Lufthansa's bad faith
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Good evening everyone, I wanted to change my ticket with Lufthansa. There was no information about the price of the change on the confirmation.

On the LUFTHANSA website, it finally states that the change costs nothing except the price difference between the two tickets.

However, when I call, the advisors want to charge us 130 € in fees per person. I spoke to a supervisor on the phone who refused to listen.

I would have obviously paid if the fees had been indicated. However, the fare conditions on the website for my booking clearly state that the fees are zero.

I don’t know what to do now. What do you advise in this situation? I’m really facing total bad faith from Lufthansa.

Thanks in advance. Have a great evening everyone!
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Good evening,

There might be a price difference between the tickets, right?

Michel
MI Michelzen Globetrotter ·
Well, I called and the agents wanted to charge us 130 € in fees per person. I spoke to a supervisor who refused to listen. I would’ve obviously paid if the fees were stated. But the fare conditions on the website for my booking clearly say the fees are zero...

Before talking about LH’s bad faith, it’d be good to be precise—what exactly are these 130 € in fees for?
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen! Michel France (85)
DO Dom751 Globetrotter ·
Do you see the fare class anywhere on your booking? How much did you pay for a round-trip ticket? Generally, modifiable tickets are pretty expensive.

Have you tried changing the tickets yourself on the website?
KI Kimy6791 Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

While running a simulation on the airline’s website:

Economy: - Light fare: can’t modify the booking, - Basic and Basic Plus fares: Change fee of 130 € plus any fare difference.

Premium Economy: Change fee of 190 € plus any fare difference.

Which fare did you go with?
Quelques Voyages en Photos
BR Brdn75 Regular ·
No, that's not fair :/
BR Brdn75 Regular ·
Flight ticket modification fees. What annoys me is that the site clearly shows 0. Or maybe there’s an issue with their website...
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi,

Where does your screenshot come from? What’s the name of the fare on your ticket?

Ticket change fee. What annoys me is that the site clearly shows 0. Or maybe there’s an issue with their site...

Michel
BR Brdn75 Regular ·
Just to be clear, a few months ago, Lufthansa changed the schedule for our return flight, so we had to modify the return trip. On the new confirmation, they state that we need to check their website for modification fees.

Speaking of which, their website shows 0. No sign of the 130 € anywhere.
BR Brdn75 Regular ·
Good evening, Thanks for these details. Indeed, I’m on the basic fare. However, if the reservation shows 0, I think that 0 should be applied.

Don’t you agree?
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Displaying booking information isn't contractual, I don't think. I've sometimes noticed errors like that on my flight confirmations, in the fare conditions, or in the details about how long you need to stay to get the fare, etc. The fact is, Basic is the fare you paid, right? So you won't be able to get anything. Otherwise, take commercial action if you feel you've been misled.

Michel

Good evening, Thanks for these details. You're right, I'm on the Basic fare. However, if it says 0 on the booking, I think 0 should be applied.

After all, don't you think so?
BR Brdn75 Regular ·
Okay, I didn’t know about the display:

What made me feel scammed was when the agent changed my flight a few months ago and told me these were new tickets. So I deleted the old ones.

And on these new tickets, there’s no mention of the 130 €. The only number on my booking online is 0.

This is what really bothers me. If the 130 € were clearly stated, no problem—but that’s not the case here.

Thanks for your help, though!
KY Kyle68 Veteran ·
Another solution: contact Lufthansa’s customer service in writing. Explain the situation with the screenshot. They might offer a goodwill gesture. These “second-line” services sometimes have more flexibility.
BA Bairrovoyage Veteran ·
Hi Brendan,

Watch out: If you took a screenshot some time ago and Lufthansa (LH) announced a schedule change on their end (their "fault"), it goes without saying that they’ll let you change your date (or flight) for free. After all, they want to keep you as a customer!

However, once you’ve accepted that change, the "standard" conditions of your booking class (the one you bought and paid for) apply again. Is Lufthansa really acting in bad faith?

So, when did you take that screenshot?

Thanks, Chris
BR Brdn75 Regular ·
Hi, My screenshot is from Sunday, and the change was made almost 5 months ago. I’m going to call Lufthansa customer service again 😤
AR Ardphil ·
Lufthansa ordered to pay 600 € in compensation. Lufthansa flight on Dec. 4, 2023, canceled the day before! No replacement offered, couldn’t reach them by phone, no response to our email after we got back, and they didn’t even follow the European directive! We handed the case over to Air Indemnité, and after about a year and a half of proceedings (completely hassle-free for us), Lufthansa was ordered to pay. Thanks to Air Indemnité. I highly recommend using Air Indemnité for your air travel disputes. A law firm specializing in air travel disputes had refused to take our case. We found this firm online. Makes you wonder who’s really behind these so-called firms? We got 300 € each (for 2 people).
pascal
EL ElviajeroPar Globetrotter ·
Hello,

Okay, let’s sum this up:

Your Lufthansa flight was canceled with no rebooking offered.

In such cases, Lufthansa was required, SIMULTANEOUSLY with the cancellation, to give you the choice between:

a refund; a rebooking "as soon as possible," free of charge, even in a higher class, whether on one of their flights or with another airline, even if it’s not part of the same alliance; a rebooking at a later date if that suited you better.

If they failed to meet these obligations, you could demand that Lufthansa:

refund your canceled ticket; or refund the price difference you would have paid for another flight.

ON TOP OF THIS, you’re entitled to compensation (in your case, 600 € per paying passenger, unless the airline can PROVE—not just claim—that the cancellation was due to (I quote) "extraordinary circumstances that could not have been avoided even if all reasonable measures had been taken" (end of quote).

Among these "reasonable measures" is the obligation to offer rebooking "as soon as possible," which, in the absence of any rebooking offer, invalidates the "extraordinary circumstances" exception.

For example, see the ruling against Swiss International Air Lines for a flight canceled due to weather (undeniable, as Zurich Airport was closed for a few hours). The court ordered the 600 € compensation provided by regulations, plus damages and interest, plus Article 700 costs, totaling 1,300 € in penalties. Flight cancellation compensation, denied boarding (overbooking or not)... – Jan 12, 24 Disastrous rebooking—Right to compensation even in "extraordinary..."

retardimportantavion@gmail.com Last updated August 14, 2025 For full details on your rights, check here: Right to compensation even if "extraordinary circumstances"

And, more broadly, here: Flight cancellation compensation, denied boarding (overbooking or not)... – Sep 29, 23 COMPENSATION EVEN IF EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES + RIGHT TO REBOOKING...

retardimportantavion@gmail.com Last updated: January 10, 2025 For full details on your rights, visit the homepage of this blog here: If an airline cancels...

You were also entitled to coverage (or reimbursement upon presentation of receipts) for meals, hotel stays, and round-trip transportation while waiting for the rebooking flight—whether the rebooking was offered by Lufthansa or, if none was offered, the one you had to rebook yourself.

The dispute was with Lufthansa, an airline headquartered in an EU member state different from your country of residence.

This allowed you to use the "European Small Claims Procedure." It’s a written process (no hearing, in principle) that’s extremely simplified (no conciliation hearing either).

See an example of a procedure against Lufthansa under this process here: Flight cancellation compensation, denied boarding (overbooking or not)... – Oct 23, 24 Lufthansa: Champion of passenger rights violations

Last updated: August 27, 2025 retardimportantavion@gmail.com For full details on your rights, visit the homepage of this blog here: Here’s a clear case of multipl...

All the passenger had to do was:

send a registered letter; fill out a form; write a statement for the court that anyone can use for a similar case; have a lot of patience. Then, since Lufthansa didn’t comply with the ruling, the passenger had to knock on a bailiff’s door (now called a "commissioner of justice"). But obviously, anyone can do that—it can even be done online! The link above will be updated soon because, of course, Lufthansa had to reimburse the 80 € in bailiff fees.

In conclusion, you’re happy to have received 600 € instead of double, not to have gotten a refund for the canceled ticket (or the reimbursement for the new ticket you had to buy), and not to have been reimbursed for expenses while waiting for the rebooking flight.

This agency only handled the compensation (taking a 50% cut!!!) and nothing else. That’s not good work. And you’re recommending them!!!

Best regards,
https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com
PA Patrick91230 Globetrotter ·
Absolutely, these agencies are designed to squeeze money out of you—your money—and don’t dig any deeper. Definitely **not** recommended. It’s best to handle the regulatory steps yourself.
Cordialement, Patrick.

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