Sécurité sous une toile de tente
by Greg8989
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Pour la première fois, je pars cet été en France, avec ma tente et mon fourgon. -budget oblige-
Je m'interroge sur les conditions de sécurité.
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En cas d'orage, évitez de rester sous la tente et partez vous abriter dans un endroit sûr (dans le fourgon par exemple) mais pas sous un arbre.
Pour la première fois, je pars cet été en France, avec ma tente et mon fourgon. -budget oblige- Je m'interroge sur les conditions de sécurité.
Pour la première fois, je pars cet été en France, avec ma tente et mon fourgon. -budget oblige- Je m'interroge sur les conditions de sécurité.
Vincent
Bonjoue
Je cite "En cas d'orage, évitez de rester sous la tente et partez vous abriter dans un endroit sûr (dans le fourgon par exemple) mais pas sous un arbre. "
= ah ok. J'apprends. Merci pour l'info. J'imagine que c'est pour la foudre. Difficile si l'orage se passe la nuit et que l'on dort. Est-ce qu'il existe par exemple quelque chose qui ressemble à des (ne vous moquez pas😠) paratonnerres pour mettre sous la tente ?
Je cite "En cas d'orage, évitez de rester sous la tente et partez vous abriter dans un endroit sûr (dans le fourgon par exemple) mais pas sous un arbre. "
= ah ok. J'apprends. Merci pour l'info. J'imagine que c'est pour la foudre. Difficile si l'orage se passe la nuit et que l'on dort. Est-ce qu'il existe par exemple quelque chose qui ressemble à des (ne vous moquez pas😠) paratonnerres pour mettre sous la tente ?
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Bonjour Greg.
Non, pas de problème particulier sous tente pour la foudre (pas plus que de rester dehors) surtout avec les tentes dômes modernes (je me rappelle enfant quand on mettait des pommes de terre sur les piquets des canadiennes en cas d'orage!). Heureusement qu'on ne quitte pas sa tente à chaque orage l'été 🤪. Le problème en cas d'orage, c'est plutôt le risque d'inondation de la tente: là il faut bien choisir l'emplacement, parfois creuser une rigole autour de la tente pour l'écoulement (mais cela est interdit dans certains campings). Ou la grêle qui peut trouer la toile de tente comme cela m'est arrivé l'été dernier (mais quand on voit que les récentes grêles ont même troué les pare-brises de voiture 🤪). Il faut arrêter de psychoter avec la foudre: les accidents sont tout de même rares.
Pour le reste, à quoi pensais-tu quand tu parlais de problèmes de sécurité? Si tu campes en camping, pas de problème particulier (ne pas laisser d'objets de valeur sous la tente tout de même). Pour le camping sauvage, ou plutôt le bivouac, le problème est surtout l'autorisation: on peut avoir des problèmes avec les gendarmes ou avec l'ONF (il y a beaucoup de parcs naturels en France avec des règles très variables en matière de camping sauvage/bivouac) ou même avec les propriétaires particuliers: le mieux est donc de demander avant de planter sa tente n'importe où, ou alors de se faire très discret (attendre la nuit et repartir au petit matin par exemple), et bien sûr ne laisser aucun déchet!
Bonnes vacances et bon camping.
P'tit' étoile.
Non, pas de problème particulier sous tente pour la foudre (pas plus que de rester dehors) surtout avec les tentes dômes modernes (je me rappelle enfant quand on mettait des pommes de terre sur les piquets des canadiennes en cas d'orage!). Heureusement qu'on ne quitte pas sa tente à chaque orage l'été 🤪. Le problème en cas d'orage, c'est plutôt le risque d'inondation de la tente: là il faut bien choisir l'emplacement, parfois creuser une rigole autour de la tente pour l'écoulement (mais cela est interdit dans certains campings). Ou la grêle qui peut trouer la toile de tente comme cela m'est arrivé l'été dernier (mais quand on voit que les récentes grêles ont même troué les pare-brises de voiture 🤪). Il faut arrêter de psychoter avec la foudre: les accidents sont tout de même rares.
Pour le reste, à quoi pensais-tu quand tu parlais de problèmes de sécurité? Si tu campes en camping, pas de problème particulier (ne pas laisser d'objets de valeur sous la tente tout de même). Pour le camping sauvage, ou plutôt le bivouac, le problème est surtout l'autorisation: on peut avoir des problèmes avec les gendarmes ou avec l'ONF (il y a beaucoup de parcs naturels en France avec des règles très variables en matière de camping sauvage/bivouac) ou même avec les propriétaires particuliers: le mieux est donc de demander avant de planter sa tente n'importe où, ou alors de se faire très discret (attendre la nuit et repartir au petit matin par exemple), et bien sûr ne laisser aucun déchet!
Bonnes vacances et bon camping.
P'tit' étoile.
Merci pour votre réponse, cela me rassure.
Quand je parlais de sécurité, c'est la sécurité en général (se faire attaquer, voler...). Compte tenu de mon budget, il se peut que je ne dorme pas forcément en camping mais peut-être que je campe sur des aires d'autoroute, parking supermarché, etc...
voilà.
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Merci pour votre réponse, cela me rassure.
Quand je parlais de sécurité, c'est la sécurité en général (se faire attaquer, voler...). Compte tenu de mon budget, il se peut que je ne dorme pas forcément en camping mais peut-être que je campe sur des aires d'autoroute, parking supermarché, etc...
voilà.
En pratique, vous ne serez pas autorisé à camper en dehors des campings, surtout avec une voiture, ce qui empêche de s'écarter des routes et d'aller dans des endroits discrets. Les aires d'autoroute sont des endroits généralement déconseillés. En France, l'ennemi principal du campeur est le moustique, suivi par la route nationale et la discothèque.
En pratique, vous ne serez pas autorisé à camper en dehors des campings, surtout avec une voiture, ce qui empêche de s'écarter des routes et d'aller dans des endroits discrets. Les aires d'autoroute sont des endroits généralement déconseillés. En France, l'ennemi principal du campeur est le moustique, suivi par la route nationale et la discothèque.
Merci pour votre réponse, cela me rassure.
Quand je parlais de sécurité, c'est la sécurité en général (se faire attaquer, voler...). Compte tenu de mon budget, il se peut que je ne dorme pas forcément en camping mais peut-être que je campe sur des aires d'autoroute, parking supermarché, etc...
voilà.
Alors là, les aires d'autoroute et les parking de supermarché, c'est vraiment à éviter en terme de sécurité: il est facile de s'y faire voler! (il y a des bandes spécialisées dans le vol sur les aires d'autoroute l'été 🏴☠️). Par contre il est souvent possible de planter sa tente au bord d'une petite route ou d'un chemin de campagne l'été, en démontant tôt la tente pour éviter les tracteurs et autres engins agricoles (surtout si on n'a pas demandé l'autorisation dans une ferme avant), ou encore dans un petit bois. Dans les petites communes, on peut toujours demander à la mairie (ou au bistrot du coin) où on peut planter sa tente pour une ou deux nuits. Dans certains coins, on peut aussi trouver des aires de bivouac avec un point d'eau et un sanitaire, à tarif très réduit ou même gratuites. Beaucoup de petits camping municipaux (quand ils existent encore!) sont également bons marchés à la campagne ou à la montagne.
Mais les aires d'autoroute, je déconseille fortement! (et les parking de supermarché, c'est vraiment pas l'endroit où j'aurais l'idée de planter ma tente pour dormir 🤪)
P'tit' étoile.
Alors là, les aires d'autoroute et les parking de supermarché, c'est vraiment à éviter en terme de sécurité: il est facile de s'y faire voler! (il y a des bandes spécialisées dans le vol sur les aires d'autoroute l'été 🏴☠️). Par contre il est souvent possible de planter sa tente au bord d'une petite route ou d'un chemin de campagne l'été, en démontant tôt la tente pour éviter les tracteurs et autres engins agricoles (surtout si on n'a pas demandé l'autorisation dans une ferme avant), ou encore dans un petit bois. Dans les petites communes, on peut toujours demander à la mairie (ou au bistrot du coin) où on peut planter sa tente pour une ou deux nuits. Dans certains coins, on peut aussi trouver des aires de bivouac avec un point d'eau et un sanitaire, à tarif très réduit ou même gratuites. Beaucoup de petits camping municipaux (quand ils existent encore!) sont également bons marchés à la campagne ou à la montagne.
Mais les aires d'autoroute, je déconseille fortement! (et les parking de supermarché, c'est vraiment pas l'endroit où j'aurais l'idée de planter ma tente pour dormir 🤪)
P'tit' étoile.
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Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann