La Suisse en visa Schengen?
by Valantino126
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
je ne sais pas si la suisse a déja entré à l'espace schengen ou non
est ce que je serai bloqué à l'aéroport de Geneve si j'ai seulement un visa schengen ??
merci
karim
Karim
Le visa Schengen sera effectif chez nous en janvier 2009, pas avant. Donc visa obligatoire si tu souhaites sortir de l'aéroport
Victoria
Contrairement a ce que dit notre amie Vic 😉 tu peux entrer en Suisse avec un visa schengen car la Suisse a passé des accord pour être dans l'Espace Economique Européen avec la libre circulation des ressortissants européens ou bénéficiaires d'un visa schengen. Par contre un visa Suisse ne permet pas a un ressortissant étranger de voyager dans l'aepace schengen, d'ou la confusion.
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
La Commission a entamé ses négociations avec la Suisse en juin 2002. Ces négociations ont abouti à la signature, le 26 octobre 2004, d'un accord entre l'UE et la Suisse (Journal officiel L 370 du 17.12.2004). L'extension de l'espace Schengen à la Suisse devrait intervenir en novembre 2008.
Pour ce qui est du Liechtenstein, le Conseil a adopté une décision le 28 février 2008 relative à la signature d'un protocole sur l'adhésion du Liechtenstein à l'accord du 26 octobre 2004. En raison du décalage concernant l'entrée en vigueur de l'accord et de son protocole, l'extension de l'espace Schengen au Liechtenstein interviendrait ultérieurement. Des solutions sont à l'étude pour éviter toute incidence négative concernant le franchissement des frontières entre ce pays et ses voisins.
Victoria
Je te parle de l'accord pour l'EEE sur la libre circulation! qui date de bien avant sinon comment ma copine thai viendrait-elle me voir en attérissant a Cointrin, zone internationale en SUISSE avec un visa SCHENGEN? 😛 c'est pas de la théorie, c'est de la pratique, du vécu sur le terrain, je dis que tu te trompes sinon vas expliquer ca aux douaniers dont c'est le métier 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
est-ce que j'ai seulement contesté ton commentaire ? je ne le crois pas. j'ai juste rajouté le texte officiel. punkt schluss
Victoria
punkt schluss 😛😉😄😏😏 ok, désolé j'avais cru que justement tu le contestait en te basant sur le texte officiel 😉 mets un commentaire la prochaine sinon c'est pas clair ou adresses toi a la personne qui pose la question car la c'est a moi que tu as répondu shneeputz 😛
Amicalement 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Salut
Le visa Schengen ne permet que le transit par la Suisse.
L'accord sur la validité réciproque des visas (suisse et Schengen) de séjour ne sera appliqué qu'à la fin de l'année 2008, si tout va bien, sinon ce sera début 2009 et encore...
fayd
Cordialement
Fayd
Salut fayd,
On va régulièrement en Suisse ou l'on séjourne de temps a autres et il n'y a jamais eu de problèmes a la douane quand on a le passeport et le visa schengen, je répète et maintien que ca marche dans un sens mais pas dans l'autre, a partir de fin 2008 ou début 2009, avec un visa suisse on pourra venir voyager dans l'espace schengen, ce qui n'est pas le cas actuellement en effet, d'ou la confusion quer j'avais mentionné précèdemmment. Je connais de nombreux autres personnes dans le même cas.
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Coucou,
Thaïlande = statut spécial
Ressortissants étrangers au bénéfice d’un visa des Etats de Schengen
L’obligation du visa Suisse a été levée en faveur des ressortissants des pays mentionnés ci-dessous s’ils sont titulaires d’un passeport diplomatique, de service, spécial ou ordinaire et d’un visa des Etats de Schengen à entrées multiples valable : Arabie-Saoudite, Bahreïn, Emirats-Arabes-Unis, Koweït, Oman, Qatar, Thaïlande, (ainsi que Taiwan, mais uniquement pour les titulaires de passeport ordinaires).
Finalisation des accords pour la circulation des personnes fin 2008.
Site officiel, oeuf corse.
Danielle
Thaïlande = statut spécial
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L’obligation du visa Suisse a été levée en faveur des ressortissants des pays mentionnés ci-dessous s’ils sont titulaires d’un passeport diplomatique, de service, spécial ou ordinaire et d’un visa des Etats de Schengen à entrées multiples valable : Arabie-Saoudite, Bahreïn, Emirats-Arabes-Unis, Koweït, Oman, Qatar, Thaïlande, (ainsi que Taiwan, mais uniquement pour les titulaires de passeport ordinaires).
Finalisation des accords pour la circulation des personnes fin 2008.
Site officiel, oeuf corse.
Danielle
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
Salut seniorCH
Merci pour la liste
Je suppose que l'épouse de boubastic est thailandaise, donc elle peut séjourner en Suise avec un visa Schengen
voici le site a consulter
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/fr/home/them...
Prescription de visa
Liste des nationalités, cliquer sur la première lettre de la sienne, et s'il apparaît le chiffre 13, c'est que le visa schengen est valable en Suisse.
Notre ami du Maroc qui a posé la question ne peut pas séjourner en Suisse avec un visa Schengen.
Cordialement
fayd
Cordialement
Fayd
OK merci tatie 😉 voila qui explique le pourquoi du comment, j'avais la flegme de faire la recherche. Comme ca, ca met tout le monde d'accord 😎
PS. Oui fayd mon épouse est bien thaie 🙂
PS. Oui fayd mon épouse est bien thaie 🙂
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Il me semble que l'aeroport de Geneve se trouvant a la frontiere, il est possible de sortir du cote francais (et donc entrer en France sans jamais rencontrer des douaniers suisses).
Donc si ta destination n'est pas la suisse, pas de souci ...
Donc si ta destination n'est pas la suisse, pas de souci ...
Oui tu as raison l'aéroport est bien a la frontière avec une zone sur le coté français mais pour les vols internationaux tu es obligé de passer par le coté suisse il me semble bien (j'ai un petit doute mais c'est ce que j'ai toujours fait) 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
From http://www.gva.ch/fr/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-48/ :
"A l'arrivée à l'Aéroport International de Genève, quelle que soit la compagnie aérienne et quel que soit l'aéroport de provenance (y compris un aéroport de transit), les passagers en possession d'un visa Schengen pour la France (Union Européenne) peuvent se rendre par voie terrestre en France, à travers le "secteur France", sans passer par la Suisse."
Autre lien utile: http://www.accueil-france.org/
Autre lien utile: http://www.accueil-france.org/
Oui tu as raison (d'ou mon petit doute 😉) mais c'est vraiment pas très pratique pour les bagages et il y a un assez long couloir a parcourir pour y aller, en plus le parking coté français est très cher (plus que le coté suisse) et peu pratique, il faut vraiment une bonne raison (comme celle de ne pas avoir de visa pour la suisse en effet) pour le faire.
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Pour la niéme fois, que viennent faire les douaniers dans cette histoire ?.....🤪
Xavier.
All know that French fries are Belgian.
Pour la niéme fois, que viennent faire les douaniers dans cette histoire ?.....🤪
Le Maroc (pays ou se trouve l'auteur du premier message) ne faisant pas encore partie de la zone Schengen, le voyageur en provenance du Maroc devra saluer nos amis douaniers avant d'entrer en France.🤪
Et s'il entrait en Suisse, et bien il y a des douaniers suisses la ba aussi.
Le Maroc (pays ou se trouve l'auteur du premier message) ne faisant pas encore partie de la zone Schengen, le voyageur en provenance du Maroc devra saluer nos amis douaniers avant d'entrer en France.🤪
Et s'il entrait en Suisse, et bien il y a des douaniers suisses la ba aussi.
Pour la niéme fois, que viennent faire les douaniers dans cette histoire ?.....🤪
Pour la nieme fois, le Maroc ne fait pas partie de l'espace Schengen 🤪
Pour la nieme fois, le Maroc ne fait pas partie de l'espace Schengen 🤪
Salut
Souvent les gens confondent douane et police de l'air et des frontières, car souvent ils sont confrontés à la douane, mais pratiquement jamais à la police, surtout en Europe occidentale.
Pour ce qui est du passage en France ou bien en Suisse, à l'aéroport de Genève, il faut savoir que tout se passe à l'enregistrement avant de prendre le vol, on est contrôlé pour le visa de destination, et la vignette du visa est scannée par la police de l'air et ce depuis janvier 2008 dès le départ.
Sans visa pour la destination à prendre et c'est le refus d'embarquement, sans parler de la suite de la procédure...
fayd
Cordialement
Fayd
Vois pas le rapport?????????????
Xavier.
All know that French fries are Belgian.
Quel est la profession du gars a qui je presente mon passeport?
Bonsoir tout le monde
merci beaucoup pour vos réponses, bon je ne suis pas trop pressé pour voir la suisse je pourrai bien laissé jusqu'a janvier 2009 .
avec mes amitiés
karim
Karim
Quel est la profession du gars a qui je presente mon passeport?
Il peut être policier ou douanier ou garde-frontières si c'est un Suisse. Ou postier si je veux retirer un recommandé. Ou banquier si je veux de l'argent. Ou gendarme si je roule trop vite.
Tu en veux encore ?
Il peut être policier ou douanier ou garde-frontières si c'est un Suisse. Ou postier si je veux retirer un recommandé. Ou banquier si je veux de l'argent. Ou gendarme si je roule trop vite.
Tu en veux encore ?
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
Salut,
L'élément qu'il faut souligner dans la réponse précieuse de "Tatie" (ci-dessous) est que pour les ressortissants de ces pays, il faut un visa Shenghen à entrée multiples pour entrer en Suisse. Le visa Shenghen à entrée simple ne permet pas l'entrée en Suisse. D'ou l'importance de préciser simple ou multiples lors de la demande. Cordialement Bulphi
// L’obligation du visa Suisse a été levée en faveur des ressortissants des pays mentionnés ci-dessous s’ils sont titulaires d’un passeport diplomatique, de service, spécial ou ordinaire et d’un visa des Etats de Schengen à entrées multiples valable : Arabie-Saoudite, Bahreïn, Emirats-Arabes-Unis, Koweït, Oman, Qatar, Thaïlande, (ainsi que Taiwan, mais uniquement pour les titulaires de passeport ordinaires). //
L'élément qu'il faut souligner dans la réponse précieuse de "Tatie" (ci-dessous) est que pour les ressortissants de ces pays, il faut un visa Shenghen à entrée multiples pour entrer en Suisse. Le visa Shenghen à entrée simple ne permet pas l'entrée en Suisse. D'ou l'importance de préciser simple ou multiples lors de la demande. Cordialement Bulphi
// L’obligation du visa Suisse a été levée en faveur des ressortissants des pays mentionnés ci-dessous s’ils sont titulaires d’un passeport diplomatique, de service, spécial ou ordinaire et d’un visa des Etats de Schengen à entrées multiples valable : Arabie-Saoudite, Bahreïn, Emirats-Arabes-Unis, Koweït, Oman, Qatar, Thaïlande, (ainsi que Taiwan, mais uniquement pour les titulaires de passeport ordinaires). //
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Salut bulphi,
Oui tu as raison car pour aller voir des amis en Suède, on a du demander un visa dit "de retour" a la prefecture, bon 8 Euros c'est pas la ruine 😉 Bon pas grave la carte de séjour c'est mieux 😎
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Hello,
En fait, les Thaïlandais et les ressortissants de quelques pays du Golf (Koweit, Qatar, etc.) peuvent entrer en Suisse avec un visa Schengen depuis plusieurs années. Mais il s'agissait d'accords particuliers passés par la suisse avec ces pays. Rien à voir avec l'EEE (Accords entre l'UE, l'AELE et la Suisse, ni (directement du moins) avec Schengen.
Cela dit, et pour répondre à la question de départ, La suisse est entrée dans l'espace Schengen depuis le 12 décembre 2008. Il est donc possible d'y entrer avec un visa Schengen depuis cette date. Attention, les passages en douanes dans les aéroports (frontières extérieures suisses depuis le 12 décembre que sont Genève, Zürich, Bâle et Lugano) ne seront cependant pas facilités avant le mois de mars 2009 pour des raisons de mise en conformité.
Bon voyage
En fait, les Thaïlandais et les ressortissants de quelques pays du Golf (Koweit, Qatar, etc.) peuvent entrer en Suisse avec un visa Schengen depuis plusieurs années. Mais il s'agissait d'accords particuliers passés par la suisse avec ces pays. Rien à voir avec l'EEE (Accords entre l'UE, l'AELE et la Suisse, ni (directement du moins) avec Schengen.
Cela dit, et pour répondre à la question de départ, La suisse est entrée dans l'espace Schengen depuis le 12 décembre 2008. Il est donc possible d'y entrer avec un visa Schengen depuis cette date. Attention, les passages en douanes dans les aéroports (frontières extérieures suisses depuis le 12 décembre que sont Genève, Zürich, Bâle et Lugano) ne seront cependant pas facilités avant le mois de mars 2009 pour des raisons de mise en conformité.
Bon voyage
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Hello,
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Hi there,
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
Hi everyone,
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks






