Rendre visite à un prisonnier américain
by Birman93
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
je suis nouvelle sur le forum et j'ai un grand dilemme, voilà j'ai mon meilleur ami qui est détenu aux USA depuis un certain temps, j'ai été le voir 5 fois l'année dernière pour des court séjours de 5 jours car les visites se font que le samedi -dimanche, avec passage à la douane américaine qui est comme vous devez le savoir très à cheval sur les questions, je ne leur ai jamais dit que j'allais voir un ami détenu, pensez-vous que ça craint si je leur dit la vérité plutôt que leur dire que je vais voir mon petit ami, j'ai un peu peur de tomber sur un officier très curieux et qui demande les coordonnées de ce fameux petit ami fictif, j'ai eu de la chance jusqu'à maintenant mais j'ai peur que la chance tourne ...
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Bonjour,
Je ne suis pas un expert mais je ne vois pas en quoi rendre visite à un prisonnier serait condamnable. Ce n'est pas vous qui êtes en prison, vous rendez visite à un proche qui a le droit de recevoir de la visite. Il s'agit d'un Etat de droit donc vous ne risquez rien en leur disant la vérité, peut-être vont-ils vous poser plus de questions mais ils ne pourront pas vous interdire l'entrée sous prétexte que vous allez rendre visite à un prisonnier !
Enfin, il est beaucoup plus dangereux de mentir aux douaniers comme a voulu le dire Néfer. S'ils vous demandent ce que vous venez faire, vous pouvez leur dire que vous rendez visite à un proche et s'ils vous demandent où celui-ci vit, vous devrez leur dire la vérité. Il ne faut surtout pas mentir car s'ils le découvrent, vous serez dans une situation très périlleuse. Peut-être même que votre ami incarcéré pourrait en subir les frais si jamais ils vous suspectent de manigancer des choses... Si vous n'avez rien à vous reprocher, dites-le.
Comment est-ce que vous faisiez par le passé ? Vous restiez vague (pas répréhensible) ou vous mentiez (répréhensible) ?
Je ne suis pas un expert mais je ne vois pas en quoi rendre visite à un prisonnier serait condamnable. Ce n'est pas vous qui êtes en prison, vous rendez visite à un proche qui a le droit de recevoir de la visite. Il s'agit d'un Etat de droit donc vous ne risquez rien en leur disant la vérité, peut-être vont-ils vous poser plus de questions mais ils ne pourront pas vous interdire l'entrée sous prétexte que vous allez rendre visite à un prisonnier !
Enfin, il est beaucoup plus dangereux de mentir aux douaniers comme a voulu le dire Néfer. S'ils vous demandent ce que vous venez faire, vous pouvez leur dire que vous rendez visite à un proche et s'ils vous demandent où celui-ci vit, vous devrez leur dire la vérité. Il ne faut surtout pas mentir car s'ils le découvrent, vous serez dans une situation très périlleuse. Peut-être même que votre ami incarcéré pourrait en subir les frais si jamais ils vous suspectent de manigancer des choses... Si vous n'avez rien à vous reprocher, dites-le.
Comment est-ce que vous faisiez par le passé ? Vous restiez vague (pas répréhensible) ou vous mentiez (répréhensible) ?
"On ne devient pas vieux pour avoir vécu un certain nombre d'années, on devient vieux parce qu'on a déserté son idéal. Les années rident la peau ; renoncer à son idéal ride l'âme." Douglas MacArthur
Perso je leur dirais la vérité puis tes voyages aux USA risquent d'éveiller des soupçons....
Je partage l'avis de YoungDreamer: pourquoi mentir? Il n'y a rien de mal (au contraire) à visiter un ami qui est incarcéré.
Si on te demande le but de ta visite, tu réponds: visiter un ami. Rien d'autre. Si on te demande plus de détails sur l'ami en question, alors là oui tu dois leur fournir la bonne info. Mais ne dis pas qu'il s'agit de ton amoureux si ce n'est qu'un ami...
Nikky
Si on te demande le but de ta visite, tu réponds: visiter un ami. Rien d'autre. Si on te demande plus de détails sur l'ami en question, alors là oui tu dois leur fournir la bonne info. Mais ne dis pas qu'il s'agit de ton amoureux si ce n'est qu'un ami...
Nikky
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Bonjour,
Moi je ne leur dirais pas la vérité, juste que vous venez rendre visite a un ami point. si ils veulent l'adresse de l'ami en question recherchez sur google une adresse qui existe bien dans la ville ou vous allez de toute façon ils ne vont venir vérifier si vous y êtes bien. Je dis cela car parfois certain douaniers peuvent être très c** et faire du zêle inutilement, en 2011 quand je m'y suis rendue pour un voyage ils m'ont demandé ce que je faisais dans la vie (a l'époque j'étais sans emploi) j'ai donc dit la vérité ne voyant pas ou étais le mal de ne pas avoir de travail, et bien mon passeport a été confisqué et je me suis retrouvée dans un bureau de l'immigration ! j'y ai passé qq heures complétement stressée, on m'a interrogé comme si j'étais une criminelle (pourquoi je viens aux USA, ou j'ai trouvé l'argent pour me payer mon billet d'avion....) alors que si j'avais mentie en inventant n'importe quel métier je serais passé sans souci. Bref tout ça pour dire que parfois toute les vérités ne sont pas bonne à dire, ils pourraient vous soupsçonner de préparer je ne sais quel trafic avec ce prisonnier, ils ont l'esprit tordu. Mieux vaut fournir des réponses toute prête et qui rentre dans le moule.
Bon voyage
Moi je ne leur dirais pas la vérité, juste que vous venez rendre visite a un ami point. si ils veulent l'adresse de l'ami en question recherchez sur google une adresse qui existe bien dans la ville ou vous allez de toute façon ils ne vont venir vérifier si vous y êtes bien. Je dis cela car parfois certain douaniers peuvent être très c** et faire du zêle inutilement, en 2011 quand je m'y suis rendue pour un voyage ils m'ont demandé ce que je faisais dans la vie (a l'époque j'étais sans emploi) j'ai donc dit la vérité ne voyant pas ou étais le mal de ne pas avoir de travail, et bien mon passeport a été confisqué et je me suis retrouvée dans un bureau de l'immigration ! j'y ai passé qq heures complétement stressée, on m'a interrogé comme si j'étais une criminelle (pourquoi je viens aux USA, ou j'ai trouvé l'argent pour me payer mon billet d'avion....) alors que si j'avais mentie en inventant n'importe quel métier je serais passé sans souci. Bref tout ça pour dire que parfois toute les vérités ne sont pas bonne à dire, ils pourraient vous soupsçonner de préparer je ne sais quel trafic avec ce prisonnier, ils ont l'esprit tordu. Mieux vaut fournir des réponses toute prête et qui rentre dans le moule.
Bon voyage
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on m'a interrogé comme si j'étais une criminelle (pourquoi je viens aux USA, ou j'ai trouvé l'argent pour me payer mon billet d'avion....)
Ce n'est pas être interrogée comme une criminelle que te demander les raisons de ta visite chez eux et connaître les sources de tes revenus...
Je dis cela car parfois certain douaniers peuvent être très c** et faire du zêle inutilement, en 2011 quand je m'y suis rendue pour un voyage ils m'ont demandé ce que je faisais dans la vie (a l'époque j'étais sans emploi)
Si tu étais sans emploi, tu devais normalement être en train de chercher activement du boulot chez toi au lieu de jouer les touristes 😛😛
Ce n'est pas être interrogée comme une criminelle que te demander les raisons de ta visite chez eux et connaître les sources de tes revenus...
Je dis cela car parfois certain douaniers peuvent être très c** et faire du zêle inutilement, en 2011 quand je m'y suis rendue pour un voyage ils m'ont demandé ce que je faisais dans la vie (a l'époque j'étais sans emploi)
Si tu étais sans emploi, tu devais normalement être en train de chercher activement du boulot chez toi au lieu de jouer les touristes 😛😛
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Pour qui te prends tu a me donner des leçons je ne me suis pas étalée sur ma situation en détail, j'avais signé un contrat qui démarrait le mois suivant je n'avais plus a chercher. C'est dingue les gens demande des avis et se permette de juger. Et tu n'étais pas avec moi dans le bureau quand j'ai été interrogée !!!!! Débrouilles toi toute seule si l'avis des autres ne t'intéresses pas!
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On se calme le pompon un peu 😉 Tu as pris ma remarque un peu trop au sérieux!
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Désolée j'ai répondue a nikky pensant que c'était elle qui était a l'origine du post je me suis rendue compte après que c'était birman93. Bref nikky n'a pas a apporter de jugement hâtif ne connaissant rien de la situation des gens.
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Rappelez-vous que rentrer dans un pays étranger est un privilège.... et non un droit.
ils vous laisseront rentrer à leurs conditions et au moindre doute...c'est pour vous ''demi tour vers chez-vous.....
La vie est trop belle pour être petite.
Je dirais la vérité mais pas plus qu'ils en demandent : Tu vas voir ton copain point.
S'ils demandent où il demeure; Tu mentionnes la ville point.
Et on continu comme ça .Toujours la vérité mais pas plus que demandé.
Aller voir un prisonnier n'est pas illégal mais des douanier obtus peuvent abuser de leur pouvoir.
S'ils demandent où il demeure; Tu mentionnes la ville point.
Et on continu comme ça .Toujours la vérité mais pas plus que demandé.
Aller voir un prisonnier n'est pas illégal mais des douanier obtus peuvent abuser de leur pouvoir.
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
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Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.