je viens de passer deux semaines en thailande .je m'ai pas vraiment etait eblouis.certes apres avoir visité le shri lanka, le vietnan, le nepal.j ai trouvé que ce pays sans veritable couleur ni chaleur seulement tres en pointe pour plumer les touristes.la taxe qui du jour au lendemain passe de 500 a 700 baths.les plages sales.ou le gouvernement redistribut il l'argent de ce tourisme.la norvege qui designe la thailande comme meilleure destination je rigole d'accord si on accepte tous ces vieux de 60ans bedonnant en compagnie de jeunes filles a pattaya.et tous ceux qui distribue leur fric a tous va, a tous vent sans qu'ils ce rendent compte dans quellle misere ces gens peuvent se retrouver en cas de difficulté qu ils se rapellent 1996 ou le baths a etait devalué tous ces gens dont la maison a etait saisie ne pouvant plus payer .tous ceci reste mon opinion.mais je n'encouragerais personne a visiter la thailande.bonne journée
Retour de Thaïlande
by Feroce05
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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jour a tous
je viens de passer deux semaines en thailande .je m'ai pas vraiment etait eblouis.certes apres avoir visité le shri lanka, le vietnan, le nepal.j ai trouvé que ce pays sans veritable couleur ni chaleur seulement tres en pointe pour plumer les touristes.la taxe qui du jour au lendemain passe de 500 a 700 baths.les plages sales.ou le gouvernement redistribut il l'argent de ce tourisme.la norvege qui designe la thailande comme meilleure destination je rigole d'accord si on accepte tous ces vieux de 60ans bedonnant en compagnie de jeunes filles a pattaya.et tous ceux qui distribue leur fric a tous va, a tous vent sans qu'ils ce rendent compte dans quellle misere ces gens peuvent se retrouver en cas de difficulté qu ils se rapellent 1996 ou le baths a etait devalué tous ces gens dont la maison a etait saisie ne pouvant plus payer .tous ceci reste mon opinion.mais je n'encouragerais personne a visiter la thailande.bonne journée
je viens de passer deux semaines en thailande .je m'ai pas vraiment etait eblouis.certes apres avoir visité le shri lanka, le vietnan, le nepal.j ai trouvé que ce pays sans veritable couleur ni chaleur seulement tres en pointe pour plumer les touristes.la taxe qui du jour au lendemain passe de 500 a 700 baths.les plages sales.ou le gouvernement redistribut il l'argent de ce tourisme.la norvege qui designe la thailande comme meilleure destination je rigole d'accord si on accepte tous ces vieux de 60ans bedonnant en compagnie de jeunes filles a pattaya.et tous ceux qui distribue leur fric a tous va, a tous vent sans qu'ils ce rendent compte dans quellle misere ces gens peuvent se retrouver en cas de difficulté qu ils se rapellent 1996 ou le baths a etait devalué tous ces gens dont la maison a etait saisie ne pouvant plus payer .tous ceci reste mon opinion.mais je n'encouragerais personne a visiter la thailande.bonne journée
Bonjour,
je suis désolé que tu n'ai pas apprécié la thailande mais peut être aurait tu du préparer ton voyage un petit peu plus...
En effet, tu parles de plages sales et de vieux bedonnants et après tu cites pattaya...
Tu serais venu sur vf auparavant, tu aurais EU des bons plans autrement bien plus intéressants que pattaya...
je suis désolé que tu n'ai pas apprécié la thailande mais peut être aurait tu du préparer ton voyage un petit peu plus...
En effet, tu parles de plages sales et de vieux bedonnants et après tu cites pattaya...
Tu serais venu sur vf auparavant, tu aurais EU des bons plans autrement bien plus intéressants que pattaya...
tu as du te tromper !
tu n'étais pas en thailande mais à la grande motte😏😏
pour dénigrer un pays comme tu viens de le faire, il faut l'avoir parcouru du nord au sud, et je crois que tu n'a vu qu'un millième de celui ci, et malheureusement le mauvais! dommage pour toi, tu es passé à coté d'un superbe pays !!!!
pour dénigrer un pays comme tu viens de le faire, il faut l'avoir parcouru du nord au sud, et je crois que tu n'a vu qu'un millième de celui ci, et malheureusement le mauvais! dommage pour toi, tu es passé à coté d'un superbe pays !!!!
trouver son chemin personnel a travers le chemin initiatique du voyage
Je vais etre plus indulgent que mes amis ci-dessus😉, je vais dire que je peux comprendre ce point de vue suivant les coins ou tu as debarque (et puis les gars.....tout le monde connait pas VF!!);
Maintenant, je crois q ton tour qu'il faille que tu aies un oeil "autre" sur la Thailande, deja parce qu'en 2 semaines tu ne PEUX PAS comprendre et connaitre le pays, ensuite parcequ'il ne faut pas faire des generalites de cas isoles !
Non, la Thailande n'est pas ce que tu en pense et ce que tu en dis, oui, elle n'est plus ce qu'elle a pu etre (mais quel pays est comme avant ? le Nepal .... as tu ete la ba il y a seulement 15 ans en arriere ?, le Viet Nam ? alors la je crois bien que tu te sois mis le doigt dans l'oeil) c'est marrant je sens dans ton message comme une envioe de tout voir et de tout faire, ce n'est aps cela ce qu'on appelle "consommer du voyage" ?
Arretons de vouloir rechercher l'authentique que son voisin n'a pas "encore" trouver, ce petit jeu est termine, arretons nous plutot sur les gens et leur ame, sur certains paysages encore epargnes ....
et encore une petite chose..... si tu en a l'occasion, reviens en Thailande et essayes de decouvrir ce que tu n'as pas eu le temps de voir ..🙂
bien amicalement
et encore une petite chose..... si tu en a l'occasion, reviens en Thailande et essayes de decouvrir ce que tu n'as pas eu le temps de voir ..🙂
bien amicalement
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
jour a tous
je viens de passer deux semaines en thailande .
ou ?
je viens de passer deux semaines en thailande .
ou ?
Salut🙂,
je crois qu il a passé au moins une semaine à Pattaya...🤪
A plus Lexa😎
je crois qu il a passé au moins une semaine à Pattaya...🤪
A plus Lexa😎
Loin de moi l’envie de critiquer ton point de vus que je respect. C’est la philosophie d’un forum.
Combien de temps es-tu resté en Thaïlande et quel a été ton circuit.
shri lanka, le vietnan, le nepal
Moi qui ai très peu voyagé, je sais à l’avance que ses trois pays n’ont rien è voir avec la Thaïlande. Pensais-tu retrouver le même arôme ?
😉
😉
Fungfungfung.com
eheheh, pourquoi tu me trouvais pas assez "sage" auparavant ? 😛
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
SALUT,
là tu y vas fort quand même......."mais je n'encouragerais personne à visiter la Thailande"!
j'ai passé plus de 15 j en thailande et je n'ai pas eu le " coup de foudre" moi non plus! Je pense avoir mal préparé mon voyage et être passée à coté de plein de choses, je ne sais pas trop en fait.....Par contre, je ne dénigrerai jamais cet encroit que je connais si peu. Je peux seulement dire que j'y ai fait des rencontres intéressantes et enrichissantes et c'est là l'essentiel ......c'est la raison pour laquelle je voyage : rencontrer des gens et échanger! Mes enfants se sont éclatés, le plus grand ( 5 ans)nous en parle souvent et est très triste de ne plus voir " ses copines thailandaises"😉! Là aussi, c l'essentiel, lui qui a été pas mal malade là bas n'a retenu que le coté positif de l'expérience et les bons souvenirs!
nb:Je suis passée il y a qq années au Sri LANKA voyage fabuleux, gens adorables, l'autre pays du sourire !!!
là tu y vas fort quand même......."mais je n'encouragerais personne à visiter la Thailande"!
j'ai passé plus de 15 j en thailande et je n'ai pas eu le " coup de foudre" moi non plus! Je pense avoir mal préparé mon voyage et être passée à coté de plein de choses, je ne sais pas trop en fait.....Par contre, je ne dénigrerai jamais cet encroit que je connais si peu. Je peux seulement dire que j'y ai fait des rencontres intéressantes et enrichissantes et c'est là l'essentiel ......c'est la raison pour laquelle je voyage : rencontrer des gens et échanger! Mes enfants se sont éclatés, le plus grand ( 5 ans)nous en parle souvent et est très triste de ne plus voir " ses copines thailandaises"😉! Là aussi, c l'essentiel, lui qui a été pas mal malade là bas n'a retenu que le coté positif de l'expérience et les bons souvenirs!
nb:Je suis passée il y a qq années au Sri LANKA voyage fabuleux, gens adorables, l'autre pays du sourire !!!
si on accepte tous ces vieux de 60ans bedonnant en compagnie de jeunes filles a pattaya.et tous ceux qui distribue leur fric a tous va, a tous vent sans qu'ils ce rendent compte dans quellle misere ces gens peuvent se retrouver en cas de difficulté qu ils se rapellent 1996 ou le baths a etait devalué tous ces gens dont la maison a etait saisie ne pouvant plus payer .tous ceci reste mon opinion.mais je n'encouragerais personne a visiter la thailande.bonne journée
Salut Féroce,
Je me permets d'intervenir, car je décèle chez toi un grand coeur en révolte. Je suis entièrement d'accord avec les précédentes réponses qui te disent que tu as probablement visité le "moins bon endroit de Thailande". En fait, si je lis bien "entre les lignes", tu es plus révolté par certains farangs et leur attitude plutôt que par le peuple thai. De là, je pense, les encouragements de ceux que l'on appelle ironiquement sur VF "les amoureux de la Thailande" à te faire revenir et visiter des endroits bien plus parlants et représentatifs.
Prends le temps de dormir quelques jours sur ta révolte tout à fait compréhensible et reviens nous raconter les petites choses agréables que tu as vécues là-bas, je suis certaine qu'en y réfléchissant bien, tu en trouveras... Rien qu'à lire les mots que j'ai surlignés, on se rend compte que ce n'est pas "après la Thailande" que tu es révolté, mais après une certaine catégorie de touristes et de nantis.
Au plaisir de te lire d'ici quelques temps et d'échanger avec toi les impressions positives que tu ne manqueras pas de retrouver en-dessous de ta colère actuelle.
Bonne journée, Pat
Salut Féroce,
Je me permets d'intervenir, car je décèle chez toi un grand coeur en révolte. Je suis entièrement d'accord avec les précédentes réponses qui te disent que tu as probablement visité le "moins bon endroit de Thailande". En fait, si je lis bien "entre les lignes", tu es plus révolté par certains farangs et leur attitude plutôt que par le peuple thai. De là, je pense, les encouragements de ceux que l'on appelle ironiquement sur VF "les amoureux de la Thailande" à te faire revenir et visiter des endroits bien plus parlants et représentatifs.
Prends le temps de dormir quelques jours sur ta révolte tout à fait compréhensible et reviens nous raconter les petites choses agréables que tu as vécues là-bas, je suis certaine qu'en y réfléchissant bien, tu en trouveras... Rien qu'à lire les mots que j'ai surlignés, on se rend compte que ce n'est pas "après la Thailande" que tu es révolté, mais après une certaine catégorie de touristes et de nantis.
Au plaisir de te lire d'ici quelques temps et d'échanger avec toi les impressions positives que tu ne manqueras pas de retrouver en-dessous de ta colère actuelle.
Bonne journée, Pat
je viens de passer deux semaines en thailande .je m'ai pas vraiment etait eblouis. j ai trouvé que ce pays sans veritable couleur ni chaleur seulement tres en pointe pour plumer les touristes. le gouvernement redistribut il l'argent de ce tourisme. la norvege qui designe la thailande comme meilleure destination je rigole d'accord si on accepte tous ces vieux de 60ans bedonnant en compagnie de jeunes filles a pattaya. et tous ceux qui distribue leur fric a tous va, a tous vent sans qu'ils ce rendent compte dans quellle misere ces gens peuvent se retrouver en cas de difficulté qu ils se rapellent 1996 ou le baths a etait devalué tous ces gens dont la maison a etait saisie ne pouvant plus payer . tous ceci reste mon opinion. mais je n'encouragerais personne a visiter la thailande.
Pour avoir passe seulement deux semaines en Thailande, ta synthese est assez impressionnante ?
Meme si le territoire a tout fait pour favoriser et recolter une partie de ce que tu decris, il est dommage que tu sois tombe dans le pire car la on peut comprendre qu'il y a de quoi partir en courant...
Pourtant, il est encore possible de rencontrer des voyageurs symphatiques venant de tout horizon ?
De plus, il reste des lieux avec des personnes dans ce pays qui ont de belles valeurs . Mais en si peu de temps, c'est peut etre de moins en moins flagrant !
Pour avoir passe seulement deux semaines en Thailande, ta synthese est assez impressionnante ?

Meme si le territoire a tout fait pour favoriser et recolter une partie de ce que tu decris, il est dommage que tu sois tombe dans le pire car la on peut comprendre qu'il y a de quoi partir en courant...
Pourtant, il est encore possible de rencontrer des voyageurs symphatiques venant de tout horizon ?
De plus, il reste des lieux avec des personnes dans ce pays qui ont de belles valeurs . Mais en si peu de temps, c'est peut etre de moins en moins flagrant !
J' y retourne dans moins de 2 mois pour la 5eme fois et ce sera pas la derniere 😉, pas d'autre commentaire 🤪
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
c'est parce que tu as oublier d'enlever tes lunettes, t'as rien vu, tu vas voir, tu vas etre decu la prochaine fois 😉😉😏!!
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
J' y retourne dans moins de 2 mois pour la 5eme fois et ce sera pas la derniere 😉, pas d'autre commentaire 🤪
le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ignore et c'est bien ainsi
le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ignore et c'est bien ainsi
il faut le reconnaitre si on tombe dans le panneau tourisme, on peut en sortir avec une opinion pareille, ,
c'est comme un étranger qui n'a vu que la tour eiffel et pigalle puis donne un jugement de valeur sur la France, , Un des grands avantages de v f est justement qui on peut éviter ses coins oui le coin a gogo existe, , ( dans tout les pays ) simplement on peut les contourner facilement
c'est comme un étranger qui n'a vu que la tour eiffel et pigalle puis donne un jugement de valeur sur la France, , Un des grands avantages de v f est justement qui on peut éviter ses coins oui le coin a gogo existe, , ( dans tout les pays ) simplement on peut les contourner facilement
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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tu as raison, j'ai rien vu et c'est pour ca que j'y retourne, je redécouvre ce fabuleux pays a chaque visite 😉😎
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Finalement, t'es comme moi, avec notre probleme de vue (c'est normal avec notre age), ben on est oblige de rester plus longtemps ...... logique 😛 !!!
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
pffffffffft faut pas critiquer comme ça effectivement tu as pas vu tout de la thailande il ya des lieux oui faut éviter
moi ça fait une dizaine de fois que j'y vais et je men lasse pas et j'ai pas fait le plus beau je suis sur
Laurence
Voila la meilleure réponse en effet, merci thuan 🙂
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
merci pour cette image de paix avant déconnection
Ils sont charmants les VRP de la Thailande, a croire qu'ils ont ete eleves a l'office du tourisme thailandais... 😏
😏😄😉 c'est vrai qu'il est un peu mal tombé la...au mileu d'un tas d'amoureux du pays, je peux faire la meme chose pour l'indo aussi 😉 (ca n'empeche pas d'avoir l'esprit critique mais pas aussi négatif ...Pattaya, pffff...bonjour l'image de la Thailande en effet)
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Ils sont charmants les VRP de la Thailande, a croire qu'ils ont ete eleves a l'office du tourisme thailandais... 😏
Tu crois qu'on pourrait demander un financement pour cela? un billet 50% sur la Thai ou une prolongation de visa gratos? en tout cas pas des parts dans le nouvel aéroport ....😏😄😉
Tu crois qu'on pourrait demander un financement pour cela? un billet 50% sur la Thai ou une prolongation de visa gratos? en tout cas pas des parts dans le nouvel aéroport ....😏😄😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Tu crois qu'on pourrait demander un financement pour cela? un billet 50% sur la Thai ou une prolongation de visa gratos? en tout cas pas des parts dans le nouvel aéroport ....😏😄😉
je pense plutot qu'il ne faut rien leur demander... 🙂
je pense plutot qu'il ne faut rien leur demander... 🙂
Et les thais, quelle image ont-ils de Pattaya, alors qu'elle est devient de plus en plus une station familiale ?
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Bonne question, je leur demanderai quand j'y serai...en Thailande, pas a Pattaya... quoiqu'il faudrait que j'y aille aussi un jour 😎
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Et les thais, quelle image ont-ils de Pattaya, alors qu'elle est devient de plus en plus une station familiale ?
Il semble que beaucoup de thailandais voient Pattaya comme une destination commode pour aller a la mer et s'amuser.
A ce titre, c'est aussi un lieu ou les entreprises publiques ou privees du pays payent des conges a leurs employes !
Par contre pour une certaine strate sociale se sera plutot Hua Hin, Phuket et evidemment Chiang Mai...
Il semble que beaucoup de thailandais voient Pattaya comme une destination commode pour aller a la mer et s'amuser.
A ce titre, c'est aussi un lieu ou les entreprises publiques ou privees du pays payent des conges a leurs employes !
Par contre pour une certaine strate sociale se sera plutot Hua Hin, Phuket et evidemment Chiang Mai...
Par contre pour une certaine strate sociale se sera plutot Hua Hin, Phuket et evidemment Chiang Mai...D'Observateur
C'était vrai il y a encore peu, mais depuis 1-2 ans Pattaya a rattrapé son retard dans le haut de gamme, en ouvrant récemment le Sheraton, le Golden cliff, le Nipa pura, le Napalai pool et en proposant le sugar Hut, des bungalows en pur style thai, auquel il faut ajouter, l'ouverture prochaine de : La plus haute tour d'appartements du monde, Ocean one 367 M. Le Royal meridien, hôtel de luxe Un centre commercial "Central" au coût de 14 milliard de bahts ! A la place du vieux hotel central Wong amat, un immense hôtel avec parc d'attraction. Pattaya va devenir un endroit très fréquenté aussi par la "haute" société, d'autant plus que le trajet bangkok-Pattaya propose une vraie autoroute
C'était vrai il y a encore peu, mais depuis 1-2 ans Pattaya a rattrapé son retard dans le haut de gamme, en ouvrant récemment le Sheraton, le Golden cliff, le Nipa pura, le Napalai pool et en proposant le sugar Hut, des bungalows en pur style thai, auquel il faut ajouter, l'ouverture prochaine de : La plus haute tour d'appartements du monde, Ocean one 367 M. Le Royal meridien, hôtel de luxe Un centre commercial "Central" au coût de 14 milliard de bahts ! A la place du vieux hotel central Wong amat, un immense hôtel avec parc d'attraction. Pattaya va devenir un endroit très fréquenté aussi par la "haute" société, d'autant plus que le trajet bangkok-Pattaya propose une vraie autoroute
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Suis rentrée hier soir, 3 semaines en Thailande dont une dans la Province de NAN et une 2éme dans les environs de Chiang Saen et Chiang Kong je reviens une nouvelle fois émerveillée non seulement par les paysages et la culture thai mais surtout par la gentillesse (gratuite, je suis une femme et n'ai eu aucun probléme, personne n'a essayé de me "plumer")) du peuple thai.
Je pense que les raisons pour lesquelles on choisit cette destination pour y passer des vacances est différente chez chacun de nous .Si tu es deçu essaie de changer de région ou de ville, tout dépends de ce que tu cherches.
J'aurais tendance à me rallier à la majorité, je n'y suis allé que deux fois pour l'instant, 4 semaines en tout, et j'y retourne encore dans 2 mois pour ma 3ème fois car je suis encore loin d'y avoir fait le tour.
Je pense que 2 semaines sont un peu court pour juger un pays dans son ensemble, et puis quels ont été vos sites visités ?
Enfin je fais pas insisté et y rajouter une couche je pense que ça suffit...
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Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Avec tout ça, on ne sait toujours pas dans quel coin tu es allé...
Je parierais pour Jomtien ou Pattaya...
@+
Thibaut
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Je pense que 2 semaines sont un peu court pour juger un pays dans son ensemble, et puis quels ont été vos sites visités ?
Enfin je fais pas insisté et y rajouter une couche je pense que ça suffit...
Et puis la Thailande ne peu pas plaire a tout le monde, et c'est tres bien ainsi, heureusementttttttttttttt !!!😉
Et puis la Thailande ne peu pas plaire a tout le monde, et c'est tres bien ainsi, heureusementttttttttttttt !!!😉
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
(gratuite, je suis une femme et n'ai eu aucun probléme, personne n'a essayé de me "plumer")
Ca fait du bien de lire ceci... j'ai eu la même sensation sur place et, comme tu dis, gentillesse GRATUITE
Ca fait du bien de lire ceci... j'ai eu la même sensation sur place et, comme tu dis, gentillesse GRATUITE
ce n'est pas de la gentillesse, c'est du respect
Du tout, la gentillesse dont j'ai bénéficié n'a rien à voir avec le respect, c'est bien plus que ça.
Du tout, la gentillesse dont j'ai bénéficié n'a rien à voir avec le respect, c'est bien plus que ça.
- La plus haute tour d'appartements du monde, Ocean one 367 M.
Encore une belle verrue en perspective... 😕 C'est comme a Vientiane au Laos, ville de caractere et particulierement agreable avec ces arbres seculaires, ses arteres aérées, etc... Contrairement a celles de Thailande, en general ! Et bien, il ont fini par planter un complexe hotelier dans le plus pur style a la "chinoise" au bord du Mekong qui certes n'atteint pas la hauteur de l'immeuble que vous citez mais reste totalement incongru disproportionne en rapport a l'environnement... Ces asiatiques la, s'ils ne peuvent pas s'empecher d'afficher leur complexe phallique. Ils sont du moins incorrigibles dans leur esthetisme ?
Encore une belle verrue en perspective... 😕 C'est comme a Vientiane au Laos, ville de caractere et particulierement agreable avec ces arbres seculaires, ses arteres aérées, etc... Contrairement a celles de Thailande, en general ! Et bien, il ont fini par planter un complexe hotelier dans le plus pur style a la "chinoise" au bord du Mekong qui certes n'atteint pas la hauteur de l'immeuble que vous citez mais reste totalement incongru disproportionne en rapport a l'environnement... Ces asiatiques la, s'ils ne peuvent pas s'empecher d'afficher leur complexe phallique. Ils sont du moins incorrigibles dans leur esthetisme ?
c'est dommage de parler de la sorte d'un si beau pays haut en couleur ou il regne une chaleur
et une gentillesse du nord au sud
j'y retourne a la fin du mois et je suis tres heureux
De tous les livres, celui que je préfère est mon passeport
Namasté monsieur féroce, tu ne serais pas un peu féroce la, pour dire sur ce forum de ne pas aller en thailande, j'ai aussi visité le népal, et un peu l'inde, le sikkim et la birmanie, il est où le problème de payer un peu plus de taxes un jour, l'argent tu l'as pour voyager, quant à ces peuples qui survivent, qui ne quitteront sans doute jamais leur pays, qui pour eux le tourisme est question de survie. que diable un peu de tolerance ici... si le pays manquait de copuleurs, peut etre est ce dans ton coeur qu'il en manque....
Et quinze jours pour visiter et s'imprégner c'est assez court, et la on repart sur le probleme argent;;;; avec un peu plus tu serais resté plus longtemps, tu aurais pris le temps d'aller dans les villages à la rencontre des gens, témerveiller des sourires des enfants, des sourires édentés des vieillards etc des odeurs, des couleurs, des levers de soleil ....
voila mes réflexions après lecture de ton message. Je pars en thailande fin mai pour cinq semaines
Cordialement
Franca
<< .....notre soif de survie dans le futur nous rend incapables de vivre dans le présent .....>>. Chuang TZU
quant à ces peuples qui survivent, qui ne quitteront sans doute jamais leur pays, qui pour eux le tourisme est question de survie.
Vaste sujet les retombees du tourisme... On peut se poser parfois des questions ? Voyez la Thailande qui depuis deja quelques decennies c'est lancé dans ce domaine et avec le succes que l'on sait ! Les quelques fortunes ont pu s'enrichir encore plus, une fragile classe moyenne en a surement profite egalement mais, il y a toujours une tres forte majorite de thailandais qui vivent au jour le jour et ne peuvent etre que locataires dans leur pays quand ils ne sont pas dans des masures ou des bidonvilles sur Bangkok par exemple ! Et ailleurs, le plus grand pourcentage de la population qui est rural. A part peut etre quelqu'uns, le système féodal qui conditionne leur existence n'a guere evolue... 😕
Vaste sujet les retombees du tourisme... On peut se poser parfois des questions ? Voyez la Thailande qui depuis deja quelques decennies c'est lancé dans ce domaine et avec le succes que l'on sait ! Les quelques fortunes ont pu s'enrichir encore plus, une fragile classe moyenne en a surement profite egalement mais, il y a toujours une tres forte majorite de thailandais qui vivent au jour le jour et ne peuvent etre que locataires dans leur pays quand ils ne sont pas dans des masures ou des bidonvilles sur Bangkok par exemple ! Et ailleurs, le plus grand pourcentage de la population qui est rural. A part peut etre quelqu'uns, le système féodal qui conditionne leur existence n'a guere evolue... 😕
namasté
je suis d'accord avec toi, une infime partie des peuples d'asie bénéficient ou vivent du tourisme, mais si quelqu'un sur ce forum, dit << il ne faut pas aller dans tel ou tel pays >> la je m'insurge, nous savons tous que dans la majorité des pays visités, certains profitent du business, et d'autres crevent de faim, mais au moins il y a deja cette partie qui tente de vivre et c'est deja pas mal. Moi bien sur je préfererais que tous puissent bénéficer du toursime, mais la c'est mon coté humaniste qui parle... tous égaux....
cordialement
Franca
<< .....notre soif de survie dans le futur nous rend incapables de vivre dans le présent .....>>. Chuang TZU
mais si quelqu'un sur ce forum, dit << il ne faut pas aller dans tel ou tel pays >> la je m'insurge Moi bien sur je préfererais que tous puissent bénéficer du tourisme
Je partage volontier qu'il devrait etre normal qu'un pays fasse profiter sa population des retombees des devises du tourisme... De l'autre, il est aussi legitime que l'on puisse etre libre d'exprimer son avis et meme s'il est contraire a certaines opinions !
Je partage volontier qu'il devrait etre normal qu'un pays fasse profiter sa population des retombees des devises du tourisme... De l'autre, il est aussi legitime que l'on puisse etre libre d'exprimer son avis et meme s'il est contraire a certaines opinions !
La thailande, c'est sympa, d'abord😏.
C'est propre là 😏
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We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
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Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
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Have a great Sunday
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I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Hi there,
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After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
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Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
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Thanks in advance for your help.
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Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.













