On aime bien sortir des sentiers battus donc si jamais vous avez des bons plans, nous sommes preneuses!!! Merci!!
Mal des montagnes et trajet au Pérou
by Stoofanie
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour, nous partons au Pérou pour 1 mois. Nous arrivons à Lima le 4 mai et nous aimerions partir vers Huaraz le lendemain pour passer 3 ou 4 jours dans cette région.
Pensez vous que c'est une mauvaise idée de commencer directement ce voyage en montant aussi haut (3000m) ?
Pour le reste du voyage, dans les grandes lignes et dans l'ordre:
Lima-Huaraz-Ica-Nazca-Arequipa-Lac Titicaca (surement côté Bolivie à Copacabana)-Cuzco puis Puerto Maldonado et retour sur Lima en avion 2 jours avant le départ.
Pensez vous que c'est réalisable en 27 jours sur place?
On aime bien sortir des sentiers battus donc si jamais vous avez des bons plans, nous sommes preneuses!!! Merci!!
On aime bien sortir des sentiers battus donc si jamais vous avez des bons plans, nous sommes preneuses!!! Merci!!
Bonjour Stéphanie,
Je suis allée au Pérou en septembre dernier, en ce qui concerne l'altitude je te conseille d'y aller progressivement. Moi personnellement, j'ai eu des maux de tête entre Lima et Arequipa (altitude 2335m environ) et même jusqu'au Lac titi-caca. Après tout le monde est différent, mais je pense que c'est plus prudent d'y aller en douceur : en tout cas, j'ai pas arrêter de mâcher des feuilles de coca pendant tout mon voyage! ça aide bien je pense!
J'ai fait à peu près le même parcours que toi hormi Ica, Nazca et Huaraz (par manque de temps). En tout cas, je vous recommande le trek de la colca (vers Arequipa) et le trek du Salkantay (Cuzco) qui abouti au Machu Pichu!
A mon grand regret, je n'ai pas fait le trek que je voulais vers Puerto Maldonado, si vous voulez sortir des chemin battu, je crois qu'il y a un trek vers Vilcabamba, peut-être moins touristique... Si vous passez par une agence, certaine peuvent vous faire des treks un peu sur mesure, hors des sentiers battus, mais il faut le préciser.
Pour ton circuit, je pense que ça va être un peu chaud en 27 jours....tout dépend de ce que tu veux faire, mais les treks prennent du temps mine de rien!! Moi je suis partie 21 jours ( en comptant l'avion) et j'ai fait lima, arequipa, cuzco, lac titi caca, puerto maldonado.... En tout cas ne t'attarde pas à Lima!!
Si tu as d'autres questions n'hésites pas, j'espère que j'ai pu répondre à tes questions.
Béa
Je suis allée au Pérou en septembre dernier, en ce qui concerne l'altitude je te conseille d'y aller progressivement. Moi personnellement, j'ai eu des maux de tête entre Lima et Arequipa (altitude 2335m environ) et même jusqu'au Lac titi-caca. Après tout le monde est différent, mais je pense que c'est plus prudent d'y aller en douceur : en tout cas, j'ai pas arrêter de mâcher des feuilles de coca pendant tout mon voyage! ça aide bien je pense!
J'ai fait à peu près le même parcours que toi hormi Ica, Nazca et Huaraz (par manque de temps). En tout cas, je vous recommande le trek de la colca (vers Arequipa) et le trek du Salkantay (Cuzco) qui abouti au Machu Pichu!
A mon grand regret, je n'ai pas fait le trek que je voulais vers Puerto Maldonado, si vous voulez sortir des chemin battu, je crois qu'il y a un trek vers Vilcabamba, peut-être moins touristique... Si vous passez par une agence, certaine peuvent vous faire des treks un peu sur mesure, hors des sentiers battus, mais il faut le préciser.
Pour ton circuit, je pense que ça va être un peu chaud en 27 jours....tout dépend de ce que tu veux faire, mais les treks prennent du temps mine de rien!! Moi je suis partie 21 jours ( en comptant l'avion) et j'ai fait lima, arequipa, cuzco, lac titi caca, puerto maldonado.... En tout cas ne t'attarde pas à Lima!!
Si tu as d'autres questions n'hésites pas, j'espère que j'ai pu répondre à tes questions.
Béa
Bonjour,
Le ressenti de l'altitude est très variable selon les gens... Rien ne peut garantir que tout se passera bien et en douceur.
Parmi les recommandations de base: - s'habituer à l'altitude en montant progressivement, par palier de 500 mètres maxi à partir de 2 000/2 500 mètres - boire beaucoup d'eau - s'écouter et si cela va mal redescendre le plus vite possible - envisager d'emporter du Diamox pour les très hautes altitudes (au cas où) - ...
J'ajoutreai de commencer à prendre Coca 9ch en granules homéopathiques avant de partir et pendant si le maté de Coca vous disconvient.
Le ressenti de l'altitude est très variable selon les gens... Rien ne peut garantir que tout se passera bien et en douceur.
Parmi les recommandations de base: - s'habituer à l'altitude en montant progressivement, par palier de 500 mètres maxi à partir de 2 000/2 500 mètres - boire beaucoup d'eau - s'écouter et si cela va mal redescendre le plus vite possible - envisager d'emporter du Diamox pour les très hautes altitudes (au cas où) - ...
J'ajoutreai de commencer à prendre Coca 9ch en granules homéopathiques avant de partir et pendant si le maté de Coca vous disconvient.
Pour les effets de l'altitude je vous conseille de consulter un médecin spécialisé dans le voyage. Genre travel clinic. Le nôtre nous a prescrit un médicament que nous avons emporté mais que nous n'avons pas utilisé. Nous avons nous aussi mâché les feuilles de coca proposées par notre guide et je ne saurai jamais si c'est la raison pour laquelle nous n'avons absolument rien ressenti en restant max à 4000m. Comme dit la précédente personne : chaque voyageur est différent.
Bon séjour dans ce magnifique pays.
Véro
Bon séjour dans ce magnifique pays.
Véro
Dernier séjour dont nous avons parlé en ligne http://www.veroeddy.be/europe/uk/from-scotland-with-love
Depuis janvier 2012 http://www.veroeddy.be
Merci pour tous vos conseils, je vais en tenir compte et sûrement revoir mon trajet pour sauter qqles étapes, histoires de bien profiter de chaque "régions"!! Si jamais vous avez un bon plan pour un hôtel à lima pour passer la première nuit...bon marché si possible! Thank's
Voici deux adresses où nous sommes descendus à Miraflores. C'est pas particulièrement bon marché.
http://www.theplacehostal.com.pe/hostalesenlimaperu.html
Rien d'extraordinaire, mais bien situé et avec salle de bain.
http://www.lacasanostraperu.com/
Tout aussi bien situé, un peu moins cher et un peu mieux. Plus personnalisé aussi.
Cordialement
Véro
http://www.theplacehostal.com.pe/hostalesenlimaperu.html
Rien d'extraordinaire, mais bien situé et avec salle de bain.
http://www.lacasanostraperu.com/
Tout aussi bien situé, un peu moins cher et un peu mieux. Plus personnalisé aussi.
Cordialement
Véro
Dernier séjour dont nous avons parlé en ligne http://www.veroeddy.be/europe/uk/from-scotland-with-love
Depuis janvier 2012 http://www.veroeddy.be
Bonjour,
je consulte ce merveilleux forum en large et en travers depuis quelques semaines pour préparer egalement notre séjour. Concernant le mal des montagnes, j'ai lu sur le forum que certains prenait de l'homeopathie COCA 9 ch. ma pharmacienne m'en a "prescrit" quatre tube (nous sommes deux) pour 7 euros et des patates. on verra à l'usage...
bonne préparation de séjour... cette phase est passionnante déjà :) gil
je consulte ce merveilleux forum en large et en travers depuis quelques semaines pour préparer egalement notre séjour. Concernant le mal des montagnes, j'ai lu sur le forum que certains prenait de l'homeopathie COCA 9 ch. ma pharmacienne m'en a "prescrit" quatre tube (nous sommes deux) pour 7 euros et des patates. on verra à l'usage...
bonne préparation de séjour... cette phase est passionnante déjà :) gil
Bonjour,
Nous en avons pris à chaque voyage en "altitude" et la plupart des fois cela nous a aidé. Nous sentions la différence en suçant les granules lorsque nous marchions, par exemple. L'avantage c'est qu'il n'y a pas besoin d'eau par rapport à de la tisane (maté) et c'est moins amer que les feuilles.
Toutefois, lors de notre voyage de l'été 2012, ni les granules, ni le maté n'ont suffi.
Belle suite de prépa... C'est aussi une phase que j'apprécie bcp
Nous en avons pris à chaque voyage en "altitude" et la plupart des fois cela nous a aidé. Nous sentions la différence en suçant les granules lorsque nous marchions, par exemple. L'avantage c'est qu'il n'y a pas besoin d'eau par rapport à de la tisane (maté) et c'est moins amer que les feuilles.
Toutefois, lors de notre voyage de l'été 2012, ni les granules, ni le maté n'ont suffi.
Belle suite de prépa... C'est aussi une phase que j'apprécie bcp
Salut Stoofanie !!
je reviendrais pas sur le mal des montagnes, si ce n est que les feuilles de coca marchent merveilleusement bien et sont tres bons marche. De notre cote, on etait au Perou en janvier et on a fait la rando de Choquequirao, a cote de Cachora (et Abancay pour la grosse ville). Ce site est magique et aussi beau que le Macchu Pichu. Le seul hic : il est a 2 jours de marche et il y a comme 1500m de denivele positif (descente a la riviere et belle remontee) mais il se loue des mules et des guides et le matos de rando . L entree coute 4 fois moins cher que son voisin et il est encore bien preserve. Il est prevu de construire un telepherique des l annee prochaine.... adieu la tranquilite Pour plus d infos on a un blog : anotretour.en-escale.com
Pour Copacabana, sache que c est tres touristique et on te prend bien pour un guichet de banque !! fais tes achats souvenir avant ou apres mais pas la !!!
sinon bon voyage et attention aux bus qui ont des fuites au toit quand il pleut !! ;-)
je reviendrais pas sur le mal des montagnes, si ce n est que les feuilles de coca marchent merveilleusement bien et sont tres bons marche. De notre cote, on etait au Perou en janvier et on a fait la rando de Choquequirao, a cote de Cachora (et Abancay pour la grosse ville). Ce site est magique et aussi beau que le Macchu Pichu. Le seul hic : il est a 2 jours de marche et il y a comme 1500m de denivele positif (descente a la riviere et belle remontee) mais il se loue des mules et des guides et le matos de rando . L entree coute 4 fois moins cher que son voisin et il est encore bien preserve. Il est prevu de construire un telepherique des l annee prochaine.... adieu la tranquilite Pour plus d infos on a un blog : anotretour.en-escale.com
Pour Copacabana, sache que c est tres touristique et on te prend bien pour un guichet de banque !! fais tes achats souvenir avant ou apres mais pas la !!!
sinon bon voyage et attention aux bus qui ont des fuites au toit quand il pleut !! ;-)
je te conseil boire du "Mate de Coca" ou qui est miux "Muña", et surtout ne vois pas rien froid la-bas, meme si il y a du soeil car le vent est froid et si tu mange de choses froid aprés tu auras mal au vientre
Francisco
Bonjour,
Merci infiniment pour tous ces conseils. Je m'inspire beaucoup de ce forum pour préparer notre périple en Amérique du Sud début 2014. Le but est principalement la Patagonie mais on aimerait faire un stop prolongé au Pérou, pour lequel j'ai préparé cet itinéraire sur lequel j'ai des doutes...
Jour1. Lima – location de voiture - Route versNazca. Arrêt à Chilca – 84 km – 1h 15 Jour2. Chilca – Ica – 235 km – 3 h – (ou Pisco) Jour3. Ica –Nazca – 151 km – 2 h Jour4. Nazca – Atico par la PanAméricaine – 258 km– 3 h 20 Jour5. Atico – Arequipa – 307 km – 4 h 12 Jour6. Arequipa Jour7. VolArequipa – Juliaca – 50 mn avec LAN – Taxi Juliaca à Puno Jour8. Visite des îles Uros et Taquile Jour9. Avion pour Cuzco Jour10. Machu Picchu Jour11. Machu Picchu Jour12. Cuzco - Lima – et Lima - Santiago (avion) Je sais qu'il y aura des frais importants pour l'abandon de la voiture mais cela gagne du temps! Le site du gouvernement est très alarmiste concernant les conditions de circulation mais il me semble que la route qu'on emprunterait ne soit pas concernée par les mises en garde. Merci de vos avis et contre-propositions sur ce projet.
Jour1. Lima – location de voiture - Route versNazca. Arrêt à Chilca – 84 km – 1h 15 Jour2. Chilca – Ica – 235 km – 3 h – (ou Pisco) Jour3. Ica –Nazca – 151 km – 2 h Jour4. Nazca – Atico par la PanAméricaine – 258 km– 3 h 20 Jour5. Atico – Arequipa – 307 km – 4 h 12 Jour6. Arequipa Jour7. VolArequipa – Juliaca – 50 mn avec LAN – Taxi Juliaca à Puno Jour8. Visite des îles Uros et Taquile Jour9. Avion pour Cuzco Jour10. Machu Picchu Jour11. Machu Picchu Jour12. Cuzco - Lima – et Lima - Santiago (avion) Je sais qu'il y aura des frais importants pour l'abandon de la voiture mais cela gagne du temps! Le site du gouvernement est très alarmiste concernant les conditions de circulation mais il me semble que la route qu'on emprunterait ne soit pas concernée par les mises en garde. Merci de vos avis et contre-propositions sur ce projet.
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Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi everyone!
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028. I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄). This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028. I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄). This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Bonjour a tous,
je pars en voyage au Maroc en aout et nous allons commencer par nous arrêter a Chefchaouen(nous sommes en voiture).
Ma question: quelqu'un peut il m'indiquer un itinéraire de rando en boucle d'entre 5 et 7 jours aux départ de Chefchaouen dans le parc de Talassemtane passant si possible par le pont de dieux?Ou un guide papier qui en reunis quelques uns?
Nous privilégions le camping sauvage et les gites.
Merci d'avance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann





