Claudia
Transibérien Beijing-Ulan Bataar-Moscou
by Bubblelab
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour a tous,
Mon copain et moi voudrions prendre le train de Beijing en fin septembre-debut octobre 2007 pour Ulan Bataar, y rester quelques jours puis repartir sur Moscou y rester quelques jours et aller a Budapest.
J'ai trouve un site avec d'assez bonnes infos: http://trains.waytorussia.net. Mais j'aurais encore quelques questions a ce sujet: Faut-il que je prenne les tickets a Beijing ou je dois les commender sur internet? Au niveau des visas, je dois les faire a l'avance chaqu'un separes ou y a t'il une possibilite de les faire en achetant les tickets. Et qu'est ce qui est le mieux? Peut-on trouver a Moscou des billets pour Budapest ou faut-il reserver a l'avance?
Nous voyagons depuis 8 mois en Asie de sud est, nous partons bientot pour le Japon et ensuite la Chine, ca serait super de pouvoir rentrer tranquillement en train jusqu'en Europe.
Merci d'avance pour les reponses a mes nombreuses question!
Claudia
Claudia
salut a toi en suisse, moi aussi en suisse mais pas sur el mêm lac.. le mien LUGANO!
bon voila tu as ausis une agence a morges.. pas mal non? tu vas sur mes pages dans les liens et tu trouves des sites pour trains avions... c'est espace transib
bien je vais essayer de te donner infos
puisuqe tu vas en mongolie si tard dnas la saison tu n'as presque pas besoin de reserver quoi que ce soit le rush c'est juillet aout ou là il faut s'y prendre qq mois en avance donc a la limte tu peux y aller la fleur au fusil. mais pour etre sur de son coup car il se pourrait comme apr hasard que juste le jour que tu vas vouloir prendre un train pour Ub puisuqe que en plus 1/semaine il y ai une armée de touristes? donc oui tu peux reserver avant et là je peux te donenr une super adresse d'une agence efficace ou on te fera ton billet, aps plus cher si non moins et tu passes a bejing a l'agence les recuperer avant de aprtir pour la mongolie, tu payes apr western union ou autre systeme, depuis des annèes que j'induîque cette histoire tout le monde a ete content pas de reclamations donc pourquoi pas vous? adresse et ai un plan de l'agence qui est a 3 aps de tien a men, ils epuvent aviosn ou trains. sans compter que tu as aussi bus et train local pour allez en mongolie au cas ou..
Richard Tian: richard@oceantravel.com.cn ou oceantravelcn@yahoo.com.cn
Tel: 67020288, 67016737, 67016738 Add:Room A533-A537 Beijing Business World, No.56 DongXingLong Street, ChongWen District, Beijing, P.R.China
a toi de voir si vous arrivz a pekin pas mal de jours avant le jour du depart pour la mongolie autant faire ausi sur place a cette agence, a mediter selon vos projets!
en chine on peut faire visa pour la Mongolie, compter 5j environ et on va au consulat de mongolie a pekin, mais envoies le tout a geneve avant de aprtir en 3 j tu auras tes visas mongols et ainsi tranquilles non? adresse sur mes apges
pour la chine certes que tu le fais avant de partir ici en suisse
donc un apres l'autre, le chinois est peut etre plus long a obtenir commence par lui un mois avant depart et ensuite el mongol, a genev e si tu y vas on te le fait même sur place en 10 minutes en payant le double
moscou budapest: là je pesne que pas de soucis mais autant avec les low cost reserver avance non cela peut couter mojuns cher? autrement entre les eurolines en bus, le train l'avion et si en plus vous avez votre temps alors faire cela sur place? mais dejà fais recherches pour voir ce qui peut etre le plus interessant au niveau prix, horaires.. aisni le momnet venu les recherches seront plsu faciles?
ensuite pour budapest peut t'indiquer des hotels et une adresse de dentiste si cela peut aussi t'interesserr, nous allons chez led entiste a budapest et c'est plsuq eu super puisque nous suisses on economisent plus de 60% sur certains gros travaux alors tu aples d'une aubaine a y etre autant faire voir les ratiches si elles sont un peu malades!
avec tout cela voir mes pages pour la Mongolie ou tu trouveras des infos
http://site.voila.fr/gengiskhan
certes em contacter
a plus et bon voyage
bon voila tu as ausis une agence a morges.. pas mal non? tu vas sur mes pages dans les liens et tu trouves des sites pour trains avions... c'est espace transib
bien je vais essayer de te donner infos
puisuqe tu vas en mongolie si tard dnas la saison tu n'as presque pas besoin de reserver quoi que ce soit le rush c'est juillet aout ou là il faut s'y prendre qq mois en avance donc a la limte tu peux y aller la fleur au fusil. mais pour etre sur de son coup car il se pourrait comme apr hasard que juste le jour que tu vas vouloir prendre un train pour Ub puisuqe que en plus 1/semaine il y ai une armée de touristes? donc oui tu peux reserver avant et là je peux te donenr une super adresse d'une agence efficace ou on te fera ton billet, aps plus cher si non moins et tu passes a bejing a l'agence les recuperer avant de aprtir pour la mongolie, tu payes apr western union ou autre systeme, depuis des annèes que j'induîque cette histoire tout le monde a ete content pas de reclamations donc pourquoi pas vous? adresse et ai un plan de l'agence qui est a 3 aps de tien a men, ils epuvent aviosn ou trains. sans compter que tu as aussi bus et train local pour allez en mongolie au cas ou..
Richard Tian: richard@oceantravel.com.cn ou oceantravelcn@yahoo.com.cn
Tel: 67020288, 67016737, 67016738 Add:Room A533-A537 Beijing Business World, No.56 DongXingLong Street, ChongWen District, Beijing, P.R.China
a toi de voir si vous arrivz a pekin pas mal de jours avant le jour du depart pour la mongolie autant faire ausi sur place a cette agence, a mediter selon vos projets!
en chine on peut faire visa pour la Mongolie, compter 5j environ et on va au consulat de mongolie a pekin, mais envoies le tout a geneve avant de aprtir en 3 j tu auras tes visas mongols et ainsi tranquilles non? adresse sur mes apges
pour la chine certes que tu le fais avant de partir ici en suisse
donc un apres l'autre, le chinois est peut etre plus long a obtenir commence par lui un mois avant depart et ensuite el mongol, a genev e si tu y vas on te le fait même sur place en 10 minutes en payant le double
moscou budapest: là je pesne que pas de soucis mais autant avec les low cost reserver avance non cela peut couter mojuns cher? autrement entre les eurolines en bus, le train l'avion et si en plus vous avez votre temps alors faire cela sur place? mais dejà fais recherches pour voir ce qui peut etre le plus interessant au niveau prix, horaires.. aisni le momnet venu les recherches seront plsu faciles?
ensuite pour budapest peut t'indiquer des hotels et une adresse de dentiste si cela peut aussi t'interesserr, nous allons chez led entiste a budapest et c'est plsuq eu super puisque nous suisses on economisent plus de 60% sur certains gros travaux alors tu aples d'une aubaine a y etre autant faire voir les ratiches si elles sont un peu malades!
avec tout cela voir mes pages pour la Mongolie ou tu trouveras des infos
http://site.voila.fr/gengiskhan
certes em contacter
a plus et bon voyage
un mongol nait sous la yourte et meurt à cheval (proverbe mongol)
Bonjour Claudia, je suis de Geneve mais j'habite a Ulan bator.
De beijing tu peux acheter to billet de train a l'hotel International pour 600 yuan, je crois ca a augmenter un peux.
Mais c'est souvent plein.
Une autre alternative c'est de prendre le bus pour 200 Yuan de Beiging a Erene, ville frontiere, la tu traverse en jeep 80 Yuan, et ensuite il ya tous les jours un train couchette pour 12100 Tg qui part a 18 heures pour Ulan Bataar(8 euro)
A Ulan Bataar, dans le bureau de ticketing International, pas loin de la station de train, les billets de train pour la russie sonta des prix derisoires, mais reserver des nue tu arrive en Mongolie.
Si tu ne trouve pas billet de train direct pour la Russie, prends les trains locaux, en fait les trains locaux sont tout simplements des vagons attaches aux trains internationeaux, et tu achere une billet pour passer la frontiere et un autre en Russie pour la ville que tu veux, c'est aussi moins cher et acec de la chance tu epux etre tout le long sur le meme train que le train international tout en etant dans des vagons locaux, car le train s'arete suffisam, ent longhtemps a la frontiere pour acheter de billets.
En Russie il y de nombreux trains, donc pas de probleme ni besoin de planifier
Bon voyage
Alexandre
Alexandre
Merci aux 2 pour vos reponses, ca m'a bien aidee. Le seul truc qui m'embete un peu, je ne suis plus en Suisse depuis 6 mois. Je suis maintenant a Tokyo et le visa pour la Chine, je l'ai eu depuis ici, mais par contre ce visa pour la Russie me parait compliqué! On ne va surement pas rester en Russie, peut-etre 2-3 jours a Moscou le temps de repartir. Y a-t'il aucun problèmes de faire le visa Russe en Chine sans avoir aucune reservations (hotel).
Merci déjà pour tout
Claudia
Claudia
Il faut une inviatation pour le visa Russe, tu peux trouver ca aussi sur des sitres interenet a imprimer en couleurs.
Pour la Russie c'est cher et pas si simple.
Sauf pour les visas transit
Bonjour Claudia, et d'autres qui pourraient me renseigner,
Ca m'intéresse de savoir comment vous vous êtes finalement débrouillés avec le visa russe.
Après un voyage en bateau, mes parents viennent me voir à Pékin (où j'habite), et souhaitent repartir vers la France par le train.
Est-il possible, en 2007, de se faire faire un visa russe de transit ou touristique à Pékin, pour des non-résidents chinois ? (ils auront le voucher, l'invitation, les photos d'id, l'assurance-rapatriement, le formulaire qui va bien et tout et tout)
L'ambassade de Russie à Pékin ne répond pas au téléphone, j'y suis passée ce matin, et c'est à peine croyable : les gens (quasiment tous des Chinois) se jettent aux grilles pour entrer ! Mais au final, est-ce que ça marche ?
Merci pour les infos, et bon voyage à tous !
Ca m'intéresse de savoir comment vous vous êtes finalement débrouillés avec le visa russe.
Après un voyage en bateau, mes parents viennent me voir à Pékin (où j'habite), et souhaitent repartir vers la France par le train.
Est-il possible, en 2007, de se faire faire un visa russe de transit ou touristique à Pékin, pour des non-résidents chinois ? (ils auront le voucher, l'invitation, les photos d'id, l'assurance-rapatriement, le formulaire qui va bien et tout et tout)
L'ambassade de Russie à Pékin ne répond pas au téléphone, j'y suis passée ce matin, et c'est à peine croyable : les gens (quasiment tous des Chinois) se jettent aux grilles pour entrer ! Mais au final, est-ce que ça marche ?
Merci pour les infos, et bon voyage à tous !
Murielle GHESTEM
www.transcarpates.org
www.transmuraille.org
As-tu trouvé une réponse à ta question? Je sais bien que 2 ans ont passé, mais ta réponse pourrait quand même grandement m'intéresser!
Merci!
Ambre
Merci!
Ambre
Bonjour Ambre,
En fait, j'ai l'impression que ça dépend vraiment de la période où tu vas à l'ambassade de Russie à Pékin. J'y étais allée fin aout, et tous les étudiants chinois faisaient la queue pour commencer leurs études en Russie. Mes parents y sont allés en décembre et finalement tout s'est très bien passé. A tenter, donc !
Bon voyage !
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Murielle
Murielle GHESTEM
www.transcarpates.org
www.transmuraille.org
Merci beaucoup pour la réponse!
Je vais tenter en effet, et ce sera certainement une expérience de plus, différente, et j'espère positive! Cela dit j'ai réussi à joindre ce matin l'ambassade de Russie a Pékin et à Shenyang. Pour ceux que cela intéresse, la réponse de Pékin à la question: peut-on obtenir un visa de tourisme en tant que non résident chinois: NON. Réponse de Shenyang: OUI! Ouf! Je tenterais donc ma chance à Shenyang!
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Je vais tenter en effet, et ce sera certainement une expérience de plus, différente, et j'espère positive! Cela dit j'ai réussi à joindre ce matin l'ambassade de Russie a Pékin et à Shenyang. Pour ceux que cela intéresse, la réponse de Pékin à la question: peut-on obtenir un visa de tourisme en tant que non résident chinois: NON. Réponse de Shenyang: OUI! Ouf! Je tenterais donc ma chance à Shenyang!
lesgrandsours.free.fr
Si tu veux, essaye aussi à Pékin, on ne sait jamais ;-)
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I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
Hi there,
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊






