Nous préparons un voyage en Namibie du 15/08 au 15/09/2012. Le TO local nous propose l'itinéraire suivant, sur lequel j'aimerais avoir votre avis (étapes inutiles ou au contraire oublis d'endroits incontournables, durée sur chaque étape, e tc.)
Bonsoir,
C'est un circuit classique plutôt lâche. Plutôt vague aussi, il indique des régions parfois immenses plutôt que des hébergements dans des endroits précis (Naukluft ? Kaokoland ?…)
En 30 jours, je crois que j'essaierais de pousser un peu plus loin du côté du Caprivi avec un retour par le Botswana, quitte à enlever quelques nuits à droite à gauche avant. Kunene River Lodge dans le Nord a la cote aussi, après Epupa.
En relisant les guides, il semble manquer les points d'intérêt suivants :
- Waterberg
- Bushmanland
- Caprivi
- Chutes Victoria (mais peut être pas facile à caser dans notre itinéraire !)
J'ai cru comprendre que Caprivi valait vraiment la peine, mais les autres ? Si oui au détriment de quoi d'autre ? Aie, aie, difficile de faire des choix...
Un exemple avec la Bande Caprivi et les Vic Falls (il est évident que ça fait nettement plus de Km, mais je trouve votre 1er jet très très (trop!) cool)
16-août Windhoek (ou déjà Mariental si vs arrivez à 6h du mat' avec le vol AirNamibia)
17-août Mariental ???
18-août Keetmanshop
19-août Fish River Canyon
20-août Fish River Canyon
21-août Aus
22-août Naukluft
23-août Namib Rand
24-août Sesriem (après-midi jusqu'au sunset)
25-août Sesriem (du sunrise jusque 14h) puis trajet vers les environs de Solitaire (Camp Gecko)
26-août Swakopmund
27-août Swakopmund (excursion Mola-Mola)
28-août Spitzkoppe
29-août Brandberg - Twyfelfontein
30-août Palmwag
1-sept. Purros
2-sept. Purros - Sesfontein
3-sept. Epupa Falls
4-sept. Epupa Falls
5-sept. Kunene River Lodge
6-sept. Dolomite
7-sept. Okaukuejo
8-sept. Namutomi
9-sept. Namutoni au matin puis continuation sur Rundu
10-sept. Rundu – Mahango
11-sept. Mahango
12-sept. Kongola (Camp Kwando)
13-sept. Camp Kwando - Kasane
14-sept. visite de Chobe NP
15-sept. Kasane - Vic Falls
16-sept. Vic Falls le matin et vol retour ds l’après-midi
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Bonjour, moi je trouve ce programme plutôt bien. Pour une fois qu'il ne faut pas faire 500km par jour...
Pour Waterberg, le descriptif des animaux présents est très allèchant, mais on en voit très très peu, car brousse trop touffue et on n'a rien vu lors de mes 4 ou 5 dernières visites (sauf babouins et dik diks) Pour l'ornithologie par contre, çà peut être intéressant. Il n'est alors pas nécessaire de faire le "game-drive" en haut du plateau. La ballade à pied pour monter est très sympa. C'est un camp d'état où le service (et l'entretien des bungalows) est d'un niveau variable. Pour Tsintsabis, les dernières infos publiées font état d'un intêret moyen. Je n'en sais pas plus, mais vu la distance, il sera peut-être bon de vérifier. Il s'agit du "Tree top Camp"?
Si je comprends bien, le Waterberg ne vaut peut être pas la peine (pour les animaux, on a déjà Etosha...). Pour Victoria Falls, ça parait compliqué, car nous rendons la voiture à Windhoek (mai sje vais quand même poser la question au cas où...).
Et le Bushmanland ? Vous connaissez ? Ca vaut la peine ?
Même avis pour Waterberg. C'est une bonne étape si nécessaire entre Etosha et Windhoek, mais pas incontournable.
Le camp NWR est moyen avec des emplacements pas immenses, mais c'est de là que part la balade jusqu'en haut. Balade sympa. On y avait observé des damans de très très près et les babouins étaient plutôt amusants.
Le camp du Waterberg Wilderness, quelques kms à l'Est, est beaucoup mieux, mais pas d'accès au plateau. De jolies balades au pied, mais pas d'animaux. Le game drive est très cher et part dans le bush au pied du Waterberg, pas fait.
Si tu tiens à Victoria Falls, il est toujours possible d'y rendre la voiture (ou à Kasane) moyennant finances bien sûr.
Qu'appelles-tu Bushmanland ? La région de Tsumkwe ? Moi j'aime ce coin et les rencontres qu'on peut faire avec les Bushmen, mais c'est plutôt excentré…
FredXIII a eu une mauvaise expérience à Tsintsabis. Moi, je n'ai fait qu'y passer…
Merci pour le lien, c'est un très beau carnet de voyage.
Oui, j'appelle Bushman land la région de Tsumkwe (enfin, c'est pas moi qui le dit, c'est le petit Futé ;-))
Je vais voir pour Victoria Falls, je n'y pas tant que ça, on aura peut être l'occasion de le faire une prochaine fois (j'espère !), mais tout est question de compromis :)
Merci pour le lien, c'est un très beau carnet de voyage.
Tu m'étonnes 😉
A mon avis et bien que comme le dise Phalbert le voyage à une allure plus modérée est très bien, je pense que vous pouvez pousser vers la bande de Caprivi. Vous ne le regretterez pas.
2 jours à Swakopmund pour se ressourcer au milieu d'un voyage c'est très bien aussi. Lessive, nettoyage, époussiérage 😛.
C'est marrant que Tourmaline continue à envoyer les gens au Treesleeper camp car il n'y a rien à y faire alors que je leur avais indiqué qu'ils devaient retirer cette destination de leur catalogue. a croire que je suis le seul à avoir été déçu. 😕. La construction de la route qui mène en Angola a amélioré le trafic mais tué le village deTsintabis. Alcool, prostitution, violence. Un poste de police a même été créé à l'époque. Je ne sais pas ce qu'il en est aujourd'hui mais le treesleeper le long de l'autoroute... 🏴☠️.
On peut faire sans se presser Mariental- fish river dans la journée en visitant tranquillement giant play ground et quivertree forest.
A fish river- possible de dormir 2 soirs au même endroit (Hobas par ex)
Passer une nuit à luderitz (la journée gagnée à Keetmanshop)
Passer par la C13 en bordure de l'Orange river pour rejoindre Aus depuis Fish river.
La fin du circuit et la dépose du véhicule à Kasane et des vols europe Wdh et Vic falls Europe engendrent des surcoûts très importants (mais cela dépend des moyens....).
" La fin du circuit et la dépose du véhicule à Kasane et des vols europe Wdh et Vic falls Europe engendrent des surcoûts très importants (mais cela dépend des moyens....). "
Oui... évidemment (4500 N$ précisément), mais en 1 mois, c'est ça ou alors, il faut supprimer la partie sud de la Namibie et récupérer ces jours pour refermer la boucle et revenir sur Windhoek, via Maun et Ghanzi (tout en faisant des étapes pour profiter de Chobe et du Delta de l'Okavango)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Merci à tous pour vos réponses, je vais donc demander à remplacer Tsintabis par Tsumkwe.
Pour le Caprivi, c'est sûr que j'aimerais bien y aller, mais peut être pas au détriment de 2 ou 3 autres régions... Je vais voir ce qu'ils peuvent me proposer, et je vous tiens au courant :)
L'aller/retour vers Tsumkwe, ça fait une tirée…
Tu as le temps de goupiller quelque chose comme ce qu'on avait fait en 2008 avec un aperçu du Caprivi. Avec 1 ou 2 nuits de plus que nous, c'est une boucle sympa, et d'autres aspects abordés (Okavango, Kalahari…). Tu peux jeter un œil à mon carnet de voyage pour te donner une idée du coin (à partir du 2 août).
Comme plusieurs loueurs ne demandent "que" 4500 N$ (ce qui déjà cher!) , tes paroles signifient que, pour faire une moyenne, les frais de dropp off entre Kasane et Windhoek (1150 Km) se monteraient à 7000-7500 N$ chez certains loueurs (soit plus de 700 € 😮)... Je suis dubitative, même si je sais que la location d'une voiture en Namibie est onéreuse!
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Bonjour Pierre, q uel magnifique carnet de voyage !!! C'est vrai que Caprivi a l'air très sympa, mais ce serait au détriment du sud de la Namibie. J'ai cru comprendre que la région de Luderitz n'était pas incontournable, mais la question se pose davantage pour le Fish River Canyon (et puis, j'aime bien les sources d'eau chaude...)
Merci. 😄
Je ne pourrai te donner un avis sur le Sud que début mai. Le Fish River Canyon aura du attendre notre 3ème voyage dans le coin, en avril. Et pas sûr encore qu'on ira jusqu'à Lüderitz…
Tu aimes les sources chaudes ? Connais-tu l'Islande ? J'ai peur que celles d'Ai Ais ne soient plus très naturelles…
Tu aimes les sources chaudes ? Connais-tu l'Islande ? J'ai peur que celles d'Ai Ais ne soient plus très naturelles…
Non, je ne connais pas l'Islande. J'ai plutôt fréquenté les sources chaudes en Asie, pas toujours très naturelles non plus, mais tellement sympa :)
Sinon, nous avons déjà réservé nos billets d'avion, et GO Voyages veut bien les modifier, avec une retenue de ... 100% du prix du billet ! Autant dire que nous allons boucler la boucle à Windhoek. On so'riente du coup vers une visite un peu plus rapide du sud, tout en maintenant le Fish River Canyon et Lüderitz, remplacement de Tsintsabis par Tsumkwe, et éventuellement un pteit détour par le début de la Caprivi...
Pas grave, la boucle Windhoek/Windhoek c'est bien.
Vous allez déjà faire un tour plutôt complet de la Namibie ! Et en 30 jours, c'est tout-à-fait jouable.
Et qui sait… Peut-être l'envie de revenir dans le coin pour un voyage plus centré sur le Caprivi et le Botswana…
Voici la dernière version de notre itinéraire telle que proposée par le TO, avec à droite les ajustements que je pense demander. J'attends vos avis, notamment sur la dernière partie qui a complètement changée (abandon de certaines étapes ou allongement des journées afin de découvrir le nord-est du pays). Les étapes supprimées sont Keetmanshop (que je pense rajouter au détriment de Mariental), Aus, Namib rand (que je vais essayer de réinsérer), Gecko Camp et Spitzkoppe.
16-août WINDHOEK
17-août MARIENTAL -> plutôt Keetmanshop
18-août FISH RIVER CANYON NWR Hobas > plutôt Ais Ais, et une seule nuit à Fish River, à partir de là, on remonte les étapes d'un jour
19-août FISH RIVER CANYON NWR Ais Ais -> Luderitz
20-août LUDERITZ -> Naukaluft
21-août NAUKLUFT Namtib Guestfarm -> Namib Rand
22-août SESRIEM
23-août SESRIEM
24-août SWAKOPMUND -> plutôt Walvis Bay
25-août SWAKOPMUND -> plutôt Walvis Bay
26-août BRANDBERG
27-août TWYFELFONTEIN
28-août PALMWAG
29-août PURROS
30-août PURROS
31-août KAOKOLAND Khowareb Lodge
1-sept. EPUPA FALLS
2-sept. EPUPA FALLS
3-sept. ETOSHA NWR Dolomite Camp
4-sept. ETOSHA NWR Okaukuejo
5-sept. ETOSHA NWR Halali
6-sept. ETOSHA NWR Namutoni
7-sept. RUNDU N'kwazi Lodge
8-sept. SHAKAWE Drotsky's Cabins
9-sept. BAGANI Nunda Safaris Lodge
10-sept. GROOTFONTEIN Roy's Rest Camp
11-sept. TSUMKWE
12-sept. TSUMKWE
13-sept. OTJIWARANGO Okonjima Campsite
14-sept. WINDHOEK
Les étapes supprimées sont Keetmanshop ..., Aus, Namib rand (que je vais essayer de réinsérer), Gecko Camp et Spitzkoppe.
Vraiment dommage, ce sont des endroits superbes, envoûtants même ! 😕 😕
4 nuits à Etosha ? J'aime Etosha mais 3 nuits seraient TB aussi !
Le N'kwazi à Rundu; très bien situé et une ambiance charmante, tout particulièrement le soir: danses en début de soirée et repas simple mais agréable.
Tu vas te régaler en Namibie .😉
Je ne comprends pas du tout pourquoi tu reviens sur tes pas entre Shakawe et Tsumkwe ?
Tu te rallonges énormément et tu vas parcourir deux fois les mêmes routes.
Tu peux faire Tsodillo Hills, Nokaneng, Dobe Tsumkwe. Le cas échéant, Shakawe/Tsumkwe, ça peut se faire dans la journée par là !
Je ne comprends pas du tout pourquoi tu reviens sur tes pas entre Shakawe et Tsumkwe ?
Tu te rallonges énormément et tu vas parcourir deux fois les mêmes routes.
Tu peux faire Tsodillo Hills, Nokaneng, Dobe Tsumkwe. Le cas échéant, Shakawe/Tsumkwe, ça peut se faire dans la journée par là !
Apparemment, la piste est assez difficile (sable mou), pas balisée et il est donc assez facile de s'y perdre. Vous êtes passés par là sans problème ?
Un peu de sable mou, mais pourquoi louer un 4x4 si c'est pour ne pas aller là où il peut être utile ?
Aucune chance de se perdre.
Le seul endroit où plusieurs pistes se croisent, c'est à Dobe, quelques kms avant la frontière. Tous les villageaois te font des grands geste en indiquant "border", "border". Grosso modo, c'est la piste de droite, et voilà.
Ce que vous avez prévu avec cet aller retour pour Shakawe, puis celui pour Tsumkwe, je ne le ferais pas. Ce sont des heures et des heures perdues sur des routes loin d'être les plus intéressantes !
Une de ces haltes "RUNDU N'kwazi Lodge , SHAKAWE Drotsky's Cabins , BAGANI Nunda Safaris Lodge" afin de profiter des activités proposées (ballade sur le fleuve par ex.) (à toi de comparer les offres de chacun) afin de mieux profiter de cette région bien différente des autres.
Sinon comme je l'ai dit Aus, Namib Rand(que je vais essayer de réinsérer), Gecko Camp sont des endroits superbes et Spitzkoppe (ce dernier je ne le connais que de loin mais d'après les récits et photos de tous ceux qui y sont passés, ça semble bien tentant !). 😉
Ce que vous avez prévu avec cet aller retour pour Shakawe, puis celui pour Tsumkwe, je ne le ferais pas. Ce sont des heures et des heures perdues sur des routes loin d'être les plus intéressantes !
Je ne suis pas sûre de comprendre : tu n'irais pas à Shakawe et Tsumkwe, ou tu irais en l'intégrant dans un autre itinéraire qui éviterait les allers-retours ?
Pour la route et la durée regarde ici + des points GPS
La discussion suivante donne pas mal d'infos sur la route et sur différents camps de San: http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3002456#3002456
Pierre te conseille cette route car il la connait ! 😉
Michelle a répondu pour moi…
Effectivement, je referais la boucle que j'ai faite en 2008 mais sûrement pas les allers/retours que tu envisages.
De toute façon en aucun cas l'aller/retour vers Tsumkwe si tu ne veux pas rouler sur une piste sablonneuse !
Aller dans la région de Tsumkwe n'a d'intérêt que pour aller explorer un peu le Nyae Nyae Conservancy, avec un guide dans ta voiture ou pas, et pour ça il faut rouler dans le sable, du vrai sable où on roule en vitesses courtes.
Sinon, tu peux toujours aller visiter le village san de Grashoek à partir de Roy's Rest Camp, à 80 km sur la route de Tsumkwe. Mais il faudra quand même faire les derniers kilomètres dans le sable.
Ton TO te dissuade parce qu'il ne connaît pas je pense… Mais la piste Nokaneng / Dobe se fait en 2 heures et n'a rien de spécialement difficile. Une vraie piste africaine, contrairement aux boulevards des gravel roads namibiennes qui sont plutôt atypiques sur le continent africain et en fait bien plus dangereuses, à cause des vitesses atteintes et du fait qu'on s'y sent en sécurité alors que la moindre erreur de conduite peut se finir sur le toit.
Je rentre tout juste de 2 semaines au Mexique, voici la dernière proposition de l'agence, qui je l'espère sera la bonne :
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x 16-août
WINDHOEK
Terra Africa Guesthouse 17-août
MARIENTAL
Bagatelle Kalahari 18-août
FISH RIVER CANYON
NWR Hobas 19-août
FISH RIVER CANYON
NWR Ais Ais 20-août
NAUKLUFT
Namtib Guestfarm 21-août
NAMIB RAND
NamibRand Family Hideout 22-août
SESRIEM
NWR Sesriem 23-août
SESRIEM
NWR Sesriem 24-août
WALVIS BAY
Oyster Box Guesthouse 25-août
WALVIS BAY
Oyster Box Guesthouse 26-août
BRANDBERG
Brandberg White Lady Lodge 27-août
TWYFELFONTEIN
Aabadi Camp 28-août
PALMWAG
Palmwag Lodge 29-août
PURROS
Purros Community Camp* 30-août
PURROS
Purros Community Camp* 31-août
KAOKOLAND
Khowareb Lodge 1-sept.
EPUPA FALLS
Epupa Camp 2-sept.
EPUPA FALLS
Epupa Camp 3-sept.
ETOSHA
NWR Dolomite Camp 4-sept.
ETOSHA
NWR Okaukuejo 5-sept.
ETOSHA
NWR Halali 6-sept.
ETOSHA
NWR Namutoni 7-sept.
RUNDU
N'kwazi Lodge 8-sept.
BAGANI
Nunda Safaris Lodge 9-sept.
SHAKAWE
Drotsky's Cabins 10-sept.
Tsodilo Hills 11-sept.
TSUMKWE
Tsumkwe Country Lodge 12-sept.
TSUMKWE
Tsumkwe Country Lodge 13-sept.
OTJIWARANGO
Okonjima Campsite 14-sept.
WINDHOEK
Dusternbrook 15-sept.
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Est-ce que cela te parait mieux ?
Et quelques questions subsidiaires ;-)
- L'option rachat de franchise sur le véhicule est-elle utile ? Avez-vous eu des problèmes ?
- Le GPS est-il indispensable ?
bonjour Karine,
j'irai bien avec vous. le trajet me semble équilibrer et sur 31 j, il n'y a pas trop de km.J'ai quasiment fait le même trajet (sauf Purros en 19 et l'on n'est pas arrivé mort!).
si tu pars avec Tourmaline ou un autre TO namibien, ils te donnent des cartes suffisamment détaillées pour ne pas se perdre. Pour moi le GPS ne sert pas à rien. Il y a un croisement tous les 100km!!! Je pense que l'on peut se passer de la "blonde".
Le seul hébergement que je connaisse dans ton circuit:c'est Terra Africa à Wdh. tout à fait correct pas loin du centre afin d'aller y faire un tour. Avec Tourmaline, notre interlocuteur est venu nous chercher à l'aéroport où l'on a pris possession de la voiture et s'est mis devant nous avec la sienne jusqu'au guesthouse, histoire de se familiariser avec la conduite à gauche sans avoir à chercher notre route. c'était très bien. il a passé du temps ensuite à terra Africa pour nous briefer et nous expliquer la feuille de route.
Cela a permis que le trajet de 5700 km se passe sans encombre (hormis 2 crevaisons: vérifier l'état des roues). Faire un excellent état détaillé de la voiture car cela nous a permis de nous sortir d'un guêpier suite à la fissuration du pare-brise où j'ai pu prouver que c'était la suite d'un choc antérieur à ma prise du véhicule.
Faire un rachat de franchise pour les pneus et le pare-brise. En Namibie, tout pneu crevé doit être changé (dixit europcar à Wdh). Je n'ai jamais payé car les pneus rendus étaient bons. Ils m'ont même appelé d'Afrique du sud( oui!!!).
Donc être très prudent de ce côté-là.
Cela me semble effectivement tout à fait correct ... Personnellement, rien à redire, vous allez vous régaler !!!
Le GPS est-il indispensable ?
Tout à fait inutile pour l' itinéraire envisagé .
Perso, nous nous étions munis de cette carte (lien) ... C' est largement suffisant .
Concernant l' assurance, le sujet a été maintes fois débattu ... Il semble qu' il n' y ait pas de solution idéale, convenant à chacun d' entre nous ... tout est affaire d' état d' esprit !
Je ne suis pas intervenu plus tôt car ton circuit compte beaucoup d'étapes qui sont au delà de mon champ de connaissance, mais ce dernier parcours me rappelle pleins de bons souvenirs (Bagatelle, Dusternbrook ...) et je vois non sans contentement que tu passes deux nuits à Sessriem.
Comme dit précédemment, veinarde !
Pour la question du GPS, ce n'est effectivement pas indispensable sur ce circuit, deux ou trois cartes papier feront l'affaire. C'est du moins le cas si tu n'as pas encore de GPS. Par contre, pour la préparation du notre voyage en Namibie, j'avais acheté la carte GPS de T4A, et l'avais installé sur un ordi ultra-portable destiné au stockage des photos. A défaut de nous positionner, cela donnait un niveau de détail qu'aucune carte papier ne peut apporter. Mais ça fait un appareil de plus à porter et à recharger.
Pour le rachat de franchise, il y a en effet plein d'options possibles, et comme le dit Jean-Fi. C'est une choix très perso, qui tient aussi à votre façon de voyager ... et de rouler. Si tu fais appel à un assureur français qui a déjà été cité sur ce forum, je ne saurais que te recommander de bien clarifier l'étendue de leur couverture et surtout les conditions à remplir et les documents à fournir en cas sinistre, clarification si possible écrites, avant le départ.
Sur le GPS, certainement pas indispensable mais....
Une des fonctions les plus importantes d' un GPS (y compris un non carto à 100 balles) est le "back to track". Qui permet de revenir dans sa trace quand on se perd..
Vous allez (peut être) voyager dans des endroits avec des cartographies pas toujours très fiables, avoir éventuellement envie de faire un petit détour, etc...
Et il n' y a pas la couverture GSM d' ici.
C' est comme cela qu 'on se perd, ça m' est arrivé deux fois (en Australie dont une dans un coin pas très paumé , François Perron National Park), à l' époque je n' avais pas de GPS carto, je ne sais même pas (il y a dix ans) si cela existait, je devais avoir un genre d' ETREX, j' ai été ravi de suivre mes traces pour retrouver mon chemin (on tourne facilement en rond et on manque furieusement de points de référence dans des endroits à faibles infrastructures)..
Au cours des 3 ou 4 dernières années, une dizaine de personnes ont disparu de cette manière entre Namibie et Botswana (on en parle essentiellement sur les sites de 4x4eux sudaf, pas sur les sites de voyageurs francophones)..
Même si tout le monde y va, n' oubliez pas que l' Afrique Australe n' est pas un terrain de jeu pour jeunes (ou vieux) cadres sud africains, européens et américains.
J' ai dans ma Land Rover deux GPS cartographiques (un Garmin, un pour cartes scannées), un téléphone satellite et une balise de détresse..Mais je ne fais pas complètement les mêmes voyages..
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.