NAKHORN RATCHASIMA: -- A packed Bangkok-bound coach was caught on fire on Tuesday in Nakhon Ratchasima province, burning to death at least 28 passengers. The 40-seat bus left Yasothon at about 5am and its break system broke down as it approached Nakhon Ratchasima's Pak Chong district.When the problem was fixed, it continued its ride. However the engine was caught on fire, when it went downhill. The fire raged to passengers' compartment and burnt to death 28 passengers. The Nation 2007-03-20
Thaïlande: accident de bus terrible!
by Oswald13
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bien triste nouvelle dans le journal THE NATION 🙁.... éspérons que d'autres arrivent pas et puis je sais pas les raisons mais cela devrait peut etre faire reflechir les pouvoirs publics sur la securite vu que les bus sont deja bien plus fiables et modernes qu'il y a quelques annéees!
NAKHORN RATCHASIMA: -- A packed Bangkok-bound coach was caught on fire on Tuesday in Nakhon Ratchasima province, burning to death at least 28 passengers. The 40-seat bus left Yasothon at about 5am and its break system broke down as it approached Nakhon Ratchasima's Pak Chong district.When the problem was fixed, it continued its ride. However the engine was caught on fire, when it went downhill. The fire raged to passengers' compartment and burnt to death 28 passengers. The Nation 2007-03-20
NAKHORN RATCHASIMA: -- A packed Bangkok-bound coach was caught on fire on Tuesday in Nakhon Ratchasima province, burning to death at least 28 passengers. The 40-seat bus left Yasothon at about 5am and its break system broke down as it approached Nakhon Ratchasima's Pak Chong district.When the problem was fixed, it continued its ride. However the engine was caught on fire, when it went downhill. The fire raged to passengers' compartment and burnt to death 28 passengers. The Nation 2007-03-20
je respecte l’environnement, j’honore les gens que je rencontre et j’exprime ma gratitude envers la vie et tous les êtres vivants... parceque je sais que cahcun d'entre nous est important et que rien n'y personne ne doit être mis de côté !
N'exagérons pas, je trouve les chauffeurs de bus Thailandais plutôt "tranquille" si on compare avec les pays voisins, peut etre aprfois prennent ils le volant avec un peu trop de fatigue mais de là à dire qu'ils sont fous, je te suis pas vraiment 😐
je respecte l’environnement, j’honore les gens que je rencontre et j’exprime ma gratitude envers la vie et tous les êtres vivants... parceque je sais que cahcun d'entre nous est important et que rien n'y personne ne doit être mis de côté !
Dans "Manifestation à Bangkok" discussion démarrée par Achinoise93, j'ai déjà mis le lien du Bangkok Post;
Pour revenir à tes assertions concernant les bus thai....
Nous sommes en 2007; mon métier a été de conduire des bus de ligne et d'excursion pendant de nombreuses années (1971 à 1983); tu vois ça date pas d'hier, et bien les bus de tourisme thai ont en très grande majorité la technologie des années 70; quasiment 40 ans de retard sur ce qui se fait actuellement en Europe; donc ne pas s'étonner des accidents graves et répétés qui sont aussi dûs au manque total de respect du code de la route et à la fatigue des conducteurs;
Seule une compagnie à grâce à mes yeux: la compagnie des bus bleus dits "gouvernementaux"; deux conducteurs sur les longues distances, arrêts périodiques de repos et entretien des véhicules. les compagnies privées ont certe de très jolis bus (belles peintures, aérographie de toute beauté) mais dessous c'est le moyen âge. Pas de Telma, pas d'ABS ni ABR, pas de boite de vitesse moderne (à étages ou a relais électrique), pas de direction assistée à huile; pas de "mouchard", la plupart du temps, même le compte tours est en panne! la totale, quoi; ne pas s'étonner après du nombre vertigineux de morts sur la route en Thailande: plus de 20.000 morts par an avec un parc automobile dix fois moins élevé qu'en France.
Pour revenir à tes assertions concernant les bus thai....
Nous sommes en 2007; mon métier a été de conduire des bus de ligne et d'excursion pendant de nombreuses années (1971 à 1983); tu vois ça date pas d'hier, et bien les bus de tourisme thai ont en très grande majorité la technologie des années 70; quasiment 40 ans de retard sur ce qui se fait actuellement en Europe; donc ne pas s'étonner des accidents graves et répétés qui sont aussi dûs au manque total de respect du code de la route et à la fatigue des conducteurs;
Seule une compagnie à grâce à mes yeux: la compagnie des bus bleus dits "gouvernementaux"; deux conducteurs sur les longues distances, arrêts périodiques de repos et entretien des véhicules. les compagnies privées ont certe de très jolis bus (belles peintures, aérographie de toute beauté) mais dessous c'est le moyen âge. Pas de Telma, pas d'ABS ni ABR, pas de boite de vitesse moderne (à étages ou a relais électrique), pas de direction assistée à huile; pas de "mouchard", la plupart du temps, même le compte tours est en panne! la totale, quoi; ne pas s'étonner après du nombre vertigineux de morts sur la route en Thailande: plus de 20.000 morts par an avec un parc automobile dix fois moins élevé qu'en France.
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
C'est pour ca que la compagnie de bus Transport Co (dite "governmental") avait été créée, pour éviter la compétition entre compagnies au dépends de la sécurité.
J'ai moi meme circulé dans un bus qui n'avait plus de freins, dans cette meme région. M'étant rendu compte qu'il y avait un probleme, j'ai demandé a descendre du bus, sans contre-partie. Mais le chauffeur avait quand meme refusé de me laisser descendre, et il s'était engagé sur une voie rapide et commencait a accélerer, accélerer... sans freins! Heureusement qu'il y avait un barrage de police, le bus a été immobilisé et bloqué par la police.
Eviter donc les bus pas chers, les épaves roulantes, différer son voyage quand le bus est déjà archi-complet (personnes jusque sur les marche-pieds). Toute situation anormale doit amener a réagir soi meme, sans attendre la providence des services publics, qui ne peuvent pas etre partout.
J'ai moi meme circulé dans un bus qui n'avait plus de freins, dans cette meme région. M'étant rendu compte qu'il y avait un probleme, j'ai demandé a descendre du bus, sans contre-partie. Mais le chauffeur avait quand meme refusé de me laisser descendre, et il s'était engagé sur une voie rapide et commencait a accélerer, accélerer... sans freins! Heureusement qu'il y avait un barrage de police, le bus a été immobilisé et bloqué par la police.
Eviter donc les bus pas chers, les épaves roulantes, différer son voyage quand le bus est déjà archi-complet (personnes jusque sur les marche-pieds). Toute situation anormale doit amener a réagir soi meme, sans attendre la providence des services publics, qui ne peuvent pas etre partout.
salut tchaona
je crois pas que tu t'adresse à la bonne personne, moi j' defendai splutôt les chauffeurs, c'est notre ami Belge qui les a traiter de "fou" !!🙂
Pour le reste, je te conséde volontiers que les jolies bus exterieurs sont souvent pas trés beaux non plus (j'ai aussi travaillé dans le transport ), d'ailleurs on peut reconnaitre quelques bruits parfois en roulant . ceci étant c'est pas évident mais une législatoion arrivera tôt ou tard, donc en attendant ..faire attention ou plutôt se confier à Bouddha !😉
P.S: tu auras remarquer que l'on a poster le message sur l'accident à la même heure pour un journal différent... !! j'espère que tu m'en voudra pas d'avoir donner cette nouvelle ??? bonne journée et bonne retraite, veinard que tu es !!
Pour le reste, je te conséde volontiers que les jolies bus exterieurs sont souvent pas trés beaux non plus (j'ai aussi travaillé dans le transport ), d'ailleurs on peut reconnaitre quelques bruits parfois en roulant . ceci étant c'est pas évident mais une législatoion arrivera tôt ou tard, donc en attendant ..faire attention ou plutôt se confier à Bouddha !😉
P.S: tu auras remarquer que l'on a poster le message sur l'accident à la même heure pour un journal différent... !! j'espère que tu m'en voudra pas d'avoir donner cette nouvelle ??? bonne journée et bonne retraite, veinard que tu es !!
je respecte l’environnement, j’honore les gens que je rencontre et j’exprime ma gratitude envers la vie et tous les êtres vivants... parceque je sais que cahcun d'entre nous est important et que rien n'y personne ne doit être mis de côté !
je sais pas trop où tu as vu des chauffeurs fous mais comme mes compatriotes, c'est plus les bus en piteux état qui me font peur, les chauffeurs eux, sont en général assez calme .
je crois d'ailleurs que l'état à commencer à s'en occuper l'an dernier lorsque j'étais là bas, j'ai entendu que les ptits bus verts de Bangkok, les pires et qui avaient fait de nbx accidents devaient être supprimés, bon, d'prés ce que j'entends à droite à gauche d'amis en retour, c'est pas le cas mais les gens sont au courant .
Une chose est sûre, il faut faire quelque chose !!!!!!
Les hasard d'internet..
Quand j'ai commencé à écrire ma réponse, personne n'avait encore répondu, donc tu ne pouvais qu'être le seul à qui je pouvais répondre 😉 ;
et entre le moment où j'ai écrit et celui où j'ai posté...il s'est passé quelques instants, mis à profit par les autres intervenants;
Je suis d'accord avec l'intervenant qui dit que tous les jours...oki, oki; mais ce post n'est pas dépourvu d'intérêt car il peut faire prendre conscience à certains "routards" que tout ne doit pas être fait sous prétexte que c'est moins cher.. Parfois réfléchir et se douter que si c'est pas cher (mai peng, mai di😉) en général c'est qu'il y a une raison, voir mon proverbe préféré. Il y a aussi des accidents d'avion, de train et de véhicules legers... On peut aussi se prendre une tuile sur la tronche en sortant de chez soi ou glisser sur le trottoir.
La législation existe déjà;

Il ne reste plus qu'à la faire appliquer sans modération. Les radars "jumelles" fonctionnent très bien sur la route à 4 voies Udon Thani - Nong Khai; mais les amendes si elles sont dissuassives pour les thai (300 baht, ça fait l'équivalent de 150 € chez nous) ne le sont pas pour les farang ni pour les patrons de boites de transports qui achètent les flics sans aucune difficulté.
Je sais, 300 baht ça fait 6 €; mais 300 baht c'est aussi 1 journée et demi de salaire pour la majorité des thai donc ça correspond à environ 150 € chez nous.
Je suis d'accord avec l'intervenant qui dit que tous les jours...oki, oki; mais ce post n'est pas dépourvu d'intérêt car il peut faire prendre conscience à certains "routards" que tout ne doit pas être fait sous prétexte que c'est moins cher.. Parfois réfléchir et se douter que si c'est pas cher (mai peng, mai di😉) en général c'est qu'il y a une raison, voir mon proverbe préféré. Il y a aussi des accidents d'avion, de train et de véhicules legers... On peut aussi se prendre une tuile sur la tronche en sortant de chez soi ou glisser sur le trottoir.
La législation existe déjà;

Il ne reste plus qu'à la faire appliquer sans modération. Les radars "jumelles" fonctionnent très bien sur la route à 4 voies Udon Thani - Nong Khai; mais les amendes si elles sont dissuassives pour les thai (300 baht, ça fait l'équivalent de 150 € chez nous) ne le sont pas pour les farang ni pour les patrons de boites de transports qui achètent les flics sans aucune difficulté.
Je sais, 300 baht ça fait 6 €; mais 300 baht c'est aussi 1 journée et demi de salaire pour la majorité des thai donc ça correspond à environ 150 € chez nous.
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
Environ 75% d'accidents mortels impliquant des deux roues, la plupart du temps fortement alcoolisés. (malheureusement)
C'est aussi pour ça que chaque fois qu'on pose une question ici ou ailleurs sur la location d'une Honda, je rajoute toujours mon petit commentaire sur la conduite: casque, prudence, avoir des yeux partout (devant, derrière, sur les côtés); ne jamais rouler la nuit....chiens errants, trous dans la chaussée non signalés, véhicules arrétés sans feux...

C'est aussi pour ça que chaque fois qu'on pose une question ici ou ailleurs sur la location d'une Honda, je rajoute toujours mon petit commentaire sur la conduite: casque, prudence, avoir des yeux partout (devant, derrière, sur les côtés); ne jamais rouler la nuit....chiens errants, trous dans la chaussée non signalés, véhicules arrétés sans feux...

Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
Je Trouve qu en Thailande ils conduisent bien !!
Prend le Bus a Java, et test un changement de Chauffeur a 90km/H, la il y a de quoi se faire au froc...
Je ne parle même pas du Vietnam, on ne me croirait pas !
A+
Prend le Bus a Java, et test un changement de Chauffeur a 90km/H, la il y a de quoi se faire au froc...
Je ne parle même pas du Vietnam, on ne me croirait pas !
A+
Ils en parlent aussi dans le petit journal de Bangkok .🙁
Fait-divers – 30 passagers d’un bus brûlés vifs
Trente personnes sont mortes carbonisées et 31 blessées dans l’incendie d’un bus mardi dans la Province de Nakhon Ratchasima. Le bus de 40 places qui avait quitté Yasothon vers 5 heures du matin en direction de Bangkok, aurait subit une panne de frein un peu avant d’arriver à Nakhon Ratchasima puis serait reparti après que le chauffeur aurait effectué des réparations de fortune. Mais alors qu’il descendait une pente, le moteur aurait soudain pris feu, se propageant rapidement dans le compartiment des passagers. Le bus appartient à une compagnie publique, Transport Co. La réglementation du Ministère des transports impose aux compagnies de bus d’effectuer une révision complète de leurs véhicules tous les 7 ans, ainsi que d’avoir deux chauffeurs en service par bus pour les distances supérieures à 500 kilomètres. Cependant, il est fréquent que ces règles ne soient pas respectées, notamment dans les compagnies privées.Le petit journal de Bangkok . 22 mars 2007
Trente personnes sont mortes carbonisées et 31 blessées dans l’incendie d’un bus mardi dans la Province de Nakhon Ratchasima. Le bus de 40 places qui avait quitté Yasothon vers 5 heures du matin en direction de Bangkok, aurait subit une panne de frein un peu avant d’arriver à Nakhon Ratchasima puis serait reparti après que le chauffeur aurait effectué des réparations de fortune. Mais alors qu’il descendait une pente, le moteur aurait soudain pris feu, se propageant rapidement dans le compartiment des passagers. Le bus appartient à une compagnie publique, Transport Co. La réglementation du Ministère des transports impose aux compagnies de bus d’effectuer une révision complète de leurs véhicules tous les 7 ans, ainsi que d’avoir deux chauffeurs en service par bus pour les distances supérieures à 500 kilomètres. Cependant, il est fréquent que ces règles ne soient pas respectées, notamment dans les compagnies privées.Le petit journal de Bangkok . 22 mars 2007
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Tu as tout a fait raison, les chauffeurs Thailandais sont parmis les meilleurs que je conaisse en asie, il suffit d'aller faire un tour en Chine ou au Viet Nam pour s'en convaincre.
Cet accident est terrible mais il arrive frequement qu'il y ai aussi des accidents en europe qui a pourtant obligation d'avoir des controles reguliers etc ... la seule chose pour laquelle il faut effectivement le dire, c'est souvent la fatigue de ces chauffeurs, en particulier sur les longues distances qui en plus n'ai aider que par ces petites bouteilles (dont je terrai la marque tellement c'est infecte et nocif !!!!!!) et qui ressemble au "guronsan " francais " que prennent les etudiants avant des examens .
on ne va pas fare comme avec les avions quant un de ces appreils tombent, combien de passagers transportes pour combien de morts ...????
pareil pour ce dramatique accident, combien de bus par jour circulent a travers le pays ???
alors, certes, il faudra que les reglementations s'appliquent au plus vite - et ce genre de mauvaise publicite devrait faire avancer les choses dans la tete des autorites - mais n'oublions pas que nous sommes en asie et que malgre tout le transport routier est relativement "recent", comme tout, il faut le temps pour que les mentalites evoluent et que les priorites changent ....pour le moment, la thailande reste embrouiller dans des problemes que j'appellerai "geopoliticofincanciers", il faudra attendre encore un peu pour avoir des ceintures sur tous les ieges et des pneus neufs sur les bus !
alors, certes, il faudra que les reglementations s'appliquent au plus vite - et ce genre de mauvaise publicite devrait faire avancer les choses dans la tete des autorites - mais n'oublions pas que nous sommes en asie et que malgre tout le transport routier est relativement "recent", comme tout, il faut le temps pour que les mentalites evoluent et que les priorites changent ....pour le moment, la thailande reste embrouiller dans des problemes que j'appellerai "geopoliticofincanciers", il faudra attendre encore un peu pour avoir des ceintures sur tous les ieges et des pneus neufs sur les bus !
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
Salut à tous.
J'ai une petite anecdote qui m'est arrivé sur la route entre Krabi et Phang-Gna avec ma copine sino-Thaï ( une natif du sud) qui possède un Ford Ranger 2.9 : un monstre.
Alors ont roulaient a environ 120 km/h de nuit ( assez vite), puis derrière nous : appelle de phare monstrueux et deux monstrueux bus de la compagnie "TURISMO ASIA" nous doubles dans le tournant et oui, "dans le tournant" a plus de 120 km/h 🏴☠️ je n'ai jamais eu aussi peur de me vie, ma copine les as traité de "ting-tong".
vive le vélo.
On ne désire pas ce qu'on ne connaît pas.
On écrit pour raconter, non pour prouver.
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selon le Bangkok Post et The Nation, le bus appartenait a la compagnie Sa-nguan Yan Yon Co ou Sri Sanguan Yanyont (selon les différentes transcriptions phonétiques).
Et pas Transport Co qui reste très fiable.
Dans un éditorial du journal The Nation, on peut lire que l'accident renforce l'idée que la compagnie publique est sure.
Et heureusement, car cette compagnie Transport Co avait été créée justement pour éviter la rude compétition aux plus bas prix et vitesse, qui avait conduit l'insécurité.
Bangkok Post du 21 Mars 2007 The Nation The Nation - editorial
Le plus surprenant, c'est le fait qu'un incendie du compartiment moteur a l'arriere, puisse endomager le systeme de freinage. Pas de redondance mécanique, frein de secours?
Dans un éditorial du journal The Nation, on peut lire que l'accident renforce l'idée que la compagnie publique est sure.
Et heureusement, car cette compagnie Transport Co avait été créée justement pour éviter la rude compétition aux plus bas prix et vitesse, qui avait conduit l'insécurité.
Bangkok Post du 21 Mars 2007 The Nation The Nation - editorial
Le plus surprenant, c'est le fait qu'un incendie du compartiment moteur a l'arriere, puisse endomager le systeme de freinage. Pas de redondance mécanique, frein de secours?
"Le plus surprenant, c'est le fait qu'un incendie du compartiment moteur a l'arriere, puisse endomager le systeme de freinage. Pas de redondance mécanique, frein de secours?"
Je reprends ta dernière phrase car cela me surprend aussi ; en effet, les freins sur un PL fonctionnent soit entièrement à air soit à air avec une assistance à huile (pour la pédale afin qu'elle ne soit pas trop dure à enfoncer.
le principe de fonctionnement est simplissime, S'il y a de l'air, le car peut rouler, les machoires des tambours ou des disques ne sont pas serrées. Par contre dès qu'il y a une fuite importante ou si la bouteille d'assistance est vide il est impossible de bouger, tout est bloqué; par contre, quand on entend que les "freins ont laché" sur un poids lourd dans une descente, cest une mauvaise expression; en réalité, ce sont les tambours, qui par échauffement se sont dilatés et quand les machoires se serrent, elles ne serrent que du vide, donc ce ne sont pas les freins qui lachent, ils deviennent inopérant et ne servent plus à rien tant que les tambours ne reviennent pas à une température normale. Le seul moyen de s'en sortir est si on y arrive de se ralentir un maximum, de passer en première et de faire toute la descente sur cette vitesse sans toucher à la pédale d'accélérateur ni à celle des freins; le frein moteur du PL est suffisamment important pour empêcher un sur-régime; ou si on n'y arrive pas à prendre les voies de sorties d'urgence remplies de sable; le PL s'arrête de lui même en s'enfonçant lourdement.
Pour revenir à la phrase citée, dans un cas pareil, la bouteille d'assistance aurait dû se vider brutalement et les freins se bloquer tout aussi rapidement; Ce qui a dû se passer, c'est un manque flagrant d'entretien; des tambours un peu chauds et des machoires pas bien réglées; J'ai déjà fait un post sur les caractéristiques techniques des cars thai en signalant que s'ils sont "beaux" extérieurement, ils sont d'une technologie complétement obsolète; Je n'ai encore jamais vu un système de ralentissement électrique (Telma ou Ilasa) sur l'un d'entre eux; pas d'ABS ni d'ABR; pas d'assistance moderne sur la direction; ça ressemble beaucoup plus aux Berliets GLR que je conduisais il y a 40 ans dans les années 70 qu'à des véhicules modernes. En France, depuis l'année 2003, les ceintures sont obligatoires à bord de tous les véhicules PL et TC; remarquez les conducteurs de super lourds, ils ont tous la ceinture et dans les bus tous les sièges en sont équipés et les passagers ainsi que le conducteur doivent l'attacher;(je parle des bus neufs construits depuis cette date) c'est bien simple, si pas attaché, l'assurance ne marche pas...et c'est facile à prouver, tous les véhicules sont pourvus en grande quantité de capteurs afin de pouvoir vérifier ce que l'"homme" voudrait cacher.
Je reprends ta dernière phrase car cela me surprend aussi ; en effet, les freins sur un PL fonctionnent soit entièrement à air soit à air avec une assistance à huile (pour la pédale afin qu'elle ne soit pas trop dure à enfoncer.
le principe de fonctionnement est simplissime, S'il y a de l'air, le car peut rouler, les machoires des tambours ou des disques ne sont pas serrées. Par contre dès qu'il y a une fuite importante ou si la bouteille d'assistance est vide il est impossible de bouger, tout est bloqué; par contre, quand on entend que les "freins ont laché" sur un poids lourd dans une descente, cest une mauvaise expression; en réalité, ce sont les tambours, qui par échauffement se sont dilatés et quand les machoires se serrent, elles ne serrent que du vide, donc ce ne sont pas les freins qui lachent, ils deviennent inopérant et ne servent plus à rien tant que les tambours ne reviennent pas à une température normale. Le seul moyen de s'en sortir est si on y arrive de se ralentir un maximum, de passer en première et de faire toute la descente sur cette vitesse sans toucher à la pédale d'accélérateur ni à celle des freins; le frein moteur du PL est suffisamment important pour empêcher un sur-régime; ou si on n'y arrive pas à prendre les voies de sorties d'urgence remplies de sable; le PL s'arrête de lui même en s'enfonçant lourdement.
Pour revenir à la phrase citée, dans un cas pareil, la bouteille d'assistance aurait dû se vider brutalement et les freins se bloquer tout aussi rapidement; Ce qui a dû se passer, c'est un manque flagrant d'entretien; des tambours un peu chauds et des machoires pas bien réglées; J'ai déjà fait un post sur les caractéristiques techniques des cars thai en signalant que s'ils sont "beaux" extérieurement, ils sont d'une technologie complétement obsolète; Je n'ai encore jamais vu un système de ralentissement électrique (Telma ou Ilasa) sur l'un d'entre eux; pas d'ABS ni d'ABR; pas d'assistance moderne sur la direction; ça ressemble beaucoup plus aux Berliets GLR que je conduisais il y a 40 ans dans les années 70 qu'à des véhicules modernes. En France, depuis l'année 2003, les ceintures sont obligatoires à bord de tous les véhicules PL et TC; remarquez les conducteurs de super lourds, ils ont tous la ceinture et dans les bus tous les sièges en sont équipés et les passagers ainsi que le conducteur doivent l'attacher;(je parle des bus neufs construits depuis cette date) c'est bien simple, si pas attaché, l'assurance ne marche pas...et c'est facile à prouver, tous les véhicules sont pourvus en grande quantité de capteurs afin de pouvoir vérifier ce que l'"homme" voudrait cacher.
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
j'aimerais apporter une note au sujet de ce champ macabre sur les routes thailandaises. Les morts tournent souvent autour des 30-34 000/an !
Quant a savoir s'il y a plus de motocyclettes responsables et/ou victimes, il faudrait pouvoir verifier la veracite du bilan ?
Et comme il est de bonne guerre que le plus gros meprise le plus petit...
En attendant avec leur passion du "pick-up" quand ils "cartonnent", les chiffres montent vitent vu qu'ils trouvent normal de charger tout le reste de la famille sur le plateau arriere !
Puis est-il utile de faire des comparaisons entre pays, d'autant qu'il y aura toujours pire. Comme par exemple dans certains coins d'Afrique ou pour conjurer le sort, ils agrementent volontiers leurs epaves qui servent de transport en commun d'un par-soleil du message "S'EN FOUT LA MORT"... 😕
Il est clair, a moins d'etre aveugle, que la grande majorite des autocars qui sillonnent la Thailande ne respirent pas la bonne sante et subissent un maquillage de surface. Idem pour les "VIP" avec service a bord !
Surprenant tout de meme dans un pays ou le parc automobile est plutot de bonne qualite ?
Sachez tout de meme, qu'il ne se passe pas une semaine sans qu'il y est au moins un accident grave impliquant un bus de ces societes de transport...
D'autre part, nous savons tous que l'amelioration de la conduite au volant se fait difficilement sans l'application de regles d'un code et de la "peur du gendarme" ?
Sinon, connaissez-vous l'expression locale a propos de celui qui metrise mal son vehicule "Attention, vous ne conduisez pas un buffle" ! Expression en reference a l'animal qui lui face au danger sera s'arreter...
Puis est-il utile de faire des comparaisons entre pays, d'autant qu'il y aura toujours pire. Comme par exemple dans certains coins d'Afrique ou pour conjurer le sort, ils agrementent volontiers leurs epaves qui servent de transport en commun d'un par-soleil du message "S'EN FOUT LA MORT"... 😕
Il est clair, a moins d'etre aveugle, que la grande majorite des autocars qui sillonnent la Thailande ne respirent pas la bonne sante et subissent un maquillage de surface. Idem pour les "VIP" avec service a bord !
Surprenant tout de meme dans un pays ou le parc automobile est plutot de bonne qualite ?
Sachez tout de meme, qu'il ne se passe pas une semaine sans qu'il y est au moins un accident grave impliquant un bus de ces societes de transport...
D'autre part, nous savons tous que l'amelioration de la conduite au volant se fait difficilement sans l'application de regles d'un code et de la "peur du gendarme" ?
Sinon, connaissez-vous l'expression locale a propos de celui qui metrise mal son vehicule "Attention, vous ne conduisez pas un buffle" ! Expression en reference a l'animal qui lui face au danger sera s'arreter...
Sinon, connaissez-vous l'expression locale a propos de celui qui metrise mal son vehicule "Attention, vous ne conduisez pas un buffle" !
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Ou alors une expression bien de chez nous que j'aime bien: "Roule moins vite j'suis pressé" 😏
Ou alors une expression bien de chez nous que j'aime bien: "Roule moins vite j'suis pressé" 😏
Merci Henri pour les explications. La question était effectivement pour toi.
Manifestement le chauffeur a manqué de bons réflexes: il aurait du arreter alors qu'une roue brulait, que le feu s'était propagé a la cabine, et que des passagers commencaient a sauter du car en roulant!
J'ai déjà connu une situation semblable, sur la meme route. Sauvé(?) par la police de la route!
Le chauffeur ne veut pas s'arréter, parce qu'il craint les passagers et son chef... plus que la police.
A décharge, je dois quand meme témoigner avoir circulé, plusieurs fois, dans des bus neufs, au départ de Sai Tai mai et meme depuis Khao San. Mais aussi des bus a plancher de bois très anciens.
Manifestement le chauffeur a manqué de bons réflexes: il aurait du arreter alors qu'une roue brulait, que le feu s'était propagé a la cabine, et que des passagers commencaient a sauter du car en roulant!
J'ai déjà connu une situation semblable, sur la meme route. Sauvé(?) par la police de la route!
Le chauffeur ne veut pas s'arréter, parce qu'il craint les passagers et son chef... plus que la police.
A décharge, je dois quand meme témoigner avoir circulé, plusieurs fois, dans des bus neufs, au départ de Sai Tai mai et meme depuis Khao San. Mais aussi des bus a plancher de bois très anciens.
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Je n ai pas trouvé d infos récentes sur Kuching
Est ce quelqu un peut recommander un hotel ou une guesthouse à moins de 100 RM bien et pas cher? pas de dortoir merci
Est ce qu en novembre il pleut beaucoup et aller à Semenggoh ou Bako vaut le coup ou pas?
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
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Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
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Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.





