Obtenir le passeport américain
by Betislbn
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour ,
J'ai actuellement 17ans est j'ai envie de quitter la france pour aller vivre au USA. Je ne sais encore que faire apres ma majorite : sois je fait mes etudes de finance ici en france ou sois je tent ma chance pour un visa d'etudes. J'aimerais avoirs des avis pour savoir comment obtenir le passeport americains. Sachant que 5 de mes tantes et oncles possedent le passeport americain. Donc là-bas j'aurais du soutien et ma grand mere le possedent egalement.
Ma question est avec cette situation pourrais je l'obtenir plus facilement , est ce que ma grand mere peut me le transmettre sans passer par ma mere ?
Merci.
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Ma mere est tres fier du passeport francais , ma grand mere lui a demander mais elle a refusée , je sais qu'elle navait rien a perdre mais bon. Elle ne l'a pas et c'est dommage.
oui, effectivement... c'est vraiment dommage car, selon l'article 349 de la loi de l'immigration et de la nationalité, ta mère a délibérément refusé la nationalité américaine, et par conséquent sa filiation aussi...
Par contre, si quand tu es né, ta mère était encore américaine (si elle l'a ét�� un jour) il y a une petite chance pour que tu puisses obtenir la nationalité américaine...
Malheureusement et contrairement à certains pays européens, le fait d'avoir un grand parent américain (filiation verticale 2ème degré) n'est pas une condition sine qua non pour recouvrir la nationalité américaine.
Il ne te reste plus qu'à acquérir la nationalité américaine par naturalisation...
oui, effectivement... c'est vraiment dommage car, selon l'article 349 de la loi de l'immigration et de la nationalité, ta mère a délibérément refusé la nationalité américaine, et par conséquent sa filiation aussi...
Par contre, si quand tu es né, ta mère était encore américaine (si elle l'a ét�� un jour) il y a une petite chance pour que tu puisses obtenir la nationalité américaine...
Malheureusement et contrairement à certains pays européens, le fait d'avoir un grand parent américain (filiation verticale 2ème degré) n'est pas une condition sine qua non pour recouvrir la nationalité américaine.
Il ne te reste plus qu'à acquérir la nationalité américaine par naturalisation...
Ma mere est tres fier du passeport francais , ma grand mere lui a demander mais elle a refusée , je sais qu'elle navait rien a perdre mais bon. Elle ne l'a pas et c'est dommage.
Le fait de ne pas avoir de passeport américain ne veut pas dire qu'elle n'est pas américaine.
Il faudrait que tu contactes l'ambassade pour voir si tu as eu la citoyenneté à ta naissance, via ta mère.
Le fait de ne pas avoir de passeport américain ne veut pas dire qu'elle n'est pas américaine.
Il faudrait que tu contactes l'ambassade pour voir si tu as eu la citoyenneté à ta naissance, via ta mère.
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Donc ça règle la question 😉
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Bonjour Ahmad,
J'ai souvenir d'une jeune fille de 16 ans d'origine vietnamienne, réfugiée en France, qui souhaitait aller vivre auprès de sa tante vivant aux Etats-Unis, d'origine également vietnamienne mais naturalisée américaine.
Elle avait une possibilité d'y parvenir : par un système d'adoption. La législation US permettait à la tante d'adopter sa nièce, selon un système juridique à peu près équivalent à celui de l'adoption simple en France. Cela date d'une vingtaine d'années, mais... peut-être est-ce une piste à exploiter ?
Autre point : il me semble que a nationalité française ne devrait pas t'empêcher de faire tes études aux US. Le fait d'avoir de la famille naturalisée US devrait facilites les autorisations, non ? (Bon, oui, ok ... je ne m'y connais pas en visa études !) Cordialement, Murielle
J'ai souvenir d'une jeune fille de 16 ans d'origine vietnamienne, réfugiée en France, qui souhaitait aller vivre auprès de sa tante vivant aux Etats-Unis, d'origine également vietnamienne mais naturalisée américaine.
Elle avait une possibilité d'y parvenir : par un système d'adoption. La législation US permettait à la tante d'adopter sa nièce, selon un système juridique à peu près équivalent à celui de l'adoption simple en France. Cela date d'une vingtaine d'années, mais... peut-être est-ce une piste à exploiter ?
Autre point : il me semble que a nationalité française ne devrait pas t'empêcher de faire tes études aux US. Le fait d'avoir de la famille naturalisée US devrait facilites les autorisations, non ? (Bon, oui, ok ... je ne m'y connais pas en visa études !) Cordialement, Murielle
... là-bas si j'y suis...
Ne pas avoir la citoyenneté n'est pas un frein aux études aux États-Unis, c'est même le cadet des soucis...
L'obstacle majeur est généralement l'argent (et évidemment, l'admission dans un établissement d'enseignement).
Obtenir un visa d'étudiant n'est qu'une formalité pour la majorité des gens qui ont réglé le problème de fric et d'admission.
L'obstacle majeur est généralement l'argent (et évidemment, l'admission dans un établissement d'enseignement).
Obtenir un visa d'étudiant n'est qu'une formalité pour la majorité des gens qui ont réglé le problème de fric et d'admission.
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Tout à fait. Tu peux aller faire tes études là bas sans problème. Par contre américain ou non, il va falloir les payer, et c'est pas donné. Au Canada tu peux faire une demande de parrainage ou de regroupement familial (en gros en ayant de la famille canadienne, tu peux déposer une demande et ta grand mère peut te parrainer pour que tu la rejoigne par exemple). Il doit très certainement y avoir un schéma similaire aux USA.
SI tu veux partir rapidement, fais toi accepter dans une université US, obtient un visa d'études et une fois sur place entame une demande de naturalisation, via ta famille (si c'est faisable).
J'ai écrit un petit guide d'observation des aurores boréales, basé sur mes propres expériences: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9872650;#9872650
donc ta mere n'a pas ete sponsorisee par sa soeur (pour une green card, qui après 5 ans peut demander un passeport).
donc tu n'a pas droit au passeport americain par cette voix la, ni de green card.
tes oncles, tantes, cousins, grand-mere ne peuvent pas te sponsoriser pour une green card.
comme le dissent les autres: tu peux venir aux US pour etudier: prevois des $$ ou si tu as la chance d'avoir une bourse (je n'en sais pas plus), c'est parfait. après ton visa etudiant, tu peux obtenir un OPT (autorisation de travail/stage pour 18 mois); et après l'OPT si une boite veut t'embaucher, elle peut le faire via un visa de travail. ou alors entre temps tu t'es mariee a un(e) americain(e) et la tu auras une green card par mariage et après 3 ans, tu peux demander le passeport (devenir US citizen)
comme le dissent les autres: tu peux venir aux US pour etudier: prevois des $$ ou si tu as la chance d'avoir une bourse (je n'en sais pas plus), c'est parfait. après ton visa etudiant, tu peux obtenir un OPT (autorisation de travail/stage pour 18 mois); et après l'OPT si une boite veut t'embaucher, elle peut le faire via un visa de travail. ou alors entre temps tu t'es mariee a un(e) americain(e) et la tu auras une green card par mariage et après 3 ans, tu peux demander le passeport (devenir US citizen)
"Le monde est un livre et ceux qui ne voyagent pas n'en lisent qu'une page." (Saint Augustin)
Un poil hors sujet, mais pas tant que cela : si tu devais réussir à trouver une solution pour avoir la citoyenneté américaine, il y a une chose que tu dois savoir.
En tant qu'Américain, quel que soit le pays dans lequel tu iras t'installer (par exemple retour en France), tu seras imposé fiscalement parlant également par les US.
C'est à savoir et à mettre dans la balance au moment de - potentiellement - demander la nationalité.
En tant qu'Américain, quel que soit le pays dans lequel tu iras t'installer (par exemple retour en France), tu seras imposé fiscalement parlant également par les US.
C'est à savoir et à mettre dans la balance au moment de - potentiellement - demander la nationalité.
Faby
oui et non.
avec la France il y a un 'contrat' avec les US, et tu n'es pas doublement impose (tu dois faire une declaration mais pas paye 2 fois).
contrairement aux americains vivant en Suisse! du coup pas mal d'americains abandonment leur nationalite americaine.
il en est de meme si tu es en Green Card, que tu pars vivre hors des US, et que tu souhaites garder cette GC, tu dois declarer tes taxes aux US (après ca dependra dans quel pays tu vis).
"Le monde est un livre et ceux qui ne voyagent pas n'en lisent qu'une page." (Saint Augustin)
Je ne savais pas que cela dépendait du pays où tu étais installé, merci pour la précision.
Effectivement, je connais qq Américains qui ont entamé le processus pour renoncer à leur nationalité mais cela a un prix 🤪
Faby
oui ca depend s'il y a une convention entre le pays et les USA.
la France en a une, donc pas double imposition, surtout que la France t'en fera payer plus que si tu etais aux US (et les premiers $95,000 -a verifier pour la somme- ne sont pas imposables par les US).
bref, en resume si tu pars vivre en France en etant americain, il y a peu de chance que tu payes qq chose aux US (mais tu dois faire une declaration a l'IRS tous les ans)
"Le monde est un livre et ceux qui ne voyagent pas n'en lisent qu'une page." (Saint Augustin)
Vu que tu as 17 ans tu peux déjà venir étudier en high school (légalement). Vois avec ta grand-mère et tes oncles/tantes si un "high school" près de chez eux est habilité pour recevoir des jeunes. Si ta famille habite certains Etats (NY, CA, TX...) si tu obtiens ton diplôme d'une high school de l'Etat tu es considéré résident de l'Etat pour l'admission aux universités publiques et on t'applique le tarif local pour le "in district community college". Evidemment si tu obtiens un score supersonique à l'ACT (32) ou au SAT (1400/1600) et/ou que tu étudies l'informatique ou les maths tu peux être dispensé de frais dans ces universités.
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Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
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I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
Hello everyone,
We’re a small family from the south of France, with a 2-year-old little boy, and we’re dreaming of starting a new adventure abroad by opening our own business. For now, we haven’t chosen a specific destination yet.
We mainly speak French, with a basic level of Spanish and English, and we’re ready to improve these two languages if needed. We’re looking for a multicultural, safe country with quality healthcare and good schools accessible for our son. We’d also love a pleasant place with a mild climate where life is good.
Our idea is to travel to different countries to explore, compare, and refine our project. We’d be really happy to read your tips, experiences, or anecdotes if you’ve already undertaken a similar project or if you know key points to anticipate.
Thanks in advance for your shares and help—it would really help us move forward with our project! 😄
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Dublin as an au pair in a few weeks.
I’m looking for a reputable language school. It’s so hard to choose! Has anyone already done a language stay in Dublin? Any tips? Thanks so much! :)
Hi everyone, so I’m planning to go study at a community college in the U.S., but the only snag is which one—there are so many options over there! I’ve heard about one in California, Diablo Valley College, and another in Florida, Valencia College. I know both states are super attractive for tourism, but my main criteria are teaching quality and price. I’m open to any advice, comments, or suggestions—thanks in advance! The start of the semester is coming up, and I’m a little nervous...
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Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Hi! I’m looking for an apartment in Malaga from September (2025) until January for my Erasmus exchange, but I’m not finding much, and it seems like there are a lot of scams. Does anyone have any leads or tips? Thanks!^^





