Où se baser pour randonner dans le parc Sibillini
by Véromars
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Bonjour, nous voudrions randonner quelques jours dans le parc Sibillini mais nous ne voulons pas changer chaque soir d'hébergement. De ce fait y aurait-il un village qui serait le plus pratique pour les départs de randonnées à la journée ?
Merci pour votre aide.
Véronique
Véronique
Bonjour ,
Je puis vous dire le peu que je sais : la région est assez ... confidentielle !
la porte d'accès au parc des Monts Sybillins est NORCIA ; vous y trouverez qq infos, au compte gouttes, sur les randonnées . Le plus : c'est la ville des norceria ( charcuteries, renommées dans tte l'Italie) et de la truffe noire ; une maison sur 2 abrite un magasin de gourmandies ! Idéal pour se faire des pic nic gigantesques et ... gastronomiques . De là , montez vers Castellucio, où vous trouverez un refuge et , au moins , une auberge .
Ce village occupe une situation très centrale . De plus, si votre séjour peut se situer fin juin, début juillet, vous aurez l'occasion d'admirer un phénomène unique ( en Europe tt au moins ) : c'est la Fiorito ( floraison) sur le Piano Grande, plaine d'altitude qui se couvre de fleurs de ttes couleurs, changeant d'aspect au gré des jours !
Bonne recherche !
la porte d'accès au parc des Monts Sybillins est NORCIA ; vous y trouverez qq infos, au compte gouttes, sur les randonnées . Le plus : c'est la ville des norceria ( charcuteries, renommées dans tte l'Italie) et de la truffe noire ; une maison sur 2 abrite un magasin de gourmandies ! Idéal pour se faire des pic nic gigantesques et ... gastronomiques . De là , montez vers Castellucio, où vous trouverez un refuge et , au moins , une auberge .
Ce village occupe une situation très centrale . De plus, si votre séjour peut se situer fin juin, début juillet, vous aurez l'occasion d'admirer un phénomène unique ( en Europe tt au moins ) : c'est la Fiorito ( floraison) sur le Piano Grande, plaine d'altitude qui se couvre de fleurs de ttes couleurs, changeant d'aspect au gré des jours !
Bonne recherche !
Brigitte
Moi, je ne connais pas du tout... 😛
En regardant sur le plan les randonnées en boucle seulement et les temps de déplacement en voiture sur Mappy, il me semble qu'en s'installant à, ou près de, Arquata del Tronto, on arrive en disons moins d'une heure de route à Norcia, ou à Castelsantangelo sul Nera (voire Visso), ou à Montemonaco. De ces 4 localités ou tout près, il y a sur le plan des randonnées en boucle. Pour monter encore plus au nord, cela va commencer à faire loin d'Arquata del Tronto en revanche...
http://www.sibillini.net/il_parco/gps/percorsi.jpg
En regardant sur le plan les randonnées en boucle seulement et les temps de déplacement en voiture sur Mappy, il me semble qu'en s'installant à, ou près de, Arquata del Tronto, on arrive en disons moins d'une heure de route à Norcia, ou à Castelsantangelo sul Nera (voire Visso), ou à Montemonaco. De ces 4 localités ou tout près, il y a sur le plan des randonnées en boucle. Pour monter encore plus au nord, cela va commencer à faire loin d'Arquata del Tronto en revanche...
http://www.sibillini.net/il_parco/gps/percorsi.jpg
Mathilde
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oui, c'est un bel endroit mais qui n'a rien de plus que d'autres parcs montagneux : nature tres belle , animaux comme oiseaux , ...
Un gros inconvenient : c'est complètement excentre des circuits classiques : il faut vouloir aller la et pas ailleurs si ce n'est que pour randonner . vallees désertées la de leurs habitants , que des gens âgés et des bergers ... Mais 2 attraits majeurs, comme je l'ai dit : la ville de Norcia , vraie capitale de la truffe noire et des charcuteries : nous y étions fin decembre, avec comme ´themé : recherche de truffes avec un cavatore et ses chiens . 2eme attrait , qui fait que l'on songe a y retourner : la Fioritto , en debut d'ete : imaginez , entourée de montagnes , une plaine en altitude de plusieurs kms de long , pleine de fleurs sauvages : unique !
bonne recherche !
Un gros inconvenient : c'est complètement excentre des circuits classiques : il faut vouloir aller la et pas ailleurs si ce n'est que pour randonner . vallees désertées la de leurs habitants , que des gens âgés et des bergers ... Mais 2 attraits majeurs, comme je l'ai dit : la ville de Norcia , vraie capitale de la truffe noire et des charcuteries : nous y étions fin decembre, avec comme ´themé : recherche de truffes avec un cavatore et ses chiens . 2eme attrait , qui fait que l'on songe a y retourner : la Fioritto , en debut d'ete : imaginez , entourée de montagnes , une plaine en altitude de plusieurs kms de long , pleine de fleurs sauvages : unique !
bonne recherche !
Brigitte
dans le commune de Norcia , 22% des habitants ont plus de 65 ans : entre 22% de personnes agées et que des personnes agées , il y a une grosse marge
bonsoir,
je parlais de castellucio. Norcia n'est pas , ce me semble , au milieu du parc ...
je ne vois pas ce que cela aide , pour la personne qui veut y aller !
Une rem. : systématiquement, il faut que vous trouviez le micro truc a critiquer : a la longue , c.est lassant !
bonne soirée .
Une rem. : systématiquement, il faut que vous trouviez le micro truc a critiquer : a la longue , c.est lassant !
bonne soirée .
Brigitte
castelluccio fait partie de la commune de norcia ; perso , je ne connais rien à la physique nucléaire , je n'en parle pas de même que je ne parlerais pas de la démographie si je n'y connaissais rien , ou au moins je me documenterais avant de parler , tout comme parler de berger dans un secteur où l'essentiel de l'élevage ( qui occupe 1% de la population active ) est porcin ou bovin ; vous avez d'ailleurs beaucoup plus de chances de voir par là un ouvrier ( la zone industrielle de norcia occupe plus de place que le village ) qu'un éleveur
Bonjour ,
Au risque de vous offenser , je crains que vous n'y connaissiez pas grand chose non plus à la région des Monts Sybillins !
Personnellement , je ne me suis pas 'documentée' mais j'y suis allée : j'y ai passé une semaine , bavardé avec des personnes qui y vivent ... et fait des photos !
Alors , voilà : à Norcia, certes, il y a une zone industrielle .
On n'y pratique PAS l'élevage des porcins : on TRAITE leur viande et on la transforme mais elle ne vient pas de là ; peut-être l'un ou l'autre élève -t-il un cochon, mais ce n'est pas de l'élevage sur une grande échelle !
Je vous rappelle le titre de tous ces posts ( le Parc ...) et que, dans mon post ( je me répète), je ne parlais pas de Norcia, qui est une porte du Parc mais n'occupe pas du tout une situation centrale ( pas idéal donc pour randonner ) mais de Castellucio qui, lui, est un village sis au centre .


C'est en pensant à ce village que j'ai écrit : population âgée et BERGERS !
En effet, en arrivant par le Piano Grande ( sorte de plaine immense , entre les montagnes ), vous rencontrez au moins 2 GRANDS troupeaux de moutons ( pas 20, ni 50, mais au moins 200 chacun ! ) et ils sont encadrés par de nombreux chiens de bergers et , vous savez quoi ? , par des BERGERS ! Je joins des photos qui convaincront les incrédules ... Pour la personne qui demandait des infos sur le parc, je maintiens : la nature est grandiose mais, si vous y allez avec des ados , çà ne conviendra peut-être pas .


Je vous rappelle le titre de tous ces posts ( le Parc ...) et que, dans mon post ( je me répète), je ne parlais pas de Norcia, qui est une porte du Parc mais n'occupe pas du tout une situation centrale ( pas idéal donc pour randonner ) mais de Castellucio qui, lui, est un village sis au centre .


C'est en pensant à ce village que j'ai écrit : population âgée et BERGERS !
En effet, en arrivant par le Piano Grande ( sorte de plaine immense , entre les montagnes ), vous rencontrez au moins 2 GRANDS troupeaux de moutons ( pas 20, ni 50, mais au moins 200 chacun ! ) et ils sont encadrés par de nombreux chiens de bergers et , vous savez quoi ? , par des BERGERS ! Je joins des photos qui convaincront les incrédules ... Pour la personne qui demandait des infos sur le parc, je maintiens : la nature est grandiose mais, si vous y allez avec des ados , çà ne conviendra peut-être pas .


Brigitte
2 troupeaux ça fait 2 bergers , je n'ai pas dit qu'il y avait zero berger, j'ai dit que c'est completement marginal ; les enfants de castelluccio vont à l'école à norcia ( je suis bien plaçé pour le savoir , le jour où j'y suis allé j'ai suivi contraint et forcé le car de ramassage scolaire ), beaucoup de gens vont certainement travailler à norcia ( je ne connais personne à castelluccio , mais je ne vois pas pourquoi ça serait différent là que dans les hameaux du même genre en italie ou en france -je ne parle que de ce que je connais- ) , donc , si on a une voiture je ne vois pas où est le problème de loger à norcia ( ou une autre petite ville côté Marches )pour aller randonner
Bonjours ,
Voici de quoi vous faire une idée par vous - même !
De plus, je vous conseille de leur envoyer un mail : j'ai reçu une bonne carte du parc avec tous les villages, randos à pied , en mountain bike , ... et un aperçu des villages et logements possibles .
J'imagine qu'ils peuvent vous l'envoyer ...
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Bonnes recheches .
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Bonnes recheches .
Brigitte
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Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann







