J'envisage d'aller à Belgrade par le train (départ Paris).
Quels sont les différents trajets possibles et horaires de façon à arriver à Belgrade au plus tard samedi dans l'après midi ?
Il faut que tu traverses l' Allemagne du sud, l' Autriche, la Slovénie et la Croatie si tu as un délai fixe à respecter.
Exemple:
Paris dép.: 14.43
Saarbrücken arr.: 16.33 / dép.: 16.50
Mannheim arr.: 18.19 / dép.: 19.33
München arr.: 22.34 / dép.: 23.45
Beograd arr.: 15.33
Ce sont des trains ICE (version allemande du TGV) de Paris jusqu' à Munich, donc résa + supplément indispensable avec carte interrail.
Si ta gestion du temps te le permet, je te conseille d' utiliser des trains plus lents (pour éviter les résas et économiser les suppléments) et de choisir un parcours plus aventurier, par exemple descendre toute l' Italie jusqu' à Bari, puis ferry Bari - Durres (Albanie), remonter en train jusqu' à Shkoder, traverser la frontière Albanie - Montenégro en faisant du stop jusqu' à Podgorica (rien à craindre!! Je l' ai fait 2 fois dans le sens inverse),
puis train Podgorica - Belgrade.
Autre solution, peut-être plus simple, c'est de faire Paris-Zagreb, puis Zagreb-Belgrade.
Je crois qu'il y a un départ par jour de Paris vers Zagreb, je ne sais pas exactement vers quelle heure mais il me semble que c'est plutôt des trains de nuit. Une fois à Zagreb, tu n'auras pas trop de difficultés à trouver des trains ou même des bus vers Belgrade.
Sinon, j'avais fait une fois Paris-Belgrade en train, mais en passant par la Suisse: Paris-Bale, Bale-Vienne (cette partie du trajet est vraiment magnifique), et Vienne-Belgrade en passant par Budapest qui vaut aussi le détour. Il faut compter environ 24h.
Voilà.
Bon voyage.
La solution que j' ai mentionné au début de mon dernier message est bel et bien la façon la plus simple et rapide de rejoindre Belgrade depuis Paris.
Le célèbre train de nuit - dép 17.49 depuis Paris Est - qui conduisait des voitures directs pour un tas de destinations en Europe orientale a été supprimé il y a quelques années, seule la branche Strasbourg - Vienne pouvait résister à la concurrence aérienne.
Ta solution via la Suisse serait un bonne alternative, (paysage très pittoresque entre Zurich et Salzbourg) même si tout passage via Vienne prolonge automatiquement le voyage. A noter que tous les trains Corail (y compris le train de nuit) Paris - Bâle ont été supprimés en faveur de 4 correspondances TGV Paris - Strasbourg - Bâle par jour (donc résa obligatoire).
salut schuempi, je me permets de te déranger car ce printemps j'irai en albanie-macedoine-serbie-montenegro et je viens de lire dans un de tes messages que tu a fait 2 fois shkoder-podgorica en stop. Est-ce que cela signifie qu'il n'y a pas de transports publics réguliers entre albanie et montenegro? as tu des infos plus précises à ce sujet et aussi entre Pogradec et Ohrid (macédoine). Comment voyages-tu en albanie et trouve-t'on facilement des logements à prix abordables (chambre chez l'habitant, pensions locales......). As tu aussi des infos pratiques sur serbie-montenegro. merci à bientôt et bonne année. richard parisi
Tu ne me déranges pas, je te raconte volontiers mes expériences. Effectivement, il n' y a pas de transports publics réguliers entre l' albanie et le monténégro. La seule ligne transfrontalière qui a été construite aux années 80 - celle qui relie Podgorica à Skoder - sert uniquement au trafic marchandises. A l' intérieur du pays, il y a un trafic ferroviaire peu dévéloppé (http://www.hsh.com.al/eng/default.htm / http://www.railfaneurope.net/links.html), mais très intéressant pour l' aficionado des chemins de fer que je suis. Volià ce que t' attend:
Au fond à droite, tu peux apercevoir un bout du lac d' Ohrid. Ce train "file" vers Pogradec.
Le réseau des autobus est plus dense que celui des trains, et les correspondances Province-Tirana-Province sont assez nombreuses. Donc, si tu veux te rendre de Saranda a Pogradec, tu dois probablement passer par Tirana, même si ce n' est pas le chemin "logique" du point de vue géographique. Mais ceci est à voir sur place. Il y a aussi les "furgon", les albanais désignent ainsi les minibus à 9 places. Ceux-ci sont plus chèrs, mais aussi plus vite que les bus ordinaires. Leurs chauffeurs remplissent le véhicule, encaissent et appuyent sur le champignon. Au pire, tu trouveras toujours un automobiliste qui sentira le fric, t' abordera et t' emmènera contre une somme modeste au moins jusqu' à la frontière albano-macédonienne.
Bref, on peut bien bouger en Albanie, mais pour les horaires, il faut voir sur place. Ma dernière visite de l' Albanie était en 2005, et je ne pense pas que les choses aient beaucoup évolués depuis.
Les chambres chez l' habitant sont quasiment inexistants, au moins dans les grandes villes. J' ai lu, dans un autre message, que tu veux aller à Saranda. Là-bas, c' est peut-être différent, car Saranda est un endroit touristique. On trouve facilment des pensions locales ou des hôtels, mais les prix font un bond incroyable quand les gérants aperçoivent ma gueule suisse. On paye beaucoup trop pour la prestation qu' ils fournissent. Et je voyage toujours avec mon sac-à-dos, ne possédant aucun signe ostentatiore de richesse...
Que veux-tu savoir sur la Serbie et le Monténégro? J' ai maintes fois traversé la Serbie, toujours par voies ferrées, et je connais Beograd (la délabrée, souffrante), Novi Sad (la gaie qui bouge, c' est en tout cas cette impression que j' ai gardée) et la Vojvodina. Pour circuler en Serbie: http://www.serbianrailways.com/
Je garde un image très positif de la Macedoine. J' ai découvert ce pays en 2006, le traversant de long en large. J' ai vu Kicevo, Bitola, le parc national du Pelister, le lac d' Ohrid et Skopje. J' étais en voyage avec un copain, et les gens nous appellaient à leur table pour partager le repas, la bière, le raki, l' ivresse, des moments de gaieté et la gueule de bois avec eux. Ohrid est beau, mais un brin trop touristique. Admirateur de la montagne, j' ai bien apprécié notre séjour dans un bungalow à Nizepole, près de Bitola. A Skopje, tu trouveras une pension sympa au quartier albanais, derrière le marché, mais je ne me rappelle plus du nom de cette auberge.
Voilà, n' hésite pas à me (re-)contacter, je t' aiderai avec plaisir de préparer ton voyage
salut claudio et merci pour ta réponse, je vais devoir te déranger en core une fois car j'ai lu que tu as visité macédoine en 2006 et comment as-tu voyagé dans ces parcs nationaux (bus...??) et as-tu franchi la frontière albanaise (depuis Ohrid)?? ET la ville e'Ohrid est-elle vraiment un must à ne pas manquer, ?? qu'en est-il des logements bon marché dans cette ville touristique?? et que conseilles-tu comme itinéraire pour y aller depuis Igumenitsa en Grèce, ; ? 1) prendre le bus jusqu'à Florina (nord de la Grèce) puis Bitola (Macédoine) et Ohrid ou bien est-ce mieux de ; 2) traverser direct par l'Albanie jusqu'à Pogradec et traverser la frontière entre cette ville et Ohrid????? merci d'avance et à bientôt. richard
Pour se rendre de Bitola a Nizepole (Pelister), on avait recours à un taxi. Prix: 5 Euro par trajet (20 kilomètres env.). On y restait 2 jours pour faire des randonnées sur les collines qui entourent Nizepole. Les chemins pédestres ne sont pas balisés, tu devrais donc te munir d' une carte de randonnée de la région.
Non, je n' ai pas franchi la frontière albano-macédonienne. J' entrais en Macédoine par Kocani (venant de la Bulgarie), et j' en sortais par Tabanovci pour découvrir la Serbie. Ohrid est vraiment incontournable. Quant aux prix des auberges, il faut compter avec 30 Euros la nuit, taxes et petit déjeuner inclus.
Je te conseille de passer par Florina - Bitola. Je ne pense pas qu' il y ait des transports publics qui circulent régulièrement entre ces deux villes,
mais beaucoup de grecs traversent la frontière pour faire des courses à Bitola, ce qui peut faciliter la chose pour les stoppeurs. Depuis la gare routière de Bitola. il y a plusieurs départs quotidiens pour Ohrid.
je voudrais savoir c'est qu'elle compagnir de train qui fait ces voyages en trin ? je compte allé a skopje en février mais les billet d'avions sont beaucoup trop cher donc je souhaiterais savoir c'est combien un billet en trin pour allé jusqu'a skopje ?
bjr Schuempi comment allez vs ! je vois que tu as une idée sur les voyage par train et ts ;) je veux savoir comment faire pour voyager de la serbie vers l'italie ou la france par train ou par bus et merci d'avance :) a tt
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Hi there,
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Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
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10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
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We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
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