Bonjour , nous sommes en préparation de nos vacances au départ nous pensions partir en Asie , nous le ferons plus tard ...
nos amis souhaitent faire le même voyage du coup on va partir ensemble soit l'année prochaine ou au plus trad dans 2 ans
le but étant de faire un autre continent
et ayant 4 semaines de vacances en Aout nous allons nous diriger vers l'Afrique du Sud
Notre famille = 2 adultes la quarantaine passée et 1 ado de 14 ans
Nos passeports SE FABRIQUENT ils ne sont pas encore arrivés ( depuis 4 semaines )
Notre décision est prise nous irons en Afrique du Sud et pas encore possible de réserver sans les passeports :(
On a peur pour le parc Kruger On a essayé de faire la réservation avec déjà presque plus de places sur les camps que nous voulions ... au moment de valider on nous demande le numéro de passeport :( impossible car nos passeports ne sont pas encore arrivés ...
pour la création de compte j'avais mis NOM + PRENOM pour la validation je n'ose pas finaliser
Pouvez vous me dire si je peux changer APRES ?
pour les billets idem on a vu déjà des tarifs sympa avec le site partirou.com mais sans numéro de passeport :
On a peur de réserver ! ( même si carte d'identité demandée ??? ) est il possible de le faire ?
Si dans le parc Kruger il est impossible de reserver nous pensions faire de porte à porte Orpen Gate => Paul Kruger Gate => 152 / 06:05
Quand ils ESTIMENT 6 h Comment rouler dans le parc ? les pauses sont possibles ? est il possible de profiter , de se poser et d' apprecier les paysages ? 6h c'est la course quand même ? VOS AVIS ?
Paul Kruger Gate => Malelane => 74 / 03:00
Malelane => Numbi Gate => 94 / 03:50
Numbi Gate => Crocodile Bridge => 130 / 05:10
Crocodile Bridge => Paul Kruger Gate => 88 Km / 03:30
Pensez vous que c'est possible ? Je sais c'est dommage mais c'est au cas ou nos passeports arrivent tard :( Nous pensions arriver de Paris sur Johannesbourg et nous diriger vers la porte Orpen mais en restant 2 ou 3 jours avant vers le Blyde canyon sur le choix de la voiture avez vous des conseils ? ( roues ? hauteur ? ) où nous arrêter ? Ensuite faire le parc en dormant à l’intérieur si on arrive à réserver vite au pire en le faisant de porte à porte et en dormant à côté ce qui n'est pas extra ;( ... Ensuite descendre au swaziland peut être aller vers st lucia pour terminer à Durban et revenir DURBAN/PARIS Sur la durée 2 semaines glisser à 3 semaines ... Pouvez vous nous aider sur les endroits qu'il faut voir absolument ? Une idée de trajet ? Merci par avance !
Malheureusement😊 pour nos passeports on a fait une déclaration de perte pour en redemander d'autres 😕 = donc on a pas de numéro ( 🏴☠️SUITE a une innondation du bas de la maison il y a quelques années une partie des papiers détruits, et nous n'avions pas refait le passeport ) est ce que je peux mettre la carte d'identité par exemple dans la case n°passeport ? et rechanger après ? est ce important dans la réservation ? il y a une vérification peut être de correspondance à l'entrée du Parc Kruger.
Pour l'avion je note le numéro de carte d'identité ? simplement ? et mon nom de femme Mariée ? si vous me confirmez je vais l'acheter des ce soir :) 😛
est ce que je peux mettre la carte d'identité par exemple dans la case n°passeport ?
Ça ne bloquera pas.
Le mieux est effectivement de mettre ce numéro qui correspond à une pièce que vous possédez réellement.
Vous pourrez ensuite changer en écrivant un mail à sanparks.
J'ai changé plusieurs fois de passeport depuis que je vais en AFS et je n'ai jamais eu de difficultés à l'entrée dans un parc. Il faut montrer sa résa et les passeports sont demandés mais pas pour vérifier le numéro. Juste pour le nom et le calcul du prix d'entrée. (C'est plus cher pour les non Sud africains)
En parlant des frais d'entrée, ne les incluez pas dans votre réservation (conservation fee). Suivant le nombre de nuits que vous passerez dans les parcs sud africain, il sera peut être plus rentable d'acheter un pass famille sur place.
Un calcul à faire quand vous aurez bouclé l'itinéraire.
Pour l'avion je note le numéro de carte d'identité ?
Pour l'avion, il n'y a généralement pas besoin de ce renseignement pour l'achat (facultatif). Vous ne mettez donc rien.
t mon nom de femme Mariée ?
Je ne suis pas mariée alors j'avoue que je n'ai aucune idée du nom qu'il faut indiquer...😊
Le mieux est peut être de regarder le prix du billet sur le site de la compagnie qui vous intéresse. Si le prix est le même, vous achetez via le site de la compagnie en passant un petit coup de fil à leur service clientèle avant !😉
J'ai mis la carte d'identité de mon mari
réservation dans le kruger effectuée :) en attente de confirmation ( ça se passe comment ?)
MOPANI REST CAMP 11/08
OLIFANTS REST CAMP 12/08
TALAMATI BUSHVELD CAMP 13/08
SKUKUZA REST CAMP 14/08
merci attila car au départ j'avais " coché " tout compris et on va gagner car on va aller avant kruger visiter le
parc national de Mapungwabe :) après le kruger le swaziland pour passer ensuite surement à hluluwe et imfolozi reserve
direction saint lucia pour le cap vidal .... et retour Durban => Paris ... reste quelques mois pour finaliser et cibler ... notre voyage étant en Aout on ne va pas descendre au cap ...mais c'est " grossièrement " la base de nos vacances 😉
Si l'avion de retour décolle en fin d'après midi, le mieux est de dormir deux nuits dans l'un des parcs du nord Drakensberg : Royal natal (Thendele)) ou Giant's castle.
comme je suis contente :)
j'ai regardé le site de reservations ... et une place vient de se liberer pour
LOWER SABIE REST CAMP
j'ai donc annulé SKUKUZA ça tombe bien :)
Je ne comprends pas bien l'intérêt de ces 2 jours...🤪
Pourquoi ne pas plutôt aller à Marakele ?
25 aout J21 Thendele Camp à ????? Je cherche une étape pour faire 200km
Généralement, on fait la route en une étape pour après sauter dans l'avion ...
Je sèche donc.😊
Partir directement sur JNB et dormir à Soweto pour une visite le lendemain de ce quartier historique + le musée de l'apartheid et qq chose axé sur l'activité minière ?
j'ai une reservation sur Talamati qui est attaché à Orpen gates
C'est Tamboti qui est attaché à Orpen.
Orpen est notée comme porte d'entrée la plus proche de Talamati pour qui voudrait se rendre au plus vite dans ce camp depuis l'extérieur.
Alors le pourquoi c'est à cause de la distance et du temps voiture , j'ai tous les pouvoirs pour organiser les vacances mais mon mari me demande une seule chose éviter les longues étapes ! 2h30 max en principe voir 3 heures au pire .... j'essai de respecter cette demande ...et il faut s’arrêter assez regulierement
déjà avec celle de 500km , je contourne un peu la règle ! .. j'organise pour que tout le monde soit content et profite des vacances ( et c'est pas facile ) j'ai bien pensé marakele ... mais longue étape... donc voilà ... j'avoue que c'est un soucis ! mais je dois faire avec :( tu peux m'aider à résoudre ce problème ?
7 aout J3 Mapungbwe => Leokwe camp journée sur place - km
8 aout J4 Mapungbwe => Vhembe Wilderness camp journée sur place - km
Pourquoi changer de camp dans ce parc qui est quand même petit .... à part une perte de temps, je vois pas trop l’intérêt surtout que vous restez dans la partie est du parc
Pareil pour le kruger l'année dernière j'ai changé de camp tous les jours, pour mon prochain voyage ce sera 2 jours par camp
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
Rjulie95 pourquoi 2 camps ?
je ne savais pas lequel choisir ... l'avantage pour notre retour :) 😊 on va pouvoir conseiller sur l'un ou l'autre ;) 😛
non j'avoue j'ai effectué les reservations dans kruger avant celles ci ... du coup j'ai adopté le même principe ... 😇
Les camps sont accessibles en voiture normale, mais pas contre le parcours dans le parc est limité, il faut sortir pour aller dans l'autre partie qui est accessible dans sa totalité au voiture standard
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
😛 pas facile mais en même temps on est souple au niveau du temps
du 02/08 au 30/08 ... je vais pouvoir jouer sur 1 nuit avant et après pour avoir les étapes demandées
par mon mari ;)
J'ai donc fait la réservation avec le numéro de carte d'identité,
ayant reçu le passeport depuis j'ai demandé à la centrale des réservations sanparks de mettre à jour avec le numéro officiel , j'ai eu la réponse que ça ne poserai aucun problème :) car tout est payé ( pour eux cela semble être le principal )
la même personne m'a fait la reservation pour le morning walks sur olifants et sunrise drive sur lower sabie n'ayant pas un anglais au top j'utilise la traduction auto sur le site http://www.babelfish.fr/ et pour les réservations et les demandes j'arrive a bien communiquer , J'ai plus que hâte ... reste 4 mois avant le départ ... mais c'est l'attente la plus agréable à vivre ...
Bonjour
pour tes j7 j8, pourquoi ne pas voir du côté de Louis Trichardt? Si la route du nord est encore coupée (je n'en sais rien...), c'est l'accès logique pour le Kruger en venant de Mussina... Et si la ville en elle même n'a pas l'air bien passionnante, le secteur est magnifique, forêt humide, il y a l'air d'avoir des balades géniales à faire...
Anne-Marie
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
Entre le parc de Mapungbwe et la porte dans le nord de Kruger ayant deux jours sans idée j'ai ajouté
en J7 .... l'idée = partir vers 13/14h de Mapungbwe pour arriver avant 18h à l'endroit " trouvé" ( je cherche sur Thohoyandou)
pour être proche le matin de l'entrée du parc kruger
mais au vu des routes se sera certainement la punda maria plutôt que celle tout au nord avec les problèmes d'accès il me semble ? ( pas certaine ? )
en J8 1 nuit Shingwedzi J'espère qu'il n'y aura pas de soucis sur les routes, je vais regarder le retour des récits
des 4 prochains mois pour voir la situation sur place
Thohoyandou semble une bonne idée pour être en début de matinée dans le kruger par punda maria ... sinon as tu une autre idée ?
Une autre question ;) Pour arrivée au swaziland quel poste frontière est le plus facile en arrivant de Graskop ? on sera pour 2 nuits au
Sondzela Backpackers au Mlilwane NP
Entre le parc de Mapungbwe et la porte dans le nord de Kruger ayant deux jours sans idée j'ai ajouté
en J7 .... l'idée = partir vers 13/14h de Mapungbwe pour arriver avant 18h à l'endroit " trouvé" ( je cherche sur Thohoyandou)
pour être proche le matin de l'entrée du parc kruger
mais au vu des routes se sera certainement la punda maria plutôt que celle tout au nord avec les problèmes d'accès il me semble ? ( pas certaine ? )
en J8 1 nuit Shingwedzi J'espère qu'il n'y aura pas de soucis sur les routes, je vais regarder le retour des récits
des 4 prochains mois pour voir la situation sur place
Thohoyandou semble une bonne idée pour être en début de matinée dans le kruger par punda maria ... sinon as tu une autre idée ?
Une autre question ;) Pour arrivée au swaziland quel poste frontière est le plus facile en arrivant de Graskop ? on sera pour 2 nuits au
Sondzela Backpackers au Mlilwane NP
Alors dans mon souvenir, Thohoyandou est une ville super moche mais il pleuvait pas mal quand on y est passé, du coup ça ne donne pas trop envie, j'avais pensé à Louis Trichardt parce que la région est belle...
Pour le coup, ça fait une sacrée étape du Mapungubwe à Thohoyandou, google map me semble super optimiste avec ses 3h35... Bon, ça dépend aussi de l'accès entre Mapungubwe et Mussina, la R572 était coupée en octobre 2013... S'il faut contourner, ça va rallonger pas mal... Enfin, on peut être optimiste, ça pourrait avoir été réparé. Je ne sais pas où on peut trouver ce genre de renseignements sur les routes en travaux/ fermées en Afrique du Sud? Une idée les spécialistes?
Anne-Marie
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
Voilà au bouclage final notre itinéraire avec les modifications de dernières minutes pour coller aux billets d'avion
Donc sur le départ prévu changement à la dernière seconde car plus de 400€ de différence sur les 3 billets si achat 2 jours avant, Etant plus court sur le début du voyage pour ne pas perdre en temps de vacances mon mari a suggérer de rester quelques jours dans la chaleur des Émirats arabes unis (les 3 nuits seront en plus ici ) ... ... Tout est réservé sauf le véhicule ...
Départ 15h44 par train de chez nous Arrivée 21h12 PARIS MONTPARNASSE Nuit PARIS
05/08/14 Paris AÉROPORT CHARLES DE GAULLE départ 11:00 DIRECTION Johannesburg Nuit avion
06/08/14 Arrivée 04:35 Johannesburg => Nuit Bela bela
07/08/14 Mapungbwe => Leokwe camp
08/08/14 Mapungbwe => Leokwe camp
09/08/14 Louis Trichardt
10/08/14 kruger => Shingwedzi
11/08/14 kruger => Mopani rest camp
12/08/14 kruger => Olifants Morning Walk
13/08/14 kruger => Talamati Bushveld camp
14/08/14 kruger => Lower Sabie Morning drive
15/08/14 Graskop
16/08/14 Graskop
17/08/14 Swaziland
18/08/14 Swaziland
19/08/14 Santa lucia
20/08/14 Santa lucia
21/08/14 Hluhluwe => Imfolozi Game Reserve MPILA
22/08/14 Hluhluwe => Imfolozi Game Reserve MPILA
23/08/14 Drakensberg => Thendele RN 530km
24/08/14 Drakensberg => Thendele RN
25/08/14 => Thendele 348km / Johannesburg départ 20:30 vol pour Abu Dhabi nuit Avion
26/08/14 => Arrivée 06:50 nuit abu Dhabi
27/08/14 => nuit abu Dhabi
28/08/14 => nuit abu Dhabi
29/08/14 => journée abu Dhabi et départ le soir 02:10 ( 30/08 )
30/08/14 => Arrivée 07:35 Paris départ 19h08 arrivée 22h30 chez nous
Notre Arrivée étant le matin 04:35 Nous nous posons la question de l'heure d'ouverture des loueurs ?
Oui avec etihad 🙂 au départ nous pensions le faire par Air france en éco ... mais sur les vols et la même tranche de tarifs ciblés cela nous faisait arriver vers 22h sur Johannesburg...
Avec tout le changement ( conduite inversée etc... ) et surtout une arrivée de nuit ... hum... on avait des craintes et puis avec etihad l' heure matinale nous rassure , puis le greffage dernière minute de quelques jours dans la grosse chaleur fait plaisir à mon mari qui avait envie de trouver du Soleil pendant les vacances :) la compagnie Etihad semble un bon compromis
... merci pour l'info on va peut être cibler ce loueur alors ... pour pouvoir prendre la route rapidement des le matin 🙂
Je vais essayer de faire un petit compte rendu à l'arrivée ... (c’était prévu) ... hâte au départ ...
Nous nous posons la question de l'heure d'ouverture des loueurs ?
Généralement, les loueurs internationaux sont ouverts H24.
Il ne faut pas trop compter sur une sortie de l'aéroport avant 06 30. Les formalités peuvent être longues...
Si tu peux réserver des sièges à l'avant de l'appareil, ça permettra de raccourcir cette attente ! Ou alors il faut doubler tout le monde dans les longs couloirs de JNB.
Un conseil : avant de prendre le véhicule, un petit déjeuner à l'Intercontinental qui se situe juste en face de l'aéroport serait parfait pour entamer en douceur ce séjour Sud Africain! ( Le prix des chambres est très élevé mais la nourriture est bon marché.) 😉
quelques jours dans la chaleur des Émirats arabes unis
Pour la location de voiture
je suis passée par le site = locationdevoiture.fr
Location "PREMIUM" avec zero franchise pneu et bris de glace compris pour 20 jours de location +/-450€ pour une voiture simple familiale 5 portes Toyota Corolla
le prestataire sera autoeurope qui va nous revendre une location chez Hertz ,
sur le document de réservation en ligne en demande particulière j'ai noté = PASSAGE DE LA FRONTIERE du SWAZILAND
je viens de recevoir A midi un message = Monsieur ( c'est mon mari qui va conduire en numéro 1 ) je suis en conducteur 2
Suite à votre réservation XXXXX, je vous informe que j'ai fait la demande de passage de frontière vers le Swaziland. Je ne manquerai pas de vous tenir informé dès retour de notre prestataire.
3 heures Après = Monsieur XXX
Suite à votre réservation XXXXX, jle prestataire nous confirme que le passage de frontière vers le Swaziland est autorisé, et sans frais additionnel.
Je suis contente de savoir que je ne vais pas gérer tout ça en arrivant sur place, bien sur au retour je vais vous faire le compte rendu de ce voyage :) ... mais pour la communication avec locationdevoiture j’apprécie ce premier échange :) point positif ... à suivre
J'ai aussi fait la commande de la wildcard en ligne et cette semaine j'ai reçu ce message =
Dear xx xxxxx
SANPARKS has mailed your WILD CARD at Securemail a division of the South African Post Office. This is to notify you of your tracking details which are as follows: Tracking No. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Expected time of delivery is 14 days at your designated office of collection.
Hate de recevoir le petit sésame :) Je ne sais pas si je peux Céder la WILDCARD mais comme jn'en ai plus besoin ... dès Septembre je peux l'offrir ( en priorité a une personne qui m'a aidé à construire mon voyage ... ) la date anniversaire sera en MAI 2015 :)
Non, tu ne peux pas céder la Wild Card, elle est nominative (à l'entrée des parcs on vous demandera une pièce d'identité au nom du détenteur de la carte).
Belle réactivité de ton loueur!
Faites un beau voyage.
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Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations.
Thanks for any feedback on this plan!
Ailleurs 64
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
Hi,
I’m heading to Angola for two weeks starting mid-April and I’d like to rent a car to explore the country, but not a 4x4 to keep my budget in check. I plan to mostly stay in the western part and go as far as the Namibian border. Is it possible to drive in Iona Park without a 4x4, or to get to Kalendula or Piedra Negras? Also, is the Lubango–Huambo–Kuito–Malanje route doable in a city car? Lastly, do gas stations accept Visa?
Thanks for your feedback and tips!
Now that the Kruger part is (almost) wrapped up, I’m looking at the "Cape region" section.
The idea of spending 2 days (well, more like 2 nights and 1.5 days) in the Cederberg is really tempting 😎.
I’ve reread the posts about it—more or less (actually, more less than more)—and I still have quite a few questions:
- Where’s the best area to stay? Initially, I was looking at Kagga Kama, but I’m not sure if it’s worth the cost (or the trip, for that matter), or maybe Mount Ceder? Or somewhere else (without driving 6 or 8 hours from CT 😉)?
The plan is to get there in a sedan (if possible), see some beautiful landscapes, and do one or two hikes (nothing too tough 😛).
- I read that you need a permit to hike there... where do you buy it? (At the entrance, like in Kruger? 🤪)
- Is October a good time for the weather (theoretically...)?