Nous allons faire un voyage de 6 mois en Amérique centrale. Pour ce faire, nous allons acheter un véhicule au USA (L-A) mais nous souhaiterions le revendre dans le Sud, genre au Panama...
Quelqu'un connait-il les formalités? Facilités ou problèmes éventuels à ce genre de transaction (usa--> Panama) ??
Ou alors faire remonter la voiture jusque Los-Angeles en cargot..??
Merci pour les éventuels conseils OU REDIRECTION vers des discussions dans ce sens (d'après mes premières recherches, je n'ai rien pas trouvé... mais peut-être me trompe-je !!!)
Bonjour, si tu veux le faire légalement ca va te coûter un bras, voir les 2 (importation définitive donc taxes et impôts), sinon tu la revends a un garagiste sans importation définitive et tu laisses passer quelques années avant de revenir au Panama sinon ils te demanderont sûrement de payer ce que tu dois avec quelques indemnités...
J ai revendu une voiture au Costa Rica il y a qq temps...
Au Costa Rica ça dépends de l état et l âge de la voiture et de sa valeur.
Notre voiture valait 3000dollars canadiens au départ du voyage et visiblement on nous demandait plus de sa valeur en taxe d.importation, de plus les démarches administratives sont longues et compliquées.
Du coup qu'avez-vous fait??
De notre coté, on serait un peu dans le même scénario, l'idée étant d'acheter un voiture en Californie dans les mêmes budgets (2000-4000$) avant de descendre dans le sud...
Je viens de répondre à une question similaire pour le Paraguay, c'est quand même dommage qu'il n'y ait aucun correspondant VF résidant au Panama ...
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?live=1;post=7074623;#7074623
Même topo pour nous, nous avons débuté un Road trip en février en achetant un beau van Ford en Géorgie aux USA, le voyage touche à sa fin, nous sommes actuellement au Panama où nous avions prévu de revendre le van également! Il est d'ailleurs en vente, la seule chose est qu'il est extrêmement difficile de revendre un véhicule ici !
Nous sommes allés dans différents bureaux de douanes à David et à Ciudad de Panama, deux solutions sont envisageables pour vendre un véhicule US :
Premier cas de figure, on trouve un acheteur du Panama qui souhaite utiliser le van au Panama, il faut donc importer le véhicule afin qu'il soit nationaliser au Panama, dans notre cas nous souhaitons vendre notre van 4000$, mais les taxes pour le nationaliser (c'est l'acheteur qui payera les taxes) s'élèvent à environ 2000$ ce qui nous "oblige" à revoir notre prix de vente à la baisse! Si la valeur réelle du véhicule est de 4000$ il est difficile d'accepter de l'acheter à ce prix là et de payer 2000$ de plus pour pouvoir obtenir les papiers à son nom et rouler dans son pays, j'espère que vous me suivez jusque là! Pour cela il suffit de se rendre à la douane, le véhicule est immobilisé trois jours le temps de régler la "transaction" (inspection du véhicule, annulation du permis provisoire de circuler, facturation des taxes d'importation à l'acheteur et ca se finalisé par la transaction, vous repartez avec vos dollars et vous n'êtes plus propriétaire du véhicule vous pouvez donc quitter le pays sans le véhicule)
Deuxième cas de figure qui permet de ne pas payer les taxes et donc de vendre le véhicule à sa juste valeur, trouver un acquéreur résident des USA souhaitant voyager au départ de Panama pour aller ensuite en Amérique du sud ou remonter vers les USA, ainsi l'acheteur US peut venir voir le véhicule, l'essayer, nous pouvons ensuite nous rendre à la frontière du Panama avec le Costa Rica et s'en suit une démarche un peu complexe mais pas insurmontable :
- il faut se rendre chez un notaire effectuer une autorisation de circuler au nom du vendeur adressée à l'acheteur (pour que l'acheteur soit libre de circuler avec un véhicule ne lui appartenant pas en théorie, les papiers du véhicule étant encore au nom du vendeur).
- il faut sortir le véhicule du Panama, se rendre à la douane et annuler le "formulario de control vehicular" qui est au nom du vendeur, rendre le formulaire et se faire tamponner le passeport pour attester que le véhicule est sorti du Panama (important pour pouvoir quitter le pays par la suite sans le véhicule)
- en zone franche peut s'opérer la transaction du véhicule, l'acheteur récupère le Title, l'autorisation rédigée par le notaire, le "Registration", une Bill of Sale complétée il est ensuite libre d'aller au Panama ou au Costa Rica en effectuant les formalités douanières classiques puisque le document redigé par le notaire lui donne le droit de circuler avec le véhicule!
- vous vendeur pouvez également rester au Panama et prendre un transport vers l'aéroport ou n'importe quelle destination !
- l'acheteur doit par la suite constituer son dossier complet pour le changement de propriétaire et envoyer le tout à un correspondant aux USA qui se chargera d'aller au DMV faire les formalites administratives pour obtenir le nouveau Title, registration et plaque d'immatriculation, et renvoyer le tout par DHL à l'acheteur là où il se trouve!
- l'acheteur peut également circuler librement avec les papiers au nom du vendeur et le document fait par le notaire et ne faire les formalités administratives qu'une fois revenu aux USA (libre à lui mais à mon sens faire le changement de propriétaire par correspondance au plus vite est le mieux pour ensuite rouler tranquil avec un véhicule à son nom propre)
Ces informations sont fraîchement récoltées de cette semaine, pour les intéressés, notre van est à vendre actuellement à Panama City, suivant l'acheteur trouvé nous adapterons notre prix de vente si ce dernier doit nationaliser le véhicule et payer les affreuses taxes du Panama!
Les infos de monsieur Matteo sont les bonnes et merci pour le compte-rendu super détaillé j'ai bénéficié de ses précieux conseils pour mon achat en californie :)
Du coup je revends mon 4x4 Toyota 4 Runner au Panama ou Costa Rica ce mois-ci ou en avril !
Bonjour, si tu veux le faire légalement ca va te coûter un bras, voir les 2 (importation définitive donc taxes et impôts), sinon tu la revends a un garagiste sans importation définitive et tu laisses passer quelques années avant de revenir au Panama sinon ils te demanderont sûrement de payer ce que tu dois avec quelques indemnités...
J ai revendu une voiture au Costa Rica il y a qq temps...
Bonjour,
Revendre ta voiture au Costa Rica, à toi il été compliqué ? On a acheté une voiture aux États-Unis il y a 3 mois et on cherche à la vendre soit au Costa Rica, Panama ou Nicaragua et idéalement au Costa Rica car on y est actuellement, apparemment les taxes pour vendre notre voiture à un Costa ricain sont exorbitante, mais on a peut-être trouvé une française qui souhaite remonter aux États-Unis avec, et donc garder la voiture immatriculé la bas. Sais tu si les démarches sont compliquées, on ne trouve pas d'informations très claires à ce sujet...
Bonjour,
Dans les prochaines, je pense passer 3 mois aux USA par an . Je voulais savoir quel sont les formalités administratives Adresse aux USA ? Achat, carte grise, contrôle technique, passage douane, le tarif pour un Storage aux USA ? Tarif des assurances.
Est ‘-il possible d'assurer une voiture américaine avec un assureur français ?
Vous avez réussi à vendre votre voiture aux Costa Rica ? Combien
Merci.
J'ai vue aussi que l'on pouvait créer une société au Montana par internet, ou il n'y a pas de taxes ni de contrôle technique Mettre la voiture au nom de la société pour une somme dérisoire 80$, tous se passe par internet par des sociétés spécialisé ?
Pour la revente, il suffit de vendre la société, pas de changement de carte grise et de nom de propriétaire. Une personne sur le forum a-t-elle utilisé ce système ?
Hi everyone,
I have to leave for Perth, Australia in a week, for 7 days, and I couldn’t get my international driver’s permit due to processing and delivery delays.
The information I’ve found about whether an international permit is required is contradictory. Some sources say you need one, others say you don’t.
Could anyone let me know if an international driver’s permit is necessary to rent a car in Australia (Perth), or if a French license is enough for a 7-day rental?
hi everyone,
I need to apply for a new eTA for Canada.
do I need the number from my old eTA or not?
because I can’t find my old eTA number anymore.
thanks for your replies, have a great weekend
Hi there,
I know there are similar topics here and elsewhere, but they’re a few years old, and I need an up-to-date answer to make sure I don’t throw over 1000 € out the window. Thanks for your patience.
I’m planning a trip from France to Alberta/British Columbia, and I’m unsure about which bank card to use for the security deposit with the rental company (I’m thinking of going with AVIS).
I contacted Avis Canada, and they told me a credit card is absolutely required. I asked my bank for a credit card (a *real* credit card), but they only offered me a deferred debit card.
My question: For a rental with Avis Canada, is a Gold International Mastercard deferred debit card usable for the security deposit needed to finalize the rental? Is the "CREDIT" label enough? (Some cards say "CREDIT" and others say "CARTE DE CREDIT"—seems minor, but it’s actually a big deal in how the card works.)
I’ve seen conflicting info everywhere I look... My bank says it’s *usually* okay (the deferred debit card), while Avis Canada insists it *must* be a credit card, not debit—even when I mention the deferred debit card.
I know the whole credit card concept is already confusing, and on top of that, some sites say a deferred debit card counts as a credit card, while others say it doesn’t.
Thanks to anyone who can share a recent experience!
Have a great day
Hello everyone,
Could a resident of Benin (Cotonou) kindly let me know which is the best mobile phone and internet service provider?
Thank you very much,
Best regards,
Juan
Hi,
I’m bringing Seresta, an anxiolytic (tranquilizer) from the benzodiazepine family,
to help me sleep.
I’ll have the prescription with me.
Will this be a problem at customs, and do I need to declare it?
Same question for antibiotics?
Thanks a bunch!
Hi everyone,
I’ll explain my situation.
Unfortunately, I lost my passport, and I only realized it two weeks before my departure for a humanitarian mission in Libya. I’m a nurse, and this mission really means a lot to me.
First, I applied for an emergency passport, but it was denied by the Val-d'Oise prefecture on the grounds that a planned humanitarian mission wasn’t considered an urgent reason.
So, I submitted a biometric passport application on July 20th. Since then, the tracking has been stuck, and the town hall can’t (or won’t) give me any clear information. Every time I call, I get a different story. The last update I received was that the passport had been produced since July 23rd with a status of "about to be shipped," but nothing since then.
I’ve managed to push my departure back to next Tuesday at the latest, but I’m starting to really panic.
Have any of you submitted an application around July 20th, especially in Val-d'Oise (95)? How long did you wait between the passport being produced and it being available at the town hall? Is it normal for this step to take this long?
This mission means so much to me. I had everything organized, and I’m also supposed to attend a friend’s wedding right after near the border.
Thanks so much to those who take the time to respond or share their experience. 😔
Can anyone tell me exactly if a passport "valid for the duration of the stay" is enough, or does it need to be valid for 6 months after the trip?
I checked the embassy’s website, but that info is missing.
Hi there,
I’ll be arriving in Seoul on November 18th after spending about a month in India.
Do you know if I’ll need to fill out any additional documents besides the e-arrival card?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m a bit embarrassed because I need to travel to Quebec from February 27th to March 13th. I’m a regular visitor to Canada—this will be my 10th trip since 1997, plus a year as a permanent resident (2000–2001) and a cross-country run from Vancouver to Halifax in 2011. So, I’m definitely not a terrorist!
But since our last trip in July 2015, they’ve introduced this eTA thing. Seems more like a way to make money than to actually secure Canada, if you ask me, but anyway, that’s not the point.
I applied for an eTA for myself, my wife, and our two kids. They all got approved within hours, but not me! I was asked to create a GC key and then an IRCC account, which I did. Normally, you get news within 72 hours, but since Monday, January 15th, nothing!
In the "message" section of the account, it says "explanation letter (required)" with a deadline of January 25th, but I can’t find any explanation anywhere—despite searching the Canadian government website and Google. No links, nothing!
I’ve emailed them but haven’t heard back yet. I’m thinking of calling the Canadian embassy in Paris tomorrow. Even though I’m not stressing yet, it’d be a bummer if everyone else got to go without me!
If anyone’s had this issue before or knows what this explanation letter is about, I’d love to hear more.
hi there
I’m heading to Seoul in September, and to do that I need to get a travel authorization that we apply for through K-ETA....... turns out I can (barely, I admit) fill out the form up to the address of our "stay location," but every address I’ve entered has been rejected by the system. I’ve tried my hotel, the Lotte Hotel (which is well-known in Seoul), the airport—basically, I’ve entered at least 20 addresses, all rejected....
So, to anyone who’s successfully gotten the authorization, could you tell me which address you used to get that "elusive" approval?...
Hi there,
I’m heading to Senegal in January for a month and was wondering if I just need my French driver’s license or if I should get an international permit?
Thanks!
JL
I’m heading to Laos next spring, but I have a question about the Thai arrival/departure form. I’ll be flying PAR-BKK, then taking the train to Laos (so exiting Thailand), and later re-entering Thailand by train to catch my return flight. Do I need to fill out two forms in this case?
Hi there,
I have a 9-seater passenger vehicle that I use for my business in Paris, transporting people.
I’m planning to go to Algeria with my family.
The vehicle registration lists my company as the owner.
Can I get a TPD (Temporary Admission Document)?
Will I need a KBis extract or a power of attorney?!?
Thanks for your help.
Worst case, I can add my personal name as a co-owner on the registration, but that would be a real shame!
Hi,
I’m writing to ask for some info—I’ve heard that you **must** have travel insurance to land in Zanzibar.
What’s the process, and which insurance should I get?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Best,
Seb
Hi, are there any travelers who’ve recently crossed the border between Karakalpakstan (Uzbekistan) and Beineu in Kazakhstan?
It was closed for a while.
Thanks for any info!
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April.
My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date.
Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry.
However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht).
This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea?
Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast!
Cheers,
Bruno.
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident.
I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia.
For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France?
Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted.
Is this real or just a hoax?
Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received.
Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding?
Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival?
Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient?
Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month.
I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival?
How long do the formalities take on the spot?
Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
