Bonjour à tous !
C'est mon 1er vrai voyage (pas de sous pas de temps avant !) et je le paufine en rêvant d'y être déjà ... Je pars pour 15 jours début juin avec mon mari dans le sud maroc et tous les avis sont les bienvenus !
Nous arrivons dans la soirée à Marrakech, hébergement Hôtel Ali, Central Palace ou Hôtel Afriquia ? Nous comptons louer une voiture pour 1 semaine : Medloc, Magdaz car ou Concorde Car ? 2ème jour étape à Ait Benhaddou(visite de la kasbah et ce celle de Tamdaght), hébergement Defat Kasbah ou Auberge de l'Etoile Filante ? 3ème jour Ouarzazate et vallée du Drâa, est-ce-que ça vaut le coup d'aller voir les studios atlas ? Visite de la kasbah de Taourirt, dîner et nuit à Agdz, est-ce-que quelqu'un connait le Kissane Hôtel ? 4ème jour Merzouga, auberge "L'Oasis" ou auberge "Les Dunes d'or" ? Bivouac de 2 nuits dans l'erg chebbi. 7ème jour Gorges du Todra, dîner et nuit à Boumalne Dadès : Hôtel Chems, Auberge le Soleil Bleu ou Hôtel La Vallée des Oiseaux ? 8ème jour Gorges et vallée du Dadès et arrivée le soir à Marrakech. Nous comptons rester 4 jours sur Marrakech dans un petit riad : Riad Carina, Dar Cristof, Dar Badra ou Riad Eden ??? Voilà pour notre "circuit", est-ce-que c'est faisable ? Si vous avez des témoignages sur les hébergements (bons et mauvais) et des suggestions de visites, de détours, d'étapes supplémentaires ou d'étapes superflues je serai ravie de vous lire. Merci à tous et bon week-end !🙂
En voila un circuit bien préparé, sur lequel je n'ai que peu de commentaires à faire.
Marrakech, Ok petits hotels sympa.
Les loueurs : medloc et concorde, bonne notoriété, bon parc, medloc meilleur sur les tarifs.
Ait benhaddou, les 2 adresses sont bonnes, mais si vous n'etes qu'en couple, vous pouvez vous faire plaisir à Dar Aicha, à 100 m de defat kasbah. petite maison d'hotes à accueil intime et excellente cuisine.
On peut se passer sans regret de la visite des studios, et en plus ce n'est pas donné.
Agdz, je ne connais pas Kissane, par contre à qques km, il y a la palmeraie de Tamnougalt, ou des kasbahs ont été restaurées en chambres d'hotes, je n'arrive pas à remettre la main sur les coordonnées, mais il suffit de demander sur place, c'est pas énorme.
mais si vous considerez Agdz que comme un étape entre Ozz et Merzouga, elle peut etre remplacée par N'kob, où, légèrement à l'écart de la route, il éxiste une super kasbah restaurée, avec aussi des chambres d'hotes (Baha baha) ou un peu plus loin vers Tazzarine à l'oasis de mezgarne (www.oasisdemezgarne.com)
Merzouga, dunes d'or, bon choix, et en plus leurs bivouacs sont intimes par rapport aux grosses cavaleries des gros hotels.
Boulmane, rester dormir en ville a peu d'intéret par rapport aux nombreuses auberges des gorges, un coup de coeur, auberge "Berbere de la montagne" km 37.
Marrakech riad : mon coup de coeur récemment retesté et à prix doux Dar Badra (réservation impérative).
pour les autre hébergements hors Marrakech, inutile de passer du temps et de consommer du téléphone, les réservations trop tot sont toujours folkloriques, et en cas de pépin, il y a toujours des adressses de secours proche, pour se rassurer appeler le matin ou la veille, ils pourront dire s'ils sont complets, sans plus.
nous rentrons du Maroc où nous avons passé une semaine à marrakech dans une famille :c'était genial (je peux donner l'adresse en message privé) .
Nous avons adoré ce circuit
Pour les studios :cela a amusé les enfants mais ce n'est quand méme pas exceptionnel.
pour ait ben haddou :la kasbah est magnifique comme beaucoup d'autre d'ailleurs mais j'ai quand méme trouvé que c'était là que le harcelementétait le plus penible.Pour l'étoile filante et bien je ne dirai qu'une chose( et je pense ne pas me faire que des amis :l'accueil était sympa mais au moment de regler :on a voulu nous embrouiller :le service n'était plsu compris....je n'ai pas trouve cela trés honnete ;ce n'est pas du tout comme cela partout ailleurs ; et pour couronner le tout et bien nous rentrons avec un enfant qui a une salmonellose contractée dans cette auberge; à bon entendeur!
Pour merzouga, nous etions au ksar sania, chez françoise trés bon accueil !
Dans les gorges du todra, nous avons couché à l'hotel Amazir :egalement trés bon accueil, bon repas.
Nous avons adoré notre voyage et l'accueil des marocains!
j'oubliais: à 7 km de zagora ne pas manquer un tout nouveau musée :vallée du Draa au coeur d'une kasbah :présentation par un berbere adorable de la vie dans les oasis et kasbah sur tous les plans :la vie agricole, les costumes, la religion, les bijoux.....une vraie page d'histoire.(ebtrés 20dh)
Avoir eu un différent avec un hotelier peut se concevoir, mais accuser cet hotelier de transmettre des salmonelles est beaucoup plus grave, comment peut on être sur qu'un gamin n'a pas touché quoique ce soit dans les 3 à 4 jours précédant les symptomes.
il n'aurait pas été aux toilettes ailleurs,
il se lave, naturellement comme tous les enfants, systématiquement les mains !!
Effectivement, c'est chez des marocains, c'est pas comme à ksar ksania !! l'ambiance bien franchouillarde est beaucoup plus rassurante.
je ne m'attendais pas moins qu'une reponse aussi virulente de ta part car sur le maroc il n'y a toujours a que toi qui est à méme de repondre aux questions!je n'entrerai pas dans une polemique mais je pensais que ce forum servait à donner son opinion positive ou negative!!!!!!!!!
L'ambiance franchouillarde n'est pas particulierement ce que nous recherchons mais si nous avons étè bien reçu pourquoi ne pas le dire.De plus, ce nest pas ce que nous recherchions car je te rapelle que notre sejour à Marrakech nous l'avons passé dans une famille et non un riad ! nous partagions leur vie, leur repas... au coeur de la medina .
Quand à ta reaction sur la capacité à m'occuper de mes enfants et de leur hygiene je laisse les autres lecteurs mediter.Etant dans le milieu medical et connaissant parfaitement les temps d'incubation et surtout par regroupement sur ce que nous avons mangé, où...(mon mari fut aussi touché en méme temps et ils sont les seuls à avoir consommer le méme aliment au méme endroit) cela ne nous laissé pas beaucoup de marge d'erreur .
Maintenant je te laisse l'exclusivité des reponses sur le Maroc et dorenavant je ferai part de mes commentaires en privé!
je suis entièrement d'accord avec toi, je rentre du Maroc, heureusement qu'il y a des hotels tenus par des européens, ca repose des marocains qui ne cherchent qu'à nous arnaquer. et si en plus ils vous empoisonnent.
on a fait des excursions avec un francais qui connait bien le maroc et qui nous a tout expliqué et on a jamais été malade.
Merci de comprendre qu'on puise ne pas étre satisfaits à 100% .
Nous n'avons pas étè deçus par le comportement des marocains qui sont extremment gentils et serviables, ni trouvé malentretenus les hotels marocains, nous n'avons pas étè arnaqués outre mesure mais je voulais quand méme signaler le comportement malhonnete de cet hotelier et ce probleme sanitaire car je pensais que le forum était fait pour cela.
baaah faut pas s'énnerver par rapport a notre raoulette si tu parcours ce forum il a toujours raison de toute facon alors que l'on sais trés bien que sur cernaines choses voila quoi, bien que je ne doute pas qu'il connaisse bien le maroc mon copain est marocain de las bas alors voila quoi...
moi je dis ya des marocain cool et pas cool donc faut pas s'énnerver contre ça...
et si t'es énerver contre les hotels et leurs service fais comme moi lour ton propre appart, c'est mieux pour les enfants d'ailleurs et c'est moins chers!
On demande juste un peu de tolerance sur le forum😉
Sinon nous ne nous sommes pas enervés contre LES marocains(ils sont charmants!) mais contre UN hotelier marocain!!!!!!!
bien sur je te comprends et jai compris ton histoire et je suis tout a fait ok et daccord avec toi!!
maintenant si yen a un qui s'amuse a remballer tout le monde sur le forum et se prendre pour le roi du maroc c'est pas ma faute...
Salut Nac, juste une ou deux propositions, on y est allé en octobre dernier, pour les locations voitures on avait pris Chez Regina, l'hôtel Ali bien sympa, ambiance routarde, à Ouarzazate l'hôtel Draa, grand mais très bien et super petit déj. aussi en ville tjours à Ouarzazate, restaurant la Kasbah juste en face de la Kasbah près des escaliers, super resto où l'on mange bien et la déco est super. Voilà bon voyage à toi.😊
bjr nac
j'ai pour vous une proposition, j'espere qu'elle vous plaira, , , , , ,
concernat hotel ali, location de voiture pas mal choisi....a ait benhaddo je vous propose l'oasis d'or chez kasem, , , hotel propre et service sympa et des prix raisonables ....ça vaut pas la peine de passer la nuit a agdz ou sea envirents ...le trajet ouarzazt__ merzouga est faisable en une journée en plus pas grand chose a voir sur le chemin
a merzouga les dune d'or est une belle kasbah mais reste loin de a route goudronnée je vous prose auberge hohayout ou l'oasis pas loin de la route goudronnée....campement bien equipé services de bonne qualité srtout pr la 1er cité
a dades, chez hmo et son frere moha a hotel la vallée, reste le plusbeau endroit de la region vue le service la propreté le paysage ......ne le regrettez pas
pour plus d'info n'hesitez pa s a le demander bon sejour au maroc
Hello, my husband and I will be in Egypt this coming November. Cairo seems more challenging to explore without a guide, and we’ll be there for 3 full days. Would anyone have the name of a guide?
Thanks!
Hi, we're looking for a guide to show us around Essaouira.
We're 11 adults and don't want to go through an agency. If you have a contact to help us discover this city, that would be great!
Thanks
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.