Besoins des enfants Thaïlandais et Vietnamiens (vêtements, stylos...)?
by Laetitiac004
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
Je pars fin septembre en thailande puis au vietnam, et j'aurais voulu ramener des petites choses pour les enfants la bas (style fourniture scolaire : stylos...)
J'aimerais savoir si c'était possible, si ce n'était pas mal pris, et surtout à qui je pourrais confier ces affaires.. sachant que je pars en circuit, je n'aurait pas le temps de m'arreter dans les écoles ou aux ambassades, est ce qu'a votre avis je peux faire confiance aux guides? (je demande ça car dans tous les pays d'afrique que j'ai fait, je me suis fait avoir par le guide à trop vouloir faire confiance).
Pourriez-vous aussi me dire de quoi les petits ont besoin (peut etre vetements ou autre?) Je n'ai aucun idée donc ca pourrait être sympa si j'avais des pistes.
Merci a tous et bonne soirée
laetitia
Conseil n°1: achète sur place.
Conseil n°2: ne fais pas confiance à quelqu'un que tu connais depuis 48 heures. Vas direct dans une école.
Bon voyage.
Bon voyage.
"Si vous croisez le Bouddha, tuez-le !!!"
oui c'est bien ce qu'il me semblait.. je me debrouillerai pour apporter ca moi même... Merci
Conseil n° 3 : Que tu donnes tes babioles à un citoyen lambda, à un moine, à un instituteur ou à quiconque d'autres, fais toujours en sorte qu'il y ait quelques témoins présents lors du don.
Léon, le vrai.
Dans l'esprit asiatique, tout se merite
En France aussi... désormais.
En France aussi... désormais.
Léon, le vrai.
je me debrouillerai pour apporter ca moi même...
Tu n'as pas compris, ça te coûtera plus cher d'acheter en France que sur place.
Donner à des enfants que tu ne connais pas fait plus de mal que de bien, sauf à ta conscience. Il vaut mieux donner des sous à des petites assoces qui savent aider les gens qui en ont réellement besoin, la Thaïlande a un bon niveau de vie en ASE, ce n'est pas l'Inde.
Tu n'as pas compris, ça te coûtera plus cher d'acheter en France que sur place.
Donner à des enfants que tu ne connais pas fait plus de mal que de bien, sauf à ta conscience. Il vaut mieux donner des sous à des petites assoces qui savent aider les gens qui en ont réellement besoin, la Thaïlande a un bon niveau de vie en ASE, ce n'est pas l'Inde.
Juste pour informer ...
On trouve, dans les magasins MAKRO, des boîtes d'environ 100 stylos à bille pour moins de 2 € !
On trouve, dans les magasins MAKRO, des boîtes d'environ 100 stylos à bille pour moins de 2 € !
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
des boîtes d'environ 100 stylos à bille pour moins de 2 € !
Ouais, des stylos pourris qui n'écrivent plus dès qu'ils ont rencontré un grain de poussière ou une goutelette d'eau. Mais ça suffira bien pour les pauvres, surtout qu'on ne sera plus là pour les regarder les utiliser...
Ouais, des stylos pourris qui n'écrivent plus dès qu'ils ont rencontré un grain de poussière ou une goutelette d'eau. Mais ça suffira bien pour les pauvres, surtout qu'on ne sera plus là pour les regarder les utiliser...
Léon, le vrai.
des boîtes d'environ 100 stylos à bille pour moins de 2 € !
Ouais, des stylos pourris qui n'écrivent plus dès qu'ils ont rencontré un grain de poussière ou une goutelette d'eau. Mais ça suffira bien pour les pauvres, surtout qu'on ne sera plus là pour les regarder les utiliser...
C'est vous qui le dites !
Moi je n'utilise que çà (ou aussi des feutres très bon marché) ...
Evidemment, les stylos MontBlanc sont peut-être plus chers en Thaïlande, quoique ...
Ouais, des stylos pourris qui n'écrivent plus dès qu'ils ont rencontré un grain de poussière ou une goutelette d'eau. Mais ça suffira bien pour les pauvres, surtout qu'on ne sera plus là pour les regarder les utiliser...
C'est vous qui le dites !
Moi je n'utilise que çà (ou aussi des feutres très bon marché) ...
Evidemment, les stylos MontBlanc sont peut-être plus chers en Thaïlande, quoique ...
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
De quoi ont besoin les enfants pauvres des pays que vous visitez en touristes ? Ce n'est pas en quelques jours que vous aurez la réponse. Si vous voulez vraiment apporter de l'aide (et pas juste faire l'aumône et vous donner bonne conscience) adressez-vous à une association d'entraide, une ONG, et demandez-leur de quoi elles ont besoin. Inutile d'amener des stylos et des T-shirts s'ils ont besoin de médicaments, de riz ou d'autre chose. La plupart du temps, donnez de l'argent qui sera mieux employé et à meilleur escient que des fournitures inutiles. Mais évidemment, ça demande plus de temps. Le parrainage est une bonne solution si vous voulez aider à plus long terme.
Si vous n'avez pas le temps pour chercher sur place, adressez-vous à une association en France et faites un don à votre retour.
est ce qu'a votre avis je peux faire confiance aux guides?
Vous pouvez faire confiance aux guides en ce qui concerne le service pour lequel vous le payez. Pour le reste, ils ne sont pas plus au courant des besoins des oeuvres d'entraide, des orphelinats, des écoles pour enfants pauvres que vous (j'exagère à peine). Ne mélangez pas tout, chacun son métier. Le guide conduit des touristes, il ne sont pas des travailleurs sociaux. Vous pouvez leur confier quelques babioles pour leurs enfants si vous voulez, mais très franchement, ce n'est pas ce qu'ils attendent de vous. Quelques stylos ne remplacent pas un bon pourboire (si le service est bon) et peut dans certains cas être pris comme un insulte, et est inapproprié dans la plupart des cas.
Voir aussi cette discussion
est ce qu'a votre avis je peux faire confiance aux guides?
Vous pouvez faire confiance aux guides en ce qui concerne le service pour lequel vous le payez. Pour le reste, ils ne sont pas plus au courant des besoins des oeuvres d'entraide, des orphelinats, des écoles pour enfants pauvres que vous (j'exagère à peine). Ne mélangez pas tout, chacun son métier. Le guide conduit des touristes, il ne sont pas des travailleurs sociaux. Vous pouvez leur confier quelques babioles pour leurs enfants si vous voulez, mais très franchement, ce n'est pas ce qu'ils attendent de vous. Quelques stylos ne remplacent pas un bon pourboire (si le service est bon) et peut dans certains cas être pris comme un insulte, et est inapproprié dans la plupart des cas.
Voir aussi cette discussion
"Share what you know, learn what you don't"
Tu peux distribuer des stylos ou autre babioles pour le feeling immediat de voir des sourires s'affiches, mais si tu veux vraiment aider, il est mieux de passer par des ONG.Il y a maintenant des moyens tres pratique pour donner, en prelevement automatique mensuelle a partir de 1 euros (pour les gens modestes mais qui ont quand meme du coeur et non radin..) par exemple.
En passant, VOUS, qui depensez sans compter en busness class, en vol interieur, en air conditionne, j'espere que vous etes les plus genereux donateurs, merci d'avance.
Saaaaalut,
Donne un peu d'argent aux personnes agées qui sont à la rue (BKK) ces personnes sont réellement dans la précarité la plus totale.
Le simple fait d'avoir pensé à ton prochain force le respect.
A mon avis, donner mille pièces à mille enfants ne va pas améliorer leurs sort, et tu te retrouveras fauché en 2 jours... As-tu pensé à un parrainage ? asumer ou contribuer au bien-être d'un seul enfant, mais le faire à long terme...?
Bon voyage
Donne un peu d'argent aux personnes agées qui sont à la rue (BKK) ces personnes sont réellement dans la précarité la plus totale.
Le simple fait d'avoir pensé à ton prochain force le respect.
A mon avis, donner mille pièces à mille enfants ne va pas améliorer leurs sort, et tu te retrouveras fauché en 2 jours... As-tu pensé à un parrainage ? asumer ou contribuer au bien-être d'un seul enfant, mais le faire à long terme...?
Bon voyage
merci de me lire au second degré... on rigole, on rigole (mais pas toujours)
En posant cette question je ne voulais surtout pas heurter les sensibilités, ni passer pour la bourge de service. J'ai économisé 5 ans pour pouvoir me payer ce voyage, et je sais ce que c'est que d'être dans la m**.. je voulais juste aider à mon niveau, même si c'est pas grand chose.
En tout cas j'ai bien prit note de tous vos conseils, je prefere faire des dons parce que tout devient vite compliqué.
En tout cas j'ai bien prit note de tous vos conseils, je prefere faire des dons parce que tout devient vite compliqué.
Tu sait ce n'est pas complique d'envouer un cheque a une organisation pour la Birmanie, et c'est la que les besoin sont réels, ,
Pour ceux qui veulent faire quelque chose, il y a un membre de vf qui a eut une idée lumineuse, auquel les ongs n'y ont même pas penser, c'est d'apporter des lunettes de vue dans les écoles reculé, que sa soit en Thailande ou au Viet nam, la on fait vraiment des heureux, Imaginer la souffrance de un jeune qui veut apprendre, et qui ne vois pas le bout de son nez 🤪🤪, elle a fait quelques photos, des gosses une fois les montures sur leur nez, c'est comme si un miracle est arriver, voila des idée simple ..............😉
Tu sait ce n'est pas complique d'envouer un cheque a une organisation pour la Birmanie, et c'est la que les besoin sont réels, ,
Pour ceux qui veulent faire quelque chose, il y a un membre de vf qui a eut une idée lumineuse, auquel les ongs n'y ont même pas penser, c'est d'apporter des lunettes de vue dans les écoles reculé, que sa soit en Thailande ou au Viet nam, la on fait vraiment des heureux, Imaginer la souffrance de un jeune qui veut apprendre, et qui ne vois pas le bout de son nez 🤪🤪, elle a fait quelques photos, des gosses une fois les montures sur leur nez, c'est comme si un miracle est arriver, voila des idée simple ..............😉
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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On sait bien que ta démarche part d' un bon sentiment, là n'est pas la question.
Mais il ne faudrait pas se méprendre : l' Asie du Sud-Est est loin de ressembler à certains pays d' Afrique!
Les besoins ne sont pas ceux, élémentaires, de stylos et de cahiers comme c'est le cas par exemple, dans les petits villages de Côte d' Ivoire ( pour parler de ce que je connais).
Là bas, j'avais apporté une centaine de stylos qui me restaient d' une campagne de pub que j'avais menée ( pour des produits pharmaceutiques). Sur le conseil d' un "sage", je les ai remis à l' instituteur du village qui a ensuite organisé la distribution. Et cela m'a ouvert les yeux sur certaines réalités. Les enfants auraient pu se BATTRE A MORT, S' ENTRETUER ( au sens propre) pour un stupide stylo à bille!!!
La nature humaine, c'est pas beau, dans le fond....
Là bas, j'avais apporté une centaine de stylos qui me restaient d' une campagne de pub que j'avais menée ( pour des produits pharmaceutiques). Sur le conseil d' un "sage", je les ai remis à l' instituteur du village qui a ensuite organisé la distribution. Et cela m'a ouvert les yeux sur certaines réalités. Les enfants auraient pu se BATTRE A MORT, S' ENTRETUER ( au sens propre) pour un stupide stylo à bille!!!
La nature humaine, c'est pas beau, dans le fond....
des boîtes d'environ 100 stylos à bille pour moins de 2 € !
Ouais, des stylos pourris qui n'écrivent plus dès qu'ils ont rencontré un grain de poussière ou une goutelette d'eau. Mais ça suffira bien pour les pauvres, surtout qu'on ne sera plus là pour les regarder les utiliser...
C'est vous qui le dites !
Moi je n'utilise que çà (ou aussi des feutres très bon marché) ...
Evidemment maintenant tu te retrouves avec une boite de 100 stylos sur les bras; il faut bien en faire quelque chose😉😏
Ouais, des stylos pourris qui n'écrivent plus dès qu'ils ont rencontré un grain de poussière ou une goutelette d'eau. Mais ça suffira bien pour les pauvres, surtout qu'on ne sera plus là pour les regarder les utiliser...
C'est vous qui le dites !
Moi je n'utilise que çà (ou aussi des feutres très bon marché) ...
Evidemment maintenant tu te retrouves avec une boite de 100 stylos sur les bras; il faut bien en faire quelque chose😉😏
Plus sérieusement ce serait peut etre plus utile d'aller au Laos, Cambodge, Birmanie, Vietnam, et essayer de donner non pas des stylos mais des livres pour apprendre a lire, écrire, ou je ne sais pas, des livres "culturels"; c'est vrai qu'il y a des besoins, mais même perdu au Laos j'ai toujours vu des ecoles avec au moins un tableau et quelques cahiers pour écrire.
Plus sérieusement ce serait peut etre plus utile d'aller au Laos, Cambodge, Birmanie, Vietnam, et essayer de donner non pas des stylos mais des livres pour apprendre a lire, écrire, ou je ne sais pas, des livres "culturels"; c'est vrai qu'il y a des besoins, mais même perdu au Laos j'ai toujours vu des ecoles avec au moins un tableau et quelques cahiers pour écrire.
Vous achetez en France des bouquins laotiens pour les enfants du Laos, puis les transportez dans vot' valoche par avion vers ... le Laos !
Cà au moins, c'est cul-turel 😉
Vous avez pensé au riz ... camarguais ?
Il est de très bonne qualité !
Vous achetez en France des bouquins laotiens pour les enfants du Laos, puis les transportez dans vot' valoche par avion vers ... le Laos !
Cà au moins, c'est cul-turel 😉
Vous avez pensé au riz ... camarguais ?
Il est de très bonne qualité !
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Mais il ne me semble pas avoir dit, a aucun moment, qu'il fallait acheter les bouquins en France !! mais bon c'est pas grave encore des hallucinations venant d'un Vfiste, ce n'est pas la première fois ceci dit.
Il me semble que n'importe qui en aurait logiquement déduit que ce serait surrement plus judicieux d'acheter les bouquins dans le pays même, mais apperement, pas vous 😉
Vous êtes "levé du pied gauche" ?
Engueulez votre chien, çà vous passera ...
Engueulez votre chien, çà vous passera ...
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Mais je déconne roooo alalala
J'ai pas de chien c'est tout la le problème!!j'engeule mon pérroquet mais il répète après alors ca m'énnerve encore plus 😄 alors je viens sur VF mais les gens sont suscéptibles 😉
Je plaisante no soucis 😉
Bonjour
Je vais te répondre à la place d un petit enfant au VN :
Un beau sourire encore un autre et un autre!!!
SI pour des rencontres au gré de votre voyage avec les enfants : distribuer avec discrétion
bes bonbons des bonbons et encore des bonbons au chocolat au noix de cocos etc ..coditionnés en sachets pas onéreux..achetés dans les hypermarchés en france " la fabrication fr a toujours la cote ).
Des habits achetés si besoins sur place pourquoi ramener un t shirt fabriqué au vn ???
Surtout pas de medicaments en quantité SI Traitement régulier personnel ordonnance du med tt
une ptite qtité pouir prévenir les bobos ok car bcp de medic ne sont pas admis par la douane du VN et il existe une liste a l ambassade vn a paris
j aimais pas trop les stylos çà me faisait penser a l école les maitres et maitresses !!!comme tous les enfants du monde j aime peu l ecole et tout ce qui me rappelle cet endroit (mais quand il faut y aller il faut y aller)
faut savoir quelque ce soit la chose donnée c tjours bien accepté avec le sourire des gosses
A vrai dire il ya 1 époque ou les stylos sont très appréciés memes les habits usagés aussi mais ce n est plus vrai pour les habits usagés
peut etre les adultes n apprécient pas trop mais les enfants oui
et puis vous pouvez faire des photos avec eux et les renvoyer après çà ferait 1 bon souvenir pour vs et eux!!!
et si vs voulez vraiment qqchose de plus conséquant passer par un ong en France
bes bonbons des bonbons et encore des bonbons
ça fait plaisir mais attention aux conséquences, des caries, des caries et des caries🙂
Le premier cadeau que la famille fait à leurs enfants une fois par an, ce sont des habits neufs le jour de l'an. Pour le reste de l'année, peu d'occasions pour la famille de leur en offrir.
Si l'on respecte un peu la tradition, achetons un peu sur place aux marchés les vêtements et à l'occasion leur en donner contre un sourire. Pour les enfants des minorités du Nord par exemple, ce sont des maillots de corps et sous-vêtements dont ils ont besoin.
ça fait plaisir mais attention aux conséquences, des caries, des caries et des caries🙂
Le premier cadeau que la famille fait à leurs enfants une fois par an, ce sont des habits neufs le jour de l'an. Pour le reste de l'année, peu d'occasions pour la famille de leur en offrir.
Si l'on respecte un peu la tradition, achetons un peu sur place aux marchés les vêtements et à l'occasion leur en donner contre un sourire. Pour les enfants des minorités du Nord par exemple, ce sont des maillots de corps et sous-vêtements dont ils ont besoin.
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W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Hé bein c'est du joli cette photo 😄
Tu n'as pas la même avec un prêtre par hazard !?
Tu n'as pas la même avec un prêtre par hazard !?
salut, je ne touche pas a la religion, , 🤪🤪
mais de loin je préfère la naïve de laetitiac004 encore une fois ........ Respecter les coutumes, et l'une d'entre elle est, TOUT SE MÉRITE les viets sont un peuple fier, ils ont virer la première puissance du monde, laisser leur leurs façon de voir la vie .........
mais de loin je préfère la naïve de laetitiac004 encore une fois ........ Respecter les coutumes, et l'une d'entre elle est, TOUT SE MÉRITE les viets sont un peuple fier, ils ont virer la première puissance du monde, laisser leur leurs façon de voir la vie .........
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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salut, je ne touche pas a la religion, , 🤪🤪
Et bien ca me surprent beaucoup que tu dise ca? même pour plaisanter tu ne parles jamais de religion, aucune que ce soit!?
Et bien ca me surprent beaucoup que tu dise ca? même pour plaisanter tu ne parles jamais de religion, aucune que ce soit!?
C'est vrai que c'est bien d'acheter sur place, mais effectivement pas toujours possible. Personne n'a la seule bonne réponse. il faut faire comme on le sent.
Entre deux voyages, j'ai une petite caisse, où je mets ce que j'aurai envie de donner aux enfants, au gré des rencontres. j'achète aussi des mini pochettes de crayons de couleur et des ballons et j'emmène une pompe spéciale. Ils adorent cela. j'en mets un peu chaque jour ds mon sac et dans ma veste.
Au Pérou, j'ai laissé mon stock de crayons ds une école. Rencontre émouvante même si je n' avais aucune langue commune avec cette maîtresse. J'emmène aussi des peluches. Après, on peut critiquer ma démarche. Ce qui compte, c'est peut-être le sourire d'un enfant.
Je fais toujours attention à la manière de donner parce que je ne veux pas blesser. A la fin du voyage, je vais aussi remercier la personne qui nettoie les chambres. On échange quelques mots et je laisse savons, shampoing, des échantillons de parfums. Marie.
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
Bonjour Marie,
Je pense que ta réponse est celle qui me plait le plus.. En effet il faut faire comme on sent.. Je fais la meme chose en ce qui concerne les dames de chambre, je laisse toujours quelque chose.. en tout cas merci pour ton experience
Laetitia
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A écouter la chanson : Mr roux - Papiers sacrés.
Salut UN sourire adressé aux gosses et dans ce sens d abord !!!!c est dans ce sens qu il faut saisir Si je ne conteste pas les caries dentaires que peuvent provoquer les bonbons Au VN, mon et notre pays c est toujours avec 1 sourire naturel que j avance vers les gens, ai je tort??? et puis etant Viet moi meme depuis plus de 63ans je pense connaitre les enfants que je fus il n y a pas longtemps et mes neuveux et nieces du vn chaque fois que je rentre 1 à 2 fois /an me les demandent tjours Je ne suis pas 1 touriste etranger qui quemande les sourires des gosses J ai moi meme 5 gosses de 20 a 40ans Et le fait d insister sur le coté pas cher c est pour souligner que les cadeaux les plus simples peuvent etre très appréciés Anecdote 1 ami est revenu du vn vers les années 1995 avec comme cadeau pour moi 1 petite carte du VN Celà m a beaucoup fait plaisir!!! peut etre c le plus beau cadeau qu on m a offert Si vous voulez parler des puissances financieres du systeme financier de la mondialisation avec leur effets négatifs ce n est pas le sujet ( je peux aussi en parler mais d autres auront le plaisir de rentrer avec bcoup plus de competences dans ces sujets d ailleurs très intéressants) je suis moi meme 1 révolté contre ces aspects négatifs cotre les pays pauvres émergents ou non, mais acheter quelques sachets de bonbons, je ne crois pas a contribuer à les renforcer et puis je n achete rarement les bonbons seulement 1 à2 fois toujours pour ma familles (les gosses) je contribue peut etre à enrichir les dentistes du vn jamais je les donne aux adultes (danger diabete et par ricrochet entretenir les industries pharmaceutiques!!!) d ailleurs les habits j ai dit acheter au vn ca peut aider les atisans et l industrie locaux j espère que ces quelques lignes suffisent à dissiper votre mépris (malentendu j veux dire)au sujet de qqs lignes inoffensives que j ai ecrites mon but c etait pour 1 peu egayer le forum ENCORE UNE FOIS JE NE SUIS PAS TOURISTE ETRANGER JE suis VIET PLUS QUE VIET ANALYSE ADN le PROUVE, descendant de TRIEU DA de le loi tran hung dao, etc ....et qui aime a sa manière, pas plus que d autres compatiotes à leur manière et qui n a qu 1 seul souhait que tout le monde soit cool et ne pas prendre au 1er degré tout!!!! Au fond j espère que votre réaction est naturelle et meme estimable vu le fait que je ne m exprime pas en Vietnamien?? VIENAM MUON MUON NAM et bonbons pas trop sauf si votre frere n est pas dentiste!! pour les adultes edulcorants de synthese exple aspartam sauf si vous avez des ations sanofi bayer MSD patati patata PS Je suis en train de réaliser mon petit reve faire 1 dispensaire et des salles de classes de langues etrangères
si vs etes interessé d y participer ce sera avec plaisir surtout pas de contribution financiere de votre part 1 bonne volonté suffit Peut etre a bientot
A la fin du voyage, je vais aussi remercier la personne qui nettoie les chambres. On échange quelques mots et je laisse savons, shampoing, des échantillons de parfums.
La pire charité de bas étage... Et t'a pensé à offrir du PQ ?
La pire charité de bas étage... Et t'a pensé à offrir du PQ ?
Léon, le vrai.
Salut Non seulement j apprécie votre proposition de lunettes Il est vrai que autrefois quand j etais gosse (annees 50, 60)un enfant atteint de trouble de réfraction (myopie hypermetropie astigmatisme ...se retrouve malgré lui avec des résultats plus de médiocres et refoulés au fond de la classe .on ne recherchait pas toujours la cause et l enfant va encore s enfoncer par cette mise à l écart actuellement surement les choses ont évoluées dans le bon sens mais la medecine scolaire est encore insuffisante à ses débuts ( je peux me tromper sur ce point d autres intervenants sont bienvenus pour nous eclairer )on s occupe déjà de l etat bucco dentaire par la distribution du fluor MAIs lunettes ou autres corrections (lent corn p exple doit etre prescrites) apres examen oph ou au mois d 1 opticien ce sra bien si oph et opticiens locaux cpevent creer si besoin" oph-ticien "avec frontieres pour les troubles de réfraction: les montures et verres au vn sont de qualités correctes et accessibles à bcoup( je ne veux pas parler les lunettes de soleils que j ai achetées en juin2008)chez i opticien d allure très sérieux : tous les rayons passent memes les uV )
ENCORE UNE FOIS JE NE SUIS PAS TOURISTE ETRANGER JE suis VIET PLUS QUE VIET ANALYSE ADN le PROUVE
je dirais simplement c'est c'est encore plus grave, car si tu connais ta culture tu sait très bien que tout se mérite , et donner des infos de touriste idiots, est vraiment pas la chose a ne pas faire, tu devrait être un exemple si comme tu le dis si haut etre Viet,
Encore un touriste a cette excuse de ne pas savoir 🤪, mais quelqu'un qui crie fort, je suis viet, c'est encore plus décevant,
je comprends mieux pourquoi les viets .n'aiment pas trop les Viet kieus
avec leur comportement d'occidentaux et arrogants,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Ben, moi ce que je ne comprends pas, c'est que le Monsieur se contente de citer quelqu'un d'autre mais n'ajoute jamais rien "à lui" !
Est-il timide oubien connaît-il tout du monde SAUF les forums ?
L'avenir nous le dira peut-être ?
Est-il timide oubien connaît-il tout du monde SAUF les forums ?
L'avenir nous le dira peut-être ?
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Salut
Avec correction et politesse
je vous dirai seulement une seule chose pour conclure :
votre caricature n a pas mérité de commentaire de ma part, vous devez déjà le remarquer, mon silence pour ne pas engendrer de tension inutile
En ce qui concerne la proposition de participer a quelquechose de positif à savoir mon projet de creer 1 dispensaire de campagne et des classes pour contribuer a notre très minime niveau à qqchose de concret pour le pays (avec pour précision aucune demande de participation financiere de votre part seulement 1 envie de faire du bien ) car j ai cru comprendre et persiste a croire que comme tous les vietnamiens de l etranger il vous reste de l energie pour contribuer par nos modeste moyen de réaliser qqchose de positive et concrète : j ai pour seule réponse :un silence total et des propos toujours déplaisants et puis on peut vouvoyer en attendant de se tutoyer 1 jour, non?
j ai répondu à Laetitia que je connais pas par des propos amicaux et vlan vous m envoyez 1 caricature déplacée qui n a pas sa place dans le sujet et questions posées par lAETITIA
Tous les touristes ne sont pas des pédophiles potentiels loin s en faut et dans le cas présent il s agit d 1 dame cherchant conseils pour visiter et connaitre 1 pays sans d autre but que démontrer son amitié pour ce pays et ce peuple . Il faut ouvrir un autre sujet sur pedophilie et touristes sexuel ( c est suremement 1 bon sujet )
Ne voulant plus polluer le forum par cette dispute stérile et par respect des autres intervenants je préfère clore notre discussion et vous souhaite néanmoins de reussir dans votre croisade contre pedophilie et tourisme sexuel
et espere peut etre pouvoir vous parler dans le calme, sans préjugé dans 1 lointain avenir
voyageur qui ne veut pas perdre son zen
je reçois que j'aurais du vous vous vouvoyer des le début, vu que vous le prennes mal,
Mais franchement, dire en public je ne suis pas une touriste je suis VIET es que cela vous donne plus de droit, que un simple touristes ou membres du forum ? es un signe de bien venu ? pour tout ses gens qui veulent visiter le viet nam?
Pour ce qui est des enfants, dans tout le sud est asiatique, se ne sont pas des singes auquel on a besoin de les appâter avec des sucreries, ils sont curieux, spontanées, et TRÈS accueillant, et leur sourires viennent spontanément si on a un bon feeling et les traiter en ami, et non en bête exotiques curieuses ..........
Puis madame si vous le permettez, quesque c'est embrasement sur 'la pédophilie >??? qui a mentionner cela, ??? ou simplement sa viens de votre imagination?
photo, , nous aussi somes photographes, 😉
Pour ce qui est des enfants, dans tout le sud est asiatique, se ne sont pas des singes auquel on a besoin de les appâter avec des sucreries, ils sont curieux, spontanées, et TRÈS accueillant, et leur sourires viennent spontanément si on a un bon feeling et les traiter en ami, et non en bête exotiques curieuses ..........
Puis madame si vous le permettez, quesque c'est embrasement sur 'la pédophilie >??? qui a mentionner cela, ??? ou simplement sa viens de votre imagination?
photo, , nous aussi somes photographes, 😉

« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Je respecte les réponses des autres. Première fois que quelqu'un s'adresse à moi de cette manière sur VF. Et vous, à part la critique, vous faites quoi ?
Savez-vous qu'à Taquilé, Pérou, les personnes agées n'ont pas les moyens de s'acheter du savon ! Elles utilisent l'herbe à savon. Leur en offrir n'est pas l'attitude que vous décrivez. Je ne fais pas de charité... Il y a la manière de le faire ! Manifestement, vous ignorez les bases des relations humaines. Vous sortez d'où !
J'évite les gens comme vous. Ils ne m'intéressent pas . Fin de la discussion. Marie
Savez-vous qu'à Taquilé, Pérou, les personnes agées n'ont pas les moyens de s'acheter du savon ! Elles utilisent l'herbe à savon. Leur en offrir n'est pas l'attitude que vous décrivez. Je ne fais pas de charité... Il y a la manière de le faire ! Manifestement, vous ignorez les bases des relations humaines. Vous sortez d'où !
J'évite les gens comme vous. Ils ne m'intéressent pas . Fin de la discussion. Marie
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
Un oubli de taille ! Quand on s'inscrit sur un forum, on apprend les règles du jeu. Erreur de jeunesse . Bienvenue sur VF. Espérons que les nouveaux membres auront des posts plus intéressants que les votres. Marie
On pourrait pas instaurer l'ostracisme pour les ....
On pourrait pas instaurer l'ostracisme pour les ....
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
je laisse savons, shampoing, des échantillons de parfums.
c'est peut être cela qui le chiffonne, ??, sa fait je donne mes restes, je n'en ait plus besoin, c'est pour vous, même si le vrai est extremenent antipathique ( comme moi ...) je suis un peut d'accord avec lui, , et qui sait ?? il est peut être généreux et constructif dans sa vie privée? pour avancer sans le connaître <<< Et vous, à part la critique, vous faites quoi ? >>>

c'est peut être cela qui le chiffonne, ??, sa fait je donne mes restes, je n'en ait plus besoin, c'est pour vous, même si le vrai est extremenent antipathique ( comme moi ...) je suis un peut d'accord avec lui, , et qui sait ?? il est peut être généreux et constructif dans sa vie privée? pour avancer sans le connaître <<< Et vous, à part la critique, vous faites quoi ? >>>

« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Rectification : pas les restes ! Pour le chien non plus 😉.
T'as pas mis un peu trop de savon pour le chien ????
Marie
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
Ils ont raison !
Si vous avez trop de savon (ou d'autres choses du même genre), virez-le, ne le donnez surtout pas à ceux qui n'en ont pas !
C'est dégradant ...
Et c'est pareil pour tout, si vous avez trop de bouffe et que vous n'arrivez pas à tout vous enfiler, jetez le surplus, surtout ne le proposez pas à l'enfant qui a faim et vous regarde avec envie !
Si la nature est bien faite, l'enfant en question ira fourrager dans les poubelles oubien les décharges pour s'y nourrir, au moins là çà n'est pas dégradant !
Si vous avez trop de savon (ou d'autres choses du même genre), virez-le, ne le donnez surtout pas à ceux qui n'en ont pas !
C'est dégradant ...
Et c'est pareil pour tout, si vous avez trop de bouffe et que vous n'arrivez pas à tout vous enfiler, jetez le surplus, surtout ne le proposez pas à l'enfant qui a faim et vous regarde avec envie !
Si la nature est bien faite, l'enfant en question ira fourrager dans les poubelles oubien les décharges pour s'y nourrir, au moins là çà n'est pas dégradant !
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
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Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
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Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
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3 nights in Bangkok
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3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
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Day 1: Departure from France
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Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
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Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
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Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
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Day 20: Return flight.
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Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!







