Bonjour à tous et merci à toutes les personnes qui alimentent les forums qui sont des mines d’informations.
Après avoir mené une 1ère réflexion sur la Namibie (avec un itinéraire assez avancé déjà) je réfléchis également au Rwanda car entre les 2, notre cœur balance 😛.
En effet, nous projetons un voyage en Afrique Australe en juin/juillet l'année prochaine sur environ 14 ou 15 nuits sur place avec nos deux filles (13 et 15 ans), avec location d'une voiture.
Après avoir parcouru le forum, j'ai dressé un 1er itinéraire, et je souhaitais avoir votre avis sur le timing et le trajet entre les différentes étapes. Le but est aussi de prendre notre temps et de ne pas faire un marathon, essayer de s'imprégner du pays, de donner une dimension humaine à ce voyage.
Voilà ma 1ère ébauche :
Kigali - 1 nuit
Butare - 1 nuit
Nyungwe - 2 nuits
Kibuye 1 ou 2 nuits ?
Gisenyi 1 nuit
Musanze ou Kinigi 1 nuit (nous ne nous offrirons pas le permis gorille 😉)
Pour aller à l'Akagera ensuite, faut-il refaire une nuit à Kigali où existe-t-il une étape sympa à faire pour 1 nuit ?
Akagera 2 nuits
Kigali 2 nuits pour visites et repos avant de repartir
Merci à l'avance pour vos 1ers conseils afin que je ne fasse pas fausse route !
Janie
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Rejoindre l'Akagera en venant de l'ouest peut se faire sans repasser par Kigali surtout que vous avez votre propre véhicule.
Les distances ne sont pas dantesques car le pays est compact.
Au cas où, vous pourriez employer le Bradt pour décider des arbitrages.
Il n'y a aucun challenge à voyager là-bas.
Les étapes sont une question de choix.
Je suppose que les nuits à Kigali sont celles du jour de votre arrivée, celle du retour de l'Akagera et la dernière est celle de votre visite de la ville ? Difficile de faire moins si c'est bien cela.
Bonsoir
14/15 nuits pour le Rwanda c est parfait. Pour les étapes, vous avez indiqué a peu pres tous les sites étapes majeurs et il n'y a pas grand chose à dire si ce n est le nb de jours ici ou là et qui dépend de vos centres d interet : tourisme culturel, historique, animaux, paysages, repos...
Ainsi par exemple l etape a Butare ne nécessite pas forcément une nuit, dépendant vraiment de ce que vous souhaitez y faire (si seulement le musée, possible de continuer jusque Nyungwe sans souci). 2 nuits a Nyungwe peuvent etre 1 de trop selon ce que vous envisagez comme ballade sur place.
A Musanze/Kinigi, vous envisagez une rando dans le parc ? Si non, il y a le tour des lacs qui peut etre une belle alternative et permet de dormir au foyer Remera a 12 kms de la en pleine campagne avec une magnifique vue. De la, on peut rejoindre l Est du pays par des routes/pistes secondaires mais le plus simple et rapide reste de passer par Kigali mais sans y dormir.
Enfin si la situation sécu et politique le permet, il peut etre intéressant d aller pour 2 nuits vers Bujumbura. Tres beau site et le lac Tanganyika. Le Burundi est assez différent du Rwanda et cela peut aussi etre intéressant de voir cela.
Bonsoir Michel et Rotsaka pour vos réponses rapides.
Je n'ai pas encore reçu ma carte routière du Rwanda et je dois dire que j'ai un peu de mal avec les distances pour le moment.
Est-ce que vous connaissez à peu près le temps de route entre les différentes étapes (de roulage, c'est-dire sans compter les arrêts pause / photos ...) ?
Kigali - Butare
Butare - Nyungwe
Nyungwe - Kibuye
Kibuye - Gisenyi
Gisenyi - Musanze
Musanze - Akagera
ou Musanze - Akagera via Kigali
je suppose que c'est le choix entre ces 2 trajets qui détermine si on commence par le Nord ou le Sud du Parc ?
Cette information sur le temps de roulage serait précieuse pour affiner avec les activités et les découvertes que j'aimerais mettre au programme.
Pour le foyer Remera, je l'avais vu dans de nombreux postes et cela m'intéresse. En effet, au niveau des hébergements, je ne souhaite pas m'orienter vers des hôtels ou lodges trop luxueux, pour le budget mais également car nous avons envie d'authenticité et de rencontres.
Je me demandais s'il était possible d'aller à la rencontre d’enfants dans des écoles par exemple via des associations ou des fondations.
Merci à vous !
Janie
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L'entrée de l'Akagera se fait par le sud.
Hormis pour l'Akagera, j'y ai circulé avec les transports collectifs donc compliqué pour les durées mais vos étapes sont jouables.
Avec un véhicule, vous pouvez facilement loger en dehors des "centres".
Les cartes du Bradt suffisent amplement, achetez-le.
Chacun ses choix et son itinéraire mais à titre personnel je reste exclusivement au Rwanda car il y a de quoi s'occuper pour deux semaines sans soucis.
Bonjour,
Kigali Butare 2h30
Butare Nyungwe 1h30
Nyungwe Kibuye 2h30
Kibuye Gisenyi 2h
Gisenyi Musanze 1h30
Musanze Akagera via Kigali 3h30
Globalement je vous mets des temps moyen. Routes en bon état mais sinueuse et si camions, dépassement difficile. La police a pas mal de radars et vérifie aussi les dépassements de lignes blanches a des endroits stratégiques. L amende est a peu près pour tt à 25 euros. Entre 40 et 50 kmh en village et 80kmh en dehors.
Aucun très long trajet et très longs temps de route comme dans certains pays voisins. Ça permet de se déplacer assez facilement et rapidement.
On ne peut entrer qu au sud a Akagera. Mais sortir Nord ou Sud. De la sortie nord jusque Kigali, il faut compter assez de temps, a peu près le double que de Kigali a l entrée/sortie Sud.
Il y a des étapes entre Kigali et Butare ou des visites à faire à Butare hors musée ou depuis Butare.
Essayez de ne pas faire que de la route.
Michel
Bonjour Michel
Pour Butare, j'avais noté pour le moment le musée ethnographique, le King Palace Muséum ou visite d'une plantation de café.
Avez-vous des suggestions de choses à voir entre KIgali et Butare ?
Merci !
Janie
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La poterie de Gatagara qui réalise de magnifiques pièces y compris sur commande, le palais de Rukari à Nyanza avec le vieux palais Mwami ainsi que l'étainerie de Huye situé à 5km de Butare.
D'autres idées dans le Bradt.
La poterie de Gatagara qui réalise de magnifiques pièces y compris sur commande, le palais de Rukari à Nyanza avec le vieux palais Mwami ainsi que l'étainerie de Huye situé à 5km de Butare.
D'autres idées dans le Bradt.
Michel
Merci Michel
Le Bradt n'est qu'en anglais je crois et ce dernier est assez loin 😏
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Bonjour,
Kigali Butare 2h30
Butare Nyungwe 1h30
Nyungwe Kibuye 2h30
Kibuye Gisenyi 2h
Gisenyi Musanze 1h30
Musanze Akagera via Kigali 3h30
Globalement je vous mets des temps moyen. Routes en bon état mais sinueuse et si camions, dépassement difficile. La police a pas mal de radars et vérifie aussi les dépassements de lignes blanches a des endroits stratégiques. L amende est a peu près pour tt à 25 euros. Entre 40 et 50 kmh en village et 80kmh en dehors.
Aucun très long trajet et très longs temps de route comme dans certains pays voisins. Ça permet de se déplacer assez facilement et rapidement.
On ne peut entrer qu au sud a Akagera. Mais sortir Nord ou Sud. De la sortie nord jusque Kigali, il faut compter assez de temps, a peu près le double que de Kigali a l entrée/sortie Sud.
Merci Rotsaka
Eventuellement entre la sortie Nord d'Akagera et KIgali, y aurait-il une étape sympa à faire, un peu hors des sentiers battus ? J'ai tracé un 1er itinéraire après tous vos conseils et j'ai la marge pour une nuit en plus je pense.
Très bonne soirée
Janie
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Le Bradt n'est qu'en anglais mais est de loin le plus complet avec un auteur qui a parcouru le pays en long, en large et en travers. Nous sommes le 1er juin 2020 et votre projet est pour 2021, vous avez le temps pour utiliser un dico et annoter le guide. Il ne faut pas une traduction mot à mot mais juste le sens général.
Si vous comptez employer le guide qui se fait appelé "Petit Fûté", autant acheter un roman...
Je n'ai jamais employé une app pour traduire un guide en anglais mais je vais le faire pour un guide en allemand consacré à la Moldavie. Mon allemand n'est pas loin, il est inexistant. Je suis confiant vis à vis de Google traduction sur mon smartphone, je ne vois pas en quoi le Bradt va poser problème si vous faites de même.
Bonjour
Quand vous parlez du King Palace, je pense que vous parlez de celui de Nyanza dont il est fait mention par mvbergen. Autour de Butare, il est aussi possible de visiter le site de pèlerinage de Kibeho ou la Vierge serait apparue et qui est devenu un site important pour les catholiques au Rwanda entre autres.
Bien entendu, un site de lavage et traitement café est intéressant a visiter, il y en a un pas loin de Butare. Et effectivement aussi l etainerie comme aussi il a été noté par mvbergen.
Si vous voulez dormir sur un site différent et un peu en brousse dans une vieille maison type colonial mais bien en brousse, vous pouvez envisager le Jangwe Lodge. Il y a une piscine pour les enfants. On traverse des coins de campagne et il est facile de se ballader autour. Vous serez aussi tuyauté par les proprios qui sont tres sympa. Pour une nuit éventuellement. Ce n est pas bon marché mais c est différent et en immersion campagne.
A 50 kms de Kigali sur la route qui va vers Butare juste a la sortie de Muhanga. Apres qq kms de piste sur la gauche.
Entre Nyanza et Nyamagabe il y a de tres beaux paysages de campagne et c est possible de faire en diagonale par piste plutot que par route. Mais globalement si vous avez votre location, il est facile de prendre les pistes des que vous le sentez pour aller voir a quoi cela ressemble et si vous avez les infos pour aller par exemple sur un marché hebdomadaire campagnard. Tres animé.
Entre la sortie Nord et Kigali, il est possible de dormir dans un des sites au bord du lac Muhazi ("Moisi" quand on le prononce), endroits jolis ou pas mal de Kigaliens passent leur WE. Sinon il y a Rwamagana ou Kayonza mais dans les 2 cas, bof. En ts cas pour ma part.
Bonjour
J'avance sur notre projet. J'ai réservé quelques hébergements.
Je me pose pas mal de questions pour l'Akagera.
L'idée est de partir de Musanze pour arriver à l'entrée Sud du Parc et de passer la nuit au Ihema campsite et de rentrer dans le parc de bonne heure le lendemain matin pour y passer 2 jours et 1 nuit.
J'ai noté le Akagera Game Lodge pour la nuit mais cela voudrait dire qu'après notre 1ère journée dans le Parc on doit revenir sur nos pas pour dormir.... donc pas forcément une bonne idée ?
Pas trop envie de mettre une somme folle pour la nuit dans le parc non plus. Auriez-vous un conseil à me donner ? Est il judicieux d'entrer et de sortir par le Sud tout en voulant parcourir le Nord ?
Metci pour votre aide
Janie
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Bonjour
Honnêtement a chaque fois je dors au camping et c est ce que je prefere de loin. Pour etre dehors, pour faire un feu avec les enfants etc.
Sur le camping Sud, il est possible de louer une tente et c est autour de 25 USD et elle peut largement contenir 4 à 5 personnes. La nuitée par personne est ensuite autour de 20 USD (mais a verifier le prix).
Sur le camping Nord, il faut avoir sa tente me semble t il. Mais c est la meilleure place pour etre au petit matin et au petit soir sur les sites ou il y a le plus de chances de voir les lions et les hyènes (petite et grande plaine).
Il est possible de faire Musanze jusqu a l entrée Sud puis s installer au camping Sud dans l apres midi. Puis ensuite de faire 2 nuits au parc. Premiere apres midi, faire les boucles bord de lac, campement de peche et coté ouest ou il y a souvent les giraffes, chacal, herbivores...
Pour cette nuit la, faites vous installer la tente des que vous arrivez au ranger camp. Et ensuite c est parti avant de rentrer dormir au petit soir.
Le lendemain vous pouvez partir tranquillement vers le Nord et faire les boucles "du milieu", celles avant Hippo Beach. Car c est sur ces boucles qu'on peut voir certaines antilopes plus rares mais aussi les rhinos (hyper mega rare de les voir). Et ensuite aller au Campsite du Sud ou vous installez votre tente avant d aller sur petite plaine et grande plaine au petit soir. Et rebelote le lendemain tres tot.
ca fait 2 nuits sur le parc donc un budget supérieur. C est en immersion plus importante que l Akagera Game Lodge. Et cela n oblige pas a revenir au Sud. Ca permet aussi de bien voir tt le parc.
Maintenant il est aussi possible, sans pb, de revenir au Sud et de repartir au Sud. Ou de revenir dormir au Sud puis sortir ensuite au Nord.
Bonsoir Rotsaka et merci pour toutes ces infos.
Effectivement deux campings au sud si j'ai bien lu Muyumbu et Shakani qui louent des tentes mais il faut amener son équipement camping.
Pas de location de tente au nord.
Je ne trouve pas de carte du parc sur internet, pas très lisible en tout cas quand on zoome. Savez vous où je pourrais m'en procurer une. J'ai regardé sur le site African Parks mais rien vu.
Je ne me rends pas bien compte de ce que ça représente en temps de revenir vers le sud quand on a visité le nord.
Très bonne soirée
Janie
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Bonjour
La carte étant vendue a l entrée du parc, peut etre pour cela qu African Parks ne la met pas sur internet.
Je crois que la carte est sur le Bradt ou le Lonely, je ne sais plus.
Oui Shakani est le camp de peche et Muyumbu est situé sur la ligne de crete avec une tres belle vue. Pour le matériel nécessaire, c est assez limité : un tapis de sol et une couverture et ca va. Pour le reste, il faut avoir ses pique nique et savoir faire du feu. Il y a de l eau dispo et des toilettes assez rudimentaires. Un bungalow sous lequel on peut manger et du bois en abondance pour faire du feu. Des places a barbecue aussi donc pas besoin d amener de grille.
Du Nord au Sud, il faut compter 2 bonnes grosses heures selon l etat de la piste. En fonction d ou on est au Nord. Cela ne permet donc pas d etre aux meilleurs endroits tres tot ou au petit soir.
Je reprends le fil de mon voyage après plusieurs semaines de pause.
J'attendais les billets d'avion et c'est bon c'est pris. Arrivée le 23 juin midi et départ le 8 juillet donc c'est parfait !
J'ai reçu ma carte et le Bradt qui est effectivement très bien.
J'ai réservé les hébergements (sauf 2 pas encore ouverts à la réservation) tous annulables pour affiner au fur et à mesure mais j'ai au moins des points de chute même si je vais continuer à regarder en fonction de nos envies. Avec les enfants je préfère.
Voilà ce que ça donne pour le moment :
23/6 nuit à Kigali au Puma Garden
24/6 nuit à Butare à la Résidence Astrida
25/6 nuit pour Nyungwe au Kitabi Eco Center
26/6 nuit à Kibuye à Home St Jean ou Macheoeco lodge
27/6 idem
28/6 nuit à Gisenyi au Inzu Lodge
29/6 idem
30/6 nuit à Musanze au Red Rocks
01/07 idem
02/07 nuit à l'Akagera Rhino Lodge
03/07 nuit à l'Akagera Game Lodge
04/07 nuit au Dereva Hôtel pour la piscine :)
05/07 Nuit Kigali au Peponi Living Space toujours pour la piscine
06/07 idem
07/07 idem
Départ 8 juillet après-midi
Si vous avez des commentaires je suis preneuse. Tout cela est modifiable et adaptable.
Pour la voiture de location je suis en contact avec Kigali car rentals qui me propose un RAV 4 pour 600 euros en kilométrage illimité pour 16 jours. Je n'ai pas trop d'idée sur les tarifs pratiqués au Rwanda. Cela vous semble t-il correct ?
Très bonne soirée
Janie
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J'y étais sans véhicule de location donc je ne suis d'aucune aide sur cet aspect.
Le Home Saint-Jean, j'aime bien. Agréable, calme et bonne table.
Réserver à l'avance ? Chacun ses choix. Le vrai risque est de voir le logement que vous visiez complet mais il n'y a pas qu'un seul hôtel et vous avez une voiture donc mobile.
Autre option, réserver la nouvelle place quand vous quittez la précédente.
Le Rwanda, c'est un voyage zéro tracas. Vous allez apprécier. No stress.
Michel
Merci Michel
J'ai pris du annulable effectivement pour pouvoir adapter au fil des semaines ou même là-bas si l'envie nous prend de bifurquer.
Ça me rassure quand même avec les enfants d'être sûre d'avoir un toit sur la tête tous les soirs 😁
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J'y étais seul en mai-juin pour trois semaines. Sans réservation mais je ne suis plus un enfant. J'ignore quelle est la situation en été mais même avec des gosses, je ne suis pas persuadé du bien fondé de tout réserver à l'avance.
Ceci est un avis et n'est que mon avis, rien de plus.
Bonjour
Comme le dit mvbergen, meme avec des enfants, pas indispensable de réserver si longtemps a l avance mais si annulable, peut probablement pas faire de mal (meme si je ne suis pas sur que possible de revoir votre argent si entretemps une des adresses fait faillite, covid oblige).
Sur le véhicule, c est un prix tres tres correct. Vous avez avec ou sans chauffeur ? Il faut juste voir l etat du véhicule et des pneus. Si sans chauffeur, demandez aussi quelle assurance vous avez car souvent les véhicules proposés sont tres vieux et donc pas ouverts à la garantie 100% par les assureurs, en ce cas bien clarifier avec le loueur ce qu'il se passe en cas de gros crash. Le kmtrage illimité est un vrai faux geste commercial car les distances étant ce qu elles sont au Rwanda mais aussi les habitudes, je n ai jamais vu quelqu'un louer en kilométrage limité. Pour l Akagera, si pluie, le RAV4 pourra etre problématique sur certaines zones, en particulier les zones glissantes, caillouteuses et accidentées des collines car, sauf rare exception, le RAV4 est un SUV non 4x4 et est donc tres limité en conduite off road.
Pour les 3 dernieres nuits a Kigali, je suis comme mvbergen, un peu circonspect. Se bloquer 3 jours la me semble vraiment bcp. Juste pour une piscine (il faudra aussi voir si y rester est aussi engageant que les photos ne le laissent penser, on a souvent des déceptions une fois face à la réalité). Des amis qui bossent dans le tourisme sont en train d explorer de fonds en comble le Rwanda et ils sont en train de nous montrer plusieurs endroits et adresses peu connues qui sont bien tentants vers Musanze, Kibuye et Gisenyi. Je pourrai vous transmettre si vous voulez. Ils sont encore en pleine vadrouille.
Pour le reste, je ne connais pas plusieurs des adresses dont je ne saurai dire. Inzu Lodge et Home St Jean c est bon, valeurs sures. Sinon je prefere pour ma part les campings a l Akagera plutot que le Game Lodge, mais c est chacun son gout.
Pour les réservations je n'ai rien avancé . C'est réservé sans paiement donc pas de risques.
Pour Kigali le but est de prendre le temps de visiter la ville et les environs. En fait ça fait deux jours sur place car on repart en début d'après-midi le ème jour.
Pour la location je vais me renseigner. C'est sans chauffeur. Ce qui me surprend un peu c'est le paiement cash. Je me demande comment ils font s'il y a des dommages.
Pour les endroits peu connus je suis preneuse quand vous aurez des infos !
Très bonne soirée
Janie
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Rebonjour
Si réservé sans paiement alors pas de souci.
Concernant le véhicule, sauf si on loue avec les loueurs internationaux, on est dans un systeme qui est formel mais ressemblant fort a un certain informel si on était en Europe par exemple. C est assez basique, on ne parle pas d options, de caution, de kmtrage et meme d assurance. Il peut donc etre nécessaire d en savoir un peu plus.
Si en chauffage par vous meme, alors soyez prudents. Les routes sont bonnes, les véhicules normalement pas trop pourris mais les routes sont pleine de lacets, il y a pas mal de monde qui marche, fait du vélo ou de la moto... Alors mollo sur l accélérateur. D autant qu il y a énormément de controles radar dont qq radars automatiques désormais.
Sur Kigali, il me semble que sur un séjour somme toute assez court, une pleine journée avec la soirée d avant et la matinée du dernier jour, ce me semble suffisant. Vous pouvez consacrer l autre par exemple au lac Muhazi, par exemple en allant manger du capitaine ou du tilapia au Fish Pub, au bord de l eau dans un bel endroit tres animé.
Pour les autres endroits, je vous dis des que j ai des précisions.
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
En nov./ déc. 2022, j’avais fait un safari dans la région et nous avions souffert des températures extrêmes engendrées par le phénomène “El Nino” sur l’océan Indien à cette époque . En plus des T. extrêmes, il peut y avoir des pluies diluviennes , avec crues etc ... qui ont engendré des catastrophes avec victimes .
Nous revenons de dix jours en Tanzanie. Nous avons eu la chance d’être guidés par Gishaman. Toujours de bonne humeur, bon conducteur et très bon guide. Grâce à lui nous avons eu la chance de voir non seulement les big5 en une journée mais aussi plein d’autres animaux. Il travaille pour l’agence locale Blit Safaris qui a assuré un très bon suivi de notre voyage. À conseiller !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.