1. Arrivée à Los Angeles 2. Hollywood – Universal Studio 3. Magic Mountain 4. Vol pour Las Vegas 5. Las Vegas – Zion 260 km H. 2.42 6. Zion – Brice Canyon 176 km H 2.00 env 7. Bryce Canyon – Moab 449 km H 4.37 8. Moab – Monument Valley 250 km H 2.38 9. Monument Valley - Lake Powell km 193 H 4.25 10. Lake Powell – Grand Canyon tusayan Km 229 H 2.40 11. Grand Canyon – Las Vegas 450 k m H 4.50 12. Las Vegas – Vallée de la Mort 260 km H 3.00 13. Vallée de la Mort – Mammoth Lakes 334 km H 4.42 14. Mammoth Lakes – Bodie 89 km H 1.25 15. Bodie – Yosemite 164 km H 2.38 16. Yosemite – San Francisco 308 KM H 3.40 17. San Francisco 18. San Francisco 19. San Francisco 20. Jour à ajouter dans l’un des parcs 21. Vol retour Év. Faire Las Vegas – Mammoth Lakes en un jour ce qui nous permettrait de gagner un jour dans un parc 600 km env. 7.00. J'ai lu sur les forums que ça n'a pas d'intérêt de dormir à Death Valley et que de toute façon en juillet on ne pourra pas passer du temps dans le parc vu la chaleur Merci pour vos conseils
Itinéraire de vingt et un jours dans l'ouest des États-Unis
by Aliga
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Merci de me dire ce que vous pensez de mon programme. J'ai l'impression que je l'ai trop chargé sachant que nous n'avons pas envie de tout voir en vitesse et que nous aimons bien marcher. Mais je ne sais pas à quel endroit il faudrait passer plus de temps et ce qu'il me faudrait zapper.
1. Arrivée à Los Angeles 2. Hollywood – Universal Studio 3. Magic Mountain 4. Vol pour Las Vegas 5. Las Vegas – Zion 260 km H. 2.42 6. Zion – Brice Canyon 176 km H 2.00 env 7. Bryce Canyon – Moab 449 km H 4.37 8. Moab – Monument Valley 250 km H 2.38 9. Monument Valley - Lake Powell km 193 H 4.25 10. Lake Powell – Grand Canyon tusayan Km 229 H 2.40 11. Grand Canyon – Las Vegas 450 k m H 4.50 12. Las Vegas – Vallée de la Mort 260 km H 3.00 13. Vallée de la Mort – Mammoth Lakes 334 km H 4.42 14. Mammoth Lakes – Bodie 89 km H 1.25 15. Bodie – Yosemite 164 km H 2.38 16. Yosemite – San Francisco 308 KM H 3.40 17. San Francisco 18. San Francisco 19. San Francisco 20. Jour à ajouter dans l’un des parcs 21. Vol retour Év. Faire Las Vegas – Mammoth Lakes en un jour ce qui nous permettrait de gagner un jour dans un parc 600 km env. 7.00. J'ai lu sur les forums que ça n'a pas d'intérêt de dormir à Death Valley et que de toute façon en juillet on ne pourra pas passer du temps dans le parc vu la chaleur Merci pour vos conseils
1. Arrivée à Los Angeles 2. Hollywood – Universal Studio 3. Magic Mountain 4. Vol pour Las Vegas 5. Las Vegas – Zion 260 km H. 2.42 6. Zion – Brice Canyon 176 km H 2.00 env 7. Bryce Canyon – Moab 449 km H 4.37 8. Moab – Monument Valley 250 km H 2.38 9. Monument Valley - Lake Powell km 193 H 4.25 10. Lake Powell – Grand Canyon tusayan Km 229 H 2.40 11. Grand Canyon – Las Vegas 450 k m H 4.50 12. Las Vegas – Vallée de la Mort 260 km H 3.00 13. Vallée de la Mort – Mammoth Lakes 334 km H 4.42 14. Mammoth Lakes – Bodie 89 km H 1.25 15. Bodie – Yosemite 164 km H 2.38 16. Yosemite – San Francisco 308 KM H 3.40 17. San Francisco 18. San Francisco 19. San Francisco 20. Jour à ajouter dans l’un des parcs 21. Vol retour Év. Faire Las Vegas – Mammoth Lakes en un jour ce qui nous permettrait de gagner un jour dans un parc 600 km env. 7.00. J'ai lu sur les forums que ça n'a pas d'intérêt de dormir à Death Valley et que de toute façon en juillet on ne pourra pas passer du temps dans le parc vu la chaleur Merci pour vos conseils
Vous devez au moins rajouter un jour à Moab, car là, vous y arrivez... et vous en repartez... 😉
Sans compter que la route entre Bryce et Moab prend à elle seule plus que ne laissent augurer les "petits" 449 km...
Sinon... "Hooliwod", c'est original ! 😛
Sans compter que la route entre Bryce et Moab prend à elle seule plus que ne laissent augurer les "petits" 449 km...
Sinon... "Hooliwod", c'est original ! 😛
Circuit dans l'Ouest : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2744058
Floride-Louisiane : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3536861
Une semaine à New York : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4550454
New York, again http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5593646
Hi,
Croyez en un afficionado des lieux,
Si vous aimez marcher, il vous faut au minimum consacrer une journée, dans quelque parcs que ce soit. Vu votre planning, vous ne faites que survoler les parcs qui sont à une échelle hors mesure pour des français.
Vous faîtes là un trajet très sympa, mais il vous manque une semaine pour ne pas avoir l'impression de passer votre temps dans la voiture.
A Zion par exemple, vous ne pouvez pas y pénétrer avec votre vehicule perso sauf en cas d'hotel à l'intérieur du parc, de toute facon ensuite vous devez prendre les transports du parc, c'est très bien mais dévoreur de temps. Yosemite est immense, pour tout voir, il faut au minimum deux jours et sans la marche à pieds. A Moab, entre Arches et Canyonland c'est une journée par parc, et les arches, il faut les voir de près, donc marche à pied = du temps.
Et puis, les grands parcs c'est entre 10 & 25 $ d'entrée, tant qu'à faire take your time et profitez en.
Seul bon point, les trois jours sur Frisco, c'est un minimum.
Un conseil, faites le tri dans les parcs en fonction de vos affinités (montagne, verdure, désert etc...) et envisagez un second séjour pour vraiment en profiter
Là, vous roulez tous les jours, le temps de se poser à l'Hotel, après faut courrir.
Ce au détiment de ballade à pieds dont vous vous souviendriez toute votre vie.
Les loops de Bryce par exemple sont somptueux, sans parler de The Narrows sur Zion. Et que dire d'un coucher de soleil sur Delicat Arche à Moab mais il faut le mériter et aller le chercher. Et le Grand Canyon, il porte pas son nom pour rien celui là, c'est hors norme il faut se promener le long du "rim" pour en prendre un peu la mesure. Descendre est une véritable expédition pour marcheur initié.
Si je peux me permettre.
Après LA, concentrez vous sur le secteur Vegas et Parcs.
Revenez sur San Francisco et Yosémite plus tard, parceque autour de Frisco aussi y'a à faire et de quoi s'occuper bien trois semaines.
A vot' Service
Hee Haw
Hee Haw
Salut,
Ton parcours est à revoir... Inutile de prendre un vol LA > Las Vegas, tu ne gagneras pas de temps avec le trajet à l'aéroport, l'attente, le vol... Et en plus, il te faudrait une voiture à LA... J7, c'est n'importe quoi : faire la Scenic Drive 12 et Capitol Reef, plus aller jusqu'à Moab en un jour, c'est pas top... Tu ne reste qu'une nuit à Moab... Tu ne vistes donc pas Canyonlands ou Arches (puisque la veille, t'as fait 7 heures de route et qu'il te faut repartir pour Monument Valley...) 😕 Il faudrait passer 2 nuitsà Las Vegas. Oui, une nuit dans Death Valley, c'est intéressant. Même s'il fait chaud. Visite en soirée et tôt le matin. J14 est inutile, fait la visite de Bodie à J13 et passes une nuit de + dans Yosemite.
Chose importante : quand comptes-tu faire ce voyage ???
Ton parcours est à revoir... Inutile de prendre un vol LA > Las Vegas, tu ne gagneras pas de temps avec le trajet à l'aéroport, l'attente, le vol... Et en plus, il te faudrait une voiture à LA... J7, c'est n'importe quoi : faire la Scenic Drive 12 et Capitol Reef, plus aller jusqu'à Moab en un jour, c'est pas top... Tu ne reste qu'une nuit à Moab... Tu ne vistes donc pas Canyonlands ou Arches (puisque la veille, t'as fait 7 heures de route et qu'il te faut repartir pour Monument Valley...) 😕 Il faudrait passer 2 nuitsà Las Vegas. Oui, une nuit dans Death Valley, c'est intéressant. Même s'il fait chaud. Visite en soirée et tôt le matin. J14 est inutile, fait la visite de Bodie à J13 et passes une nuit de + dans Yosemite.
Chose importante : quand comptes-tu faire ce voyage ???
Merci pour ta réponse.
Nous partirons autour du 7 juillet mais je n'ai pas encore réservé le vol.
Effectivement je pense que tu as raison, nous ne gagnerons pas bcp de temps de prendre l'avion.
Concernant le J7 je n'avais pas calculé juste! Zut!
Je vais devoir enlever quelque chose mais je ne sais pas quoi! Peut-être Moab puisque ça nous fait faire un grand détour ou alors la fin du voyage.
Quels sont les parcs où tu me conseillerais de passer le plus de temps?
Merci pour votre réponse.
Oui, nous aimons bien marcher et n'avons pas envie d'avoir l'impression de courir tout le temps. Par contre je me pose une question. Mis à part dans la Death Valley, est-ce possible de marcher dans tous les parcs en juillet ou la chaleur est-elle vraiment insupportable?
Vous me conseillez plutôt de ne pas faire yosemite et san francisco ou alors de supprimer Moab?
Quels sont les endroits les plus intéressants et où il faudrait que nous fassions une nuit supplémentaire? Est-ce qu'il me faut compter une nuit supplémentaire à chaque endroit? Par exemple à Monument Valley est-il nécessaire de compter plus de temps?
Merci pour vos conseils
Supprimer San Francisco/ Yosemite ou Moab? Aucun des deux ne mérite d'être supprimé, donc personne ne pourra te conseiller là-dessus. C'est toi en fonction de tes envies qui pourra faire ce choix difficile.
Bravo! C'est bien dit et je suis entièrement d'accord avec tout ça! 😉
Hi,
Bien sur Death Valley est une gageure en été, sauf pour randonneurs de très haut niveau. Grand Canyon est également très physique avec la combinaison climat relief. Arches a un relief plus raisonnable mais il peut en effet y faire particulièrement chaud, donc bon physique et de l'eau de l'eau. Canyonland est physique mais la randonnée pas forcément incontournable, les points de vue sont déjà très spectaculaires. Zion est chaud mais raisonnable car plus ombragé et très riche en randonnée de tout niveau. Bryce est chaud mais faisable car bien aménagé et très spectaculaire.
Monument Valley se fait dans la demie journée, toutefois, le site est assez isolé et donc risque de s'inscrire dans un trajet assez long. Auquel cas vous devrez en faire le tour peut être plus rapidement. Sauf après grandes pluies, vous pouvez y aller en voiture, c'est même assez drole sur les pistes de sable.
Certes, faire un choix est difficile, mais à l'inverse de mes camarades de forum, je vous le conseille.
Pour vous y aider :
Yosémite est très vert avec un paysage de montagne très spectaculaire sur les point de vue et dans la vallée (El Capitan, Glacier Point) sur mariposa grove, ballade dans les séquoia très facile et sympa.
Moab vous proposera du minéral à perte de vue c'est extraordinaire et San francisco est une ville au charme majeur. Par ailleurs, la côte pacifique est superbe.
Que vous dire, essayez de voir ce qui vous charme le mieux via photos et documentaires.
Perso, j'ai d'abord fait frisco puis plus tard vegas et les parks, à chaque fois en 4 semaines. Pour mon prochain séjour je retourne sur frisco et l'orégon.
Mais c'est mon feeling perso, les parcs m'ont emerveillé, il faut les faire, mais ce n'est pas là que j'ai envi de retourner en priorité.
De toute facon, quelque soit votre choix, vous allez prendre un pied terrible et du coup y revenir.
Hee Haw
Bonjour
Il est clair que votre ambitieux projet est irréalisable en 21 jours; il va falloir faire des choix
il faudrait d'abord définir ce dont vous avez envie le plus: villes ou parcs? si vous préférez les villes, vous gardez LA, LV et SF et à contre coeur vous zappez Moab ou bien pour prenez un vol intérieur LV-SF et vous zappez Death Valley et Yosemite si ce sont les parcs qui vous attirent le plus: vous pourriez arriver directement sur Las Vegas et éliminer Los Angeles; votre parcours deviendrait réalisable
"lorsqu'au crépuscule de ma vie je me retournerai, je dirai: c'est moi qui ai vécu et non un ètre factice créé par mes ennuis et mes regrets"
J'ai modifié mon programme. Pouvez-vous me dire ce que vous en pensez. Je vais essayer du supprimer LA pour arriver directement à Las Vegas mais je ne sais pas si ça va être possible. Mes enfants 20 et 16 ont très envie de voir Universal Studios!
1. Arrivée à Los Angeles 2. Hollywood – Universal Studio 3. Los Angeles – Las Vegas 447 km H 4.15 à 5.30 selon la circulation 4. Las Vegas – Zion 260 km H. 2.42 5. Zion – Brice Canyon 176 km H 2.00 env 6. Bryce – UT 12 – Capitol Reef 204 km h 3.20 7. Capitol Reef – Moab km 234 h. 3.6 8. Arches National Park 9. Canyonlands National Park 10. Moab – Monument Valley 250 km H 2.38 11. Monument Valley – Lake Powell km 193 h 4.25 12. Lake Powell – Grand Canyon tusayan km 229 h. 2.40 13. Grand Canyon – Las Vegas 450 k m H 4.50 14. Las Vegas – Death V par Furnace Creek – Lone Pine 385 km 5.29 15. Lone Pine – Mammoth Lakes km 168 2.11 16. Mammoth Lakes – Bodie km 89.9 1.25 Après la visite Bodie – Lee Vining km 40.5 H 0.43 17. Lee Vining – Yosemite 55.5 km – h.0.54 18. Yosemite – San Francisco 308 KM H 3.40 19. San Francisco Golden Gate – la ville 20. San Francisco - Alcatraz 21. Vol retour Merci pour vos conseils
1. Arrivée à Los Angeles 2. Hollywood – Universal Studio 3. Los Angeles – Las Vegas 447 km H 4.15 à 5.30 selon la circulation 4. Las Vegas – Zion 260 km H. 2.42 5. Zion – Brice Canyon 176 km H 2.00 env 6. Bryce – UT 12 – Capitol Reef 204 km h 3.20 7. Capitol Reef – Moab km 234 h. 3.6 8. Arches National Park 9. Canyonlands National Park 10. Moab – Monument Valley 250 km H 2.38 11. Monument Valley – Lake Powell km 193 h 4.25 12. Lake Powell – Grand Canyon tusayan km 229 h. 2.40 13. Grand Canyon – Las Vegas 450 k m H 4.50 14. Las Vegas – Death V par Furnace Creek – Lone Pine 385 km 5.29 15. Lone Pine – Mammoth Lakes km 168 2.11 16. Mammoth Lakes – Bodie km 89.9 1.25 Après la visite Bodie – Lee Vining km 40.5 H 0.43 17. Lee Vining – Yosemite 55.5 km – h.0.54 18. Yosemite – San Francisco 308 KM H 3.40 19. San Francisco Golden Gate – la ville 20. San Francisco - Alcatraz 21. Vol retour Merci pour vos conseils
Bonjour,
Nous faisons un peu le même itinéraire mais à l'envers en juin/juillet
Je pense, sans prétention, que c'est assez équilibré même si on loupe quand même pas mal de choses, mais nous sommes conscient de ne peut pouvoir tout faire... Nous avons donc fait un choix, de plus nous avons un petit garçon qui aura 7 ans 1/2 lors de voyage donc étapes pas trop longues dans la mesure du possible.
Je ne remets pas notre itinéraire ici, tu peux aller voir sur le site ci dessous. C'est en construction mais les trajets y sont 😉
Bon choix et courage
Mag
Nous faisons un peu le même itinéraire mais à l'envers en juin/juillet
Je pense, sans prétention, que c'est assez équilibré même si on loupe quand même pas mal de choses, mais nous sommes conscient de ne peut pouvoir tout faire... Nous avons donc fait un choix, de plus nous avons un petit garçon qui aura 7 ans 1/2 lors de voyage donc étapes pas trop longues dans la mesure du possible.
Je ne remets pas notre itinéraire ici, tu peux aller voir sur le site ci dessous. C'est en construction mais les trajets y sont 😉
Bon choix et courage
Mag
Mag
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Hi,
Reprenons calmement
1. Arrivée à Los Angeles
2. Hollywood – Universal Studio - Je comprend vos enfants, d'autant que Las Vegas aurait pu faire office de parc d'attraction, mais vu leur age, beaucoup de choses vont leur être inacessibles (-21 ans). ceci étant c'est à voir même si il y fait horriblement chaud et encore plus de nuit avec la circulation sur le strip
3. Los Angeles – Las Vegas 447 km H 4.15 à 5.30 selon la circulation - profitez un peu de la nuit, le Strip est très spectaculaire
4. Las Vegas – Zion 260 km H. 2.42
Partez de bonne heure pour profiter de Zion
5. Zion – Brice Canyon 176 km H 2.00 env
6. Bryce – UT 12 – Capitol Reef 204 km h 3.20
A mon avis, Capitol reef ne nécessite pas une halte "nuit" au regard de votre programme, filez directement sur Moab et profitez de la journée bonus pour affiner Yosemite car vous n'êtes déjà pas très longtemps sur Zion sur un thème de paysage proche.
7. Capitol Reef – Moab km 234 h. 3.6
8. Arches National Park
9. Canyonlands National Park
10. Moab – Monument Valley 250 km H 2.38 -
Là aussi, en partant tôt, visite de monument valley puis filez sur Page
11. Monument Valley – Lake Powell km 193 h 4.25
12. Lake Powell – Grand Canyon tusayan km 229 h. 2.40
13. Grand Canyon – Las Vegas 450 k m H 4.50
14. Las Vegas – Death V par Furnace Creek – Lone Pine 385 km 5.29
15. Lone Pine – Mammoth Lakes km 168 2.11
16. Mammoth Lakes – Bodie km 89.9 1.25
Après la visite Bodie – Lee Vining km 40.5 H 0.43
17. Lee Vining – Yosemite 55.5 km – h.0.54
18. Yosemite – San Francisco 308 KM H 3.40
San francisco mérite une journée de plus, par ailleurs, attention, grosse cohue pour Alcatraz pensez à vous y prendre à l'avance,
19. San Francisco Golden Gate – la ville
20. San Francisco - Alcatraz
21. Vol retour
Questions pratiques, si vous ne réservez pas, penser à arriver sur site de bonne heure, les places peuvent être chaudes et les tarifs conséquents (à Tusayan notamment, le grd Canyon est loin de véritables urbanisations).
Pensez également au pass annuel pour les parks, 80$ de mémoire pour toute la voiture, vu le nombre que vous visitez (de 10 à 25 $ pour les plus célèbres) ca vaut le coup. Attention les parc "tribaux" type monument valley sont hors champs et on leur tarifs.
Merci pour votre réponse. J'ai remodifié mon parcours suite à vos commentaires.
J'ai un souci concernant le trajet Bryce - UT 12 - Moab. La UT 12 n'est pas le Burr Trail? Dans ce cas quelle route est-elle la plus jolie? La partie de la UT 12 que vous me conseillez va de où à où? Est-ce possible de faire ce trajet en un jour ou est-ce de la folie?
Hi,
De Bryce, UT 12 - Cannonville, Boulder, Torrey (portes de Capitol Reef), UT 20, Hanksville, retrouver la I70 un peu avant Green River puis la 191 direction Moab
Une route vraiment superbe de Bryce à Green River, ce n'est pas une grosse route mais elle est tout à fait correcte. Le trajet est jouable à la journée, l'année dernière j'avais même fait un arrêt pique nique sur Capitol Reef. A propos, sur Moab, un de vos compatriotes Suisse-Alémanique tient le Inca Motel en entrée de ville, très sympa, pour les trois nuits, ils nous avait même accordé une petite réduc.
Hee haw
De Bryce, UT 12 - Cannonville, Boulder, Torrey (portes de Capitol Reef), UT 20, Hanksville, retrouver la I70 un peu avant Green River puis la 191 direction Moab
Une route vraiment superbe de Bryce à Green River, ce n'est pas une grosse route mais elle est tout à fait correcte. Le trajet est jouable à la journée, l'année dernière j'avais même fait un arrêt pique nique sur Capitol Reef. A propos, sur Moab, un de vos compatriotes Suisse-Alémanique tient le Inca Motel en entrée de ville, très sympa, pour les trois nuits, ils nous avait même accordé une petite réduc.
Hee haw
J10 : Je mettrais quand même un bémol sur Moab - MV - Page dans la journée. Ca implique la visite de MV en fin de matinée et c'est pas top ... + les bornes accumulées sur cette journée 🤪
Le grand truc de MV c'est la fin de journée quand même.
Donc s'il faut vraiment gratter 1 jour, je partirais plutôt le J9 après Canyonlands qui est surtout sur la partie Island In the Sky une succession de points de vue plus que Arches qui propose plusieurs randos remplissant une journée.
Dans la balance : 1 matinée à Canyonlands pour un coucher de soleil à MV, ca se refuse pas 😎
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Hi,
Ca se tient, il est vrai que Monument Valley est superbe au lever ou coucher de soleil et que Cannyonland est tout à fait jouable en une demie journée.
La suggestion est bonne,
Ca se tient, il est vrai que Monument Valley est superbe au lever ou coucher de soleil et que Cannyonland est tout à fait jouable en une demie journée.
La suggestion est bonne,
Hi,
Ah mais Glenn Canyon, c'est très bien aussi, mais pour le coup, Bryce / Moab via la Burr Trail, c'est très gourmand. Qui dit Trail dit piste, donc...
Hee Haw
Ah mais Glenn Canyon, c'est très bien aussi, mais pour le coup, Bryce / Moab via la Burr Trail, c'est très gourmand. Qui dit Trail dit piste, donc...
Hee Haw
Pas de souci, j'ai changé mon programme
Nous ferons Moab - Needles Overlook - MV
Nous dormirons à MV et le lendemain nous irons à Page.
De cette façon nous profiterons du coucher et duver du soleil à MV
Connaissez-vous le camping Goulding's Monument Valley Campground? Et le Mitten View Campground?
Lequel des deux est-il le mieux situé au niveau de la vue?
Je crois qu'on ne peut malheureusement pas réserver le 2ème et j'ai peur que tout soit complet lorsqu'on arrivera!
hi,
Je ne connais pas la Burr Trail dans son intégralité loin de là. Mais il est évident que son environnement est plus sauvage et plus original, ce sera un souvenir peu commun.
Néanmoins, votre séjour est assez court, êtes vous prêt à sacrifier une bonne journée à ce périple très physique, sans compter que je ne sais pas trop où vous pourriez faire étape avant Moab, vers Blanding ? ou remonter vers Hanksville ?
Je ne peut vous conseiller sur ce point.
Hee Haw
Je ne connais pas la Burr Trail dans son intégralité loin de là. Mais il est évident que son environnement est plus sauvage et plus original, ce sera un souvenir peu commun.
Néanmoins, votre séjour est assez court, êtes vous prêt à sacrifier une bonne journée à ce périple très physique, sans compter que je ne sais pas trop où vous pourriez faire étape avant Moab, vers Blanding ? ou remonter vers Hanksville ?
Je ne peut vous conseiller sur ce point.
Hee Haw
Je pense que c'est une bonne idée 😊
Pas testé les campings mais le Mitten View est sur le site même ... maintenant lequel est le mieux ?
Celui du Goulding's est sans doute mieux équipé avec piscine, épicerie, douches ... et la vue est loin d'être minable 😎
Moi j'irais là pour les équipements et visiter le petit musée gratuit du western ... et pour un autre point de vue.
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Merci pour vos conseils.
On va laisser tomber le Burr Trail. Peut-être qu'on fera les premiers miles jusqu'à Long Canyon comme c'est conseillé dans un guide. Malheureusement je n'arrive pas à voir sur Google map ce que ça fait comme distance. On verra sur place si on fait le trajet Bryce Moab en un jour ou si on s'arrête en route. Je ne vais rien réserver pour cette nuit-là.
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Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
Best,
Best,
Hi there,
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hello everyone,
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan