Commencez par le voyage qui vous tente le plus et vous ferez les autres après....
J'ai fait les 4 et les 4 sont bien mais ont des charmes différents..
Il n'y a que vous qui pouvez choisir.
Si vous êtes sur que votre épouse aimera le désert n'hésitez pas. Si vous ne savez pas, préférez la croisière, c'est une valeur sure et l'egypte même en conditions moyennes ça vaut vraiment le coup.
Le désert aussi mais plus tard...
1°) Ou que vous alliez preférez mars - avril.
2°) ne prenez pas une semaine tt compris à djerba ou ailleurs.
3°) Si la tunisie à bcp de charme, le Maroc est plus grand, plus varié, plus facile .
4°) le harcélement touristique dans les souk a beaucoup diminué . De toute façon avant d acheter aller voir les prix dans magasins d état.
5°) Un circuit des villes imperiales est culturelemnt tres riche.
6°) Marrackech peut etre un point d encrage avec une ou deux excursions, vers la mer ( Essaouira),
ou vers une cité impériale ( Rabat ou Fes) ou vers le sud .
7°) Achetéz plutôt trois guides que pas du tout ! Le Routard pour les petits restos, le Michelin pour une vue plus globale et pour organiser le séjour plus éventuellement un autre guide sur un théme qui vs est cher (culture, histoire, religion ou autre)
8°) bougez en voiture de location ou en transport en commun mais bougez.
9°) Si j ai tort et si vs preferez la piscine de l'hotel prenez un voyage FRAM ou un sejour au club med.....
Entre les deux, mon coeur balance toujours... En fait, ce que je recherche, c'est avant tout de faire plaisir à ma femme en lui offrant son premier voyage. Vue la période, je recherche un climat des plus cléments ( pas simple à trouver en janvier ! ), et un endroit ou le passeport n'est pas nécessaire ( vu que c'est une surprise, je me vois mal faire les démarches pour obtenir un passeport ! ), et le tout pour un budget d'environ 1000 euros.
Les voyagistes contactés me proposent 3 destinations : Maroc, Tunisie et Egypte.
Je me suis donc penché sur la question, et ce qui me fait peur c'est le climat à cette période de l'année. J'ai lu un peu tout et son contraire.
Dans un premier temps, je m'orientais davantage vers la Tunisie, mais il semblerait que le climat ne soit pas super début janvier... Ensuite je me suis documenté sur le Maroc, ou il semblerait qu'il faille mieux s'orienter vers les terres plutôt que sur la côte... enfin, l'Egypte, ou on me propose une croisière sur le nil, mais là aussi, je n'ai pas pu trouver de renseignement fiable sur le climat début janvier...
Bref, je tatonne... alors si vous êtes de bon conseil, n'hésitez pas !
saluton ne peut pas assurer le tempmais d'habitude début janvier au sud tunisien le temps n'est pas mal... pour des renseignements sur le climat en janvier au sud de la Tunisie allez voir: http://www.meteo.tn/htmlfr/donnees/janv.html
c'est pas indiqué dans ces pages mais d'habitude le temp et plus beau au desert qu'au ville du sud indiqué dans cette page(Sfax, Djerba et Touzeur) malgré qu'il fait froid la nuit...pour le passpoprt en Tunisie Voila, si vous appelez l'ambassade de Tunisie sa va vous diriger vers l'Office national de tourisme tunisien ils vont vous dire qu'il suffisait de réserver 3 nuits minimum dans un hotel (par exemple à Djerba, Touzeur ou douz...) par une agence française, laquelle vous délivrerait un "votcher" (bon de sejour à l'hotel).Il faudra donc par la suite, présenter ce votcher et la carte d'identité à la douane et ca devrait etre bon.
il parait que le sud de la Tunisie et le meilleur.lol😉
pour plus d'information, des bons adresses ou d'aides contacter moi par MP
amicalement
bonsoir
cest vous choisire le maroc je crois cest mieux biensur cest mon paye et je suis sur ça vous plait beaucoup cest milonge culture et deferente traditions et payesages coleurs .pour le moment cest bon..
je ne suis jamais aller en tunisie mais plusieur fois au maroc il y a bine une ville que je te conseillerai pour 2 amoureux c bien essaouira ou la population est genial une ville paisible quand tu es sur le port en pleine journé que c vide u t'évade avec le son des mouettes essaouira c 'est vrement une ville a ne pas loumpé
Merci Chinchoune. Je suis André, de Montreal, Quebec. J'ai noté tout ce que vous avezecrit sur Marrakech. Je vais sur Paris le 25 decembre. Je me paye un cadeau de Noel hihihi. J'ai prévu Paris, Beaunes, Marseille, Nimes, Barcelone (cathedrale), et le traversier. Il me resteera 2 semaines pour le maroc. J'espere que J'aimerai autant que vous ces coins du monde. ? semaines en tout, mais en voiture..... est ce raisonnable ???je ne veux pas courrir. Sinon, me conseillez vous 1 semaine Paris, Paris- marrakech en avion, pour 3 ou 4 semaines, retour paris une autre semaine pour me remettre le Français dans la peau, et retour au froid (Québec ) Je n'ai que 2 fois 6 semaines par année et j'aimerais visiter cette planete. En été, 6 semaines perdues (enfants obligent) De toute façon, votre résumé de votre voyage a été pout moi le meilleur que j'ai lu à date. Ah, aussi une question... voir tout ca, seul... c'est faisable ? Merci, André.
A tous ceux qui ont lus ce message, Il y a un an, j'ai écrit sur ce site dans le cadre d'information sur le maroc une phrase completement hors contexte et hors propos, sur une fete de mon divorce. Je m'en excuse sincerement.Je ne suis pas divorcé et j'espere de tout coeur que ça n'arrivera jamais car j'ai une femme extraordinaire. Je traversais tout simplement une période très creuse dans ma vie. Toutefois, je tiens à remercier tous les gens qui m'ont aidés à traverser cette période difficile, en répondants ¸a mon message sur ce merveilleux pays bleu et or. Cela m'a permis de me retrouver face à face avec moi même.J'ai fait un voyage fabuleux avec des gens d'une largesse d'esprit extraordinaire. Alors, à tous ceux qui se cherchent, ou qui cherchent un endroit spécial , un oasis de pays et de calme, Je vous recommande chaleureusement ce pays, le Maroc. C'est un pays qui allie, les gens, leurs coutumes, la température, les sourires, la bonté et la beauté. Tout ce qu'il faut pour que les coeurs, corps et âmes égarés puissent se retrouver dans la paix. Dorénavent, je n'utiliserai ce site pour la seule raison de son existance :'' Information sur les voyages''. Je prévois que tous mes prochains voyages se feront au bras de ma complice de toujours, ma femme. Merci à tous ces gens qui m'ont ouvert les yeux, leurs portes, leurs mosquées. C'est un pays magnifique que je recommande à tous ceux qui désirent découvrir la Paix. Cette paix qu'on a tous besoin un jour ou l'autre. Bon voyage à tous et merci.
Et bien prenez un voyage en séjour avec Marmara à l'hotel Marackech qui se trouve en plein centre pour les visites des souks, de la très grande place jemfna et aussi à l'hotel faites plusieurs escursions ex : Essaouira, le col en 4x4 etc pour un premier voyage ce sera vraiment dépaysant sans trop vous ruiner et cool sans stress mais pour la piscine c'est pas la peine à cette époque de l'année ou alors attendre fin mai pour un peu plus de chaleur car le maroc comme la Tunisie il y fait chaud qu'au printemps et en été comme chez nous dans le sud de la france.
Les marocains sont des gents très sympas et il faut aussi lui faire connaître une soirée dans un riad (voir à l'hôtel ce n'est pas beaucoup plus cher que par un guide sur place et vous serez plus tranquille.
Excellent voyage
Isa
des meilleures idées, autres que de conseiller le plus médiocre des TO, et son pire hotel au Maroc, il peut y en avoir des tonnes,
il lui suffit d'aller dans la rubrique Ad Hoc :
http://voyageforum.com/voyage/F67/
Le col, lequel? (l'absence de lieu veut tout dire...). évidemment en 4X4, cela va de soi Véra.
Justement, si c'est un premier voyage au Maroc, et pour stimuler l'envie, ne serait-ce pas préférable d'éviter de proposer ce genre de "soupes fadasses"...
A l'aide du moteur de recherches de ce forum, il est très facile de se concocter un séjour plus que sympa. Et au besoin de revenir poser ses questions auxquelles ceux qui peuvent répondre intelligemment ne manqueront pas de le faire.
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊