Dead Vlei, plusieurs siecles de secheresse, un paysage unique au monde. Un site extremement fragile. Si demain les milliers de touristes qui debarquent au Vlei et commencent a escalader les arbres, pour faire des photos, "regarde comme je suis beau!", que restera t il ? Les branches sont fragiles, les racines et le sol le sont tout autant. Un adulte pese entre 70 et 80 kilos. Y a pas photo.
Je n'ai pas d'idee du nombre de touristes qui passent au vlei, mais vu la taille du camping de Sesriem, ca doit taper dans les 30k.
Si ces photos vous choquent, quelle que soit la bonne volonte et finalement l'innocence de ces deux couillons, un email de protestations pour que ces photos soient retirees, afin d'eviter qu'elles ne fassent des emules. La page contact du site est ici
http://www.afrikatrip.com/...Contact-2056124.html
De mon cote, j'attends 72 heures, le temps d'etre capable de faire un email tout en rondeur,
Pour que tout ceux qui viendront apres nous puissent encore s'emerveiller,
Alex
bonjour caml
à deux pas de là dans le Naukluft Park des sociétés minières étrangères sont en train de faire de la prospection pour rechercher de l'uranium en vue de son exploitation et celà ne vous choque pas. il me semble que c'est bien plus nocif pour l'environnement que deux touristes qui grimpent aux arbres après tout si les humains ont décidé de remonter dans les arbres...
et dans la bande de caprivi :prospection à tout va aussi.
et le massacre des phoques à fourrure du cap à cape cross.
il y a hélas des dangers bien plus grands pour la Namibie que ces deux touristes.
n'en déplaise aux bien pensants.
bonne journée
franck
Bien d' accord pour trouver ces attitudes assez débiles et condamnables . Mais j' espère qu' elles restent exceptionnelles . Lorsque nous y sommes passés , un matin d' avril dernier , les quelques autres touristes présents sur place ne se comportaient pas ainsi . Il vaudrait peut-être mieux titrer sur le "comportement de certains touristes" inconscients .
Quant à la prospection minière elle n' est pas a priori un scandale en soi , à condition de préserver certains sites . La Namibie est aussi un pays , presque désert mais avec des habitants de + en + nombreux et souvent assez pauvres . On ne peut pas mettre l' ensemble du pays sous une cloche et lui interdire tout développement économique .
je comprends votre indignation, même si comme vous le soulignez, ce comportement relève plus de la bêtise (joli euphémisme) que d'une volonté affichée de détruire. Les "arbres" pétrifiés de Sossusvlei sont des trésors. L'émerveillement qu'ils suscitent devrait induire le respect, et non une joyeuse régression.😕 On devrait employer plus souvent "couillon", : "espèce de couillon, va !" 😎 Jolie légende pour les 2 clichés !
Je ne sais pas si la censure est une réponse efficace. Mais essayer de sensibiliser les voyageurs, sur un site de...voyages, me parait un bon début 🙂. J'ai toujours pensé que la bêtise et l'irrespect se soignaient par l'accès à l'information et à la réflexion ; et je revendique ce côté optimiste voir utopiste !
Bon courage, caml, l'indignation est un bon carburant !
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
Bonjour,
Avis partagé. Il faut encore et encore se battre pour le respect: respect des lieux et des gens que l'on visite.
C'est dur, dans une société où la "mise en scène" de soi est mise en avant et peut commencer par des photos de ce genre. Le pire étant que ce type de comportement, encore minoritaire, sera malgré tout de plus en plus courant au vu du formidable dèveloppement des migrations touristiques. Chacun a probablement entendu parler des récents comportements d'histrions qui se sont fait photographier nu(e)s ou jouant au golf au sommet d'Ayers Rock qui est en outre un symbole religieux pour les aborigènes.
Pour répondre à Franck, je pense que l'exploitation du Naukluft ou de la bande de Caprivi, si négative qu'elles puissent être pour ces deux régions, n'atténuent en rien le comportement irrespectueux de ces touristes et ne doit pas empêcher de le condamner.
TANGUE
Bonjour!
je comprends ce que vous avancez mais qu'est ce qu'on peut faire si les autorités sur place ne voient pas les choses de la même façon que vous?quoi qu'il en soit votre geste est comprehensible!
Merci et bonne journée
J'ai eu l'impression inverse. J'ai peu rencontré de gens aussi attachés à leur terre et aux éléments qui la composent. j'en ai gardé une sorte de leçon personnelle, comprenant en comparaison le prix que nous avions payé pour accéder à notre mode de vie.
Sossusvlei est un site vaste, et la Namibie n'est pas un pays qui place un policier derrière chaque touriste ; cette liberté donnée est d'ailleurs à la base de l'émerveillement que provoque ce pays.
Il serait couillon que par la conduite de gentils couillons, ces sites d'une beauté incomparable soient quadrillés par des uniformes revêches. Le recours à la matraque🤪, c'est un peu trop dans l'air du temps. Nous avons déjà exporté un peu trop de "couillonades" en Afrique. Il est peut-être temps de s'imprégner un peu plus de sagesse à l'africaine.
Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
@CNOMADISANT: Ne vous en deplaise, je ne suis pas un bien pensant. Je ne crois pas que le cite de Dead Vlei soit menace par l'industrie miniere, pour l'instant. La pauvrete est une menace bien plus grande encore, car au bout du compte, elle empeche l'etat de maintenir/proteger de tels sites. le developpement durable est une approche tres difficile dans des pays comme la Namibie, ou les ressources sont limitees. Avec le peu de moyens dont ils disposent, les namibiens sont toutefois parvenu a faire des choses vraiment positives pour que les touristes puissent decouvrir les merveilles de leur pays. Je suis certain qu'ils trouveront un mode de developpement adequat. Soit dit en passant, si les europeens peuvent avoir le luxe de ne pas construire de barrage, par exemple, pour les Namibiens qui habitent loin des centres urbains, il peut s'agir d'une question de vie ou de mort.
Le site de Dead Vlei est une cathedrale, une merveille a nul autre egal. Que penseriez vous de deux touristes en train de faire les acrobates, dans le musee du Louvre, agrippes au cadre de la joconde ? Ou bien de deux pignoufs qui larguent des patacaisses dans Notre Dame pour tester l'echo et diffusent le tout sur YouTube ?? Doit on fermer sa gueule parceque la France creuse des tunnels dans les pyrenees ? Votre logique m'echappe.
Massacre des phoques a Cape Cross... En autant que je sache, l'abattage est controle. Cela ne fait plaisir a personne de voir des animaux abattus, mais pour autant, la ressource ne me semble pas en danger. En tout cas pas a cause de la chasse. La surpeche pour le surimi, on pourra toujours en parler, les pecheurs bretons au large de Madagascar qui ecume la mer avec des filets de plusieurs km, on peut toujours en causer aussi.
Mais bref, je m'egare. fin de @CNOMADISANT
Comme JeanMichel54, TANGUE (tres bon en carry ca!), Colybri, c'est plutot l'absence de respect auquel j'ajouterais cette espece de desinvolture qui confine a la vulgarite. Je ne parle meme pas du fait de trahir la confiance des namibiens. Le jour ou un arbre s'effondrera sous le poids de quelques guignols comme ces deux la, le vlei sera ferme.
@JeanMichel54: tout a fait d'accord, je n'ai vu aucun touriste faire ce genre de choses. Mon titre aurait du etre plus precis.
Au final, mon post n'avait qu'un seul objectif, faire pression sur les proprietaires du site pour que les photos soient retirees. On ne corrigera pas ce qui a ete fait, mais au moins on peut empecher que cela fasse des emules. D'autre part, les gardes des parcs sont plutot sympas et relax, et comme l'indique Colybri, se serait plutot dommage qu'il se transforme en CRS parceque qq uns ont confondu le Vlei avec une zone "bac a sables pour les gamins".
C'est peu dans le cadre du developpement de la Namibie, mais je suis confiant que si a la reception du Camp site, on fait une copie de ces deux photos, avec une legende "DON'T DO THIS !", il y a une petite chance pour que les arbres restent encore bien droit pendant qq siecles (tiens, ca me donne une idee ?!).
Je suis absolument desolée de voir le comportement de certaine personne, connaissant personnellement le site je ne vois pas comment on peut oser se comporter de telle maniere. Pauvres gens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Perso j ai fait un email... salé. Le terme de "couillon" me paraissait de bonne aloi.. et j aime bien ce que dit Colibry.
Par contre, je ne sais pas comment, mais faudra peut être aussi penser à enlever les photos du post initial, pour ne pas contribuer à la mauvaise publicité 😎😛
Merci à tous de réagir, ça fait plaisir de savoir qu il y a des gens biens sur cette terre.
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
C'est vrai, ces deux gus n'ont pas l'air très fin et ce serait peut-être mieux de virer ces photos et le lien vers leur site touristico-commercial, mais j'avoue qu'en 2008 mes enfants se sont assis sur une branche à Dead Vlei et ça ne m'a pas effleuré qu'ils perpétrait une catastrophe écologique… Vu l'usure de la dite branche, ce sont sans doute des centaines ou des milliers de fessiers qui se sont posés là.
On ne créé pas une route goudronnée de 60 km juste pour amener des touristes sur un site sans que ça entraîne des conséquences. Le piétinement de milliers de pieds toute l'année sur et autour des dunes en ont sans doute aussi ! Et peut-être pires ? Difficile de parler de sanctuaire dans ces conditions.
Je suppose qu'il y a un certain nombre d'autres vleis dans les immensités inaccessibles du Namib où les touristes que nous sommes tous ne sont pas près de mettre les pieds…
Oui c'est plutot une habitude concernant les "Touristes Asiatiques" que de se faire photographier en situation 🙂🙂
là je trouve que cela n'apporte rien à la beauté des dunes !!😠 qui sont assez mal cadrées 🙂
et au pire cela n'apporte rien aux 2 zigotos non plus si cela n'est de passer pour de gros C..
- mais ils semblent jeunes et leurs visions du monde environnant necessite une élévation........
Bref pour dire que c'est assez déplorable, mais que l'ouverture a l'industrie du tourisme apporte des "bienfaits" et des dégradations ...
c'est comme cela ...;
Dans 10ans peut être le pan de DV et les 2 arbres restant seront grillagés et on l'approchera par groupe de 10 maxi-pour un temps de visite minutée-photos au flash interdite-et après paiement d'une taxe pour le reboisement de la zone..........😇
Bon non allez là je déconne vraiment.....
Serieux y a t'il un modo sur VF pour virer ces 2 horreurs - les photos hein on est d'accord 🙂
Ok, pour les photos, quoique je n'en vois pas vraiment la raison. Les liens restent par contre, sans quoi le post n'a plus de sens.
qu'ils perpétrait une catastrophe écologique…
c'est sur, a mettre des enfants en parallele avec une catastrophe ecologique, l'argumentation devient autrement plus facile. Mais est-ce bien le probleme ?
On ne créé pas une route goudronnée de 60 km juste pour amener des touristes sur un site sans que ça entraîne des conséquences. Le piétinement de milliers de pieds toute l'année sur et autour des dunes en ont sans doute aussi ! Et peut-être pires ? Difficile de parler de sanctuaire dans ces conditions.
C'est vrai ca, c'est bien fait pour les Namibiens. Y z'avaient kapa mettre une route. La notion de sanctuaire est autant une problematique de conservation, que d'attitude de ceux qui s'y rendent. Je comprends pourquoi je choisi de partir vers Hartmann pour mon prochain voyage.
Je suppose qu'il y a un certain nombre d'autres vleis dans les immensités inaccessibles du Namib où les touristes que nous sommes tous ne sont pas près de mettre les pieds…
Beaucoup de suppositions, speculations dans cet email, mais franchement rien de concret. A part un quelque peu desinvolte "mouais... de ma fenetre moi, ca va". Le gouvernement Namibien interdit la traversee du Namib, en partie pour des raisons de conservation (l'autre etant la securite). Ils ne sont pas dupes, ils n'ont juste pas un rond. Mais on peut qd meme traverser le Namib, avec des conditions draconiennes de deplacement cela va de soit.
Dans la grande perspective du développement durable en Afrique, il y a certainement d'autres chats a fouetter, je suis d'accord. Dans celle de Sesriem et Dead Vlei, pas sur. Vous pouvez faire le raisonnement commode "Mouais...", mais il ne resiste pas a l'epreuve des faits. Les sites Naturels ou la concentration de touristes "indisciplines" est forte sont endommages ou bien a acces resteint. Et c'est tout le probleme de ce type de dommages, a l'echelle de l'individu, qui a paye le droit d'entree et donc s'imagine qu'il peut faire comme a la maison, l'impact negligeable. Sur 10 ans, 20 ans ont en reparlera.
Finalement, vous qui avez la chance d'avoir un boulot qui vous permette de partir vers de magnifiques destinations, c'est quoi votre responsabilite?
Loin de moi l idée d'ajouter de la contradiction à la contradiction, mais tu n es pas beaucoup plus concret que le "Mouai.." que tu critiques.
Moi qui suis un pragmatique j'aurais essayé de suggérer quelques éléments de réponses à
Mais est-ce bien le probleme ?
il y a certainement d'autres chats a fouetter
Et je n ose pas croire que tu sois naif quand tu dis
Le gouvernement Namibien interdit la traversee du Namib pour la securite...
Je sais que tu sais que tu parles de la sécurité de leurs mines (diamants et autres..)
Et tu vois, juste pour me crontredire moi-même 😕, j'aime bien que tu poses la question sans réponse...
c'est quoi votre responsabilite?
à chacun de répondre à son petit niveau...D'où mon "Base Line" : se gase gase matlakala...
Je comprends pourquoi je choisi de partir vers Hartmann pour mon prochain voyage.
D'accord avec toi. Mais faut le dire à personne.
Si ça se trouve, on s y croisera...😉, je serai peut être accompagné de quelqu un avec qui tu auras plaisir à débattre... !
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
J'en reste baba… Dois-je prendre ce message comme une agression personnelle ?
Je rentre de Marienfluss. Que sais-tu de notre comportement là-bas ?
Il me semble qu'un voyage à Hartmann est en contradiction totale avec ton raisonnement. Pour n'avoir pas d'impact, il faut rester chez soi !
Je viens de vérifier sur Google Earth, des vlei, il y en a effectivement d'autres. Sans route goudronnée.
En meme temps, le fait de prendre l avion, la moto, le 4x4 pour voyager dans un pays aussi lointain emet des quantités de CO2 si immenses qu il est peut etre moins déplorable pour l'environnement et le patrimoine mondial de poser stupidemnt ses fesses sur un arbre que de voyager loin en respectant ces dignes végétaux. Bon bien sur, quand on fait les deux comme eux : on prend l avion et on pose les fesses, la c est le peloton d execution...
Et puis 1 acte couillon, malheureusement on en a tous fait, il est bien évidemment tristouille d en faire la publicité, mais "que celui qui n a jamais peché jette la première pierre..." comme dirait l autre.
Bref loin de moi, l idée d excuser tout cela, mais plutot que s ériger en procureur, il vaut peut etre mieux faire de la pédagogie, qui peut prétendre ne pas en avoir besoin ? Bref denoncer l acte mais pas les gens et ne pas prendre pour des couillons, 2 gars qui ont fait un acte couillon. Ca me parait assez différent.
Cordialement
PS : des touristes qui font des conneries dans les cathedrales, a Paris ou a Rome, on en voit pas mal. Des gens qui degueulassent des beaux sites, on en voit partout meme en Afrique (ah, la sagesse africaine n est plus ce qu elle était). Ne pas non plus pratiquer l auto flagellation permanente, sport de predilection en France : ces touristes ne sont significatifs que d eux memes et illustratifs de tout ce que le developpement economique et le tourisme produit forcéemnt partout.
Agression personelle ? surement pas. Mais moi aussi, j'avais envie de faire des generalites, d'etre paresseux. Ca fait pas avancer le smilblick, mais au moins, comment dire, cela donne une forme agreable de confort intellectuel. Comme une grosse sieste un dimanche apres-midi. Je recapitule: d'un simple post, limite a l'acte stupide de deux touristes francais, pierre77N me donne un "mouais" cafe du commerce, ou il met dans la balance ces enfants, et une possible catastrophe ecologique. Puis, offusque, on en rajoute une couche, "Pour ne pas avoir d'impact, il faut rester chez soit" et enfin, cerise sur le gateau, j'ai pris google earth, des vleis il y en a d'autres.
Au mieux, ca s'appelle un hors sujet.
Tres sincerement, je prefere un "j'en ai rien a faire de ton post, c'est au gouvernement Namibien de discipliner ses touristes". Meme si je ne suis pas d'accord, la logique est implacable, efficace, et pour le coup, resiste amplement aux faits, bien plus encore que mon opinion, lors du tout premier post. Le gouvernement Namibien, en effet, finira par prendre des mesures.
Procureur ? Certainement pas. On peut avoir sa propre opinion, mais par contre, on ne doit pas choisir les faits qui nous arrangent pour l'etayer.
Relisez ce que j'ai mis dans le premier post, et dites moi quel est le mot que vous ne comprenez pas ? Le sujet est limite, je ne cherche pas a interroger un politique de developpement durable, ni a donner des lecons. Je dis que via le BDE, la junior entreprise, ou l'assos des anciens eleves, ces photos ont fait le tour, et que parmi ces etudiants, futurs cadres qui auront un pouvoir d'achat suffisant pour aller a Dead Vlei, je ne suis pas a l'aise face a l'idee d'une PORTION d'entre eux "eh les gars, si on allait faire un tour en Namibie, ca avait l'air sympa les photos de Roro et Lolo assis sur les braches au milieu du desert" "Aaaah ouaaaais, trop cool, c'est de la balle ca !"
@Francky4 : Que vous dire ? Si vous etes reellement interesse par la problematique de developpement durable, il y a une foule de ressources sur le Web, pour faire peu ou beaucoup lors de vos vacances. Si vous regardez la portee de ce post, je n'en ai pas devie d'un centimetre. Le faire dans ce cadre n'aurait eu aucun sens. C'est justement parce que c'est un forum de voyage qu'il m'a semble le meilleur endroit pour mettre une note a ce sujet, sans plus, noye dans la masse, legitime, de nos souhaits a passer un bon moment a l'autre bout du monde.
Dans un monde ou il devient de plus en plus facile de voyager, ou des etudiants passent les premieres semaines de Janvier a se murger sur des plages de Thailande et ou d'autres prennent courageusement le taureau par les cornes et passent plusieurs mois dans une ONG, quelle est l'action de ceux, tous les autres, qui constitue la majorite des touristes ? Que doivent-ils ecouter ? Doit-on leur demander de passer x% de leur temps dans une ONG ? Je n'ai pas de reponse. Je pense qu'il n'y tout simplement pas de relais accessible, rapide, ou l'information est utile a ce type de public, et s'insere facilement dans le processus de preparation d'un voyage en famille.
Une personne sur un forum qui conseille a une autre d'amener des bonbons et des vetements aux Himbas, et cette derniere de constater "c'est une tres bonne idee". Ces deux personnes, sont elles stupides ou mal informees ? Ont elles fait preuve de paresse intellectuelle ? A en juger par le nombre d'enfants qui mendient des bonbons entre Opuwo et Epupa, "Give me sweets" j'ai en tout cas l'impression que je sous-estime le nombre de touriste mal renseignes. Mais cela n'enleve rien au fait qu'elles souhaitaient bien faire.
Au final, peut etre qu'une solution est simplement de demander aux moderateurs du site d'avoir un sticky-post avec un titre comme "tourisme responsable", ou chacun contriburait, aporterait son experience pour qu'une reponse aux deux exemples que j'ai indique (Dead Vlei/Himbas) soit correctement mis en place. Pour ceux cherchant a aller plus loin, il sera aussi possible d'ajouter une section avec des liens vers des ONG. Apres tout, faire un detour de qq heures pour apporter des consommables a une ecole, c'est aussi dans le domaine du possible.
Des volontaires pour contribuer a ce post ? Francky4? pierre77N ?
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
