Retour de Birmanie et premières impressions (novembre 2010)
by FlatR31
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour à vous,
Eh oui nous venons tout juste de rentrer de notre périple birman et je tenais à vous balancer en vrac nos premières impressions à chaud. Après, avec le recul je pourrais vous en dire plus et mieux.
Avant tout je tenais à remercier christofe (qui a le bonjour de mawtoo) et tous les autres ... pour leurs bons conseils. A moi maintenant à en donner dans la mesure de mes compétences (un ti'clin d'oeil à mafate974 il peut me contacter directement s'il le souhaite).
Donc 4 semaines c'est déjà pas mal pour faire Rangoon (2j), Mandalay (4j), Monywa (2j), Bagan (5j), lac Inlé (5j) et Kentung (7j) et retour sur Rangoon.
J'ai apprécié de le faire dans ce sens là, intéressant car il s'est composé en 2 parties, une partie visite de sites historiques avec Mandalay et Bagan et ensuite une partie plus accès sur la vie économique et sociale avec le lac Inlé et Kengtung.
Un vrai bonheur que ce voyage avec de véritables rencontres (mariage dans un village de potiers ...) et ces imprévus (lecture de viscères de porc par un chaman du village ....) qui nous ont fait vivre de grands moments magiques.
Aujourd'hui je pense que ce voyage fait partie de nos plus beaux mais également des plus difficiles mais que cela vaut le coup.
Maintenant je compte faire un compte rendu plus détaillé de mes rencontres et de mes déceptions.
Avant tout accessit pour Peacock lodge à Manadalay qui reste toujours aussi bien.
Un vrai bonheur chez Princess garden hotel à Nyaungshwe (connu et fréquenté que par des allemands) A nous maintenant de profiter de cette excellente adresse ou les proprio sont charmants et très hospitaliers. Je ferais un post spécial plus tard avec tous les renseignements.
Par contre le three seasons à Rangoon ne mérite plus de s'y arrêter (ne font pas se qu'ils disent et pratiquent le sur booking)
et le harry tekking de Kentung trop éloigné du centre ville mais comme le prix est bon marché cela compense le désagrément.
Pas la peine de s'encombrer de dollars qui n'est pas très intéressant niveau change l'euro reste une valeur sure pour le moment. Par contre les hotels se payent toujours en dollars mais pour tout le reste le change euros -> kyats et paiement des services en monnaie locale.
bonne lecture et surtout bon voyage
et pour nous bonne digestion et que déjà nous pensons à notre prochain voyage le cambodge et le nord vietnam
bernard et gene
Ont attend la suite 😉
Quel est le taux de change actuel? Euro et USD merci....
Quel est le taux de change actuel? Euro et USD merci....
S.D
salut vivlavie,
Pour le change les taux variaient selon le lieu cad a Rangoon le change était plus intéressant qu'à Mandalay et Bagan voire Lac Inlé mais pour être pragmatique disons que l'US se changeait entre 820 et 850kst et l'euro entre 1120 et 1150 kts. Attention le change était plus intéressant sur les grosses coupures (50 et 100$ que sur les 20,5 et 1$) Par contre pour les euros pas de distinctions. Les changes sont très intéressant dans les hotels du coup je ne l'ai jamais fait au niveau des banques.
Maintenant faire attention si on vous propose a Rangoon des taux bien au delà du taux c'est une arnaque au niveau du comptage des billets. Si on vous le propose fuyez et ne vous retournez pas. Vous serez gagnant.
Avec un tel change, les birmans avaient tendance à ne plus vouloir être payé en $ mais plutot en kts sauf dans les hotels où la monnaie d'échange restait toujours le $. Pourquoi? I don't known....
Bernard et Gene
😎 merci de votre retour ...
J' attends votre Cr détaillé avec envie ...
Le Three Seasons n 'est plus top ? vous confimez ?
Merci pour le taux de change c est sympa d avoir une idée actuelle ...
Pas trop de soucis suite aux élections ?
chris06
Même question que précédemment, ne faut-il pas garder quelques coupures en Dollars au cas ou on se voit refuser le paiement en Kyat ou la monnaie locale est-elle toujours et partout acceptée ??
Bonjour,
Ravi que votre séjour se soit bien passé. Content aussi d'avoir des nouvelles de Maw Htoo de Kengtung. Pour ma part, le retour en Birmanie est prévu fin décembre, j'ai hâte d'y être.
Ravi que votre séjour se soit bien passé. Content aussi d'avoir des nouvelles de Maw Htoo de Kengtung. Pour ma part, le retour en Birmanie est prévu fin décembre, j'ai hâte d'y être.
Il n'y a aucun pb, GH ou Hotels, les entrées des sites et les compagnies aeriennes tous vous proposerons leurs services en devises US. Ce que je n'arrive pas à m'expliquer, je suppose que c'est une mesure du gouvernement. Ce qui a changé par contre c'est le monnaiement de services divers tels que le taxi, et la plus part des guides, tout se monnaye en kyats, la cause à la dévaluation du $US qui n'est plus aussi favorable. Bien entendu si vous n'avez que des $US, il vous ferons la conversion. Ce que je pourrais vous suggérer à tous et ce que j'aurais pu faire si j'avais su c'est de prendre assez de $US pour uniquement les services qui peuvent se payer dans cette devise et prendre ensuite que des euros qui ont un meilleur change et de le faire à Rangoon où le change est plus avantageux que partout ailleurs. C'est vrai que vous allez vous trimbaler un paquet de pognons mais les kyats ou le reste .....
En résumé, il y a quelques temps de cela tout pouvait se payer en $US exclusivement car le change était avantageux pour les 2 parties sauf que maintenant les birmans préfèrent monnayer leurs services en kyats
ps à Christofe : Maw too t'attend de pied ferme.
ps à Christofe : Maw too t'attend de pied ferme.
salut
Je ne peux pas vraiment répondre exactement à ton questionnement puisque je n'ai pas voyagé routard, j'ai besoin de mon petit confort et je choisissais toujours des petits hotels entre 15 et 25$US en chambre double.
Maintenant en routard il faut que tu comptes entre 10 et 15 $US pour une chambre et entre 5 et 10€ par jour pour manger et boire correctement.
Il faut compter également les trajets en bus bien entendu c'est pas cher mais très long et fatiguant et les entrées de sites et les guides ....
Maintenant ce n'est qu'un ordre d'idée, tu peux faire en moins cher aussi.
bernard
ça fait donc environ 550 euros pour 35 jours soit 15 euros /j
donc : pas d avion , déplacements en bus ....ça devrait passer ...mais en restant très strict sur tes dépenses !
chris06
Merci à vous deux ; le budget en lui-même n'est pas une limite insurmontable (j'ai de solides économies), mais c'est surtout sur le montant du cash à transporter sur soi-même que je me penche. J'aimerais bien sûr qu'il soit le plus bas possible, mais sans risquer de devoir me priver, étant donné qu'un "renflouement" sur place sera impossible du fait de l'impossibilité d'utiliser des cartes bancaires ! J'ai trouvé des DAB partout durant mon tour du monde, mais la Birma est le seul pays qui me pose ce genre de problèmes.
Cette question a été posée maintes fois et la réponse est toujours la même :
paiement en dollars dans la plupart des hôtels/guesthouses - quelques fois en kyats, mais jamais en euros qui n'est toujours pas accepté en paiement. Par contre le change € - kyats se fait sans problème.
Prenez soin d'avoir des coupures en parfait état, quasiment neufs, sans inscription, sans pli, sans tâche, etc. sinon, ils ne seront pas acceptés.
En Birmanie, le billet vert reste la valeur sûre, même s'il a perdu beaucoup de sa valeur depuis quelques temps.
paiement en dollars dans la plupart des hôtels/guesthouses - quelques fois en kyats, mais jamais en euros qui n'est toujours pas accepté en paiement. Par contre le change € - kyats se fait sans problème.
Prenez soin d'avoir des coupures en parfait état, quasiment neufs, sans inscription, sans pli, sans tâche, etc. sinon, ils ne seront pas acceptés.
En Birmanie, le billet vert reste la valeur sûre, même s'il a perdu beaucoup de sa valeur depuis quelques temps.
Merci à vous deux ; le budget en lui-même n'est pas une limite insurmontable (j'ai de solides économies), mais c'est surtout sur le montant du cash à transporter sur soi-même que je me penche. J'aimerais bien sûr qu'il soit le plus bas possible, mais sans risquer de devoir me priver, étant donné qu'un "renflouement" sur place sera impossible du fait de l'impossibilité d'utiliser des cartes bancaires ! J'ai trouvé des DAB partout durant mon tour du monde, mais la Birma est le seul pays qui me pose ce genre de problèmes.
Tu as parfaitement raison ! Si tu n'es pas short en budget amènes un peu plus quitte à revenir avec du pognon , car une fois sur place pas de moyen de se renflouer
Tu as parfaitement raison ! Si tu n'es pas short en budget amènes un peu plus quitte à revenir avec du pognon , car une fois sur place pas de moyen de se renflouer
chris06
Pour te rassurer, si nécessaire, je porte mon argent dans une pochette ultra plate dans laquelle je mets les billets verts ou autres dans un petite fourre en plastique - humidité oblige - et que je porte directement sous mes vêtements, sur les lombaires (pas sur le ventre, c'est gênant lorsque l'on s'assied).😏😏
Jamais eu de problème, en tout cas pas en Birmanie qui reste un pays où les vols ne sont pas courants.
Jamais eu de problème, en tout cas pas en Birmanie qui reste un pays où les vols ne sont pas courants.
Pourquoi changer de grosses sommes en kyats ??? je change env. 100$ pour un séjour de 28 jours et si nécessaire, je change encore une fois. La plupart du temps, je paie en $, à part dans les restaurants locaux et sur les petits marchés.....
Je n'ai jamais au retour changer des kyats en $ ou €, mais quelque chose me dit que ce ne doit pas être possible, à part peut être sur le grand marché de Rangoun.
Je garde les kyats restants pour un prochain voyage, et voilà le tour est joué 😏
Je garde les kyats restants pour un prochain voyage, et voilà le tour est joué 😏
Bonjour,
Merci pour cette première approche, et j'attends aussi + de détails ensuite sur "peut-etre" l'itinéraire, les guesthouses choisies, les coups de coeur ....
Juste une question, concernant les guesthouses :
j'ai besoin de mon petit confort et je choisissais toujours des petits hotels entre 15 et 25$US en chambre double.
dans cette catégorie, sont-elles avec douche et WC privatifs, et le petit déjeuner est-il inclus dans ce tarif ? La plupart des hébergements choisis, sont-ils dans le LP, ou adresse donnée sur le forum ?
Pour se restaurer :
5 et 10€ par jour pour manger et boire correctement
est-ce par personne ou pour le couple ?
Si, je demande tout cela, c'est pour faire une évaluation du budget à prévoir pour nos 28jours sur place.
Merci, et à bientot 😎
Merci pour cette première approche, et j'attends aussi + de détails ensuite sur "peut-etre" l'itinéraire, les guesthouses choisies, les coups de coeur ....
Juste une question, concernant les guesthouses :
j'ai besoin de mon petit confort et je choisissais toujours des petits hotels entre 15 et 25$US en chambre double.
dans cette catégorie, sont-elles avec douche et WC privatifs, et le petit déjeuner est-il inclus dans ce tarif ? La plupart des hébergements choisis, sont-ils dans le LP, ou adresse donnée sur le forum ?
Pour se restaurer :
5 et 10€ par jour pour manger et boire correctement
est-ce par personne ou pour le couple ?
Si, je demande tout cela, c'est pour faire une évaluation du budget à prévoir pour nos 28jours sur place.
Merci, et à bientot 😎
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Evelyne
Evelyne
Pourquoi changer de grosses sommes en kyats ??? je change env. 100$ pour un séjour de 28 jours et si nécessaire, je change encore une fois. La plupart du temps, je paie en $, à part dans les restaurants locaux et sur les petits marchés.....
D'une part car il est connu que les meilleurs taux se trouvent à Yangon, d'autre part car je prévois quelques semaines hors des "sentiers battus", loin de Bagan, Inlé et autres. Et dans ces endroits, tout doit se négocier en kyats 😉 Bref, je pense que nous avons tous compris l'impératif du "mix", chacun se fait ensuite sa petite salade 😛
D'une part car il est connu que les meilleurs taux se trouvent à Yangon, d'autre part car je prévois quelques semaines hors des "sentiers battus", loin de Bagan, Inlé et autres. Et dans ces endroits, tout doit se négocier en kyats 😉 Bref, je pense que nous avons tous compris l'impératif du "mix", chacun se fait ensuite sa petite salade 😛
Pour cette catégorie de prix, tu as tout le confort. Quelques fois cependant le petit déjeuner n'est pas inclus. D'autre part, il existe d'autres adresses qui ne sont pas indiquées dans les guides connus et qui sont tout aussi intéressantes. A toi de les découvrir et de faire ton choix.
Pour les restaurants, cela dépend où tu désires manger. Personnellement je mange local et cela ne me coût pas plus de 1 à 3$. Maintenant si tu prends de la bière tu la paieras plus cher que ton repas !!!😕
Pour les restaurants, cela dépend où tu désires manger. Personnellement je mange local et cela ne me coût pas plus de 1 à 3$. Maintenant si tu prends de la bière tu la paieras plus cher que ton repas !!!😕
Merci Clavdia, pour ta réponse sur la catégorie et budget hôtel, et c'est vrai que souvent, à force d'être cité dans les guides, les hôtels se relâchent, ou affiche complet, et l'on trouve une aussi bonne adresse à coté et moins chère.
Je me sers beaucoup des guides, pour me situer dans le quartier ou je veux descendre, après, à moi la visite des guesthouses.🤪😇
J'ai de quoi calculer maintenant et je t'en remercie.
Je me sers beaucoup des guides, pour me situer dans le quartier ou je veux descendre, après, à moi la visite des guesthouses.🤪😇
J'ai de quoi calculer maintenant et je t'en remercie.
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Evelyne
Evelyne
salut
Durant notre séjour nous avons toujours choisi des hotels/GH dont les prix variaient de 15 à 25$US et pour ce prix chambre double et petits déjeuners. Bien entendu certains valent le détour et d'autres qu'on s'en détourne. Je refais ici mon récapitulatif :
Rangoon : Three seasons pas cher sur le LP sauf qu'il pratique le sur booking. Au départ j'avais réservé au Haven Inn et je me suis retrouvé au Three seasons dans une minuscule chambre sans fenêtre. J'ai rencontré une personne qui avait réservé dans cette GH et qu'on a envoyé dans une GH minable. pas top.
Mandalay : Fait partie des coups de coeur du voyage Peacock Lodge, légèrement excentré mais tenu par toute une famille toujours prête à vous rendre service. Excellent petit déjeuner .
Moniwa : obligé de prendre un hotel privé car le choix était plutôt restreint soit un hotel minable soit un hotel gouvernemental.
Bagan : La j avoue que j'aurais peut être mieux fait, j'ai voulu aller à New Bagan pour être plus près des sites et admirer les sunrise et les sunshine mais d'un autre coté j'étais très loin des animations de la ville et des restaurants, le soir j'étais obligé de prendre la calèche pour sortir.
Lac Inlé (Nyaungshwe): La révélation, Princess Garden que je mettrais en numéro un de mes coups de coeur. Pas connu sauf par la colonie allemande. Un vrai bijou. Un peit déjeuner copieux. Un personnel toujours là pour vous rendre mille et un petits services. Des bungalows dessimés dans un écrin de verdure. Bref le paradis. Et en plus, les proprios vous offrent un jus de fruits frais à toute heure à la demande et la location des vélos gratos. Un vrai bonheur.
Kengtung : Pas trop de choix. Une première nuit chez Harry's trekking une GH modeste le prix aussi sauf que nous étions très éloignés du centre ville pas très commode pour se déplacer. Toutes les personnes qui ont séjourné comme nous dans cette GH ont très rapidement migré vers le centre ville. Nous avons préféré Law Ye chain, hotel modeste mais propre et correct.
Maintenant peut être que nous y étions pendant une période creuse pour le tourisme mais nous avons pratiquement toujours discuté les prix des séjours, il faut dire que la plus part du temps nous y restions 3 à 5 nuits selon l'étape. Cela nous a coûtait par nuit et par couple petit déjeuner compris entre 15$ US pour le moins cher et 25$US pour le plus cher
Maintenant pour les repas c'est pas cher si tu consommes local ce qui nous coûtait le plus cher c'était la bière. On arrivait à payer environ à 5000 kyats par repas pour 2 personnes...
Voilà j'espère avoir répondu a tes attentes.
Bon voyage
bernard et Gene
Bonsoir,
Merci beaucoup pour tes adresses. J'ai TOUTnoté 😊
Concernant Kengtung, quel a été ton programme la-bas, et as-tu eu recours à un guide si tu as fait des treks ? Combien de jours y es-tu resté, et cela a t'il été suffisant ?
J'ai lu qu'il n'y avait que 3 liaisons avion par semaine entre Hého et Kengtung. Connais-tu les jours ? Et, pour retourner de Kengtung à Rangon, est-ce la même chose ?
Merci pour les précisions, qui m'aideront à finaliser mon parcours, qui sera toujours modifiable sur place. 😉
Merci beaucoup pour tes adresses. J'ai TOUTnoté 😊
Concernant Kengtung, quel a été ton programme la-bas, et as-tu eu recours à un guide si tu as fait des treks ? Combien de jours y es-tu resté, et cela a t'il été suffisant ?
J'ai lu qu'il n'y avait que 3 liaisons avion par semaine entre Hého et Kengtung. Connais-tu les jours ? Et, pour retourner de Kengtung à Rangon, est-ce la même chose ?
Merci pour les précisions, qui m'aideront à finaliser mon parcours, qui sera toujours modifiable sur place. 😉
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Evelyne
Evelyne
Ont attend la suite 😉
Quel est le taux de change actuel? Euro et USD merci....
En novembre 2010 le taux était de 890 kyats/dollar dans une boutique de l'hôtel Park View, Yangon.
Quel est le taux de change actuel? Euro et USD merci....
En novembre 2010 le taux était de 890 kyats/dollar dans une boutique de l'hôtel Park View, Yangon.
C'est bien ce que j'ai dit il vaut mieux changer à Yangoon (Rangoon) que partout ailleurs. Maintenant il faut savoir si c'était début ou fin novembre car fin novembre j'ai changé à 850 en grosse coupure de $US et 820/ en petites coupures. Le mieux c'est de ne changer que des € et utiliser les $US pour les hotels et entrées de sites exclusivement.
C'était le 21 novembre, hôtel Park View, 18 heures, la dernière boutique au fond à droite, coupures de 20 et 50 USD.
Par contre le three seasons à Rangoon ne mérite plus de s'y arrêter (ne font pas se qu'ils disent et pratiquent le sur booking)
Pas la peine de s'encombrer de dollars qui n'est pas très intéressant niveau change l'euro reste une valeur sure pour le moment. Par contre les hotels se payent toujours en dollars mais pour tout le reste le change euros -> kyats et paiement des services en monnaie locale.
pour le Three seasons, je recommande fortement de conserver un accord écrit des tarifs chambre et pick-up (mail par exemple) car alors que tout s'était bien passé, au moment de payer la chambre était 5USD plus chère et le taxi 50% plus cher sous pretexte que ce n'était pas "le taxi de l'hôtel" (10 au lieu de 7dollars)... or nous étions 2 couples récupérés à l'aéroport avec le meme taxi et qui avions payé chacun un taxi "privé"... Nous avions heureusement un document et, après avoir bien maugréé, le garçon à la réception nous a fait payer les prix convenus. la chambre était correcte, la salle de bains équipée de wc rafistolé. Nous avons profité de l'emplacement (un peu éloigné du centre) pour visiter les sites du coin mais nous avons pris un autre hôtel pour notre retour sur Yangon avant le départ.
Pour les Dollars, il faut malheureusement toujours en avoir pour les hotels, les avions, les taxes et certains bateaux, ce qui représente tout de même le budget le plus important! Pour le reste les Euro se changent sans problème.
Pas la peine de s'encombrer de dollars qui n'est pas très intéressant niveau change l'euro reste une valeur sure pour le moment. Par contre les hotels se payent toujours en dollars mais pour tout le reste le change euros -> kyats et paiement des services en monnaie locale.
pour le Three seasons, je recommande fortement de conserver un accord écrit des tarifs chambre et pick-up (mail par exemple) car alors que tout s'était bien passé, au moment de payer la chambre était 5USD plus chère et le taxi 50% plus cher sous pretexte que ce n'était pas "le taxi de l'hôtel" (10 au lieu de 7dollars)... or nous étions 2 couples récupérés à l'aéroport avec le meme taxi et qui avions payé chacun un taxi "privé"... Nous avions heureusement un document et, après avoir bien maugréé, le garçon à la réception nous a fait payer les prix convenus. la chambre était correcte, la salle de bains équipée de wc rafistolé. Nous avons profité de l'emplacement (un peu éloigné du centre) pour visiter les sites du coin mais nous avons pris un autre hôtel pour notre retour sur Yangon avant le départ.
Pour les Dollars, il faut malheureusement toujours en avoir pour les hotels, les avions, les taxes et certains bateaux, ce qui représente tout de même le budget le plus important! Pour le reste les Euro se changent sans problème.
Pareil pour le Three Season
je ne vous recommande PAS cet hotel
nous sommes arrivés un soir de forte pluie sur Rangoon , certes mais :
- le chauffeur prévu à l aéroport n était pas là !
- la chambre réservée pour 3 nuits n était pas disponible !
On s est rabattus sur le Yoma en centre ville , bien mieux situé et fiable pour ses réservations
je ne vous recommande PAS cet hotel
nous sommes arrivés un soir de forte pluie sur Rangoon , certes mais :
- le chauffeur prévu à l aéroport n était pas là !
- la chambre réservée pour 3 nuits n était pas disponible !
On s est rabattus sur le Yoma en centre ville , bien mieux situé et fiable pour ses réservations
chris06
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Ou alors je suis mal tombé dans mes recherches. J'ai contacté Panida Ladi très populaire sur les forums . On s'était mis d'accord sur un circuit privé qui collait a ma demande (départ de l'embarcadere à 8h00....., circuit très personalisé). On s'est mis d'accord sur le circuit et le prix, m'a demandé un virement par wise pour un acompte de 30%, a confirmé la réception de l'acompte . Puis 30mn plus tard m'a envoyé un message pour me dire qu'elle annulait tout car il lui était impossible de faire le tour demandé, et m'a promis le remboursement rapide de mon acompte.
J'en viens donc à ma demande : Qui a fait un vrai tour privé sur ce lac ? Qui peut me conseiller une agence sérieuse ? Est il vraiment possible de faire un tour privé en fait sur ce lac....
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Donc en fait on paye cher un Private tour pour faire la mm chose que tt le monde et en mm temps.
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J'en viens donc à ma demande : Qui a fait un vrai tour privé sur ce lac ? Qui peut me conseiller une agence sérieuse ? Est il vraiment possible de faire un tour privé en fait sur ce lac....
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Have a great Sunday!
Martine
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.






