We’ve already explored Bali, eastern Java, and its volcanoes back in 2013, and we’d love to return to Java to discover other spots that aren’t so "mainstream." There’ll be three of us—a couple and our 25-year-old son. We love nature, small towns, villages, beautiful landscapes, and a bit of beach time... We’re used to backpacking around Southeast Asia. Any tips for exploring some great spots in Java in a coherent way, with 3 or 4 bases for a 3-week trip from late June to mid-July? We don’t want to revisit Bromo or Ijen (they seem way too crowded compared to 2013), and we might swing by Djogja but won’t redo Borobudur or Prambanan (same issue...). Looking forward to your tips! Thanks 🙂
Arrival in Jakarta,
Cirebon, 3 nights
stopover in Jepara, 1 night
Karimunjawa, 4 nights
(Magelang) Nepal Van Java*, 2 nights
(Yogyakarta) overnight bus or train to Bandung, 1 night
Bandung and surroundings, 4 nights
Bogor, 2 nights
Access + Ujung Kulon National Park, 4 nights
Jakarta, 1 night if needed
Thanks so much for these ideas! I think we’ll land in Singapore and take domestic flights to get as close as possible to the places we’re interested in. I’m planning to arrive via Malang or Surabaya and head back to Singapore from Jakarta. Does that sound like a good plan?
From Singapore, you can easily reach Surabaya, Yogyakarta, Semarang, and of course Jakarta.
For an interesting route starting from Surabaya, I’d recommend heading down to Malang and exploring the area, without necessarily going all the way to Bromo if you want to avoid the crowds.
Next, continue to Blitar to discover the region’s temples, mountain landscapes, and surrounding plantations.
From there, take the train to Solo (Surakarta), a city often overlooked by travelers but definitely worth a visit. It’s also a great starting point for exploring some pretty mysterious temples like Candi Sewu and Candi Sukuh.
You can then head to Yogyakarta, which will serve as a stopover before exploring the Dieng Plateau.
To wrap up the trip, a beach stopover in the Karimunjawa Islands can be a beautiful conclusion. Just pass through Semarang, where you can optionally detour to the Gedong Songo temples, located at altitude.
Semarang can then serve as your exit point from Java to return to Singapore
Solo (Surakarta), a city often overlooked by travelers but definitely worth a visit. It’s also a great starting point for discovering some rather mysterious temples like Candi Sewu and Candi Sukuh.
You can then head to Yogyakarta, which serves as a stopover before exploring the Dieng Plateau.
To wrap up the trip, a beach getaway to the Karimunjawa Islands can be a wonderful conclusion. Just pass through Semarang.
Following up on our previous exchange above, to avoid placing Karimunjawa at the end of the trip, you could take a train from Solo to Semarang after Solo, then head to Karimunjawa before returning to Semarang to continue west (via Yogya or not).
Since the Dieng Plateau isn’t any farther from Semarang than from Yogya, it might be possible to visit it from Semarang, but I’m not sure how feasible that is.
Or even do a multi-day route: Semarang-Dieng Plateau-(Wonosobo and Magelang)-Nepal Van Java-Yogya.
Totally doable. It’s all about choosing between pragmatism and what you’re in the mood for!
There’s a direct train between Solo and Semarang, and if there’s no train after that, you can book a Gojek/Grab and pick your preferred direction at a very reasonable cost—especially if there are three of you sharing a car!
Yeah, yeah, I know Singapore isn’t in Indonesia 😉
It’s just to have a start and end point that makes it pretty easy to fly to different Indonesian islands.
Singapore is becoming increasingly popular for international flight costs from Europe... with alternatives to airlines that make a stop in the Arabian Gulf.
The Dieng Plateau, Malang, and Karimunjawa are on our list :-)
What about Bandung and its surroundings? Worth it, or are there much better options elsewhere? And Bogor? Tumpak Sewu and the area around Malang?
Bogor is known for two reasons:
- its botanical garden, which is worth a half-day visit
- its close enough proximity to Jakarta to avoid spending a night there before or after a flight. There’s an airport bus line between Jkt and Bogor.
But I mentioned it because you can also take a bus from Bogor to the starting point of Ujung Kulon National Park via a connection in Rangkasbitung, avoiding the stifling Jakarta.
And Bandung and its surroundings?
There are day hikes to do in its surrounding national parks, including volcanoes, botanical gardens, and tea plantations—especially toward Cibodas and the Puncak Pass (avoid going there on weekends).
Thanks for the info...
In the end, we’ll arrive in Jakarta early in the morning, and we’re thinking of heading straight to Bogor to relax after the trip and explore the national parks nearby. But you’re saying we can visit Ujung Kulon National Park from Bogor? Awesome! Do you have any tips on that? The discussions I’ve found on the forum about it are over ten years old... The downside is that we’d end up all the way west on the island, and then to visit other places (Karimunjawa, Dieng, etc.), we’d have to backtrack or head back toward Jakarta, right? We’re just starting to plan our route, and we’re not booking much in advance, which gives us some flexibility once we’re there.
Thanks if you’ve got any more ideas or suggestions...
Don’t plan on visiting the park as a day trip from Bogor—you’ll quickly see why with what follows.
Since you’re now arriving via Jakarta, geographically it makes more sense to start with the park rather than going to Bogor first and then visiting Ujung Kulon N.P. before heading east. It’s better to begin with the park by taking a bus from Jakarta’s Kalideres bus terminal to the town of Labuan.
In Labuan:
-Either you hire an agency that handles all the logistics for visiting the park (mandatory guide, cook, tents, entrance fee, transport to the park entrance, and even boat rental depending on which part of the park you want to explore).
-Or you take transport to Tamanjaya (barely more than one per day) and organize everything yourself once there. The guide (mandatory) you find on-site can help you out.
Plan for at least 3 days/2 nights* to see part of the park, longer if you want to explore multiple areas.
*Plus the night(s) in Labuan and/or Tamanjaya.
Malaria is present in the park.
After your visit, return to Labuan and take a bus to Bogor to continue your itinerary eastward.
Thanks!
It doesn’t seem easy to get to that park 🙁
We’ll think about it some more... We’re still tempted by Bogor, the Dieng Plateau, Bandung, Pangandaran, and Karimunjawa. We’ve already visited Jogja but wouldn’t mind revisiting Merapi... Any ideas or suggestions on those?
We’re hesitating between a loop from Jakarta to Jakarta and a west-to-east route ending in Malang before a flight from Surabaya to Jakarta.
As for access to the islands, I read that there’s no longer a connection from Semarang but there is one from Jepara. Can you confirm?
You can also book an agency before you leave—they’ll take care of you from Jakarta, but like all services booked from abroad, it’ll be more expensive.
We’re still tempted by Bogor, the Dieng Plateau, Bandung, Pangandaran, and Karimunjawa.
The Dieng Plateau isn’t between Bogor and Bandung.
and a west-to-east route ending in Malang before a flight from Surabaya to Jakarta.
In mid-July, there are 3 daily flights from Malang to Jakarta CGK—1 with Citilink and 2 with Batik Air—as well as 2 daily flights from Malang to Jakarta HLP with Batik Air.
As for access to the islands, I read that there’s no longer a connection from Semarang but there is one from Jepara. Can you confirm?
I don’t know about departures from Semarang. From Jepara, it’s 6 times a week.
I’ll repeat my advice not to leave these islands for the very end of your itinerary.
If needed, a tourist shuttle leaves Yogyakarta late in the evening to arrive in Jepara in time for the morning boat. Check Day Trans, but there may be other companies.
Oh, your project sounds great! Honestly, Java is far from being exhausted even after hitting the big classics. So, I’ll share what I picked up while backpacking there a few years ago.
Personally, I’d recommend focusing on the central-western part, like between Bandung and Cilacap. Bandung itself is cool—way less crowded than the volcanic hotspots. You’ve got some nice mountains around, crater lakes... I spent two solid days there without any regrets. From what I remember, there are decent treks, and the vibe is way less touristy.
The *really* underrated spot is the Pangandaran region on the south coast. Basically, a chill beach town with cliffs, caves, and super laid-back locals. Back in 2015, I met a French backpacking family there who’d stayed for four days straight. It’s around 20-30€ a night for a nice guesthouse.
For your 3-week itinerary, I’d suggest something like: Bandung (4-5 days) → Pangandaran (4 days) → Djogja (skip the temples this time—get lost in the surrounding villages or go hiking) → and finish on an island like Karimunjawa. Double-check if it’s still accessible, but it was packed with potential back then. Hardly any tourists at the time.
Honestly, late June is perfect timing—it’s dry. Budget-wise, plan for around 15-20€ per day for decent accommodation outside peak seasons. Travel by train between cities; it’s an adventure in itself.
Here are my tips! Any questions about any of these spots?
Thanks for these ideas—we’re still brainstorming, but the current situation is holding us back a bit...
We’re thinking of trying Bogor (for the national parks), Pangandaran (which looks really nice!), Djoja, then Karimunjawa and Bandung on the way back to Jakarta.
We’d love to see so much more, but we’re telling ourselves there’s no point in rushing—we’ll discover plenty of things once we’re there anyway!
Any favorites or must-visit spots?
Thanks again!
I don’t know about you, but I’m a huge fan of markets. No matter where I go, in every country or city I visit, I won’t leave without having seen one. I’m mostly talking about food markets. I love the smells, the colors, and watching people from all walks of life stroll around. It’s like a mirror of a country’s culture, and I love soaking it all in.
Thai markets are particularly appealing to me. In my province, there are so many. Maybe more than elsewhere—I’m not sure—but every day, you can find a "Talat Nat." These are traveling markets that set up in specific places on specific days. They only stay open for a few hours. Some attract more shoppers than others because they have more stalls and a wider variety of products. Sometimes, they’re set up in pretty unusual spots: temples, roadside, even on train tracks...
On top of these, there are also markets in the city that stay open all day.
I’d love for you to share your photos of markets, local product stalls, and why not, let’s talk about gastronomy and cuisine too!
I’ll start with my favorite market—it’s 8 kilometers from my place and happens every Tuesday from 2 PM to 5 PM. I never miss a Tuesday unless there’s a downpour... 😉 It’s located in the countryside, in a village famous for its coffee (ThamSing), and inside the grounds of a slightly unusual temple. It’s easy to get to—over the past 10 years, the roads have been paved, which wasn’t the case before and made the trip a bit risky when it rained...
In the first two photos, you’ll see the temple courtyard on a normal day, without the market.
Hello fellow travelers, and thanks to everyone for keeping this blog alive!
It’s my turn to ask a question.
For our trip to Laos next year, I’m torn between using a local agency or organizing everything myself with the Lonely Planet guide and tips from VoyageForum.
If I plan it myself, will I still be able to find French-speaking guides on the spot or book excursions in advance?
Thanks for sharing your experiences, and if you have any recommendations for local agencies—just for excursions or even transportation—that’d be great!
Sylvie
Cinefil67
Hi,
We're heading out at the end of the year to join family in Cebu. We're planning to spend a week in the area but are struggling to choose between these 3 islands... Ideally, we'd like to have 2 bases to explore two of them. Have any of you visited all three, and which would you recommend? We're into snorkeling, beautiful excursions, and would also love to connect with locals. And ideally, do all that without too much logistical hassle 😅
Thanks for your experiences/tips!
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam with my partner, and we’re considering Ha Giang in October-November for 4 days on-site to do the loop by bus, since we’re not old enough to ride motorbikes.
I see there are sleeper buses—how does that work for sleeping at night, meals, etc.? And what are the rates per person for these 4 days and nights?
Then there’s Sapa—what’s the most practical way to travel between the two, or should we return to Hanoi?
I’d love recommendations for simple but decent hotels and any other tips you have.
Thanks so much! !
Hi,
Is it useful to rent a car from Puerto Princesa to get to El Nido? Are there any nice stops along the way?
I read that once you arrive in El Nido, most of the beaches and sights are accessed by boat, so I'm wondering if this rental is really worth it...
Thanks for your help
We’re 49 years old, love beautiful landscapes, meeting locals, discovering local food and traditions, and we avoid overly touristy places.
We enjoy hiking, cycling, running, and diving.
This is our first time in Thailand (my husband knows Bangkok).
We arrive on Friday, November 13th in Bangkok (city visit) and return on Friday, November 27th.
We’re considering heading south (possibly toward Krabi) from the 14th to the 18th to enjoy the beautiful beaches, go diving, and see Khao Sok...
Then back to Bangkok and on to Kanchanaburi to see the Sai Yok Noi waterfalls, followed by a bike visit to Ayutthaya.
From there, we’d take an overnight train to the north: Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, and the Lantern Festival from November 21st to 25th.
On the 26th, we’d take a flight from Chiang Mai to Bangkok (city visit), and on the 27th, we have our flight back to France.
Does this itinerary seem too packed?
Should we remove some things to avoid feeling rushed and fully enjoy the trip?
Do you recommend anything other than Krabi?
Hello.
We’re joining our daughter in Ho Chi Minh City for Christmas—she’s studying there. There’ll be five of us adults, and we couldn’t choose our travel dates, so some flights are fixed. I’ve sketched out the following route, but I’m not sure if it all makes sense. This is our fourth trip to Asia (Thailand twice, Lombok, Kuala Lumpur, and Singapore). We often travel on a budget, love authentic spots, and enjoy meeting locals (we’ve done volunteer work and homestays).
18/12: Two of us arrive in HCMC
20/12: Head to Hanoi, where the boys land
20/12 to 23 or 24: Hanoi and day trips around—still deciding
23 or 24 to 26: Phu Quoc, so we can head south and spend Christmas by the beach (one son is crazy about the sea and fishing)
27 to 30: Mekong Delta, stopping in Ha Tien, Chau Doc, and another spot to get back to Ho Chi Minh City
1/1: Return flight to France.
What do you think of this plan—is it doable or totally unrealistic? Any recommendations for a one- or two-day trip from Hanoi (Phu Long, Mai Chau), or is it better to stick around the city?
Thanks in advance for your insights.
I’m planning a 28-day trip to the Philippines starting in the second half of April, and I’m skipping all the super touristy spots.
I’ve got some ideas, but they’re still a bit vague and scattered, and I’d love your help and tips to finalize my itinerary.
For this trip, I’m mostly looking for architecture, ancestral homes, cultural discoveries, local crafts, exceptional natural sites, and islands with beautiful, less crowded beaches—especially avoiding international tourists.
So here are my ideas, and I’d really appreciate your advice:
1- Surigao del Sur, if security allows: the Enchanted River in Hinatuan and Tinuy-an Falls in Bislig City.
2- Iloilo City, Bacolod, Silay
3- The Heritage Town of Taal
4- Banaue and Batad
5- Romblon Island (Bonbon Beach and the marble workshops in Romblon town)
6- Bolinao Falls and Hundred Islands in Pangasinan
7- Baguio, Vigan, Laoag, and Pagudpud (Saud Beach and/or Blue Lagoon)
8- Guimaras Island, Samal Island, and Dinagat Island
I know logistically it’s impossible to cover all the spots I’ve listed in 28 days, which is why I’m counting on your advice to drop a few destinations that might not be worth the detour and highlight the must-sees.
Thanks in advance
Hi,
We're planning to visit this region as a couple for a few days during our trip to Vietnam.
What should we do with 3 to 4 days there, and how can we get around to the different spots?
Should we return to Sapa every day or stay in different places each night?
Any tips on accommodations, dining, and must-see sites?
Also, advice on traveling from Hanoi to Sapa.
Thanks so much for helping us prepare for this autumn 2027 trip!
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We're planning a little trip along the west side, visiting KL, Malacca, then heading up to Penang and ending with a few days at the beach.
The most common option would be to finish the stay in Langkawi. My question: are there other spots with beautiful beaches on this coast where we could spend 4 to 5 days?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I’d like to know if it’s possible (and reasonable) to travel directly between Battambang and Kampot?
From what I’ve gathered, all the buses between these two destinations go back through Phnom Penh, which means we’d have to spend an extra night there in the middle of our trip. That’s not ideal for us.
Hello, South Sulawesi loop: Makassar-Ramang Ramang-Rantepao-Sengkang-Lake Tempe-Bira. Which direction should I take for this loop, starting and ending in Makassar?
Public transport preferred, and about 3 weeks in total.
Any nice homestays? And tips for solo travel?
Thanks, Françoise
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
After a stay in Hua Hin and before another in Chiang Mai, I’d like to break up the trip from Bangkok to Chiang Mai into several stops. I’ve found bus and train routes on Maps, but I’m stuck on the connection between Ban Rai / Uthai Thani and then Nakhon Sawan (bus for the latter).
Does anyone have any idea where I could find info, maybe via Route 333?
I know my question isn’t super general or exciting, but if you can help, thanks!
Hi there,
We’re planning a backpacking trip to Northern Malaysia and northern Sumatra in February/March 2027. It’ll be our first time in these areas (we’re pretty familiar with the rest of Asia). Thanks in advance for your favorite spots and diving recommendations! It’s still very open-ended—we haven’t set anything in stone yet.
Thanks,
I’d like to do a kind of personal retreat this winter and I’m looking for a destination near the sea (preferably an island) that’s quiet. Is that possible in Thailand, or should I consider another destination?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Dayi
This September, my partner and I are heading to North Sulawesi for 3 weeks. Our international flight is with Malaysia Airlines, departing from Paris. We have a layover in KL, then fly to Denpasar, followed by a domestic flight from Denpasar to Manado. We land in Bali Denpasar on 05/09 around 12:00 PM, and our flight to Manado is on 07/09 at 1:30 AM. The plan was to have at least one night (from the 5th to the 6th of September) between our international flight and our flight to Manado, just to recharge a bit since we're not 20 anymore 😛. My question is, given the very short stop in Bali (a day and a half), is it better to stay in Denpasar rather than go to Ubud for the night? I’ve been to Bali before, and from what I remember, even though the distances are short, transfers take a long time because of the extremely heavy traffic—but I was there in July, not September. I’m not sure if that makes a big difference?
If the answer is "it’s better to stay in Denpasar," are there any nice places to visit? There’s very little feedback about the city since tourists usually don’t stick around.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hello everyone! I’m heading off solo in February and wanted to share my rough itinerary with you. Does this sound doable?
PS: I’m not really into beaches.
D1 Departure on February 17, 2027
D2 Arrival in Kuala Lumpur – stroll through Chinatown and visit the Petronas Towers
D3: Kuala Lumpur – Chow Kit Market, Batu Caves, Little India, Bukit Bintang downtown area
D4: Early morning bus to Malacca. Explore Malacca in the afternoon and evening
D5: Another 2–3 hours in Malacca in the morning, then bus back to Kuala Lumpur. Merdeka Square area. Stay in Chinatown
D6: Bus trip to Kuala Tahan. Night tour
D7: Morning – canopy walk and Bukit Terisek hike. Afternoon – off to Lata Berkoh
D8 & D9: 2-day jungle trek in Taman Negara National Park
D10: Head to Cameron Highlands
D11: Morning hike through the plantations. Afternoon still to be decided
D12: Morning – excursion to Mossy Forest and Sungei Plantation. Afternoon bus to Ipoh
D13: Morning – Mirror Lake / Sam Poh Temple area. Afternoon – explore downtown Ipoh
D14: Morning train to Penang. Afternoon – wander around Georgetown
D15: Morning – Penang Hill and Keh Loh Temple. Afternoon – Georgetown
D16: Bus to Butterfly Garden and Spice Garden. Late afternoon – Burmese and Thai temples
D17: Morning flight to Singapore. Afternoon – Chinatown and Marina Bay tour
D18: Morning – Gardens by the Bay area. Afternoon – Boat Quay, Clarke Quay, Kampong Glam
D19: Morning – The Ridges area and Botanical Garden. Afternoon – Little India, then back to Chinatown before 11:15 PM return flight
D20: Morning arrival
Hi everyone.
I’m heading to Malaysia for five weeks over the holiday season.
I just found out that tourists can pay by QR code like locals (street food, small shops) to avoid using cash.
This works with apps like Wise or TNG eWallet.
Has anyone tried this system before?
Hi, I’ve read that these two volcanoes are super popular and that there are *tons* of people for sunrise, especially in July. I’m looking for firsthand accounts from anyone who’s done it later, around 9–10 a.m.
Thanks for your help!
Laëtitia
First stop on our discovery of the peninsula: Amphawa. It’s our first night in Thailand (we arrived at Suvarnabhumi at 8:50 AM).
Our initial plan was to explore the area before heading further south. The Mae Klong Railway Market is tempting... but what else is there to do????
We’ll be there on a Wednesday, and from what I’ve read on the forum, some say there’s absolutely nothing to do during the week—no floating market, barely any shops open, no restaurants, etc.
Others, though, say the place is actually more charming without the weekend crowds.
Could you share your thoughts? Missing the floating market is one thing, but if it’s really a ghost town on Wednesdays, I might just drop our bags somewhere else.
Amphawa seemed like a good first stop, just 1.5 hours from the airport, but I’d still like to settle somewhere a bit lively for our first evening.
We’ll be there at the end of October.
Thanks!
Hi,
I wanted to visit the plantations in the morning with GetYourGuide or by just showing up.
How much time should I really plan for?
I’d like to catch either the 3 PM or 5 PM bus back to KL.
Thanks
Hi,
I wanted to get some info about the cable car and the bridge—I see lots of different options...
How much time should we allow for these two activities? If we arrive around 4 PM, will we have enough time to visit without rushing?
Thanks
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.