Sécurité sous une toile de tente
by Greg8989
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Pour la première fois, je pars cet été en France, avec ma tente et mon fourgon. -budget oblige-
Je m'interroge sur les conditions de sécurité.
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En cas d'orage, évitez de rester sous la tente et partez vous abriter dans un endroit sûr (dans le fourgon par exemple) mais pas sous un arbre.
Pour la première fois, je pars cet été en France, avec ma tente et mon fourgon. -budget oblige- Je m'interroge sur les conditions de sécurité.
Pour la première fois, je pars cet été en France, avec ma tente et mon fourgon. -budget oblige- Je m'interroge sur les conditions de sécurité.
Vincent
Bonjoue
Je cite "En cas d'orage, évitez de rester sous la tente et partez vous abriter dans un endroit sûr (dans le fourgon par exemple) mais pas sous un arbre. "
= ah ok. J'apprends. Merci pour l'info. J'imagine que c'est pour la foudre. Difficile si l'orage se passe la nuit et que l'on dort. Est-ce qu'il existe par exemple quelque chose qui ressemble à des (ne vous moquez pas😠) paratonnerres pour mettre sous la tente ?
Je cite "En cas d'orage, évitez de rester sous la tente et partez vous abriter dans un endroit sûr (dans le fourgon par exemple) mais pas sous un arbre. "
= ah ok. J'apprends. Merci pour l'info. J'imagine que c'est pour la foudre. Difficile si l'orage se passe la nuit et que l'on dort. Est-ce qu'il existe par exemple quelque chose qui ressemble à des (ne vous moquez pas😠) paratonnerres pour mettre sous la tente ?
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Bonjour Greg.
Non, pas de problème particulier sous tente pour la foudre (pas plus que de rester dehors) surtout avec les tentes dômes modernes (je me rappelle enfant quand on mettait des pommes de terre sur les piquets des canadiennes en cas d'orage!). Heureusement qu'on ne quitte pas sa tente à chaque orage l'été 🤪. Le problème en cas d'orage, c'est plutôt le risque d'inondation de la tente: là il faut bien choisir l'emplacement, parfois creuser une rigole autour de la tente pour l'écoulement (mais cela est interdit dans certains campings). Ou la grêle qui peut trouer la toile de tente comme cela m'est arrivé l'été dernier (mais quand on voit que les récentes grêles ont même troué les pare-brises de voiture 🤪). Il faut arrêter de psychoter avec la foudre: les accidents sont tout de même rares.
Pour le reste, à quoi pensais-tu quand tu parlais de problèmes de sécurité? Si tu campes en camping, pas de problème particulier (ne pas laisser d'objets de valeur sous la tente tout de même). Pour le camping sauvage, ou plutôt le bivouac, le problème est surtout l'autorisation: on peut avoir des problèmes avec les gendarmes ou avec l'ONF (il y a beaucoup de parcs naturels en France avec des règles très variables en matière de camping sauvage/bivouac) ou même avec les propriétaires particuliers: le mieux est donc de demander avant de planter sa tente n'importe où, ou alors de se faire très discret (attendre la nuit et repartir au petit matin par exemple), et bien sûr ne laisser aucun déchet!
Bonnes vacances et bon camping.
P'tit' étoile.
Non, pas de problème particulier sous tente pour la foudre (pas plus que de rester dehors) surtout avec les tentes dômes modernes (je me rappelle enfant quand on mettait des pommes de terre sur les piquets des canadiennes en cas d'orage!). Heureusement qu'on ne quitte pas sa tente à chaque orage l'été 🤪. Le problème en cas d'orage, c'est plutôt le risque d'inondation de la tente: là il faut bien choisir l'emplacement, parfois creuser une rigole autour de la tente pour l'écoulement (mais cela est interdit dans certains campings). Ou la grêle qui peut trouer la toile de tente comme cela m'est arrivé l'été dernier (mais quand on voit que les récentes grêles ont même troué les pare-brises de voiture 🤪). Il faut arrêter de psychoter avec la foudre: les accidents sont tout de même rares.
Pour le reste, à quoi pensais-tu quand tu parlais de problèmes de sécurité? Si tu campes en camping, pas de problème particulier (ne pas laisser d'objets de valeur sous la tente tout de même). Pour le camping sauvage, ou plutôt le bivouac, le problème est surtout l'autorisation: on peut avoir des problèmes avec les gendarmes ou avec l'ONF (il y a beaucoup de parcs naturels en France avec des règles très variables en matière de camping sauvage/bivouac) ou même avec les propriétaires particuliers: le mieux est donc de demander avant de planter sa tente n'importe où, ou alors de se faire très discret (attendre la nuit et repartir au petit matin par exemple), et bien sûr ne laisser aucun déchet!
Bonnes vacances et bon camping.
P'tit' étoile.
Merci pour votre réponse, cela me rassure.
Quand je parlais de sécurité, c'est la sécurité en général (se faire attaquer, voler...). Compte tenu de mon budget, il se peut que je ne dorme pas forcément en camping mais peut-être que je campe sur des aires d'autoroute, parking supermarché, etc...
voilà.
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Merci pour votre réponse, cela me rassure.
Quand je parlais de sécurité, c'est la sécurité en général (se faire attaquer, voler...). Compte tenu de mon budget, il se peut que je ne dorme pas forcément en camping mais peut-être que je campe sur des aires d'autoroute, parking supermarché, etc...
voilà.
En pratique, vous ne serez pas autorisé à camper en dehors des campings, surtout avec une voiture, ce qui empêche de s'écarter des routes et d'aller dans des endroits discrets. Les aires d'autoroute sont des endroits généralement déconseillés. En France, l'ennemi principal du campeur est le moustique, suivi par la route nationale et la discothèque.
En pratique, vous ne serez pas autorisé à camper en dehors des campings, surtout avec une voiture, ce qui empêche de s'écarter des routes et d'aller dans des endroits discrets. Les aires d'autoroute sont des endroits généralement déconseillés. En France, l'ennemi principal du campeur est le moustique, suivi par la route nationale et la discothèque.
Merci pour votre réponse, cela me rassure.
Quand je parlais de sécurité, c'est la sécurité en général (se faire attaquer, voler...). Compte tenu de mon budget, il se peut que je ne dorme pas forcément en camping mais peut-être que je campe sur des aires d'autoroute, parking supermarché, etc...
voilà.
Alors là, les aires d'autoroute et les parking de supermarché, c'est vraiment à éviter en terme de sécurité: il est facile de s'y faire voler! (il y a des bandes spécialisées dans le vol sur les aires d'autoroute l'été 🏴☠️). Par contre il est souvent possible de planter sa tente au bord d'une petite route ou d'un chemin de campagne l'été, en démontant tôt la tente pour éviter les tracteurs et autres engins agricoles (surtout si on n'a pas demandé l'autorisation dans une ferme avant), ou encore dans un petit bois. Dans les petites communes, on peut toujours demander à la mairie (ou au bistrot du coin) où on peut planter sa tente pour une ou deux nuits. Dans certains coins, on peut aussi trouver des aires de bivouac avec un point d'eau et un sanitaire, à tarif très réduit ou même gratuites. Beaucoup de petits camping municipaux (quand ils existent encore!) sont également bons marchés à la campagne ou à la montagne.
Mais les aires d'autoroute, je déconseille fortement! (et les parking de supermarché, c'est vraiment pas l'endroit où j'aurais l'idée de planter ma tente pour dormir 🤪)
P'tit' étoile.
Alors là, les aires d'autoroute et les parking de supermarché, c'est vraiment à éviter en terme de sécurité: il est facile de s'y faire voler! (il y a des bandes spécialisées dans le vol sur les aires d'autoroute l'été 🏴☠️). Par contre il est souvent possible de planter sa tente au bord d'une petite route ou d'un chemin de campagne l'été, en démontant tôt la tente pour éviter les tracteurs et autres engins agricoles (surtout si on n'a pas demandé l'autorisation dans une ferme avant), ou encore dans un petit bois. Dans les petites communes, on peut toujours demander à la mairie (ou au bistrot du coin) où on peut planter sa tente pour une ou deux nuits. Dans certains coins, on peut aussi trouver des aires de bivouac avec un point d'eau et un sanitaire, à tarif très réduit ou même gratuites. Beaucoup de petits camping municipaux (quand ils existent encore!) sont également bons marchés à la campagne ou à la montagne.
Mais les aires d'autoroute, je déconseille fortement! (et les parking de supermarché, c'est vraiment pas l'endroit où j'aurais l'idée de planter ma tente pour dormir 🤪)
P'tit' étoile.
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Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
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Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro