Salut Marcel,
un grand merci pour ces informations, deja beaucoup de choses à digérer :). Je partirai en mars/avril 2019 depuis le Laos vers Shanghai, et les infos sont effectivement éparses pour les cyclistes…
Quelle distance en moyenne as tu parcouru dans ces régions montagneuses ?
Le bivouac est-il contraint pour certaines distances ou as tu des villages ou hotels suffisamment proches les uns des autres ?
Comment as tu obtenu ton visa 60 jours (lettre de motivation, parcours prédéfini etc... ou as tu une solution plus simple) ? Peux tu facilement étendre la durée une fois sur place ?
Je pense qu'à propos de la Chine il est important de conserver à l'esprit que ce pays est 17 fois plus grand que la France, et que l'autorité en place prend parfois des décisions surprenantes.
Je ne connais ni la Chine ni les provinces que j'ai traversées. Je n'en ai que l'expérience de la traversée en vélo.
Le bivouac ne pose pas de problème majeur si tu manges de tout. Dans l'ouest on trouve de l'eau partout. Pour ce qui est du visa j'ai eu la chance d'obtenir directement un visa de trois mois; je n'ai donc pas eu à le renouveler... sauf que... j'ai perdu mon passeport à Chengdu.... heureusement pour mois il y a un consulat Français dans cette ville. Sur ce sujet il te suffit de retenir qu'en cas de souci le passage obligé est le commissariat de Police. Arme toi de patience et d'un large sourire et au bout de quelques heures tu verras que le rapport de force changera.
Je ne sais si j'ai répondu à ton attente, mais je m'y suis efforcé dans la limite de mes connaissances.
Bon voyage.
P.S. : Chargement de l'application WECHAT obligatoire !! LOL
Pour ma part, j'ai traversé le Qinghai et Sichuan englobant l'Amdo et Kham deux provinces historiques tibétaines sans rencontrer un uniforme sur la route. J'ai alterné entre gdes axes (route Maduo-Yushu et Garze-Kangding)) ptes routes en voyageant en minibus (Darlag, Manigango). Mais c'était en 2012. C'est vrai que dans le pays, tout peut changer très vite.
Je suis allé 4X au Yunnan et l'an dernier, j'ai pu échangé des euros sans aucun souci à la BOC à Kunming. Cela dit, les endroits pour changer restent limités en ville et je pense qu'il n'y a pas de souci pour changer à Dali ou Lijiang.
Sur le fait que certains hôtels ne soient pas autorisés aux étrangers : oui j'en ai eu l'expérience à plusieurs endroits de la Chine durant ma traversée en 2012 mais c'est très variable en fait. Par ex au Yunnan, l'an dernier, dans le quartier de la gare ferroviaire, j'ai tourné pendant presque 2h essuyant refus sur refus. Du coup je m'étais rabattu sur l'hôtel international, je pensais qu'il allait m'assassiner niveau prix mais pas trop finalement. Je pense que ces restrictions sont dûes aux nlles réglementations anti terroristes car la gare de Kunming avait subi un effroyable massacre en 2014. Sinon, hormis qq villes sur le plateau tibétain (côté Amdo), je n'ai rencontré d'autres soucis d'hébergement même en allant dans des coins plus reculés comme la vallée de la Nujiang.
Fêtes et jours fériés en Chine
Fin janvier - Début février : La Fête du Printemps ou Nouvel An chinois qui change de date chaque année en fonction du calendrier lunaire. Les Chinois prennent alors une semaine de congés pour rendre visite à leur famille. La fête est célébrée avec la danse du lion, rythmée par une musique stridente. De nombreux pétards sont allumés pour éloigner les mauvais esprits.
5 avril : Fête du balayage des tombes, consacrée au culte des ancêtres (on dépose des fleurs sur les tombes et on brûle du faux papier-monnaie à l'intention des défunts)
1er mai : Fête du Travail
1er juin : Fête nationale des Enfants
1er juillet : Anniversaire du Parti Communiste Chinois
Pleine lune de septembre : fête de la mi-automne ou fête de la Lune (on allume des feux d’artifice et on déguste de délicieux gâteaux de lune)
28 septembre : Fête de Confucius
1er octobre : Fête Nationale (Anniversaire de la Fondation de la République de Chine Populaire, en 1949)
Us et coutumes en Chine
Quelques petits conseils pour éviter les impairs, si vous allez chez l’habitant, par exemple où un petit cadeau sera toujours apprécié … A table, ne tournez pas le bec de la théière vers votre interlocuteur et ne plantez pas vos baguettes dans le riz : cela fait penser à l’encens que l’on fait brûler en mémoire des morts. Ne perdez jamais patience. Restez calme et souriant en toute occasion : vous serez beaucoup plus convaincants. Ne cherchez pas à donner de leçons, ne provoquez pas de conversations politiques.
Cuisine en Chine
La cuisine chinoise est aussi variée que ses régions et ses cultures. Pékin reste la capitale du canard laqué et des légumes à l’aigre-doux, de plats épicés et avec du goût. Les provinces du centre proposent des plats plus pimentés. Aux environs de Shanghai et des bords de mer, les plats sont plutôt sucrés et à base de fruits de mer. La cuisine cantonaise est fondée sur la cuisson à la vapeur.
A noter que les Chinois dînent tôt, entre 18h30 et 19h30. La plupart des repas est incluse dans le circuit que vous avez acheté. Le guide a l’habitude de le choisir pour vous.
Ne soyez pas surpris si votre repas se termine sans une petite note sucrée. Certains restaurants apportent quelques fruits après le repas.
Hébergement
L’usage prévoit l’installation dans votre chambre à partir de 14h le jour de l’arrivée, et la libération de celle-ci à 12h maximum le jour du départ et parfois même 10h. Une mise à disposition en dehors de ces heures donne généralement lieu à un supplément non compris dans notre tarification. En Asie, la chambre triple est généralement une chambre double avec un lit d’appoint. A l’arrivée, certains hôtels peuvent demander l’empreinte de la carte bleue qui servirait à couvrir les dépenses personnelles supplémentaires (minibar, blanchisserie).
Juste histoire d'équilibrer les points de vue 😎 Je précise que je suis allé 4 fois en Chine pour d'assez longs séjours, la dernière fois cet été pour 1 mois dans le Yunnan, le Sichuan et au Tibet.
Oui nous avions étaient maintes fois contrôlées ;photos a chaque fois avec notre passeport sur la poitrine ;alors que nous étions en bus .
Cet été j'ai été contrôlé à deux reprises : en arrivant à Yarchen gar et en prenant le train pour le Tibet. Sinon, jamais.
On nous a refusé de nous vendre un sac de voyage dans un magasin ;il ne daignait même pas nous regarder.
On m'a refusé également de me vendre du pain ;je ne dis que la verité.
Ca n'est jamais arrivé qu'on refuse de me vendre quoi que ce soit.
Dans les hôtels on ne vous donne pas de thé ;il vous faut l'acheter .
Il y a toujours une bouilloire dans les chambres d'hôtel, et souvent deux sachets de thé. Sinon, je ne vais jamais en Chine sans mes propres sachets (j'ai mes petites habitudes).
Je ne vous parle pas d'internet quelle galère.
Ah ? Tous les hôtels et autres guesthouses ont le wifi, et dans les restos il suffit de demander.
La nourriture y était 3 fois a 4 fois plus plus chère pour nous occidentaux.
Première fois que je lis quelque chose comme ça. J'ai toujours payé le même prix que les autres. Peut-être parce que je regarde la carte et demande les prix avant de commander ?
Nous avons du aussi négocier tous les hôtels car a notre arrivée c’était plus cher comme les bus du reste .
Il faut tout négocier ;on est un porte monnaie sur patte
Je n'ai jamais négocié un hôtel. Soit je réserve en avance par Booking ou Trip et tout va bien, soit je demande le prix en arrivant et si ça ne ma convient pas, je change. En tout cas je n'ai jamais eu le sentiment d'être un "porte-monnaie" sur patte en Chine !!
Comme quoi, le ressenti d'un voyage varie pas mal entre les gens.
Je poursuivrai, un brin amusé, sur le rester calme pour être persuasif. Cela me fait penser à mon professeur de Chinois qui m'a souvent répété de ne jamais faire perdre la face à un chinois.....
Je m'y suis efforcé durant mon séjour jusqu'au moment où j'ai réalisé que cette règle ne s'applique qu'aux occidentaux. Dès lors je me suis comporté normalement avec le plus de justesse et d’honnêteté possible. Et si cela devait prendre mauvaise tournure je ne m'en sentais nullement responsable. Echanger va dans les deux sens.
A MECONG .... ton périple dans le Qin Haie et le nord Sishuan a t il donné lieu à un blog ? Puis je en avoir le lien ?
Ce sera par là que je retournerai en Chine...
Merci par avance
En France..... A Marseille....je m'y suis rendu en personne. Pense à obtenir un justificatif de ton assurance rapatriement qui précise clairement que tu es couvert pour la Chine aux dates de ton voyage.. j'ai un peu galéré avec ce détail
j'avais écrit un post d'infos pratiques
https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5650896;search_string=Infos%20pratiques%20Xinjiang
cela dit les prix ont dû sensiblement évoluer
et aussi un carnet de voyage
Fragments de voyage d'Istanbul à Jakarta par la route, dispo dans la rubrique carnets de voyage
et aussi un bouquin tiré de ce long voyage.
Le Qinghai j'en garde des souvenirs inoubliables. C'est une terre rude (dans la zone de Maqen-Darlag-Maduo) peuplée de nomades avec leurs troupeaux de yacks. Paysages à couper le souffle.
Et aussi le lac Qinghai
La rudesse que tu évoques pourrait ressembler à ce que j'ai entre-aperçu au nord ouest du Sichuan. C'est pour elle et ses nomades que j'ai envie de retourner là bas.
QUant aux paysages cela ne fait aucun doute.
Mercipour le lien.
Bien à toi
Je reconnais bien ces fameuses motos qui roulent juste partout. Mais curieusement à cette altitude, la moto photographiée n'a pas les chauffages aux jambes comme j'en ai vu souvent.
Elles ont quand même toutes ces structures en inox permettant des chargements surprenants.
Pour ce qui est des paysages ils sont justes incroyablement ouverts et j'aime ça. Pourvu que le soleil soit au rendez vous .
Bien à toi
bonjour ;
Je réponds juste par politesse ;et oui cela existe encore...
Des gens comme vous il y en a plein qui voyage et se donnent de l'importance ;je me demande comment vous voyagez...
je voyage seule (( sans agence )) et en bus ; beaucoup de personnes prétendent savoir et avoir tout vu mais n'ont rien vu finalement.
Donc c'est très bien que vous n'ayez pas eu ces problèmes mais cela existe puisque j'en parle
comme je l'ai vécu.
Cessez de cassez les gens ;vous manquez de tolérance.
Cordialement
Gmy
A mon tour de faire preuve d'un peu de tolérance.
Je ne suis pas ici pour comparer ce que je fais ou ne fais pas avec les autres.
Chacun de nous voyageons à notre façon avec nos compétences nos envies, notre courage, notre volonté et nos moyens.
Ce forum est juste là pour rendre la vie personnelle de chacun encore plus libre en s'affranchissant de difficultés matérielles de certaines contrées et en donnant envie d'aller voir au bout de son jardin.
Pour ma part (sauf quand je me sens directement agressé) je n'accorde d'intérêt qu'aux textes positifs et constructifs. Car malheureusement je ne peux rien pour les autres... je ne suis ni psychologue ni sociologue.
J'ai par contre une soif intangible de voyager, de vivre le plus d'endroits possibles avant d'être rattrapé par le déambulateur !!!
En carrosse avec majordomes, pourquoi ?
J'ai rédigé un compte-rendu après chacun de mes deux derniers voyages en Chine, de manière à donner des informatiques pratiques aux autres voyageurs. Lisez-les et vous verrez bien comment je voyage.
Cessez de cassez les gens ;vous manquez de tolérance.
Je n'ai fait qu'apporter un autre point de vue, pour que les personnes qui lisent cette discussion aient un maximum d'informations. C'est le but d'un forum, entre autres, que d'échanger les points de vue. Ne vous sentez pas vexé simplement par parce quelqu'un a vécu d'autres expériences que vous 🙂
Bienvenu en pays Golog
la région autour de l'Amnye-Machen. Pays de nomades durs à cuir. Les Tibétains de cette région me font penser aux Indiens des pays andins.
Pas simple pour se déplacer, j'ai un peu galéré mais c'est réellement une terre d'aventure avec toutes ses saveurs. Souvenirs inoubliables.
La route entre Maduo et Yushu est extraordinaire (c'est celle qui part de Xining et va à Lhassa)
Le lac Qinghai. Xining est un bon point de base pour t'organiser et ça permet de s'acclimater à l'altitude (2000m).
Facile de bivouaquer autour du lac côté sud. Il y a bcp de jeunes Chinois qui voyagent à destination de Lhassa (bicyclette, stop, marche, bus), certains campent au bord, d'autres vont à l'auberge de jeunesse Kokonor (j'y étais), ambiance roots, l'endroit est autogéré. Pas loin du lac.
Beaucoup de cyclistes chinois autour du lac.
L'Amdo c'est là que prennent leur source, les deux géants : le Yangtsé et le Huang Ho. Un endroit admirer et contempler le Huang Ho est Darlag
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Here are some tips from our 6-week trip (summer 2026) to China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. We traveled as a family of four with two kids aged 15 and 12.
I hope these notes help other travelers!
CHINA
General
You’ll need to download and set up a few apps:
- Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip)
- Didi for taxis
- Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways)
- A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results)
- Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy.
- HelloRide for bikes
- Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things.
- HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats)
- Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city.
For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet.
Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out.
Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai
In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou
Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town.
The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing
Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully.
Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off.
Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert
Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant.
The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example.
We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei
Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an
Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly.
We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice.
Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down.
45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up.
We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day.
In the city, check out...
Chengdu
Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill.
Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out.
Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights.
Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming
The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us.
All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali
We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that.
The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border)
Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM
General:
- You’ll need the Grab app for taxis
- Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead.
- Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai
2 km between the border and the train station.
The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi
Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think).
Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long
Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick
This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay
We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha
If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves.
There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops.
Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang
Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour).
The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An
45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot.
Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City
Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go.
The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho
Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc
No Grab in the city, but regular taxis.
One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon.
250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike)
The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate.
Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep
Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA
General:
- Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh
For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere.
Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example.
The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap
Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride.
Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise.
Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas.
By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour.
Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere.
Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours.
If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon.
For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones.
Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours.
Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap)
Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city.
Show tip: The Phare Circus
Hey there,
In the sea of VPNs, I'm looking for one to use in China for just a month (free or paid). Which one should I pick? All the ones I've found are for several months or even a year.
Has anyone taken the bus recently, especially the Busda bus from Dongsi subway station to Mutianyu or the special tourist bus from Qianmen to Mutianyu? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback!
I’m traveling solo to China on September 18th and I’m completely overwhelmed by all the info out there.
This isn’t my first trip, but it’s still tough to make choices, so I’m open to outside perspectives.
This time, the plan is southern Kyushu with a slightly more off-the-beaten-path twist.
I’m not sure if you’ll be able to help since I’m skipping some of the classics in Kyushu, but you never know.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on whether this itinerary is realistic in terms of time spent in each place, travel time, and the overall pace of the road trip. Just to note, I already have my translated driver’s license.
Here’s the itinerary:
- **Day 1:** YAMAGA / overnight in Yamaga or Kumamoto
Depart from Osaka by train early in the morning to Kumamoto, pick up the rental car, then drive to Yamaga for a visit. Overnight in Yamaga or Kumamoto.
- **Days 2–4:** HITOYOSHI / overnight in Hitoyoshi
Drive to Hitoyoshi for 3 days and 3 nights, including a visit to the town, nearby waterfalls, a walk along the Kuma River, a tea producer visit, and some craft activities.
- **Day 5:** AYA / overnight in Miyazaki
Drive to Aya, visit the town, craft activities, the forest, and the suspension bridge.
- **Day 6:** AOSHIMA - NICHINAN COAST / overnight in Miyazaki
Udo Shrine + Aoshima + scenic drive along the coast.
- **Day 7:** MIYAKONOJO / overnight in Shibushi
Drive to a waterfall, then continue along the Nichinan Coast if there’s anything left to see, or visit Kojima Island.
- **Day 8:** SHIBUSHI
Walk around the port and along the Osumi Peninsula coast, maybe as far as the Kishira/Hetsuka coast, or visit a black pork producer, a market gardener, or a tea producer. Overnight at a farm?
- **Day 9:** KANOYA / overnight in Kagoshima
Visit Ogawara Waterfall, Nishiharadai Park, and Kannon Cave, then Sugawara Shrine, followed by the drive to Kagoshima.
- **Day 10:** KAGOSHIMA / overnight in Kagoshima
Explore the city + whisky distillery in Hioki.
- **Days 11–12:** KOSHIKISHIMA / 2 nights in Koshikishima
- **Day 13:** AKUNE OSHIMA / overnight in Akune
Ferry, then drive to Akune Oshima with a stop at Sendai Taki.
- **Days 14–15:** AMAKUSA / overnight in Amakusa
Drive via Nagashima and visit Shimoshima (Amakusa).
- **Day 16:** AMAKUSA / overnight in Fukuoka
Drive back toward Kumamoto with stops along the way, return the rental car, then take the train to Fukuoka.
- **Days 17–18:** FUKUOKA CITY / overnight in Fukuoka
Possible half-day excursion to Nokonoshima, Munakata, or Nanzoin.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Too ambitious?
I could add an extra day but would prefer not to if it means less rushing around.
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
Hi everyone,
To simplify logistics, I'm considering renting a car for 5/6 days in the Japanese Alps before heading to Kyoto solo.
Is driving difficult or even risky in this region?
Thanks for your feedback!
Tara
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I saw there are several "authentic" villages about 90/100 km from Beijing.
Including: Lingshui, Liuliqu, Sangyu, Miaoying, and Cuandixia.
Has anyone visited any of them? I was thinking of choosing Cuandixia—what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone!
It seems there’s a flea market in Tianjin that’s way more interesting than the one in Beijing. I’ve been searching online but can’t find the right one… The one I’m looking for is called gu wan shi chang (my PC won’t display the Chinese characters…). Does anyone have the address and has anyone been there before? The one in Beijing has lost a lot of its charm over the past 10 years, so I wanted to find another. Thanks!
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan.
From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan.
Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan?
(I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us?
(According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara
- Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights
- Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights
- Himeji: 1 night
- Kyoto: 4 nights
- Kanazawa: 2 nights
- Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights
- Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights
- Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks)
Departure from Tokyo
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much.
philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it.
2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them.
3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days
Gyeongju: 2 days
Busan: 3 days
Jeju: 4 days
Seoul: 2 days
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo
1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked)
4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked)
2 nights in Osaka
4 nights back in Tokyo
I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno.
I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better.
Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel