Le Maroc en octobre
by Nonoz
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Intéressé par une découverte du Maroc sac à dos en octobre, je suis à la recherche de bons plan afin de rester le + longtemps sur place.
Je pense prendre le ferry Sète-Tanger, est-ce la meilleur solution?
Pour une immersion totale, je compte voyager seul durant la majeur partie du voyage, mais je serai heureux de partager quelques jours dans ce magnifique pays (c'est mon premier trip au Maroc).
De plus, si vous avez un super plan pour découvrir les portes du desert pendant 3 à 4 jours, j'en serai ravie, merci...
salut nonoz!
C'est un bon plan le maroc, pas trop loin de la france et pas trop cher non plus, tout est relatif bien sur.
Pour le bateau qui fait la liaison entre Sète et Tanger, je te conseille d'acheter ton billet le plus tôt possible car les places se réservent vite et il ne te restera que les places cabines qui sont assez chères (à peu près 300 euros pour une seule personne sans voiture)! Remarque peut etre qu'en octobre ca se sera un peu calmé au niveau réservations.
Maintenant si tu ressens l'envie de partager des moments avec d'autres voyageurs, n'aies crainte tu trouveras facilement des européens et surtout des français une fois que tu seras sur place, sauf dans le grand sud du Maroc (au sud de Ifni, il est rare de voir des petits blancs) héhé faut avoir le courage de descendre aussi bas.
En tous cas, bravo pour ton voyage, le maroc demeure un pays très agréable à visiter et ses habitants sont très chaleureux, accueillants, et très hospitaliers, ils n'hésiteront pas à t'accueillir chez eux pour partager leur diner s'ils te trouvent sympa! Surtout ne refuse pas si ca se produit, ils prendraient ca comme une offense. Si ca te gène d'être invité à force, essaie de prévoir le coup avant qu'ils te proposent à nouveau.
Pour la découverte du désert, je ne connais pas encore, mais ce sera l'un de mes prochains voyages 😛, Ouarzazate et les portes du désert! yes!
A+
C'est un bon plan le maroc, pas trop loin de la france et pas trop cher non plus, tout est relatif bien sur.
Pour le bateau qui fait la liaison entre Sète et Tanger, je te conseille d'acheter ton billet le plus tôt possible car les places se réservent vite et il ne te restera que les places cabines qui sont assez chères (à peu près 300 euros pour une seule personne sans voiture)! Remarque peut etre qu'en octobre ca se sera un peu calmé au niveau réservations.
Maintenant si tu ressens l'envie de partager des moments avec d'autres voyageurs, n'aies crainte tu trouveras facilement des européens et surtout des français une fois que tu seras sur place, sauf dans le grand sud du Maroc (au sud de Ifni, il est rare de voir des petits blancs) héhé faut avoir le courage de descendre aussi bas.
En tous cas, bravo pour ton voyage, le maroc demeure un pays très agréable à visiter et ses habitants sont très chaleureux, accueillants, et très hospitaliers, ils n'hésiteront pas à t'accueillir chez eux pour partager leur diner s'ils te trouvent sympa! Surtout ne refuse pas si ca se produit, ils prendraient ca comme une offense. Si ca te gène d'être invité à force, essaie de prévoir le coup avant qu'ils te proposent à nouveau.
Pour la découverte du désert, je ne connais pas encore, mais ce sera l'un de mes prochains voyages 😛, Ouarzazate et les portes du désert! yes!
A+
Good Vibes !
comme dis Jerémy :ses habitants sont très chaleureux, accueillants, et très hospitaliers, ils n'hésiteront pas à t'accueillir chez eux pour partager leur diner s'ils te trouvent sympa! ...moi autant qu'habitant de casablanca (au maroc ça ;) )je te propose si ça peux t'arranger de t'héberger klke jour chez mois, et aussi de t'aider a prganiser ton depart pour le sud, et surtout Ouarzazat la porte du désert ou j'ai des amis la bas qui eux aussi peuvent t'aider et meme t'héberger si té assez simpa :)
Cordialement ...
- On n'est pas chez soi Là où l'on habite Mais là où l'on se sent bien
- Les paroles sincères ne sont pas élégantes; les paroles élégantes ne sont pas sincères
Salut Jérémie
Ton message est encourageant, il valide mes idées concernant ce fascinant pays.
Il ne me reste plus qu'a réserver le ferry pour que ce projet aboutisse. Je crois que je vais prendre un certain plaisir à organiser ce premier trip perso.
En ce qui concerne les portes du désert, je te rassure, je ne compte pas me mesurer au Sahara, je pense aux dunes de Merzouga (l'erg chabbi), mais je verais sur place...
Comme tu me l'a précisé, la recontre avec d'autres voyageurs se fait facilement, ok, c'est à la fois sympa et pratique (possibilité de prendre à plusieurs un grand taxi, 6 places).
J'espère que le plaisir se situera dans l'improvisation de rencontres.
Autre chose, je prévoisun budget moyen de 15 € par jour (bouf, trajet bus ou grand taxi et nuit sur les toîts d'hotels si nuit pas trop froide).
Qu'est ce que t'en pense ?
Ton message est encourageant, il valide mes idées concernant ce fascinant pays.
Il ne me reste plus qu'a réserver le ferry pour que ce projet aboutisse. Je crois que je vais prendre un certain plaisir à organiser ce premier trip perso.
En ce qui concerne les portes du désert, je te rassure, je ne compte pas me mesurer au Sahara, je pense aux dunes de Merzouga (l'erg chabbi), mais je verais sur place...
Comme tu me l'a précisé, la recontre avec d'autres voyageurs se fait facilement, ok, c'est à la fois sympa et pratique (possibilité de prendre à plusieurs un grand taxi, 6 places).
J'espère que le plaisir se situera dans l'improvisation de rencontres.
Autre chose, je prévoisun budget moyen de 15 € par jour (bouf, trajet bus ou grand taxi et nuit sur les toîts d'hotels si nuit pas trop froide).
Qu'est ce que t'en pense ?
Salam nonoz,
une fois au maroc tu peux utiliser les bus pour tes trajets et la meilleure compagnie c'est la C.T.M et il faut compter pour un trajet par exemple Casa-Ouarzazate (450km) 12euros.Pour le sud je te conseille de prevoir 4 à 5 joursune journnée consacrée a la visite des environs de Ouarzazate( Kasbahs, studio de cinéma, oasis...)2 jours pour la vallée du Draa et le désert coté Mhamid avec une nuit au bivouac2 jours pour la vallée de Dadés et ses gorges, la vallée des roses, Tinghir et les gorges du Todgha ensuite tu peux continuer vers Erfoud et Merzouga.
Pour le budget il faut prévoir 5à7 euros pour la nuit dans un petit hotel propre et 5 euros pour un bon repas dans un petit restaurant et 1.5 euros pour le petit déjeuner.
Pour le transport en taxi collectif il faut compter à peu prés 3 euros par trajet de 100 km.Si tu as besion d'autres informations sur le sud marocain tu peux me contacter sans probléme en consultant mon site www.cherg.com à +
Bonjour et merci à tous ceux qui m'on donné d'intéressantes infos.
Aujourd'hui, le point est que le prix du billet Sète-Tanger en ferry est trop élevé (335 € A/R)
alors, la dernière solution pour que je puisse faire ce trip tant attendu est le covoiturage France-Esp-Maroc ou le car!!
Si l'un d'entre vous à un bon plan, faites-le moi savoir au plus vite, merci d'avance.
Je réponderais plus tard (je suis au taf) à ceux qui on pris le temps de le faire pour moi.
arnaud
Aujourd'hui, le point est que le prix du billet Sète-Tanger en ferry est trop élevé (335 € A/R)
alors, la dernière solution pour que je puisse faire ce trip tant attendu est le covoiturage France-Esp-Maroc ou le car!!
Si l'un d'entre vous à un bon plan, faites-le moi savoir au plus vite, merci d'avance.
Je réponderais plus tard (je suis au taf) à ceux qui on pris le temps de le faire pour moi.
arnaud
Salut nonoz!
Si le bateau est trop cher, il y a des vols charter pour moins cher, mais evidemment partant de paris.
Les tarifs commencent à 200euros l'aller/retour (en te débrouillant sur les dates), sachant que la ville d'arrivée peut être différente de la ville de départ.
Sur le site suivant: http://www.safartours.fr/ tu trouveras les tarifs jusqu'au mois de septembre, mais il faut demander la brochure.
Reste à te renseigner sur les prix paris/nantes...
Peut être qu'on se croisera sur place, nous y serons de fin septembre à mi octobre!
A bientôt!
Si le bateau est trop cher, il y a des vols charter pour moins cher, mais evidemment partant de paris.
Les tarifs commencent à 200euros l'aller/retour (en te débrouillant sur les dates), sachant que la ville d'arrivée peut être différente de la ville de départ.
Sur le site suivant: http://www.safartours.fr/ tu trouveras les tarifs jusqu'au mois de septembre, mais il faut demander la brochure.
Reste à te renseigner sur les prix paris/nantes...
Peut être qu'on se croisera sur place, nous y serons de fin septembre à mi octobre!
A bientôt!
Salut nyny c'est nonoz
Pour le plan, merci, je viens d'aller sur leur site, et ce n'est vraiment pas chère, il faut juste voir pour les taxes local et internationnal, ce qui peu augmenter le prix du billet considérablement!
Bloqué à Paris jusqu'au 6 octobre, je compte partir vers le 12, alors on n'aura malheureusement pas la chance je se rencontrer, dommage!
N'hésite pas à me raconter tes autres voyages passsés, je suis friand des récits de voyage.
Voilà, bon WE
A+ nonoz
Pour le plan, merci, je viens d'aller sur leur site, et ce n'est vraiment pas chère, il faut juste voir pour les taxes local et internationnal, ce qui peu augmenter le prix du billet considérablement!
Bloqué à Paris jusqu'au 6 octobre, je compte partir vers le 12, alors on n'aura malheureusement pas la chance je se rencontrer, dommage!
N'hésite pas à me raconter tes autres voyages passsés, je suis friand des récits de voyage.
Voilà, bon WE
A+ nonoz
Salut!
Je suis passée par Safar Tour pour prendre les billets, les taxes sont incluses. Les tarifs indiqués sont ce que tu vas payer au final! Par contre, pour te rendre à l'agence, je te conseille d'y aller le plus tôt possible.
As tu des bons plans pour découvrir le désert en 2 ou 3 jours, histoire d'admirer au moins les lever et coucher de soleil...
Bon voyage et bon week end!
ps : l'année dernière on a fait le tour de la crête en scooter, si t'es interesse, fais le moi savoir...
Je suis passée par Safar Tour pour prendre les billets, les taxes sont incluses. Les tarifs indiqués sont ce que tu vas payer au final! Par contre, pour te rendre à l'agence, je te conseille d'y aller le plus tôt possible.
As tu des bons plans pour découvrir le désert en 2 ou 3 jours, histoire d'admirer au moins les lever et coucher de soleil...
Bon voyage et bon week end!
ps : l'année dernière on a fait le tour de la crête en scooter, si t'es interesse, fais le moi savoir...
Le maroc en aout,
je reviens de la même experience que vous allez faire en octobre, si vous voulez on peut echanger, moi je suis aller de essaouira à mirleft ( en atterrissant à marrakech ) je suis restée un mois avec mon sac à dos seule ( enfin jamais vraiment au maroc et je reviens ravie. J'ai voulu longer la coté, car en aout la temperature peut devenir vite etouffante, sur la coté aucun probleme, j'ai même attrapé mal à la gorge . En octobre, vous aurez moins le pb de la chaleur je pense. Les bons plans, je sais pas ce que vous cherhez alors c'est dur. moi aussi, c'etait une premiere voila, bon voyage nelly
je reviens de la même experience que vous allez faire en octobre, si vous voulez on peut echanger, moi je suis aller de essaouira à mirleft ( en atterrissant à marrakech ) je suis restée un mois avec mon sac à dos seule ( enfin jamais vraiment au maroc et je reviens ravie. J'ai voulu longer la coté, car en aout la temperature peut devenir vite etouffante, sur la coté aucun probleme, j'ai même attrapé mal à la gorge . En octobre, vous aurez moins le pb de la chaleur je pense. Les bons plans, je sais pas ce que vous cherhez alors c'est dur. moi aussi, c'etait une premiere voila, bon voyage nelly
Le talent c'est d'avoir envie de faire quelque chose.
complement :
sete tanger, je sais pas si c'est le meilleur plan car distance importante en bateau, je sais seulement que algerisias - tanger pour 1 adulte / 1 enfant et 1 voiture c'est 278 euros pour 2 heures de traversée . tandis que sete - tanger ( 705 ) maintenant il faut tenir compte du trajet pour aller en espagne.
Autres tuyaus, pour voyager pas cher au maroc, c'est bus ou taxi collectif. manger les sandwichs marocains delicieux et complet à 1 euros le plus cher la bas c'est le logement et la voiture ( mais aout est plus cher que octobre ) moi j'avais trouvé un logement pour 10 euros la nuit mais je suis sure qu'on peut trouver moins cher en octobre, par contre coté location je ne sais pas si le prix s'adapte à la saison ( je crois ) goulimine c'est une porte du desert, mais je connais personne. bon voyage encore et profitez un max je vous envie ... combien de temps voulez -vous rester la bas ?
sete tanger, je sais pas si c'est le meilleur plan car distance importante en bateau, je sais seulement que algerisias - tanger pour 1 adulte / 1 enfant et 1 voiture c'est 278 euros pour 2 heures de traversée . tandis que sete - tanger ( 705 ) maintenant il faut tenir compte du trajet pour aller en espagne.
Autres tuyaus, pour voyager pas cher au maroc, c'est bus ou taxi collectif. manger les sandwichs marocains delicieux et complet à 1 euros le plus cher la bas c'est le logement et la voiture ( mais aout est plus cher que octobre ) moi j'avais trouvé un logement pour 10 euros la nuit mais je suis sure qu'on peut trouver moins cher en octobre, par contre coté location je ne sais pas si le prix s'adapte à la saison ( je crois ) goulimine c'est une porte du desert, mais je connais personne. bon voyage encore et profitez un max je vous envie ... combien de temps voulez -vous rester la bas ?
Le talent c'est d'avoir envie de faire quelque chose.
😉 Salut
Prés de marrackech 70 km il y'a Ouzoud sur la route d'Azilal
Pour quelques images allez sur http://membres.lycos.fr/mellal/ouzoud.htm
Bon voyage😉 Ygrec
Bon voyage😉 Ygrec
Bonjour,
je suis nouvelle sur ce site concernant votre message je peux vous avoir des bon plan pour les portes du désert si vous êtes intérressé d'être accompagné d'un guide car mon peti ami est guide et qualifié donc ce genre de circuit c'est son domaine
j'attends de vos nouvelles si vous souhaitez des informations supplémentaires
coralie
bonjour je suis preneur pour toutes les informations car je suis a agadir du 26/10/06 pour 1 semaine dit moi les bons plans si tu connais et tarif si tu le sait que puije faire toute la semaine je ne vais pas rester a l'hotel toute la semaine j'ai envie de bouger merci d'avance pour tous les bons tuyaux gilles
choum70
je me rend a agadir le 26 octobre pour 1 semaine j'ai peur de m"ennuyer donner moi des visites a faire car j'atterit a agadir direct l'hotel aprés et je voudrais passer une semaine sympa quelle ville a visiter depuis agadir et quel tarif a peut pres qui peut me faire un planing de la semainemerci gilles
choum70
Bonjour j'ai bien reçu ton message moi je ne suis pas à côté de lui car je suis en France et lui au maroc si tu es intérressé donne moi un prix approximatif de la semaine que tu voudrais passer afin que je lui donne plus d'informations pour qu'il puisse établir un programme !
quel genre de visite voudrais tu faire e et où souhaite tu dormir si ce n'est pa à l'hôtel?
J'attend ta réponse le plus rapidement possible pour te transmettre les renseignement demandé?
A bientôt coralie
A bientôt coralie
coralie
bonjour, nous partons debut octobre pour le maroc en camping car et si vous voulez voir les dunes et le desert, nous vous conseillons hassilabied a cote de Merzouga, ou vous serez tres bien acceuilli chez brahim a l'ocean des dunes, nous vous souhaitons un bon voyage et nous esperons vous y rencontrer.
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Hi there,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights) - Aït Ben Haddou (1 night) - Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days) - M'hamid (1 night) - Erg Chigaga (1 night) - 4 nights to slot in - Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question: For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Thanks for your help!
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights) - Aït Ben Haddou (1 night) - Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days) - M'hamid (1 night) - Erg Chigaga (1 night) - 4 nights to slot in - Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question: For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available. What do you recommend? Book ahead or not? Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me. Roberto
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available. What do you recommend? Book ahead or not? Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me. Roberto
Hello to all Morocco lovers,
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
hi there,
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
Hi
I’d like to know if the road between Msemrir and Tamttatouchte is doable with a standard car (Dacia Logan).
Thanks a lot
hi,
I’m looking for a country to visit for 10 days in February.
What do you recommend for a trip with some sunshine, hiking, and sightseeing?
Thanks for your help
Thanks for your help
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
Hi there,
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
Hi there!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
hi, I just wanted to know the exchange rate for euros in Tunisia, thanks
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
Hi there,
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there, 🙂
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
Based on your experiences, do you have a professional to recommend?
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I'm looking for a taxi from Dakhla airport to downtown Dakhla.
If you know a contact ?????
Hi there,
I’m looking for info about driving a vehicle in Tunisia.
Is it complicated?
Do I need an international driver’s permit?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
It's all in the title.
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.