Sommets "faciles" au Népal
by Cecilefifi
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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je pars dans deux mois au nepal pour donner de mon temps dans un orphelinat durant 5 mois je souhaitais a la fin de mon sejour faire une ascension d'un 6000m mais aout n'est pa la bonne saiso donc je souhaite le faire amon arrivee en avril, quelqu'un pourrai t-il me donner des conseils sur des sommets ''facile'' sachant que j'ai la condition physique et la pratique de la montagne mais pas a cette altitude.
et egalement apres mon sejour je souhaite voir le tibet et l'inde du nord, sachant que je pars seule, est il possible de faire ce trajet donc si vous avez des conseils je suis prenante car je me lance dans l'aventure et je souhaite que cela se passe au mieux et si des gens sont interessez contcter moi.
merci de vos reponses
cecile
bonjour,
pour un sommet de 6000 ou plus tout est possible... mais :
si tu veux faire les choses convenablement il faut penser "sommet de trek" et donc une organisation avec officier de liaison et Cie...
Dans le cas contraire, on peut tj penser à y aller seul mais à la condition de ne pas se faire "chopper"... et donc de payer une amende et de ne plus pouvoir mettre les pieds au Nepal (domage)
Le Lonely sur les trek est intéressant et il fourni qq pistes pour les sommets de trek.
de tte façon, sauf pour de sommets "techniques" il ssont a vaches.
la difficulté de l'altitude est un paramêtre important et il est préférable de s'y acclimater sereinement qu'au sein d'un groupe où la question de l'individus passe parfois au 2e plan.
Je te conseille d'aller ds la zone de l'Everest où il est possible d'avoir une approche via Jiri (ce qui donne un bon entrainement)et après de se ballader entre les 3/4 vallées qui partent de Namche (Thame, Gokyo, EBC, Chukung) puis terminer sur un sommet de trek (island P ou Mera P).
bon courage
pour un sommet de 6000 ou plus tout est possible... mais :
si tu veux faire les choses convenablement il faut penser "sommet de trek" et donc une organisation avec officier de liaison et Cie...
Dans le cas contraire, on peut tj penser à y aller seul mais à la condition de ne pas se faire "chopper"... et donc de payer une amende et de ne plus pouvoir mettre les pieds au Nepal (domage)
Le Lonely sur les trek est intéressant et il fourni qq pistes pour les sommets de trek.
de tte façon, sauf pour de sommets "techniques" il ssont a vaches.
la difficulté de l'altitude est un paramêtre important et il est préférable de s'y acclimater sereinement qu'au sein d'un groupe où la question de l'individus passe parfois au 2e plan.
Je te conseille d'aller ds la zone de l'Everest où il est possible d'avoir une approche via Jiri (ce qui donne un bon entrainement)et après de se ballader entre les 3/4 vallées qui partent de Namche (Thame, Gokyo, EBC, Chukung) puis terminer sur un sommet de trek (island P ou Mera P).
bon courage
merci pour ta reponse mais j'ai bien l'intention de passer par une agence.
Sais tu si c'est possible etant seule de passer via le tibet pour aller au tibet
cecile
Namasté cécile,
pour ce qui est du Nepal, tu peux effectivement faire quelques belles ascensions à plus de 6.000 m sans trop de difficultés mais il faut tout de même avoir une pratique de la montagne avec un minimum d'experience car certains passages même sur les plus faciles (comme l'Island Peak) demandent un minimum de precautions et de baggages techniques.
Le Mera Peak qui est un peu plus "facile" techniquement reste piegeux car son glacier debonnaire presente parfois des crevasses plutot difficiles à franchir, là, seul le petit mur fnal (20/30 m) se reléve mais sans trop, par contre le sommet est plus haut et l'endroit plus sauvage (à prendre en compte en cas de pépin....)
En un peu plus dur, tu as le Pachermo dans la vallée du Rohwaling au depart de Jiri, là la derniere partie à partir du col est un peu plus raide (le dernier jour donc mais pas tres longue non plus) avec itinéeraire et murs plus ou moins raide à franchir (en période, equipée de cordes fixes mais tout de même, il "faut y aller" ... et penser à la descente ) mais surtout le soucis, c'est d'arriver sous le col du Tashi Lapsa qui est lui franchement de plus en plus délicat chaque année (chutes de pierre, dalles glissante et exposées, etc ....). Penses bien à planter ton camp (le dernier jour au col avant le sommet ) à l'abri des pierres qui tombent du sommet rocher que tu auras dans le dos ...sinon, la traversée ensuiote et la redescente sur le Khumbu en font vraiment un grand moment d'autant que la vallée est tres peu parcourue en ce moment ...
Si tu veux vraiment ne pas avoir de sommet technique et ne pas emporter de matériel, vas dans la vallée de l'Everest (Khumbu) et monte aux alentours du Gokyo, là ne rentre en jeu que l'altitude.
Pour le Tibet, bien entendu que tu peux y aller toute seule mais il faidra que tu trouves un groupe pour passer la frontière et obtenir ton permis, aprés, tu fais ce que tu veux (ou presque .....) !!!
Pour les agences, pas de soucis, il y a de quoi, si tu en veux une vraiment serieuse, envoie moi un MP.😉
pour ce qui est du Nepal, tu peux effectivement faire quelques belles ascensions à plus de 6.000 m sans trop de difficultés mais il faut tout de même avoir une pratique de la montagne avec un minimum d'experience car certains passages même sur les plus faciles (comme l'Island Peak) demandent un minimum de precautions et de baggages techniques.
Le Mera Peak qui est un peu plus "facile" techniquement reste piegeux car son glacier debonnaire presente parfois des crevasses plutot difficiles à franchir, là, seul le petit mur fnal (20/30 m) se reléve mais sans trop, par contre le sommet est plus haut et l'endroit plus sauvage (à prendre en compte en cas de pépin....)
En un peu plus dur, tu as le Pachermo dans la vallée du Rohwaling au depart de Jiri, là la derniere partie à partir du col est un peu plus raide (le dernier jour donc mais pas tres longue non plus) avec itinéeraire et murs plus ou moins raide à franchir (en période, equipée de cordes fixes mais tout de même, il "faut y aller" ... et penser à la descente ) mais surtout le soucis, c'est d'arriver sous le col du Tashi Lapsa qui est lui franchement de plus en plus délicat chaque année (chutes de pierre, dalles glissante et exposées, etc ....). Penses bien à planter ton camp (le dernier jour au col avant le sommet ) à l'abri des pierres qui tombent du sommet rocher que tu auras dans le dos ...sinon, la traversée ensuiote et la redescente sur le Khumbu en font vraiment un grand moment d'autant que la vallée est tres peu parcourue en ce moment ...
Si tu veux vraiment ne pas avoir de sommet technique et ne pas emporter de matériel, vas dans la vallée de l'Everest (Khumbu) et monte aux alentours du Gokyo, là ne rentre en jeu que l'altitude.
Pour le Tibet, bien entendu que tu peux y aller toute seule mais il faidra que tu trouves un groupe pour passer la frontière et obtenir ton permis, aprés, tu fais ce que tu veux (ou presque .....) !!!
Pour les agences, pas de soucis, il y a de quoi, si tu en veux une vraiment serieuse, envoie moi un MP.😉
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
Salut !
Est ce qu'un sommet comme le Mera Peak te semble accessible à une personne qui a une expérience très faible de l'alpinisme, c'est à dire plus concrêtement une semaine de stage alpinime avec l'UCPA (... encore que, je ne l'ai pas encore faite 😛) ?
Merci, A+
Est ce qu'un sommet comme le Mera Peak te semble accessible à une personne qui a une expérience très faible de l'alpinisme, c'est à dire plus concrêtement une semaine de stage alpinime avec l'UCPA (... encore que, je ne l'ai pas encore faite 😛) ?
Merci, A+
merci pour tes reposesqui me seront bien utiles maisj'ai de l'experience en montagne et neige mais pas a cette altitude c'est pour cela que je recherche quequechose dans mes cordes.
encore merci pour tes explications
cecile
Une semaine avec L'UCPA me aprait bien peu en regard de l'ascension qui comme je l'ai dit n'est pas tres difficile mais comporte quelques pièges que tout un chacun aura parfois du mal à deceler ..
Son coté débonnaire fait que chaque année il ya des accidents plus ou moins graves car des "amateurs" (rien de péjoratif là dedans) se lancent à son assaut croyant pouvoir braver les pièges du terrain🤪.
Cependant, si tu es tres sportif, que tu es bien entouré (j'imagine que vous allez prendre une agence pour cela ? ) et que tu as fais une petite semaine, tu peux toujours tenter l'ascension; Si jamais tu n'y arrives pas, tu auras au moins eu le plaisir de partager ton sséjour avec des gens (le ssherpas) super sympa et tu auras traverser quelques beaux paysages et vallées, cela restrera de toute manière dans ta mémoire 😉 De toute manière, le sommet n'est glaciare que le dernier jour (en aller retour) ainsi qu'un peu le jour precedent pour acceder au col ou vous dormirez; Justement, avant cette étape, je te conseille de dormir au viallge de Tagnang (4300m je crois bien), les habitats sont chaleureux et cela te permettra de t'acclimater, même si tu ne fais rien, passes y 2 jours pour te laisser le max de chances, laisses les autres monter d'un seul coup !!
Voilà, si tu veux d'autres infos, n'hésites pas 😉
Cependant, si tu es tres sportif, que tu es bien entouré (j'imagine que vous allez prendre une agence pour cela ? ) et que tu as fais une petite semaine, tu peux toujours tenter l'ascension; Si jamais tu n'y arrives pas, tu auras au moins eu le plaisir de partager ton sséjour avec des gens (le ssherpas) super sympa et tu auras traverser quelques beaux paysages et vallées, cela restrera de toute manière dans ta mémoire 😉 De toute manière, le sommet n'est glaciare que le dernier jour (en aller retour) ainsi qu'un peu le jour precedent pour acceder au col ou vous dormirez; Justement, avant cette étape, je te conseille de dormir au viallge de Tagnang (4300m je crois bien), les habitats sont chaleureux et cela te permettra de t'acclimater, même si tu ne fais rien, passes y 2 jours pour te laisser le max de chances, laisses les autres monter d'un seul coup !!
Voilà, si tu veux d'autres infos, n'hésites pas 😉
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
pour l'instant je suis seule mais j'espere quand passant par une agence sur place je epuxjoindre un groupe
cécile, quel beau projet... dans quel orphelinat vas-tu..je serai assez intéressée..je suis déjà partie à calcutta l'été dernier dans les dispensaires de soeur thérésa...
Quant à ton ascension, je pense que sur place tu auras des renseignements très facilement ainsi que des contacts...pour ce qui est de l'inde du nord, je n'ai vu que calcutta, dehli et benares et j'ai aimé ces trois villes...mais attention, ça bouge, y a du mouvement c'est bruyant mais il ya ce quelque chose de particulier...darjeeling a séduit plusieurs des volontaires, je te le conseille aussi...
désolée je ne peux guère t'aider pour ton ascension mais j'ai été juste heureuse de te parler de cette inde si belle
Pour des sommets faciles, je te suggère la région de l'Everest. Le trek de l'Everest par la vallée de Gokyo permet d'accéder au Gokyo Ri (environ 5 600 m). Gokyo est un minuscule village situé au pied de la moraine du glacier Ngojumba sur la rive du Grand lac de Gokyo. Le trek de l'Everest par la vallée de Lobuche conduit au Kala Pattar, un pic d'un peu plus de 5 400 m. La vue sur l'Everest y est superbe. On peut joindre les deux par un sentier de traverse allant de la vallée de Gokyo à la vallée de Lobuche via le col Cho La (5 420 m). Les paysages y sont à couper le souffle. Ces sommets ne sont aucunement techniques et ne nécessitent aucun équipement spécial. La traversée du Cho La est un peu plus difficile car la pente est très raide et la traversée est longue. Le trek de l'Everest via Gokyo et le Cho La implique la traversée du glacier Ngojumba. Mieux vaut être accompagné par un guide pour cette partie de l'itinéraire car la piste n'est pas toujours évidente. Si tu voyages avec une agence... aucun problème car ces itinéraires sont des classiques au Népal. Bonne chance dans la réalisation de ton projet.
Aziman
Aziman
Mon voyage au Népal: Zone Himalaya ; L'actualité en Himalaya et au Népal: Bulletin Info-Himalaya
Merci pour ta réponse.
A l'heure actuelle, je n'ai rien de vraiment prévu: j'attends d'abord ma semaine de stage UCPA 😄. En tout cas, c'est clair qu'inexpérimenté comme je le suis, je ne me lancerai pas dans une ascencion de ce type sans passer par une agence sérieuse.
A+ Samuel
A l'heure actuelle, je n'ai rien de vraiment prévu: j'attends d'abord ma semaine de stage UCPA 😄. En tout cas, c'est clair qu'inexpérimenté comme je le suis, je ne me lancerai pas dans une ascencion de ce type sans passer par une agence sérieuse.
A+ Samuel
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We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance




