En juillet dernier, les commerçants d’Otres visés par un ordre d’expulsion devaient quitter les lieux après avoir démonter leurs établissements, qu'en est-il maintenant ?
Des nouvelles fraîches seraient les bienvenues.
Peut-on encore y trouver une guest house sympa où passer quelques jours ?
Mais la question portait sur Otres et non Occhenteal.
A Otres, les expulsions concernent pour l'instant les établissements du bout de plage, sur 1,5Km. Si les commerçants n'ont pas été encore déménagé- ce que je n'ai pas verifié- cela ne devrait pas tarder car un accord avec les autorités a été trouvé.
Quoiqu'il en soit, les commerces installés en début de plage ne sont pour l'heure pas concernés. Donc, Barefoot devrait y trouver son bonheur.Mais courrez y vite, tant qu'il est encore temps.
Quand je pense que j'étais sur cette même plage en novembre 2009 et c'était vraiment très calme et reposant, j'adore trop les cahutes sur la plage, on y mange super bien.
C'est clair, mais d'un autre côté Sihannoukville est trés étendu et je pense qu'il y a de la place pour tous les types de logement ..... et cela ne peut qu'être bénéfique pour la Côte Cambodgienne .....
J'ai l'impression qu'il y a malendu. Sur quelle plage étais -tu en novembre?
L'article que tu lis a été rédigé par mes soins à peu près au même moment. Il s'agit d'Occhenteal et à ce jour cette plage est restée la même que celle que tu vois sur la photo.A savoir elle n'a pas encore été "réquisitionnée " par la Sokha. Mais jusqu'à quand?
salut effectivement le projet est en cours car je bosse dans l'hotellerie et par email je suis en contact depuis 6 mois avec le human manager du sokha de sihanoukville celui qui est ouvert pour un poste de guest relation dans le futur d'occheutal!!!! début 2012 normalement
Merci, Maddy, pour cette note d'espoir.
Je croyais que "l'évacuation" des commerçants et établissements de Otres beach avait pour but un jardin aménagé et non pas une extension massive du Sohka.
Qu'en est-il des îles aux alentours ? Les ont-ils dénaturé par des complexes hoteliers et autres centres commerciaux ? Ont-ils construit ce fameux pont reliant Sihanoukville à Koh Pos ?
En effet, au vu des photos, je me demande si Sihanoukville n'est pas une destination à zapper pour privilégier davantage Kampot et Kep...
Néanmoins, j'y ferai un saut dans 3 semaines et vous donnerai des nouvelles fraîches.
Je répète qu'à ce jour, la plage d'Occhenteal n'a pas changé.
Les travaux que vous voyiez sont en retrait de la plage et tout à fait en bout d'OCCHENTEAL. La preuve Barefoot ne les avaient meme pas remarqué alors que ces photos ont été prises à peu près au moment où il s'y trouvait.
Fin des travaux 2012 ou 2013. 9a laisse de la marge!
C'est la confusion totale en effet 🙂 mais rien de grave, docteur.
J'avais bien compris que le message d'Alan parlait de Occhental et non pas de Otres et la dernière fois que j'ai été à Sihanoukville remonte à...35 ans, quelques temps avant le "glorieux" 17 avril. Etant beaucoup trop jeune pour avoir gardé un souvenir bien précis, c'est ma maman qui va se prendre une claque dans la figure quand elle va retourner sur les plages...
😏 ..... en effet, Lol ..... mais pas grave, et de toute façon aucune raison de ne pas aller à Sihannouk car comme déjà dit c'est tellement étendue que l'on peut tous y trouver son bonheur, et comme dit Maddy Occhenteal dans sa partie première n'est pas affecté ( sinon dans l'érosion de la plage ) et en décembre dernier lorsque j'y étais il fallait vraiment aller au Sokkha pour constater l'avancée de ces travaux .... et Serendipity qui est accolé, ou tout du moins tout au début d'Occhenteal est quand à elle toujours paradisiaque pour y séjourner ..... même si la mer l'a sérieusement grignoté .....
🤪 ..... Mmmmm Maddy le Jasmine est situé à Occhenteal en arrière de la plage sur Mithona Street et on n'a aucune vue sur le Sokha .... tu remontes la rue sur les Golden Lions, et à gauche tu as la petite route défoncée qui descends sur Serendipity beach .... ensuite le promontoire avec quelques guests superbement bien placés, et derrière la plage du Sokha ..... mais pas de Jasmine Hôtel à cet endroit, celui ci est situé plein centre de Occhenteal ..... 😏
On va y arriver ...... 😉
Le meilleur résumé, une bonne carte de Sihanoukville pour mieux visualiser .....
Mmmmm Alan, j'ai rédigé le papier et pris les photos dont tu as fait un copié collé.
Donc on reprend.
Il y le Sokha que l'on connait, et le sokha en construction.
le projet du second second se trouve en bout de plage d'Occhenteal, face à Jasmine. En poursuivant le long de la plage tu arrives à la colline (Queene Hill hotel)qui mène à Otres.
J'ai tracé une flèche sur ta carte près de l'inscription "New Sokha development"
Je profite de votre discutions pour vous demandez ce qu'il en est de Bokor ?
J'ai cru lire ici et la que l'ancien casino a été détruit , que l'on ne peut plus aller sur le site , qu'un groupement (chinois ?) aurait repris le tout pour reconstruire une autre station balnéaire
Salut,
Les photos ci-dessous datent d'il y a 1 an et montrent la contruction d'un complexe hôtelier par le groupe Sokha de l'autre côté de la colline où se situe l'ancienne église, donc à environ 500m de l'ancien casino Français. Sur les plans, il n'est pas prévu la destruction du casino.
Cdt,
j'y étais il y a 1 an, je ne sais comment s'est aujourd'hui, mais la construction de l'hôtel étant à 500m du casino, je ne vois pas pourquoi on ne pourrai plus visiter le Bokor.
Et puis c'est une importante source financière pour les locaux: 25-30 dollars par personne pour la visite qui prend la journée. La route doit être praticable maintenant, mais dommage de zapper le trek de 3h dans la jungle (dur mais sympa, avec baignade dans les cascades...).
😉 ..... au moins tout le monde dorénavant connaitra les emplacements des plages à Sihanoukville .... en fait mon erreur vient des gros travaux que j'ai vu en cours prés du Sokha originel, ce ne serait donc pas une extension de celui ci ..... ?
Je pense que tu as vu cela et qui appartient au Sokha Hotel (d'origine😄). Ces nouveaux bungalows ont été construits sur un lac artificiel, alimenté par un canal d'amenée depuis la plage.
Du coup, le Sokha a réquisitionné cette plage pour sa clientèle et les Khmers ont été relégués à l'autre bout, sur une bande de sable minuscule. Entre les deux, des gardes qui veillent au grain.
Et sur Occhenteal, il y fort à parier que ce sera le même topo.
Comme promis, quelques photos d'Otres Beach pour confirmer les dires de Maddy : Otres Beach reste, à mon avis, la plus belle plage de Sihanoukville et on peut y trouver un hébergement sans problème.
Je vous avouerai que je ne me suis pas beaucoup intéressée aux constructions Sokha et ma foi, Sihanoukville mérite un détour-détente, même si j'ai préféré Kampot et Kep.
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I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning
March 24: Phnom Penh
March 25: Phnom Penh
March 26: Depart for Kampot
March 27: Kampot
March 28: Depart for Battambang
March 29: Battambang
March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap
March 31: Siem Reap
April 1: Siem Reap
April 2: Siem Reap
April 3: Siem Reap
April 4: Siem Reap
April 5: Departure
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta.
21/09: Borobudur
22/09: Prambanan
23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang)
24/09: Bromo
25/09: Kawa Ijen
26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran
27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran
28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk
29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud
02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo
05/10: Komodo cruise
06/10: Komodo cruise
07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo.
08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar
09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore
10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !