Transsibérien ou train de Moscou à Perm
by Niouka
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour! je dois me rendre à Moscou en Novembre puis à Perm, J' aimerai prendre le train de moscou à perm, quelqu' un a t il des experiences de tels trajets ( combien de temps cela prend il), je pense que cela doit être plus sympathique que l' avion, mais je dois m' organiser, merci pour me faire partager vos experiences.
Ensuite, je me rends à Ekaterinburg mais là j' ai dejà reservé le train à partir de perm ( cela prend 5 heures, c' est parait il superbe!).
Bonjour niouka!
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Beaucoup de gens s'inscrivent sur ce forum pour avoir vite des informations sans se fouler, et ensuite ils se barrent... Les gens qui donnent des informations en ont marre de se répéter, il faut les comprendre!
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Merci pour eux!😉
Je n'y suis jamais allé, mais je sais que ce sujet a été maintes fois évoqué sur le forum! Au lieu de directement créer un nouveau sujet, regarde si cela n'existe pas déja...
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Salut,
je n'ai jamais fait ce trajet moi-même, mais un tour rapide sur les sites des chemins de fer russes donne les info suivantes: il y a au moins 4 trains à départ de Moscou (Gare de Yaroslavl) qui passe par Perm, la durée du trajet est de 26h environ. Par contre, c'est des trains qui vont assez loin (Vladivostok, Habarovsk, Oulan-Oulde), il faudrait donc réserver un peu en avance.
Par ailleurs, ça m'intéresserait de savoir comment t'as fait pour réserver le train entre perm et ekaterinburg. (à partir de france?)
http://jeparlerusse.free.fr/ Forum de la langue et la culture russes
merci pour les infos! en ce qui concerne le trajet perm-ekaterinburg, j' ai fait prendre les billets par des gens sur place qui accueillent mon mari pour le boulot, donc, on nous donnera les billets à moscou. je ne peux t' en dire plus. Le trajet dure 5 heures, je crois mais c' est trés beau! Si j' en sais plus, je te tiens au courant. A bientôt.
Bonjour c'est effectivement le transibérien que tu va prendre jusqu'à perm, ensuite tu sera aussi sur le transibérien car ekaterinburg est sur la ligne. C'est très beau, je ne sais pas si tu aura des paysages enneigé à la période où tu va aller. ekaterinburg est dans l'oural, tu à une magnifique cathédrale à visiter là bas. Tu a le petit futé Sibérie qui pourra te donner plein d'info sur la ligne et tout les arrêts et temps entre chaque gare. Je l'ai fais en février jusqu'au lac baïkal au mois de février, un super souvenir! Bon voyage!
Bonjour
De Moscou à Perm il y a 1437kms et 400 de plus jusqu'à Ekaterinbourg. On change fuseau horaire à Kirov (957kms) et à Perm (+2h). Il faut 2 jours pour arriver à Perm.
J'ai pris le Transsibérien en juillet 2002, de Moscou à Oulan-Oudé, soit 5647kms. Il s'agissait d'un voyage organisé par M. Yves Sommavilla, conférencier à Connaissances du Monde. Nous étions 12 personnes.
Les trains de voyageurs dits "transsibérien" sont très nombreux car il y a un trafic voyageurs/marchandises très intense sur la ligne Moscou/Vladivostock.
Nous avons passé 4 nuits dans le transsibérien n°2 ROSSIA de 22 wagons, le plus luxueux de la ligne Moscou/Vladivostock. Attention à ne pas assimiler le/les Transsibérien à l"Orient Express", ça n'a rien à voir. Le Rossia peut être assimilé à ce qu'était "le Mistral" avant les Tgv. La 1ère classe (1 wagon) offre 2 couchettes par cabine, les secondes en offrent 4. Les sanitaires se réduisent aux wc à chaque bout du wagon, il ne s'agit pas de wagon/lit, pour la douche il faut prévenir la veille la "Provodniza" responsable du wagon pour quelle fasse chauffer l'eau dans la chaudière "à bois" (surprenant...).
Le départ de Moscou est à 16h24 à la gare "Yaroslaw", 4 jours sont largement suffisants pour découvrir les paysages et la vie diurne/nocturne dans le train : confort sommaire, voyageurs cocasses, ambiance russe, odeurs, repas, babouchka/vendeuses d'aliments cuisinés sur les quais de gare, vendeurs/vendeuses ambulants dans la rame du train (fourrures, lainages, etc...)s aux arrêts
Le voyage devient très monotone à partir de Ekaterinbourg :taîga et toundra à l'infini, l'intérêt reste quand même grand car on traverse les grands fleuves de Sibérie et à partir d'Irkoutsk on longe le lac Baïkal au petit matin, LE Baîkal : grandiose, le frisson, le bout du monde ! ce voyage c'est surtout une ambiance, être dans "LE Transsibérien", c'est quelque part réaliser un rêve.
Ne pas oublié de prendre en compte les horaires d'arrivée dans les gares et la durée de l'arrêt. Arrivée à 2h du matin dans une gare n'offre pas un grand intérêt...
A Oulan-Oudé, Yves Sommavilla avait organisé un circuit d'une semaine en république Bouriate avec invitation chez des particuliers parlant français (ils sont très nombreux) avec retour à Irkoutsk en traversant le lac Baïkal en bâteau.
Ce voyage était merveilleusement organisé et équilibré par ce conférenciers qui nous a fait rencontrer ses différents contacts en Sibérie : invitation chez l'habitant, concert classique privé, spectacles folkloriques.
Vous pouvez prendre contact avec M. Yves Sommavilla chez : Château International, 3 rue des Gobelins, 75013 Paris, 01 55 43 06 12. Si vous en avez la possibilité je vous recommande ce voyage.
En attendant, bon voyage à Perm et Ekaterinbourg 😉
De Moscou à Perm il y a 1437kms et 400 de plus jusqu'à Ekaterinbourg. On change fuseau horaire à Kirov (957kms) et à Perm (+2h). Il faut 2 jours pour arriver à Perm.
J'ai pris le Transsibérien en juillet 2002, de Moscou à Oulan-Oudé, soit 5647kms. Il s'agissait d'un voyage organisé par M. Yves Sommavilla, conférencier à Connaissances du Monde. Nous étions 12 personnes.
Les trains de voyageurs dits "transsibérien" sont très nombreux car il y a un trafic voyageurs/marchandises très intense sur la ligne Moscou/Vladivostock.
Nous avons passé 4 nuits dans le transsibérien n°2 ROSSIA de 22 wagons, le plus luxueux de la ligne Moscou/Vladivostock. Attention à ne pas assimiler le/les Transsibérien à l"Orient Express", ça n'a rien à voir. Le Rossia peut être assimilé à ce qu'était "le Mistral" avant les Tgv. La 1ère classe (1 wagon) offre 2 couchettes par cabine, les secondes en offrent 4. Les sanitaires se réduisent aux wc à chaque bout du wagon, il ne s'agit pas de wagon/lit, pour la douche il faut prévenir la veille la "Provodniza" responsable du wagon pour quelle fasse chauffer l'eau dans la chaudière "à bois" (surprenant...).
Le départ de Moscou est à 16h24 à la gare "Yaroslaw", 4 jours sont largement suffisants pour découvrir les paysages et la vie diurne/nocturne dans le train : confort sommaire, voyageurs cocasses, ambiance russe, odeurs, repas, babouchka/vendeuses d'aliments cuisinés sur les quais de gare, vendeurs/vendeuses ambulants dans la rame du train (fourrures, lainages, etc...)s aux arrêts
Le voyage devient très monotone à partir de Ekaterinbourg :taîga et toundra à l'infini, l'intérêt reste quand même grand car on traverse les grands fleuves de Sibérie et à partir d'Irkoutsk on longe le lac Baïkal au petit matin, LE Baîkal : grandiose, le frisson, le bout du monde ! ce voyage c'est surtout une ambiance, être dans "LE Transsibérien", c'est quelque part réaliser un rêve.
Ne pas oublié de prendre en compte les horaires d'arrivée dans les gares et la durée de l'arrêt. Arrivée à 2h du matin dans une gare n'offre pas un grand intérêt...
A Oulan-Oudé, Yves Sommavilla avait organisé un circuit d'une semaine en république Bouriate avec invitation chez des particuliers parlant français (ils sont très nombreux) avec retour à Irkoutsk en traversant le lac Baïkal en bâteau.
Ce voyage était merveilleusement organisé et équilibré par ce conférenciers qui nous a fait rencontrer ses différents contacts en Sibérie : invitation chez l'habitant, concert classique privé, spectacles folkloriques.
Vous pouvez prendre contact avec M. Yves Sommavilla chez : Château International, 3 rue des Gobelins, 75013 Paris, 01 55 43 06 12. Si vous en avez la possibilité je vous recommande ce voyage.
En attendant, bon voyage à Perm et Ekaterinbourg 😉
Je vous déconseille la première classe, c'est tellement plus intérressant de voyager dans des cabines de 4 personnes et de lier connaissance. Eviter de réserver les espèces de petits déjeuners que l'on vous propose lorsque vous réservez. C'est nettement plus sympa d'aller au wagon restaurant ou d'acheter aux personnes qui vendent dans chaque gare. En effet Yves Sommavilla fait de super reportage, j'ai vu deux fois ces films, le premier la Sibérie en été et le deuxième en hivers (avec une préférence pour l'hivers), par contre ces voyages son hors de prix, ce n'est pas donner à tout le monde de voyager ainsi.
Salut,
Le train est une alternative assez intéressante. Si tu aimes les rencontres, les beaux paysages et un soupçon d'aventure (vraiment très légère), alors, n'hésite pas, prends le train.
Pour ma part, j'ai emprunté le train "Baïkal" (sur la ligne qui relie Moscou à Irkoutsk). Au niveau du confort, de la propreté et surtout de la convivialité le niveau était nettement supérieur à nos trains belges.
Aucune idée du temps nécessaire, mais si tu souhaites plus de détails, va jeter un oeil sur mon blog http://solipas.blogspot.com
Bons préparatifs
Pierre
Le train est une alternative assez intéressante. Si tu aimes les rencontres, les beaux paysages et un soupçon d'aventure (vraiment très légère), alors, n'hésite pas, prends le train.
Pour ma part, j'ai emprunté le train "Baïkal" (sur la ligne qui relie Moscou à Irkoutsk). Au niveau du confort, de la propreté et surtout de la convivialité le niveau était nettement supérieur à nos trains belges.
Aucune idée du temps nécessaire, mais si tu souhaites plus de détails, va jeter un oeil sur mon blog http://solipas.blogspot.com
Bons préparatifs
Pierre
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Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January. I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck. I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue? Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Thanks!
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊






