima: 0h30
TRAIN: FERRY??? 19:00 Hiroshima arrivée Miyajimaguchi 19:25 => JR SANYO LINE
ou 19:13 Hiroshima arrivée Miyajimaguchi 19:40 => JR SANYO LINE
ou 19:20 Hiroshima arrivée Miyajimaguchi 19:47 => JR SANYO LINE
ou 20:01 Hiroshima arrivée Miyajimaguchi 20:25 => JR SANYO LINE
+FERRY???
NUIT à MIYAJIMA bookée!
jour 9: Miyajima / Hiroshima (nuit à Hiroshima? ET direct Okayama?)
Itsukushima- Hiroshima: 0h30
TRAIN: FERRY??? 18:14 Miyajimaguchi arrivée Hiroshima 18:46 => JR SANYO LINE
ou 18:34 Miyajimaguchi arrivée Hiroshima 19:04 => JR SANYO LINE
ou 18:44 Miyajimaguchi arrivée Hiroshima 19:13 => JR SANYO LINE
[+TRAIN: 19:15 Hiroshima arrivée Okayama 19:57 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI RailStar 578
ou 19:51 Hiroshima arrivée Okayama 20:37 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 490 ??? ]
NUIT à OKAYAMA??? ou HIROSHIMA??? pas bookée!
jour 10: Okayama
Hiroshima- Okayama: 0h40 (si pas arrivée la veille)
TRAIN: 8:15 Hiroshima arrivée Okayama 8:57 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI RailStar 544
9:15 Hiroshima arrivée Okayama 9:57 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI RailStar 546
10:15 Hiroshima arrivée Okayama 10:57 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI RailStar 550
NUIT à OKAYAMA pas bookée!
ou nuit dans train couchette direction Sendai?
jour 11: Sendai
Okayama- Sendai 5h30
TRAIN: 7:02 Okayama arrivée Tokyo 11:10 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 462
11:40 Tokyo arrivée 13:33 Sendai => SHINKANSEN YAMABIKO 51
ou
7:27 Okayama arrivée Tokyo 11:40 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 462
11:56 Tokyo arrivée 13:37 Sendai => SHINKANSEN HAYATE 17
ou
8:26 Okayama arrivée Tokyo 12:40 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 466
12:56 Tokyo arrivée 14:37 Sendai => SHINKANSEN HAYATE 19
ou
9:26 Okayama arrivée Tokyo 13:40 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 468
13:56 Tokyo arrivée 15:37 Sendai => SHINKANSEN HAYATE 21
NUIT à SENDAI pas bookée!
jour 12: Sendai/Matsushima
TRAIN aller: 8:21 Sendai arrivée Matushimakaigan 09:01 => JR Senseki Line
8:59 Sendai arrivée Matushimakaigan 09:35 => JR Senseki Line
9:24 Sendai arrivée Matushimakaigan 10:03 => JR Senseki Line
TRAIN retour: 18:02 Matushimakaigan arrivée Sendai 18:42 => JR Senseki Line
18:34 Matushimakaigan arrivée Sendai 18:58 => JR Senseki Line
19:04 Matushimakaigan arrivée Sendai 19:41 => JR Senseki Line
(TRAIN pour Nikko: 19:19 Sendai arrivée Utsunomiya 20:39 => SHINKANSEN YAMABIKO 222
21:00 Utsunomiya arrivée Nikko 21:41 => JR Nikko Line
NUIT à NIKKO? SENDAI? pas bookée!
jour 13: Nikko (+ nuit bookée à Tokyo)
Sendai- Nikko: 2h30 (si pas arrivée la veille)
TRAIN aller Nikko: 07:25 Sendai arrivée Utsunomiya 8:36 => SHINKANSEN YAMABIKO 42
9:12 Utsunomiya arrivée Nikko 9h54 => JR Nikko Line
ou
8:21 Sendai arrivée Utsunomiya 9:36 => SHINKANSEN MaxYAMABIKO 210
9:57 Utsunomiya arrivée Nikko 10:42 => JR Nikko Line
TRAIN retour Tokyo: 18:21 Nikko arrivée Utsunomiya 19:02 => JR Nikko Line
19:21 Utsunomiya arrivéeTokyo 20:16 => SHINKANSEN NASUNO 280
ou
19:03 Nikko arrivée Utsunomiya 19:48 => JR Nikko Line
20:06 Utsunomiya arrivéeTokyo 20:56 => SHINKANSEN TSUBASA 128
ou
19:35 Nikko arrivée Utsunomiya 20:19 => JR Nikko Line
20:40 Utsunomiya arrivéeTokyo 21:36 => SHINKANSEN YAMABIKO 222
NUIT à TOKYO- bookée!
jour 14: Tokyo ou Hakone (nuit bookée à Tokyo)
TRAIN aller: 08:26 Tokyo arrivée Odawara 09:01 => SHINKANSEN KODAMA 639
09:16 Odawara arrivée Hakoneyumoto 09:31 => Hakonetozan Railroad (JR?)!
ou09:26 Tokyo arrivée Odawara 10:01 => SHINKANSEN KODAMA 643
10:15 Odawara arrivée Hakoneyumoto 10:30 => Hakonetozan Railroad (JR?)
TRAIN retour: 17:09 Hakoneyumoto arrivée Odawara 17:24 => Hakonetozan Railroad (JR?)
17:41 Odawara arrivée Tokyo 18:17 => SHINKANSEN KODAMA 664
ou
18:11 Hakoneyumoto arrivée Odawara 18:25 => Hakonetozan Railroad (JR?)
18:35 Odawara arrivée Tokyo 19:11 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 524 ...
ou rien! DODOooooo!
NUIT à TOKYO- bookée!
jour 15: Tokyo (échange de binôme) (nuit bookée à Tokyo)
NUIT à TOKYO- bookée!
jour 16: Kyoto
Tokyo- Kyoto: 2h20
TRAIN aller matin: 08:03 Tokyo arrivée Kyoto 10:48 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 463
08:33 Tokyo arrivée Kyoto 11:15 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 505
09:03 Tokyo arrivée Kyoto 11:48 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 465ou 09:33 Tokyo arrivée Kyoto 12:15 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 507NUIT à Kyoto (chez Yokko?)
ou Manga Kissa ou Hotel Capsule
jour 17: Kyoto
NUIT à Kyoto (chez Yokko?)
ou Manga Kissa ou Hotel Capsule
-
( jour 18 : Matsue? rester à Kyoto 1 jour de +? ou visiter Osaka, Kobe ou aller direct à Kinosaki depuis Kyoto)Kyoto- + Matsue: 3h45
TRAIN aller matin: 07:20 Kyoto arrivée Okayama 08:24 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 49109:05 Okayama arrivée Matsue: 11:37 => LTD.EXP YAKUMO 5(JR?)
ou
08:20 Kyoto arrivée Okayama 09:38 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 49510:05 Okayama arrivée Matsue: 12:35 => LTD.EXP YAKUMO 7(JR?)
OU jour 18 :
Matsue- Kinosaki:
TRAIN aller matin depuis KYOTO:
07:39 Kyoto arrivée Shinosaka 07:53 => SHINKANSEN KODAMA 69108:07 Shinosakaarrivée KinosakiOnsen 10:55 => LTD.EXP KITAKINKI 1 (JR?)
ou
08:38 Kyoto arrivée Shinosaka 09:01 => LTD.EXP THUNDERBIRD 4 (JR?)
09:04 Shinosakaarrivée KinosakiOnsen 11:51 => LTD.EXP KITAKINKI 3 (JR?)
TRAIN aller matin depuis MATSUE:
08:00 Matsue arrivée Tottori 09:27 => LTD.EXP SUPER MATSUKAZE 4 (JR?)
09:30 Tottori arrivée Hamasaka 10:13 => JR San-in Line
10:17 Hamasaka arrivée KinosakiOnsen 11:22 => JR San-in Line
TRAIN aller matin depuis KOBE(HYOGO):
07:50 Kobe(HYOGO) arrivée Amagasaki 8:16 => JR Kobe Line
08:20 Amasaki arrivée KinosakiOnsen 10:55 => LTD.EXP KITAKINKI 1 (JR?)
ou
08:47 Kobe(HYOGO) arrivée Amagasaki 9:08 => JR Special Rapid Service
09:16 Amasaki arrivée KinosakiOnsen 11:51 => LTD.EXP KITAKINKI 3 (JR?)
ou
10:01 Kobe(HYOGO) arrivée KinosakiOnsen 12:28 => LTD.EXP HAMAKAZE 1 (JR?)
NUIT à Matsue ou Okayama ou Kyoto, Kobe? Osaka? Kinosaki?
Kinosaki départ 17:02 arrivée Takayama 00:25!!!!
- ou journée à Kinosaki + nuit en train couchette vers Takayama? -
où trouver les infos et prix inclus dans JR?
(NUIT à Takayama- bookée, à annuler si besoin!)
- --
jour 19: Kinosaki? ou Takayama (nuit bookée à Takayama)
(si pas arrivée la veille)
TRAIN: 7:18 KinosakiOnsen arrivée Himeji 09:10 => LTD.EXP HAMAKAZE 2 (JR?)
09:59 Himeji arrivée Nagoya 11:32 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 468 (JR?)
11:43 Nagoya arrivée Takayama 14:08 => LTD.EXP (WIDEVIEW)HIDA 9 (JR?)
NUIT à Takayama- bookée!
jour 20: Takayama + Shirakawa-go(nuit bookée à Takayama)
Takayama- Shirakawago: 0h45
NUIT à Takayama- bookée!
jour 21: Takayama/ (Kanazawa?)
si Kanazawa? TRAIN pour Kanazawa: 08:00 Takayama arrivée Gifu 10:10 => LTD.EXP (WIDEVIEW)HIDA 4
10:14 Gifu arrivée Kanazawa 12:51 => LTD.EXP SHIRASAGI 5
TRAIN pour Tokyo: 16:44 Takayama arrivée Nagoya 19:02 => LTD.EXP (WIDEVIEW)HIDA 18 (JR?)
19:23 Nagoya arrivée Tokyo 21:10 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 528
ou
18:45 Takayama arrivée Nagoya 21:00 => LTD.EXP (WIDEVIEW)HIDA 20 (JR?)
21:23 Nagoya arrivée Tokyo 23:10 => SHINKANSEN HIKARI 532
NUIT à Tokyo pas bookée!
ou nuit dans train couchette direction Tokyo?
jour 22: Tokyo (fin du JRPASS!) = 7 jours à Tokyo (nuits bookées à Tokyo)
(si pas arrivée la veille) + transport vers TOKYO? hors JRPASS à partir de quand?
Merci Marathon!
J'ai échangé Beppu contre Kinosaki!
moins loin!!! merci!
pour Takayama, tu parles de Kanazawa à éviter pour un aller/retour dans la journée?
Merci ehlstudent!
Je préfère éviter la foule présente pendant les gros festivals,
je pense que j'en trouverais un peu partout même dans des petits villages, alors, pas d'Aomori pour moi!!!
Si j'avais encore plus de temps disponible, je me serai bien laissée tenter par TAZAWA KO, ça a l'air très beau!!!
merci encore!
Parce qu'il faut bien faire des choix!
Voici mon itinéraire, enfin!!!
Merci à tous pour votre aide!
jour 1: Tokyo (+ nuit bookée à Tokyo)
jour 2: Kamakura (+ nuit bookée à Tokyo)
jour 3: Tokyo (+ nuit bookée à Kyoto)
jour 4: Kyoto (+ nuit bookée à Kyoto)
jour 5: Kyoto (+ nuit bookée à Kyoto)
jour 6: Nara (+ nuit bookée à Kyoto)
jour 7: Osaka ou Kobe (+ nuit bookée à Kyoto)
jour 8: Hiroshima / Miyajima (+ nuit bookée à Miyajima)
jour 9: Miyajima / Hiroshima (nuit à Hiroshima)
jour 10: Okayama (nuit à Okayama)
jour 11: Sendai (nuit à Sendai)
jour 12: Sendai/Matsushima (nuit à Sendai)
jour 13: Nikko (+ nuit bookée à Tokyo)
jour 14: Tokyo ou Hakone (nuit bookée à Tokyo)
jour 15: Tokyo (échange de binôme) (nuit bookée à Tokyo)
jour 16: Kyoto
jour 17: Kyoto
jour 18: Osaka
jour 19: Takayama (nuit bookée à Takayama)
jour 20: Takayama + Shirakawa-go (nuit bookée à Takayama)
jour 21: Takayama (nuit à Tokyo)
jour 22: Tokyo (fin du JRPASS!) = 7 jours à Tokyo (nuits bookées à Tokyo)
Merci Marathon!
J'ai échangé Beppu contre Kinosaki!
moins loin!!! merci!
pour Takayama, tu parles de Kanazawa à éviter pour un aller/retour dans la journée?
Oui, désolé😕, mais tu as rectifié de toi-même🙂.
Compte tenu de tes contraintes assez inhabituelles, ton itinéraire définitif est très bien.🙂
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Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport)
Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights
Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara)
Osaka: 2 nights
Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night
Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me
Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay
Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima
Hiroshima: 2 nights
Miyajima: 1 night
Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo)
Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights
Kawaguchiko: 1 night
Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara)
Osaka: 2 nights
Koya-san: 1 night
Kumano Kodo: 3 nights
Takayama: 3 nights
Kanazawa: 3 nights
Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points:
I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets.
I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted.
I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing
Day 2 to 4: Beijing
Day 5: Datong
Day 6 & 7: Pingyao
Day 8 to 10: Xi'an
Day 11: Luoyang
Day 12: Dengfeng
flight
Day 13 & 14: Chongqing
flight
Day 15 & 16: Lijiang
Day 17: Dali
Day 18: Kunming
Day 19: Jianshui
Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang
Day 22: Travel via Guilin
Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo
Day 25: Guilin
Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie
flight
Day 28 & 29: Shanghai
Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently:
1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think?
2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority?
Thanks so much in advance for your help.
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026:
Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris).
This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome.
Thanks so much!
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns.
A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old).
Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there.
We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!!
Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights
Forbidden City
Great Wall of China
Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights
Terracotta Army
Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights
Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding
Wenshu Yuan Temple
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27)
Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet).
Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba.
Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals.
Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen.
Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28)
Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities:
Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms)
Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum.
Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
Activities:
Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go.
Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house).
Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts.
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Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3)
Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto:
Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara:
Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine.
Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4)
Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle.
Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle.
Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6)
Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps?
Maybe Kyushu is less crowded?
Thanks for your thoughts!
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it.
2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them.
3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days
Gyeongju: 2 days
Busan: 3 days
Jeju: 4 days
Seoul: 2 days
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi.
From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies,
Catherine
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
hi everyone, and first of all, I wish you all a happy new year and good health!
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto
Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines
temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji
visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto
Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park)
visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple
Shōseien garden
participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto
Kiyomizu-dera temple
stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple
visit Kennin-ji temple
Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon
return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto
visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle
visit the Imperial Palace gardens
end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto
Arashiyama area
Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest
explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto
hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto
day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8:
stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka
Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail
end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka
Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka
Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed?
I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback!
stephane
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Japan in April/May.
I’ll start my journey in Tokyo for 3 to 4 days.
I’d love your advice on accommodation, transportation, an itinerary, and whether a guide would be useful.
I’m traveling solo and could use a little reassurance.
Before I forget... how do payments work?
Hi there,
I’m looking for someone who could help me organize a trip to Japan for my niece and her son. I’ve seen that French-speaking guides are expensive, and the same goes for going through a tour operator.
Airline, local transportation, hotels, etc.
Thanks for your replies!
Betsyl
