Préparation d'un voyage vers San Francisco et l'Ouest américain
by Martserge
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
je prepare notre voyage d'ete :
paris vers san francisco
san francisco :2ou3 jours-las vegas en ligne interne:2jours
c'est apres que ça se complique..
j'ai elimine los angeles car deplacement dans la ville tres complique meme en transport en commun.
nous aimerions faire le grand canyon en voiture et peut etre un autre parc et repartir par un vol direct de salt lake city.
nous disposons de 10 jours
qu'en pensez-vous?
sur le plan financier nous pouvons gerer assez aisement.
merci
Bonjour,
Une question, vous disposez de seulement 10 jours pour la totalité de votre voyage ?
Cordialement,
Une question, vous disposez de seulement 10 jours pour la totalité de votre voyage ?
Cordialement,
Katze
http://katze.fr
Mon site pour vous aider à bien préparer votre voyage dans l'Ouest américain.
La page Facebook du site sur : https://www.facebook.com/katze06
Pourquoi ne pas faire la boucle classique autour de Vegas au lieu de repartir de Salt Lake? Cela te permettra de ne pas avoir à payer les frais de drop-off pour le véhicule.
A savoir:
Vegas - Grand Canyon - Monument Valley - Page - Bryce Canyon - Zion - Valley Of Fire - Vegas
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san francisco car vol direct de paris.
de las vegas peut on faire le gran canyon en voiture, et les autres sitespeut on les faire au depart de las vegas
San Francisco ok... Je parlais de Salt Lake! Au retour peu importe si tu n'as pas un vol direct car tu n'as pas à t'occuper des bagages à l'escale, ni à passer l'immigration ou la douane.
Pour les parcs que je t'ai cités, il faut loger à chaque fois sur place, rien ne peut se faire à partir de Vegas en aller retour sur une journée à part Valley Of Fire.
Pour les parcs que je t'ai cités, il faut loger à chaque fois sur place, rien ne peut se faire à partir de Vegas en aller retour sur une journée à part Valley Of Fire.
oui nous ne disposons que de huit jours. c'est vrai ça fait peu mais on a pas le choix.c'est pour cette raison que nous avons un budget un peu plus cool
Alors en 8 jours c'est encore pire, ne surtout pas repartir de Salt Lake! Que de route pour rien!
Tu restes à Vegas, un jour tu fais Valley Of Fire sur la journée avec visite de préférence en fin d'après-midi. Et pour le Grand Canyon tu as le choix entre le survol à partir de Vegas de Grand Canyon West ou, si tu veux aller au National Park (South Rim) tu dois passer une nuit sur place à Grand Canyon Village ou Tusayan.
Tu restes à Vegas, un jour tu fais Valley Of Fire sur la journée avec visite de préférence en fin d'après-midi. Et pour le Grand Canyon tu as le choix entre le survol à partir de Vegas de Grand Canyon West ou, si tu veux aller au National Park (South Rim) tu dois passer une nuit sur place à Grand Canyon Village ou Tusayan.
je pense en ecoutant tous vos conseils:j
j1 arrivee sur sna franciscoj
j2 et j3 san francisco
j4 et si on partait pour las vegas en voiture et faire un parc en cours de route et on dormirais sur place(qui a une idee)
j5et6 un autre parc (grand canyon et brice canyon)
j7 et8 las vegas
j9 retour paris
quelle est la distance entre san francisco et las vegas et peut on faire un grand crochet pour aller sur un parc ?
ps :ou puis je trouver une carte qui donne pas mal de detail ? j'ai beau chercher sur le net je ne sais pas trouver grand chose de detaille.
merci pour toute vos reponses
" ou puis je trouver une carte qui donne pas mal de detail ? "
Regarde... c'est du tout frais http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5952294#5952294
Regarde... c'est du tout frais http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5952294#5952294
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Pour évaluer les distances, tu as Google Maps plutôt précis ainsi que pour les temps de roulage (roulage sans pauses ni visites ni bouchons bien sûr 😉)
Malheureusement (vérifie sur Google Maps) tu ne pourras pas faire la route entre Vegas et SF + 1 parc (mais il y en a deux: Sequoia et Death Valley ou Yosemite et Death Valley) ainsi que Bryce + Grand Canyon
La solution consisterait à prendre un vol interne (Southwest fait des vols à 100$) entre SF et Vegas et de là louer une voiture. A SF tu peux à la limite économiser la voiture si tu as un budget limité.
Pour les cartes des parcs tu vas sur nps.gov
Pour des cartes routières: http://usa-atlas.com/index.html
j1 arrivée sur San Francisco j2 et j3 San Francisco j4 Vol SF - Vegas - Nuit Vegas j5 Vegas - Survol de Grand Canyon West au départ de Vegas - Nuit Vegas j7 Vegas - Valley Of Fire - Zion - Bryce (nuit Tropic) J8: Bryce (visites) et retour Vegas - Nuit Vegas j9 retour paris
Malheureusement (vérifie sur Google Maps) tu ne pourras pas faire la route entre Vegas et SF + 1 parc (mais il y en a deux: Sequoia et Death Valley ou Yosemite et Death Valley) ainsi que Bryce + Grand Canyon
La solution consisterait à prendre un vol interne (Southwest fait des vols à 100$) entre SF et Vegas et de là louer une voiture. A SF tu peux à la limite économiser la voiture si tu as un budget limité.
Pour les cartes des parcs tu vas sur nps.gov
Pour des cartes routières: http://usa-atlas.com/index.html
j1 arrivée sur San Francisco j2 et j3 San Francisco j4 Vol SF - Vegas - Nuit Vegas j5 Vegas - Survol de Grand Canyon West au départ de Vegas - Nuit Vegas j7 Vegas - Valley Of Fire - Zion - Bryce (nuit Tropic) J8: Bryce (visites) et retour Vegas - Nuit Vegas j9 retour paris
je suis aller voir mon agence , voici sa proposition:
j1:arrivee las vegas
j2 las vegas
j3las vegas /grand canyon:375km
j4grand canyon/lac powel:235km
j5:lac powel/brice canyon:270km
j6:brice canyon/ZION/las vegas:415km
j7:las vegas/vallee de la mort:260km
j8:vallee de la mort/yosemite:620km
j9:yosemite/san francisco:335km
j10:san francisco
j11:san francisco depart toulouse en fin d'apres midi
qu'en pensez vous ?
mon mari aime conduire , mais est-ce que ça nous laisse assez de temps pour admirer le paysage et faire de petites escapades..
quel type de voiture me conseillez vous?
merci
Je pense que c'est rapide notamment pour la partie Page/Bryce/Zion/Valley Of Fire/Vegas puis la partie Death Valley/Yosemite/SF
Il vous est impossible de rajouter deux jours?
Et puis reste à savoir où votre agence vous ferait loger 😉
Il vous est impossible de rajouter deux jours?
Et puis reste à savoir où votre agence vous ferait loger 😉
pas de possibilite de rajouter ni1 ni2 jours j'ai deja calculer le plus large . le travail oblige , c'est ce qui nous permet d'etre un peu moins regardant au niveau frais.je pensais si l'etape routiere est plus courte et les hotels dans les sites cela nous permettais de pouvoir circuler sur place .est-on obliger de repasser par las vegas pour aller la vallee de la mort??? d'apres les cartes oui...
Oui mais vous n'êtes pas obligé d'y refaire étape, vous pouvez loger à Mesquite ou Overton afin de pouvoir faire Valley Of Fire aux meilleures heures à savoir en fin d'après-midi et en tout début de matinée afin d'avoir moins chaud et de profiter des couleurs les plus belles
merci pour votre reponse rapide je pars bosser cet apres midi je regarderais ou sont ces villes et sielles ont des hotels
je m'interroge sur la vallee de la mort ? est-il possible de faire las vegas yosemite ? n'est ce pas trop long? je reflechissais si on prend un vol interne de las vegas a san francisco on perd autant de temps qu'avec la voiture avec la fatigue en moins (transfert a l'aeroport +embarquemernt+recuperation des bagages et a nouveau transfert vers san frnacisco)une bonne demi journee .alors que si la route est possible la vallee de la mort c'est juste un site a traverser comte tenu de la saison (fin aout)
Las Vegas - Yosemite Valley c'est 7h30 de route sans pauses ni arrêts et sans passer par Death Valley.
Si vous passez par Death Valley c'est 9h de route sans pauses ni visites.
Trop grosse journée donc, à éviter 😉
Il faut faire au minimum:
1. Vegas - Death Valley avec nuit dans la Death Valley pour visiter aux meilleures heures, Death Valley est un des parcs américains les plus grands en superficie. 2. Death Valley - Mammoth Lakes ou Lee Vining avec entre les deux pas mal de choses à voir: Alabama Hills, Mono Lake, Bodie etc... 3. Mammoth Lakes - Tioga Road - Yosemite Valley
Je ne suis pas d'accord pour dire que Death Valley est un site juste "à traverser" 😛. C'est un site à ne pas rater mais à visiter tôt le matin ou en fin d'après-midi donc nuit sur place nécessaire.
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Il faut faire au minimum:
1. Vegas - Death Valley avec nuit dans la Death Valley pour visiter aux meilleures heures, Death Valley est un des parcs américains les plus grands en superficie. 2. Death Valley - Mammoth Lakes ou Lee Vining avec entre les deux pas mal de choses à voir: Alabama Hills, Mono Lake, Bodie etc... 3. Mammoth Lakes - Tioga Road - Yosemite Valley
Je ne suis pas d'accord pour dire que Death Valley est un site juste "à traverser" 😛. C'est un site à ne pas rater mais à visiter tôt le matin ou en fin d'après-midi donc nuit sur place nécessaire.
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bon alors je vais rester avec la premiere idee :las vegas .vallee de la mort et le lendemain vallee de la mort .yosemite en 6 heures je pense que c'est faisable en partant pas trop tard.
a votre avis vaut-il mieux faire las vegas en premier ou san francisco?
MERCI
Bonsoir, 🙂
LV-SF par avion, c'est 4h tout compris. Impossible en voiture. L'agence, c'est obligatoire ? 😐
LV-SF par avion, c'est 4h tout compris. Impossible en voiture. L'agence, c'est obligatoire ? 😐
Les concours photos VF
Las Vegas ou SF en 1er là pas d'avis 😉... Cela dépend du prix des billets d'avion je dirais. Et aussi de la location de voiture.
vau il peut etre mieux suprimer la route vers san francisco prendre l'avion est passe plus de temps a brice?
une autre solution faire le grand canyon en helico sur la journee et ça me laisserais plus de temps pour remonter vers san francisco tout en gardant lac powel et brice
je n'ai rien arrete pour le moment je suis dans le choix .
la seul chose dont je suis sure c'est depart :23aout et arrivee le soir et depart le 2septembre en soiree pour une arrivee le3septembre a toulouse.
nous avons du mal a prendre une decision tout nous tente ...et nous ne sommes pas trop regardant pour le budget
Oui tu peux prendre l'avion entre Vegas et SF. Regarde sur Southwest, vols pas chers avec bagages compris (rare pour un vol interne).
Pour Bryce, si vous randonnez un jour entier est en effet une bonne chose: Peek A Boo Loop, Mossy Cave...
" Oui tu peux prendre l'avion entre Vegas et SF. "
SF... ou Oakland (c'est souvent moins cher)
SF... ou Oakland (c'est souvent moins cher)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
nous sommes decides :j
j1 arrivee las vegas
j2 las vegas
j3 grand canyon
j4lac pôwel
j5brice
j7 nuit sur las vegas
j8la valley de la mort
j9 yosemite
j10 etj11 san francisco
j12 depart pour la france a 19h
j'ai fait faire un devis par un autotour:2600euro par personne
j'ai fait uns simulation par expedia 3700pour les deux
ça comprend :avion aller et retour, hotel sans petit dej, location voiture (suv)
sur le devis de l'agence il y a en plus vue sur les fontaines du bellagios et transfert en navette hotel aeroport a san francisco et assistance representant local
qu'en pensez-vous?
merci pour vos conseils ..
Je pense que 2600€ par personne (et encore tout n'est pas compris) c'est horriblement cher... Alors que j'arrive à environ 2500€ par personne tout compris pour un voyage de 3 semaines...
a votre avis quelle est l'agence de reservation en ligne la plus serieuse
j'ai deja eu affaire avec booking pour les hotels et go voyage pour les vols
que pensez vous de expedia , e bookers ou autres
merci
Vs avez déjà fait une partie du travail de préparation en essayant de mettre au point un itinéraire à vos goûts.
Qd il sera validé (y a encore qq trucs à mettre au point) , il suffit ensuite de réserver par vs-même les vols d'avion, les hôtels et la voiture de location. Pq demander à une agence de faire les réservations de votre autotour à votre place? Avec internet, de nos jours, c'est extrêmement simple et en plus vs pourrez ainsi choisir le tout à votre convenance (horaires de vol et nombre d'escales, hôtels bien placés, etc...) . Et surtout, ça vs coûtera nettement moins cher car pas de rétribution à donner à l'agence.
Ensuite, il vs restera à préparer le contenu de vos journées (avec l'aide de VF, c'est aussi très simple)...mais de tte façon, même en passant par une agence, ce n'est pas elle qui préparera votre voyage. Elle vs dira tt au plus quelles routes emprunter et quels parcs sont situés sur ces routes (mais, ça vs le savez déjà puisque vs avez construit un itinéraire) , mais elle ne vs donnera aucune carte de chacun des parcs nationaux, ne vous renseignera pas sur les différentes balades à faire , ne vous signalera pas en détail tout ce qu'il y a à voir entre les parcs, etc...
Et puis préparer soi-même son voyage de A-Z en lisant des guides-papier, les discussions de VF et des carnets de voyages permet de déjà voyager plusieurs mois à l'avance...
Continuez vs-même le travail que vs avez déjà commencé... à moins que vs n'ayez pas le temps ou l'envie de préparer ce voyage (mais alors, l'autotour concocté à votre place par l'agence de voyage ne sera de tte façon pas suffisamment bien préparé) ou que vs ne compreniez pas un mot d'anglais (mais avec l'outil -traduction de google , c'est amplement suffisamment)
Qd il sera validé (y a encore qq trucs à mettre au point) , il suffit ensuite de réserver par vs-même les vols d'avion, les hôtels et la voiture de location. Pq demander à une agence de faire les réservations de votre autotour à votre place? Avec internet, de nos jours, c'est extrêmement simple et en plus vs pourrez ainsi choisir le tout à votre convenance (horaires de vol et nombre d'escales, hôtels bien placés, etc...) . Et surtout, ça vs coûtera nettement moins cher car pas de rétribution à donner à l'agence.
Ensuite, il vs restera à préparer le contenu de vos journées (avec l'aide de VF, c'est aussi très simple)...mais de tte façon, même en passant par une agence, ce n'est pas elle qui préparera votre voyage. Elle vs dira tt au plus quelles routes emprunter et quels parcs sont situés sur ces routes (mais, ça vs le savez déjà puisque vs avez construit un itinéraire) , mais elle ne vs donnera aucune carte de chacun des parcs nationaux, ne vous renseignera pas sur les différentes balades à faire , ne vous signalera pas en détail tout ce qu'il y a à voir entre les parcs, etc...
Et puis préparer soi-même son voyage de A-Z en lisant des guides-papier, les discussions de VF et des carnets de voyages permet de déjà voyager plusieurs mois à l'avance...
Continuez vs-même le travail que vs avez déjà commencé... à moins que vs n'ayez pas le temps ou l'envie de préparer ce voyage (mais alors, l'autotour concocté à votre place par l'agence de voyage ne sera de tte façon pas suffisamment bien préparé) ou que vs ne compreniez pas un mot d'anglais (mais avec l'outil -traduction de google , c'est amplement suffisamment)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Pour les vols: directement auprès des compagnies aériennes (toutes ont un site internet) après, si besoin, avoir faire des simulations sur des sites généralistes tels opodo etc...
Pour les hôtels: réserver chez le moins cher parmi hotels.com, booking ou en direct sur le site internet de l'hôtel (pratiquement tous les hôtels et motels ont leur site internet propre)
Pour les hôtels: réserver chez le moins cher parmi hotels.com, booking ou en direct sur le site internet de l'hôtel (pratiquement tous les hôtels et motels ont leur site internet propre)
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Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!