Petit lait vendu au Maroc
by Marium
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour a tous.pouvez vous me dire si le "petit lait" vendu sur les routes du maroc est le colostrum de la vache?merci
marium
Sais-tu ce que c'est le colostrum chez les mammifères (y compris la femme) ??? C'est un concentré qui apparait à la naissance et qui contient plein d'anticorps, vitamines, etc.... très nutritif pour le nouveau-né ! Mais en très petite quantité ! Comment veux-tu que cela puisse se vendre ????
Le petit lait vendu en bordure de la route, aussi au Maroc, qu'en Tunisie ou Algérie (dans certaines régions) est du L'Ben, soit du lait fermenté soit du petit lait (après le beurre)... Tu en trouves également en France, industrialisé certes....
LILI
Le petit lait vendu en bordure de la route, aussi au Maroc, qu'en Tunisie ou Algérie (dans certaines régions) est du L'Ben, soit du lait fermenté soit du petit lait (après le beurre)... Tu en trouves également en France, industrialisé certes....
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
merci de votre reponses.je dois avouer que je ne savais pas ce que c'etait exactement, seulement d'apres dr jameel al-qudsi avait dit que l'on devrait en reprendre pour combattre beaucoup de maladies.j'ai trouve plusieurs sites qui vendent colostrum et c'est pourquoi j'ete confuse.
marium
Non c'est simplement du lait battu, une sorte de résidu de beurre en fait. En arabe ça se dit "leben"
Des infos pour vivre et travailler au Maroc : http://o-maroc.com
A propos, qui est-ce ce médecin ? Comment tu le connais ?
Cordialement
LILI
Cordialement
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
c'est un theologien qui interprete le coran pour dire que le "ptit" lait est bon pour la santé d'apres les preceptes du coran.
Et que ce "medecin" dit avoir fait une decouverte mondiale sur la nutrition et qu'il vous le presente sous forme de seminaire (contre remuneration bien sur). 😏
Et que ce "medecin" dit avoir fait une decouverte mondiale sur la nutrition et qu'il vous le presente sous forme de seminaire (contre remuneration bien sur). 😏
Il ne parlerait pas que du petit lait mais du "colostrum".... c'est quoi cela ???
Je me méfie bcp des "théologiens" qui "exploitent" le Coran à titre lucratif style "business" ! Il y en un certain nombre qui "agissent" sur les chaines arabophones.... quand on sait que c'est Hram d'utiliser le Coran à des fins commerciaux.... Ils donnent soi-disant des "recettes" et conseillent les pauvres gens qui doivent téléphoner à un N° spécial et ils font express de faire durer l'entretien téléphonique et entretemps, le compteur tourne.... je ne te dis pas les notes de téléphone....
Je connais une femme qui est devenue "accroc" à fond.... rien ne se fait sans suivre toutes les émissions de tous ces "escrocs"... c'est le fait de jouer avec l'incrédulité des personnes sensibles, naïves, ....
C'est trop !
Je me méfie bcp des "théologiens" qui "exploitent" le Coran à titre lucratif style "business" ! Il y en un certain nombre qui "agissent" sur les chaines arabophones.... quand on sait que c'est Hram d'utiliser le Coran à des fins commerciaux.... Ils donnent soi-disant des "recettes" et conseillent les pauvres gens qui doivent téléphoner à un N° spécial et ils font express de faire durer l'entretien téléphonique et entretemps, le compteur tourne.... je ne te dis pas les notes de téléphone....
Je connais une femme qui est devenue "accroc" à fond.... rien ne se fait sans suivre toutes les émissions de tous ces "escrocs"... c'est le fait de jouer avec l'incrédulité des personnes sensibles, naïves, ....
C'est trop !
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
ce "theologien" parle du "colostrum" et l'enrobe de la religion pour valider ses decouvertes.
c'est exactement ce que tu racontes. c'est un monsieur qui passe à la tv arabophone aussi.
c'est exactement ce que tu racontes. c'est un monsieur qui passe à la tv arabophone aussi.
Si tu ne connais pas qq'un au maroc qui ait une vache, tu n'as virtuellement aucune chance de boire du colostrum qui est un produit qui est tres tres tres tres tres convoité et qu'on reserve aux enfants et aux connaissances de grande valeur pour leur donner comme un precieux cadeau Au maroc ca s'appelle "elleba" et c'est pas fameux, car j'en ai gouté une fois mais bon comme te l'ont dit les autres forumistes ne te fie pas aux pratiques charlatanistes. Je te conseille plutot du miel de la region des ida ou tanane au nord d'agadir qui est base d'une sous espece de thym locale 'tazkounnit" et qui comme tous les autres genres de miel naturel au monde fait literallement des miracles quand on le prend de maniere reguliere.
merci a vous et aux autres correspondants pour vos reponses.j'ai trouve des sites ou on peut acheter du colostrum.un hopital a londres donne aux malades souffrant de problemes d'estomac divers, du colostrum et on remarque un retablissement rapide et recherche autre utilisation.les sportifs l'utilise etc...
professeur jameel al-qudsi est un homme devoue aux sciences de la medecine et du Quran.je les rencontre a londres lors d'une expo.il est tres interessant et si il gagne savie entre autres a travers seminaires je ne vois rien de mal.il a aide beaucoup de monde.
je vais essaye de trouve ce miel lors de mon retour au maroc.
marium
Je ne cherche pas à polémiquer ici sur le sujet de ces fameux "DR".... mais il ne faut pas oublier que le titre de "docteur" est très répandu et ne veut rien dire au niveau médical ! En Italie, par ex. "Dottore" est une distinction, un titre universitaire, mais rien à voir avec la médecine !
Je sais que la plupart de ces "dr" arabophones se font passer pour des médecins et malheureusement, ils sont aussi médecin que toi et moi ! Désolée, mais il faudra surtout savoir leur titre médical !
Je ne conteste pas du tout la médecine traditionnelle arabe que je commence à connaitre pas mal.... l'argile, l'huile d'olive, le miel, le lait de chamelle, l'armoise (chich), etc, etc... en font partis... et le Coran permet d'aider les personnes souffrantes mais pas à coup de $$$$$$$$ ! Hors de question ! Les personnes qui se sont fait aidés par ce "médecin" (????) sont souvent très croyants et sont persuédés que seul lui était capable de les guérir.... et souvent le mental a fait le reste ! Quand on sait que ces individus incitent les gens à souffler dans un verre rempli d'eau en récitant des sourates, que cela peut guérir une personne atteint par un cancer ! Etc...etc.... Je l'ai vu et entendu....
Les applications du type "magnétiseur" qui récite des versets ou sourates du Coran, cela existe mais ce n'est pas payant ou très peu (voire en nature pour les personnes pauvres...: ex. un poulet, des fruits, etc...). Je connais des personnes qui savent les applications de la médecine traditionnelle dans le Sahara, et c'est gratuit ! Ils n'ont pas l'idée de participer ni à un congrès ni à un salon au niveau international !
Juste un point, il faudra s'assurer qu'il s'agit bel et bien de colostrum.... je n'en ai jamais entendu parler.... je vais m'informer sur la qualité de ces produits !
C'est Haram de faire du fric à l'aide du Coran !
LILI
Je sais que la plupart de ces "dr" arabophones se font passer pour des médecins et malheureusement, ils sont aussi médecin que toi et moi ! Désolée, mais il faudra surtout savoir leur titre médical !
Je ne conteste pas du tout la médecine traditionnelle arabe que je commence à connaitre pas mal.... l'argile, l'huile d'olive, le miel, le lait de chamelle, l'armoise (chich), etc, etc... en font partis... et le Coran permet d'aider les personnes souffrantes mais pas à coup de $$$$$$$$ ! Hors de question ! Les personnes qui se sont fait aidés par ce "médecin" (????) sont souvent très croyants et sont persuédés que seul lui était capable de les guérir.... et souvent le mental a fait le reste ! Quand on sait que ces individus incitent les gens à souffler dans un verre rempli d'eau en récitant des sourates, que cela peut guérir une personne atteint par un cancer ! Etc...etc.... Je l'ai vu et entendu....
Les applications du type "magnétiseur" qui récite des versets ou sourates du Coran, cela existe mais ce n'est pas payant ou très peu (voire en nature pour les personnes pauvres...: ex. un poulet, des fruits, etc...). Je connais des personnes qui savent les applications de la médecine traditionnelle dans le Sahara, et c'est gratuit ! Ils n'ont pas l'idée de participer ni à un congrès ni à un salon au niveau international !
Juste un point, il faudra s'assurer qu'il s'agit bel et bien de colostrum.... je n'en ai jamais entendu parler.... je vais m'informer sur la qualité de ces produits !
C'est Haram de faire du fric à l'aide du Coran !
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
attention au lben quand on est fragile de digestion .il y a risque d intoxication et de diarhee .prevoir toujours UN antidiarhetique comme le NIFUROXAZIDE.
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Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)