Passage Thaïlande - Malaisie pour visa
by Noemielec
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour,
je compte prendre un billet paris bangkok avec un retour un an plus tard, bangkok paris. Une fois debarquée en thailande, nous voudrions faire le tour de l'asie, et donc rester en thailande peut etre plus de 30jours...la compagnie aerienne nous a dit qu'il fallait quon ait une preuve de sortie du territoire une ticket de bus ou de train (meme si je ne le prends pas parce qu'on est descendu jusqu'au sud sud de la thailande et que nous prendrons peut etre un bus plus petit) parce que sinon ils ne nous delivreront pas de visa...comment puis je reserver un billet de train, ou de bus alors que je suis en france....?comment je pourrais prouver que je sors du territoire, sans preuve ecrite...?est ce que ca va etre la meme chose pour tous les pays en asie..?merci
Le plus simple est d'acheter un vol au départ de Bangkok ou Phuket vers la Malaisie , le Cambodge ou la Birmanie sur air asia .....
thierry3468
Bonjour,
Si tu compte rester plus de 30 jours en thailand prend un visa de la durée de ton séjour, pour justifier de ton départ prend n'importe quel billet d'avion remboursable de la thailand vers un autre pays voisin. Tu ne seras obligé de faire le vol et tu pourras ainsi te faire rembourser. Attention demande le remboursement qu'une fois arrivé en thailand.
mais sije veux le faire par voie terrestre, je n'ai pas envie de prendre un avion....est ce que ca sera pareil dans tous les pays asiatiques...?probleme pour quils me delivrent les visas si je n'ai pas de vol retour assez tot..?
T'es pas obliger de prendre l'avion c'est juste d'avoir un billet qui justifiera l'obtention de ton visa, c'est pour cela qu'il te faut un billet remboursable.
T'es pas obliger de prendre l'avion c'est juste d'avoir un billet qui justifiera l'obtention de ton visa, c'est pour cela qu'il te faut un billet remboursable.
plein de compagnies émettent des billets remboursables comme la thai ou d'autres régulières, il suffit de bien regarder les conditions tarifaire de la compagnie. Sinon tu prend du non remboursable comme par exemple un krabi singapore pour 1300thb soit 29€ sur tiger ou autres!!
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En arrivant en Thailande on ne m'avait rien demandé et pourtant je partais en mode tour du monde. Je repartais mois après de Bangkok. Essaie de voir si tu ne peux pas placer un vol interne quelque part, par exemple après la malaisie ou comptes tu aller ? Pour la Malaisie par contre en passant (par voie terrestre) on m'avait demandé un document de sortie.
Je n'ai jamais acheté un billet juste pour avoir une preuve de sortie et cela m'étonne qu'on peut se faire rembourser intégralement un billet sans aucune raison !
Bonne route Francois
En arrivant en Thailande on ne m'avait rien demandé et pourtant je partais en mode tour du monde. Je repartais mois après de Bangkok. Essaie de voir si tu ne peux pas placer un vol interne quelque part, par exemple après la malaisie ou comptes tu aller ? Pour la Malaisie par contre en passant (par voie terrestre) on m'avait demandé un document de sortie.
Je n'ai jamais acheté un billet juste pour avoir une preuve de sortie et cela m'étonne qu'on peut se faire rembourser intégralement un billet sans aucune raison !
Bonne route Francois
et qu'est ce que tu as fourni comme billet de sortie pour la malaisie..?nous on compte aller en indonesie apres...mais on voulait un pue vivre au jour le jour on ne voulait pas prevoir a chaque entrée la date de sortie du pays...
peut etre que tu avais un billet tour du monde?
une compagnie aerienne m'a confirmée que je devais avoir une preuve de sortie du territoire...
Pour la sortie de Malaisie j'ai présenté mon billet d'avion de départ de Thailande 3 mois après. Ils leur faut juste une preuve de sortie. Après j'ai rencontré des personnes qui font une fausse réservation. Tu recois toujours un email avec les détails du vol et bien tu en prends un ancien et tu modifies les données (en prenant des données exactes d'un vol).
Il n'y a pas de contrôle.
C'est en effet vraiment pas pratique toutes cette paperasse quand on veut voyager sans tout programmer !!
Francois ps: tu pars avec quelle compagnie aérienne ?
C'est en effet vraiment pas pratique toutes cette paperasse quand on veut voyager sans tout programmer !!
Francois ps: tu pars avec quelle compagnie aérienne ?
Pour la sortie de Malaisie j'ai présenté mon billet d'avion de départ de Thailande 3 mois après. Ils leur faut juste une preuve de sortie. Après j'ai rencontré des personnes qui font une fausse réservation. Tu recois toujours un email avec les détails du vol et bien tu en prends un ancien et tu modifies les données (en prenant des données exactes d'un vol).
Il n'y a pas de contrôle.
C'est en effet vraiment pas pratique toutes cette paperasse quand on veut voyager sans tout programmer !!
Francois ps: tu pars avec quelle compagnie aérienne ?
Les compagnies ont les moyens de vérifier les fausses réservations ou faux tickets Electronique, je ne me risquerait pas dans cette pratique. La saudi il y a 2 ans a vérifié l’intégralité de mes billets au départ de Rome pour Manille !! Pour le remboursement des billets un exemple avec airfrance: Faites votre demande de remboursement en ligne ! Depuis l´espace "Consulter/modifier vos réservations", vous pouvez procéder en ligne au remboursement de votre billet, à l´exclusion de votre billet prime Flying Blue si :votre billet est remboursable avec ou sans frais, vous avez acheté votre billet depuis plus de 2 jours et moins de 12 mois, vous n´êtes pas en possession de votre carte d´embarquement.ici pour plus de détails
C'est en effet vraiment pas pratique toutes cette paperasse quand on veut voyager sans tout programmer !!
Francois ps: tu pars avec quelle compagnie aérienne ?
Les compagnies ont les moyens de vérifier les fausses réservations ou faux tickets Electronique, je ne me risquerait pas dans cette pratique. La saudi il y a 2 ans a vérifié l’intégralité de mes billets au départ de Rome pour Manille !! Pour le remboursement des billets un exemple avec airfrance: Faites votre demande de remboursement en ligne ! Depuis l´espace "Consulter/modifier vos réservations", vous pouvez procéder en ligne au remboursement de votre billet, à l´exclusion de votre billet prime Flying Blue si :votre billet est remboursable avec ou sans frais, vous avez acheté votre billet depuis plus de 2 jours et moins de 12 mois, vous n´êtes pas en possession de votre carte d´embarquement.ici pour plus de détails
et oui mais moi si je ne repars qu'un an apres, il sera difficile de montrer cette preuve la..je vais attendre les réponses des autre pour voir si le billet est remboursable sous n'importe quel pretexte..on va voir..
je n'ai pas encre mes billets, mais ca sera surement avec etihad ou quatar airways...
Donc tu veux dire que pour le moment tu n'as aucune date de retour ?!
Ca peut être embêtant selon la cie avec qui tu embarques, parfois certaines demandes pas d'autres ! Tu peux essayer de prévoir un vol low cost entre pays d'asie, genre de Malaisie à Indonésie si tu veux aller par là. Ca ne coute pas trop cher mais pas remboursable à ce que je pense. Quand à trouver un billet d'avion qui soit 100 % remboursable je suis sceptique !!
Le plus embêtant en fait c'est pour ton 1er vol, après une fois que tu es sur place pour passer les frontières, c'est beaucoup plus simple car là tu peux présenter n'importe quel document de vol et ca ne sera pas contrôlé (frontière terrestre).
bon courage Francois
Ca peut être embêtant selon la cie avec qui tu embarques, parfois certaines demandes pas d'autres ! Tu peux essayer de prévoir un vol low cost entre pays d'asie, genre de Malaisie à Indonésie si tu veux aller par là. Ca ne coute pas trop cher mais pas remboursable à ce que je pense. Quand à trouver un billet d'avion qui soit 100 % remboursable je suis sceptique !!
Le plus embêtant en fait c'est pour ton 1er vol, après une fois que tu es sur place pour passer les frontières, c'est beaucoup plus simple car là tu peux présenter n'importe quel document de vol et ca ne sera pas contrôlé (frontière terrestre).
bon courage Francois
le billet d'avion qui te sers de preuve de sortie de la thailand ne te sers que pour obtenir ton visas (suivant les consulats ou ambassade) et surtout pour te permettre d'embarquer de France vers la thailand. Pendant un an il faudra que tu jongles avec les pays qui te demanderons pas de preuve de sortie pour obtenir un visas (comme le Laos par exemple) ou ceux qui n'ont pas de visas comme sinagpore ou la malaise qui t'accordent 90 jours. Pour le remboursement des billets il faut en faire la demande en moyenne plusieurs heures avant le vol, en cas de no show c'est pas valable.
Donc tu veux dire que pour le moment tu n'as aucune date de retour ?!
Ca peut être embêtant selon la cie avec qui tu embarques, parfois certaines demandes pas d'autres ! Tu peux essayer de prévoir un vol low cost entre pays d'asie, genre de Malaisie à Indonésie si tu veux aller par là. Ca ne coute pas trop cher mais pas remboursable à ce que je pense. Quand à trouver un billet d'avion qui soit 100 % remboursable je suis sceptique !!
Le plus embêtant en fait c'est pour ton 1er vol, après une fois que tu es sur place pour passer les frontières, c'est beaucoup plus simple car là tu peux présenter n'importe quel document de vol et ca ne sera pas contrôlé (frontière terrestre).
bon courage Francois
Le vol low cost c'est ce que je disais plus haut et le billets peuvent être remboursables évidement. Il suffit de choisir le bon tarif (même air france sait le faire...) Pour les frontières terrestres je confirme ce que tu dis. :)) Sur airasia ou tiger les billets ne sont pas remboursables mais modifiables sans frais ce qui peut être bien quand tu restes 1 an en asie du sud est.
Ca peut être embêtant selon la cie avec qui tu embarques, parfois certaines demandes pas d'autres ! Tu peux essayer de prévoir un vol low cost entre pays d'asie, genre de Malaisie à Indonésie si tu veux aller par là. Ca ne coute pas trop cher mais pas remboursable à ce que je pense. Quand à trouver un billet d'avion qui soit 100 % remboursable je suis sceptique !!
Le plus embêtant en fait c'est pour ton 1er vol, après une fois que tu es sur place pour passer les frontières, c'est beaucoup plus simple car là tu peux présenter n'importe quel document de vol et ca ne sera pas contrôlé (frontière terrestre).
bon courage Francois
Le vol low cost c'est ce que je disais plus haut et le billets peuvent être remboursables évidement. Il suffit de choisir le bon tarif (même air france sait le faire...) Pour les frontières terrestres je confirme ce que tu dis. :)) Sur airasia ou tiger les billets ne sont pas remboursables mais modifiables sans frais ce qui peut être bien quand tu restes 1 an en asie du sud est.
Oui tu peux acheter un billet Air asia par exemple Phuket ou Krabi -> KL dès qu'il y a une promo, auquel cas ça ne coûte presque rien (parfois moins de 20 voire 10 euros)
Si un billet de train suffit, dans ce cas tu achètes billet pour la première gare malaise, ou pour Butterworth par exemple.
J'ai été confronté au même pb l'an dernier, et finalement la compagnie (Oman Air) n'a pas contrôlé. Certaines le font.
Mais une question comme ça.....si tu restes plus de 30 jours EN THAILANDE.....il te faudra de toute manière acheter à l'avance un visa payant !! Non ?
J'ai été confronté au même pb l'an dernier, et finalement la compagnie (Oman Air) n'a pas contrôlé. Certaines le font.
Mais une question comme ça.....si tu restes plus de 30 jours EN THAILANDE.....il te faudra de toute manière acheter à l'avance un visa payant !! Non ?
Salut
Je me suis retrouvée avec la même question que toi et des amis qui ont vécu plusieurs mois en Thaïlande m'ont donné le lien de ce site que je conseille à quiconque à besoin d 'un billet de bus pour quitter la Thaïlande vers la Malaisie.
http://www.easibook.com/Booking_result.aspx?grc=5-0-13-91-0&from=Penang&fromplace=Any&to=Thailand&toplace=Hatyai&coach_company=All+Companies
J'espère que cela sera un peu plus simple pour toi!
Belle journée
Je me suis retrouvée avec la même question que toi et des amis qui ont vécu plusieurs mois en Thaïlande m'ont donné le lien de ce site que je conseille à quiconque à besoin d 'un billet de bus pour quitter la Thaïlande vers la Malaisie.
http://www.easibook.com/Booking_result.aspx?grc=5-0-13-91-0&from=Penang&fromplace=Any&to=Thailand&toplace=Hatyai&coach_company=All+Companies
J'espère que cela sera un peu plus simple pour toi!
Belle journée
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There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.






