Est ce que des personnes ici de statut réfugié politique ont déjà réussit à retourner dans leur pays d'origine pour voyager ? Si oui, quelles ont été vos démarches ? Merci.
Obtention d'un visa pour des réfugiés qui veulent voyager dans leur pays d'origine?
by Mémélo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonsoir,
Est ce que des personnes ici de statut réfugié politique ont déjà réussit à retourner dans leur pays d'origine pour voyager ? Si oui, quelles ont été vos démarches ? Merci.
Est ce que des personnes ici de statut réfugié politique ont déjà réussit à retourner dans leur pays d'origine pour voyager ? Si oui, quelles ont été vos démarches ? Merci.
salut,
Je trouve ta requête un peu surprenante, je m'explique.
Si la personne est une réfugiée politique, cela signifie qu'elle est en danger dans son pays d'origine, il me semble que ce danger persisterait si elle va y voyager, n'est il pas ?
Oui je comprends que tu te poses cette question par rapport au statut de réfugié.
Mais les réfugiés sont bloqués en France et souhaiteraient parfois retourner voir leur famille qui est resté là-bas. Je pense qu'avec le temps, il y a beaucoup moins de dangers qu'avant même s'il y en a toujours. Donc c'est pour ça que je voudrais savoir s'il y a des personnes qui ont réussi à obtenir un visa pour aller dans leur pays d'origine et si oui comment ?
he he ! mais la notion de refugié politique s'apparente aussi avec réfugié caf ou sécu ou aide sociale.......
eh bien il suffit de dire a la France que vous n'etes plus réfugié politique puisque pas de risques et vous pourrez partir mais sans visa de retour.....
Je n'ai pas dit qu'il n'y avait pas de risques, j'ai dit qu'il y en avait moins, c'est pas pareil.
Notre but d'ailleurs n'est pas de faire un voyage sans retour.
Si vous comprenez mon post et que vous avez des réponses intéressantes, merci de m'en faire part. Sinon merci de vous abstenir d'écrire.
he he ! mais la notion de refugié politique s'apparente aussi avec réfugié caf ou sécu ou aide sociale.......
Tu as l'air de t'y connaître... En tout cas si tu penses que les réfugiés ont plus d'aides que les non réfugiés, c'et que tu ne t'y connais vraiment pas, où alors il y a t'il du racisme derrière tout ça ? Recherche d'abord ce que veut dire le mot réfugié, si tu crois que c'est facile pour ces personnes d'être arraché à leur pays, leurs racines, leurs familles, à cause des génocides, des guerres et des conneries humaines ?? A te lire on a l'impression que tu ne sais pas ce qu'est la galère...
Tu as l'air de t'y connaître... En tout cas si tu penses que les réfugiés ont plus d'aides que les non réfugiés, c'et que tu ne t'y connais vraiment pas, où alors il y a t'il du racisme derrière tout ça ? Recherche d'abord ce que veut dire le mot réfugié, si tu crois que c'est facile pour ces personnes d'être arraché à leur pays, leurs racines, leurs familles, à cause des génocides, des guerres et des conneries humaines ?? A te lire on a l'impression que tu ne sais pas ce qu'est la galère...
Un réfugié politique est une personne qui a été obligée de quitter son pays, craignant d'être persécutée pour ses opinions. Les pays ayant ratifié la Convention de Genève du 28 juillet 1951 doivent un droit d'asile aux réfugiés politiques. On estime aujourd'hui à 165 000 le nombre de réfugiés politiques en France (la moitié sont des Asiatiques).
NOTRE PAYS EST TRADITIONNELLEMENT UNE TERRE D'ASILE.
Le droit d'asile est mentionné dans le préambule de la Constitution :" tout homme persécuté en raison de son action en faveur de la liberté a droit d'asile sur les territoires de la République "
(Article 53.1 de la Constitution de 1958).
L'asile politique est accordé à " toute personne qui, craignant avec raison d'être persécutée du fait de sa race, de sa religion, de sa nationalité, de son appartenance à un certain groupe social ou de ses opinions politiques, se trouve hors du pays dont elle a la nationalité et qui ne peut ou, du fait de cette crainte, ne veut se réclamer de la protection de ce pays. "
Il s'accompagne d'une obligation de réserve de la part du bénéficiaire. Tout réfugié doit s'inscrire auprès de l'OFPRA (Office français de protection des réfugiés et des apatrides) qui statue sur les demandes d'asile politique et qui se montre sévère sur les conditions d'admission sur le territoire. À cette attitude deux raisons principales : la recrudescence du terrorisme ; le nombre important de ceux qui se présentent comme réfugiés pour chercher à contourner les lois limitant l'immigration. L'étranger qui s'est vu reconnaître le statut de réfugié obtient de plein droit, sauf si sa présence constitue une menace pour l'ordre public, une carte de résident de 10 ans renouvelable automatiquement, qui vaut titre de travail.
En cas de refus, il doit quitter le territoire dans un délai d'un mois, sous peine d'un arrêté de reconduite à la frontière ou de poursuites judiciaires pour séjour irrégulier.
L'asile politique est accordé à " toute personne qui, craignant avec raison d'être persécutée du fait de sa race, de sa religion, de sa nationalité, de son appartenance à un certain groupe social ou de ses opinions politiques, se trouve hors du pays dont elle a la nationalité et qui ne peut ou, du fait de cette crainte, ne veut se réclamer de la protection de ce pays. "
Il s'accompagne d'une obligation de réserve de la part du bénéficiaire. Tout réfugié doit s'inscrire auprès de l'OFPRA (Office français de protection des réfugiés et des apatrides) qui statue sur les demandes d'asile politique et qui se montre sévère sur les conditions d'admission sur le territoire. À cette attitude deux raisons principales : la recrudescence du terrorisme ; le nombre important de ceux qui se présentent comme réfugiés pour chercher à contourner les lois limitant l'immigration. L'étranger qui s'est vu reconnaître le statut de réfugié obtient de plein droit, sauf si sa présence constitue une menace pour l'ordre public, une carte de résident de 10 ans renouvelable automatiquement, qui vaut titre de travail.
En cas de refus, il doit quitter le territoire dans un délai d'un mois, sous peine d'un arrêté de reconduite à la frontière ou de poursuites judiciaires pour séjour irrégulier.
Bonsoir,
Est ce que des personnes ici de statut réfugié politique ont déjà réussit à retourner dans leur pays d'origine pour voyager ? Si oui, quelles ont été vos démarches ? Merci.
mdrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
retour a leur risque et peril sauf si le regime a changé.
Que veux tu faire comme demarche???
tu fais des demarches pour un francais pour aller en france????
si la personne a les papiers qui prouvent leur nationalité..... 😏
Si tu expliquais mieux que cela, peut-etre qu'on pourrait t'apporter qques reponses.
Est ce que des personnes ici de statut réfugié politique ont déjà réussit à retourner dans leur pays d'origine pour voyager ? Si oui, quelles ont été vos démarches ? Merci.
mdrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
retour a leur risque et peril sauf si le regime a changé.
Que veux tu faire comme demarche???
tu fais des demarches pour un francais pour aller en france????
si la personne a les papiers qui prouvent leur nationalité..... 😏
Si tu expliquais mieux que cela, peut-etre qu'on pourrait t'apporter qques reponses.
Non ce sont des réfugiés laotiens qui souhaitent demander un visa pour un voyage au Laos.
Bien sûr qu'ils ont une carte de résident en France qui prouve lerur nationalité, ça fait plus de 30 ans qu'ils vivent en France, ce ne sont pas des immigrés.
Ils ont le statut de réfugié reconnu par l'OFPRA.
Sinon j'ai entendu parler de "sauf-conduit" ? Est ce que quelqu'un sait ce que c'est exactement ?
Bien sûr qu'ils ont une carte de résident en France qui prouve lerur nationalité, ça fait plus de 30 ans qu'ils vivent en France, ce ne sont pas des immigrés.
une carte de resident francais n'est pas une cni laotienne, ca n'a aucune valeur pour le laos!
si ces personnes veulent aller au laos, ils ont 2 choix:obtenir la nationalité francaise et y aller en tant que francais et en cachant leur origine laotienne aller au consulat laotien pour faire les demarches necessaires pour faire recouvré leur nationalité laotienne
une carte de resident francais n'est pas une cni laotienne, ca n'a aucune valeur pour le laos!
si ces personnes veulent aller au laos, ils ont 2 choix:obtenir la nationalité francaise et y aller en tant que francais et en cachant leur origine laotienne aller au consulat laotien pour faire les demarches necessaires pour faire recouvré leur nationalité laotienne
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That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks