À propos du Vietnam et de certaines arnaques
by Lucq
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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大家好 !bonjour tout le monde ! A propos du Viet Nam. Je ne m’adresse à personne en particulier. Je voudrais simplement dire ce que je pense à propos des « arnaques aux touristes » au Viet Nam. Pour moi, une des premières cause de ces arnaques vient du fait que l’on désigne le VN comme un « pays facile pour le touriste » Pourquoi le VN qui partage une bonne partie de sa culture, de son histoire et de sa façon de vivre avec la Chine est il considéré « façile » et que cette derniere est classée dans les pays difficiles ? Mystere. Qu’est-ce que cela veut dire ??? existe-t-il des pays plus facile que d’autres ??? On ne peut tout de même pas mettre sur un même pied, partir en vacances à la Costa del sol et voyager au VN.Le voyage au VN et en asie en géneral doit se préparer. Personne ne le fait. C’est la le problème.La plupart des gens partent sans aucune connaissance du monde asiatique pensant tout découvrir sur place. Enorme erreur. La culture de l’Asie ne se découvre pas sur place mais dans les livres. Jamais un asiatique ne se déplacera dans un pays étranger sans en connaitre d’abord ni la culture ni la langue, sauf si son business l’y oblige Ils ne comprenent pas pourquoi la plupart des occidentaux qui viennent chez eux n’ont aucune connaissance de leur société. Ce qui est aussi difficile pour les vietnamiens, c’est aussi l’attitude de bon nombre de touristes : il se baladent torse nu, bierre à la main, parlent fort et les filles se baladent en ville comme à la plage... cela choque. Certains vont me dire que les « locaux » font comme cela aussi !Mais justement, ce sont des locaux ! ils pensent que c’est un manque de repect quand ils voient les touristes faire ca car pour eux chaque étranger est un peu l’ambassadeur de son pays. Le Vietnamien est un peuple fier et difficile cela va sans dire et en plus ils sont « les rois de l’argent ». Qu’ils essayent par touts les moyens de faire de l’argent, c’est vrai. D’ailleurs, seul les occidentaux considèrent ce pays comme une destination façile, les autres voyageurs asiatiques savent à quoi s’en tenir. Il faut aussi rajouter l’histoire récente du Viet Nam-colonisation, guerres-ainsi que la réalité socio-économique des Viets : pour eux la vie n’est pas aussi simple qu’en France. L’administration passe son temps à arnaquer ses consitoyens. Bien-sur, il faut concilier des points de vue radicalement opposés et pour bien appréhender la culture du VN et de l’Asie il faudrait faire des études d’orientalisme !!!! ( ce que j’ai fais et qui n est pas le cas de tout le monde. Rajoutons quelques origines mandchoues et europeennes, donc j’ai plus façile à comprendre. Ce qui ne veux pas dire que c est facile d’etre metis en asie...) Non le VietNam n’est pas un pays facile et seule une longue pratique fera découvrir les beautés cachés de sa culture ! Un jour un chinois m’a dit : si tu veux apprendre la culture chinoise, apprend d’abord le chinois à l’université, ensuite vit et travaille en Chine pendant 10 ans et seulement à ce moment la tu commencera à comprendre un peu... Hier soir un vietnamien m’as dit à peu près la même chose...
Hello Luc,
Bien resume...
Evidemment, on ne peut pas demander aux visiteurs occasionnels d'avoir une connaissance approfondie de la culture asiatique et vietnamienne avant de venir, mais un minimum de recherches et de lectures (pas seulement les programmes des agences de voyages ni les catalogues "cartes postales") les aiderait grandement dans leur decouverte du pays et de ses habitants.
Je crois qu'un grand probleme vient du fait que tout le monde fait le meme circuit Nord-Sud (ou inversement) ou, comme tu le dis, il y a de grandes opportunites pour les locaux de "faire de l'argent". Au retour, n'ayant vu qu'une infime partie du pays et n'ayant cotoye que les gens qui vivent du tourisme, ils ont une opinion completement tronquee et fausse du Viet Nam dans son ensemble et, partant, de la grande majorite de sa population.
J'ai lu dernierement un article sur le tourisme a Paris, je me demande pourquoi cela ne choque pas plus que ca alors qu'ici, on crie au scandale.
Il est neanmoins vrai que le Vietnamien a cette mentalite de "faire de l'argent", beaucoup et le plus vite possible. Mais cela n'est pas reserve exclusivement aux touristes, entre eux ils sont pareils, j'ai pu le remarquer de nombreuses fois lors de discussions avec des locaux. Le touriste se sent gruge ? Que dire des locaux qui se font profondement rouler par leur propre famille. leurs amis ?
Le Viet Nam, un pays "facile" ? Il serait temps de remettre les pendules a l'heure des prejuges 😏😏😏😏 Non, le Viet Nam n'est pas un pays facile, que l'on soit visiteur, expat ou stagiaire temporaire. Le Viet Nam s'apprend, lentement mais surement, avec un maximum de bon sens et d'humilite, avec une ouverture d'esprit positive et non avec un esprit critique et conquerant. Le Viet Nam est un pays magnifique, tant du point de vue paysager que culturel, social, economique, mais il se merite.
Cordialement, Pat
PS : Ou vis-tu ?
Bien resume...
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Je crois qu'un grand probleme vient du fait que tout le monde fait le meme circuit Nord-Sud (ou inversement) ou, comme tu le dis, il y a de grandes opportunites pour les locaux de "faire de l'argent". Au retour, n'ayant vu qu'une infime partie du pays et n'ayant cotoye que les gens qui vivent du tourisme, ils ont une opinion completement tronquee et fausse du Viet Nam dans son ensemble et, partant, de la grande majorite de sa population.
J'ai lu dernierement un article sur le tourisme a Paris, je me demande pourquoi cela ne choque pas plus que ca alors qu'ici, on crie au scandale.
Il est neanmoins vrai que le Vietnamien a cette mentalite de "faire de l'argent", beaucoup et le plus vite possible. Mais cela n'est pas reserve exclusivement aux touristes, entre eux ils sont pareils, j'ai pu le remarquer de nombreuses fois lors de discussions avec des locaux. Le touriste se sent gruge ? Que dire des locaux qui se font profondement rouler par leur propre famille. leurs amis ?
Le Viet Nam, un pays "facile" ? Il serait temps de remettre les pendules a l'heure des prejuges 😏😏😏😏 Non, le Viet Nam n'est pas un pays facile, que l'on soit visiteur, expat ou stagiaire temporaire. Le Viet Nam s'apprend, lentement mais surement, avec un maximum de bon sens et d'humilite, avec une ouverture d'esprit positive et non avec un esprit critique et conquerant. Le Viet Nam est un pays magnifique, tant du point de vue paysager que culturel, social, economique, mais il se merite.
Cordialement, Pat
PS : Ou vis-tu ?
bonjor , je ne te donne pas tout faux , mais j'emettrais un bemol de taille ,
celui de penser et croire , que les asiats comme tu le dis par toi meme , font plus de chemin que nous autres occidentaux , pour comprendre notre culture .
non je ne le crois pas a ca deux ou trois raisons , je vis en thailande depuis dux ans , j'ai vecu en france avec une asiatique , 4 ans , tu me dirais in ne fait de raccourci aussi facil , a quoi je repondrai , mon experience du terrain , m'as appris que le respect temoigne par les asitiques les eloigne , en terme de connaissances et d'introspection de nmos cultures , leur s approches restent tres superficiels en comparaison de ce que nous autres avons en retour comme information sur eux , pour une raison limpide , c'est que l'occident voyage et s'implique plus dans destiantions que le font les asiats .
apres onpeut parler de cliches et de ce relayer , il y a peu par les informations et les deceptions de nos cheres japonais qui nous encense , et qui tombent de tres haut , c car des images tro eloignes de la realite .
je parlerais de ce que je connais la thailande est certes un beau pays , bourres de charme , mais tant que l'on vient ici en touriste , qu dela , la deception s'instalera du peu de savoir et de leur manque d'ouverture d'esprit si leur pays est souvent manager dans les deux langues pour le tourisme , quant est il de tous les jours a ce projeter dans une autre culture , lecture , musique , films que la leur .
a titre d'exemple ils encessent l'angleterre alors meme qu'il serait incapable de la localiser par rapport a l'allemgne , ma belle soeur enrevient apres deux ans , et tres decu , mentalite , climat , travail la toutime , en somme . mais son depart etait loin d'etre preparer , comme tu dis .
certes je te rejoins il faut lontemps pour perce le mystere de l'asie , mais pas toutel'asie , la malaisie est bien plus ouverte et interrese .
plusieur s raisons a ce phenomemne , leur cultures , leur langue , leur religion , et leur protectionnisme qui les induisent plus a la fermeture qu'a l'ouverture . et enfin la peur , voir sur GAVROCHE un sujet tres interresant ecrit sur les tenants et aboutissants de la propriete thai , par des etrangers , , ce dossier a le merite d'etre ecrtit par un thai , ensoi cela cre une caisse de resonnance , la peur des etrangers .
Je terminerais sur une note plus positive j'ai bien aime le vietnam , aca surement parce que nous avons une histoire commune , une langue que l'on retrouve aupres des plus agees , et donc qui cre un lien , je les ai trouver beaucoup plus spontane , et interressant que les thais .
je te souhaite une bonne journee
eric
hi
je suis a ha noi<
j y cherche un travail
je pense que tu as raison aussi. n'oublies pas, je suis a la fois europeen et asiatique. je peux dire ce genre de chose aux europeens. par contre je dirai aux asiatiques qu il ont l esprit fermé par la peur des etrangers.
j espere qu un jour ces choses changerons, mais cela prendra du temps et necessitera de gros changements préalables...
j'avais bine percu que tu etais eurasien , mais tu as raison de rester confiant il faut du temps pour s'apprivoiser apres tant d'echec .
la peur est lie a la culture , et ce n'est pas demain que cela changera , c'est en decouvrant que l'on se forge , c'est facile a dire pur nmous autres europeen , quiavons passer le binome " travail -maison " pour nous ouvrir l'esprit par un mode tertaire l'art et la culture , qu fait la force et les interrogations sur notre vie et sa decouverte , qui vont de pair avec l'art dans tousles sens de lavie .
ce n'est encore leur cas , en asie qui sont capter et captiver par leur reussite et leur image , passer ce binome aussi triste qu'il vous enferme dans unmonde sans fioriture et amusement , alors oui il verront la vie , differemement , regardes les artistes , ils ont un oeil ouvert et neuf sur lemonde . c'est de ca que je parle , de la curiosite et non pas de cette peur .
eric
re bon jour
je vois que tu comprend bien ce type de choses.
pour moi cela est difficile a vivre. lorsque je suis parti pour mes études ma mère m a dit" ne vas pas en chine, tu vas devenir fou"
maintenant je pense qu elle avait raison; mais c est trop tard; je sis parti et jai étudié a beijing.
pour le binone boulot maison et l art , ca me fait penser a l histoire de mon ami wang guandong. il voulait aller etudier le cinéma en belgique et apprendre le francais pour s'ouvrir l estprit, mais la mere de sa copine l a dissuader de continuer en lui disant que si il voulait sa fille, il ne devait pas perder son temps a des conneries mais devenir lle plus riche businessman de la chine... maintenant c est ce qu il fait , mais ca marchera pas car c est ce que 200.OOO.OOO de jeunes font en ce moment!
il a perdu son reve... c set triste.
enfin
je ne connais pas la situation en thailande mais ca semble proche de la chine.
dans une certaine mesure les kinh(viets) sont pareils mais je pense que peut etre l interlude francais a changer la donne...
j ai trainé au laos et la, cest un peu différent car leur développement se fait a travers ce qu ils percoivent de la thailande.je pense qu a terme ils deviendrons comme les thais...
pour les khmers je ne sais pas car j ai encore jamais ete au cambodge
hello luck
je vois que l'onest sur la meme longueur d'onde , et oui l'argent ne participe pas totalement au bonheur , des choses que l'on realise a present sur le vbieux continent et qui doivent encore faire leur preuve par ici . Affaire de culture .
c'est encore une pensee totalement abstraite que l'art et sa volonte a vous ouvrir l'horizon . alors que l'argent semble si reeeeel , il participe a la reussite social , et engendre les jalousies .
je ne megote sur l'argent mais en faire le seul moteur d'une societe , il ya la une limite a ne pas atteindre , voir le message poster auparavent par une expat au vietnam, ils se volent entre eux , belle mentalitee , corruption de l'esprit que celle de la cupidite de l'argent roi .
ne te fais pas souci le laos , a petit pas rejoins son voisin certes le tourisme ne sera jamais aussi important car le cadre ne s'y prete pas , manque de plages , plus acces sur la culture , mais qu'importe .
le vietnam a touche trop rapidement mais si naturellement l'economie de marche et les derives qui vont de pair dans une ouverture trop rapide . mais ce n'est pas leur faute . on as tous envie de s'elever .
aplus eric
oui t az raison, parfois les orientaux ont l esprit un peu obtu , mais les falang aussi: hier j ai rencontré une fille francaise qui a fait un mois de stage ici a ha noi mais malgré tout son esprit est resté désesperément bouché...
enfin....
tu fais quoi mec a Mukdahan???? je ny ai jamais ete, juste apercu de l'autre coté du fleuve! en tout cas ca a lait plus animé que savan!!!!!!
奥利文
Un jour un chinois m’a dit : si tu veux apprendre la culture chinoise, apprend d’abord le chinois à l’université, ensuite vit et travaille en Chine pendant 10 ans et seulement à ce moment la tu commencera à comprendre un peu... Hier soir un vietnamien m’as dit à peu près la même chose...
Il m'a bien fallu plus de dix ans en France pour comprendre leur culture ...
Sinon t'as pas trouvé un clavier avec une touche Return au Vietnam ?
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Il m'a bien fallu plus de dix ans en France pour comprendre leur culture ...
Sinon t'as pas trouvé un clavier avec une touche Return au Vietnam ?
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Non mais paske ...
Sinon t'as pas trouvé un clavier avec une touche Return au Vietnam ?
désolé, je n ai pas compris cette phrase....hehe
désolé, je n ai pas compris cette phrase....hehe
j ai juste exprimé ma pensée.
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hi
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!