Construction à Koh Phi Phi
by Flipflop
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
en lisant ce petit blog tres sympa
http://www.tous-asie-muts.com/article-14526605.html
Salut Flipflop,
Ton lien ne fonctionne pas . 🙁
Ton lien ne fonctionne pas . 🙁
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Hé oui c'est la vérité en plus, je me souviens la première que je suis aller il y a très longtemps c'était un endroit magique mais maintenant victime de son succès . 🙁 http://www.tous-asie-muts.com/article-14526605.html
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Salut,
J'ai trouver Phi Phi moi aussi un peu "surchargé" mais en meme temps j'etais tres heureux de pouvoir la "partager" avec d'autre.
En meme temps le tarif n'est pas le meme...Au depart de la France, les Maldives (...les Seychelles et Maurice aussi ) sont 2 fois plus cher que la Thailande (Donc plus select 😉).
Koh Phi PHi ou la magie de l'ocean indien accessible à tous 😎. (Mer d'Andaman/Ocean Indien same same
for me😛).
Aykel
Voyager, c'est naître et mourir à chaque instant...
Victor Hugo
en plus je viens de voir un autre commentaire de sidartha sur son blog de Siamlife (qui apparement a repris😎, c'est plutot cool) eh bien on peut rajouter les problemes de pollution apparement et faire une croix sur cette petite ile magique si ca continue comme il a l'air de le dire😕😕
" Ils ne savaient pas que c'était impossible, alors ils l'ont fait. "
Je n'y suis allé qu'une seule fois (il y a +- 5 ans). Ok c'était mignon et ça peut être une chouette excursion depuis Phuket. Mais bof, ... il y a de plus beaux coins moins surfait.
@+
Thibaut
salut Flip
J'ai ouvert ce lien et effectivement ca a terriblement change
J'en garde un excellent souvenir mais c'etait en 2001
une vue de Bamboo qui elle j'espere n'a pas du changer
Je ne pense pas retourner un jour à KPP et pourtant je passe 2 mois tout les ans en Asie du SE
On se rencontrera peut etre un jour
à+ alain
N'es pa béù qu'es béù, es béù so qu'agrada!
traduction pour les nons provencaux :n'est pas beau ce qui est beau , est beau ce qu'on aime !
traduction pour les nons provencaux :n'est pas beau ce qui est beau , est beau ce qu'on aime !
😉Bonsoir Marco,
Encore une fois, grâce à toi et à ton lien correct j'ai pu lire enfin et comprendre de quoi ils essaient de parler au sujet de KPP dans ce post . Pourquoi, il est toujours si difficile de mettre un lien correctement sur V-F ? En ce qui concerne KPP comme pour KOH LIPE, qu'a-t-il de surprenant ? Tout le monde a vu de nouvelles constructions en place depuis Noël 2006 ! C'est une bonne chose de ne plus venir ! Et de laisser la place aux autres touristes qui l'aiment de venir et de revenir ! Ainsi on aura plus de places là bas ! Aller donc à KOH LANTA à côté à une heure de ferry . C'est 25 kms de plages et des centaines de Resorts le long de la Côte Ouest pour admirer le Coucher du soleil . Et au Vietnam, sur l'Ile de PHU QUOC, les investisseurs de Singapore et les gens du coin rêvent de la transformer rapidement en un 2ème Bali ou PHUKET pour faire venir beaucoup plus de touristes que ces dernières années ! Tout y est prêt avec la nouvelle piste d'atterrissage allongée pour recevoir plus d'avions gros porteurs que les minuscules ATR-72 à hélices à 72 passagers ! C'est sur ce genre d'Ile qu'il faut aller voir maintenant ! Après le grand Tsunami du 26/12/2004 on craignait pour l'avenir de KPP mais dès Noël 2005 les scandinaves, les anglo-saxons, les allemands, etc, commencaient à revenir en masses à KPP pour faire de la Plongée sous-marine et du snorkelling avec les quelques 15 clubs et ecoles de Plongée . Eux ils se plaignent pas trop à KPP et font la fête tous les soirs. __
Encore une fois, grâce à toi et à ton lien correct j'ai pu lire enfin et comprendre de quoi ils essaient de parler au sujet de KPP dans ce post . Pourquoi, il est toujours si difficile de mettre un lien correctement sur V-F ? En ce qui concerne KPP comme pour KOH LIPE, qu'a-t-il de surprenant ? Tout le monde a vu de nouvelles constructions en place depuis Noël 2006 ! C'est une bonne chose de ne plus venir ! Et de laisser la place aux autres touristes qui l'aiment de venir et de revenir ! Ainsi on aura plus de places là bas ! Aller donc à KOH LANTA à côté à une heure de ferry . C'est 25 kms de plages et des centaines de Resorts le long de la Côte Ouest pour admirer le Coucher du soleil . Et au Vietnam, sur l'Ile de PHU QUOC, les investisseurs de Singapore et les gens du coin rêvent de la transformer rapidement en un 2ème Bali ou PHUKET pour faire venir beaucoup plus de touristes que ces dernières années ! Tout y est prêt avec la nouvelle piste d'atterrissage allongée pour recevoir plus d'avions gros porteurs que les minuscules ATR-72 à hélices à 72 passagers ! C'est sur ce genre d'Ile qu'il faut aller voir maintenant ! Après le grand Tsunami du 26/12/2004 on craignait pour l'avenir de KPP mais dès Noël 2005 les scandinaves, les anglo-saxons, les allemands, etc, commencaient à revenir en masses à KPP pour faire de la Plongée sous-marine et du snorkelling avec les quelques 15 clubs et ecoles de Plongée . Eux ils se plaignent pas trop à KPP et font la fête tous les soirs. __
Encore une fois, grâce à toi et à ton lien correct j'ai pu lire enfin
et comprendre de quoi ils essaient de parler au sujet de KPP dans ce post .
Pourquoi, il est toujours si difficile de mettre un lien correctement sur V-F ?
En ce qui concerne KPP comme pour KOH LIPE, qu'a-t-il de surprenant ?
Tout le monde a vu de nouvelles constructions en place depuis Noël 2006 !
C'est une bonne chose de ne plus venir ! Et de laisser la place aux autres
touristes qui l'aiment de venir et de revenir ! Ainsi on aura plus de places là bas !
Aller donc à KOH LANTA à côté à une heure de ferry ......
Non nnthanh, pas Lanta surtout pas Lanta, y a rien a y voir, on s'y ennuie mortellement, c'est moche pas beau tout plein....restez a PP SVP 🤪
😛😉😄😄😏😏😏
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
....... et finalement même moi j'ai cédé à la pression de mon amie, et j'y serais en Février prochain, si on m'avait dit qu'un jour je mettrais les pieds sur cette île ..... 😉 mais je compte bien y passer de bons moments, j'ai tout prévu pour celà, et je compte bien également t'y rencontrer .....
Oyé,
Merci pour le coup de pub!!
Bamboo Island a pas changé en effet, un peu plus de bateaux à chaque fois mais ça passe encore.
Quelques petites photos histoire de faire réver:

Merci pour le coup de pub!!
Bamboo Island a pas changé en effet, un peu plus de bateaux à chaque fois mais ça passe encore.
Quelques petites photos histoire de faire réver:

Une nouvelle jetee est en effet en construction a Phi Phi et ce n'est pas dommage car entre le trafic passagers et marchandise (tout vient du continent), l'ancienne jetee devenait dangereuse. Pour decourager les nombreux decus de Phi Phi, il faut cependant dire qu'il y a encore moins de constructions dorenavant au'il y a trois ans, avant le tsunami. Donc on peut s'attendre a voir les constructions se poursuivre.
Cela dit et comme d'habitude tout le monde parle ici du coeur du village et de Maya bay. j'etais hier sur une plage de 700 metres ou nous etions trois personnes, a dix minutes du village. 😏😏😏
Enfin le plus marrant de l'histoire c'est que Phi Phi est demolie avec une grande regularite a tort ou a raison la n'est pas le probleme, sur ce forum, sur celui du routard, sur celui de lonely planet etc et au'il y a de plus en plus de monde. Cherchez l'erreur. 😄
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Ben oui c'est vrai les similan c'est tres beau, mais il n'y a pas de villegiature au sens propre. Et regardez les tarifs pour y passer trois jours sur bateaux de plongee. C'est pas 200 bahts la nuit... Un jour peut etre on construira des bungalows la bas puis des restos et les "hordes" (j'adore ce terme) de touristes (tu verrais la gueule des hordes sauvages😏) debarqueront. Et le mur des lamentations s'agrandira : c'est plus comme avant ouiiiiinnnnnn🏴☠️
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Un jour peut etre on construira des bungalows la bas puis des restos et les "hordes" (j'adore ce terme) de touristes
Non les Similans pas de construction en vue et ce pour un bon moment encore, car c'est une zone protégé et classé par la Princesse, il vaut mieux ainsi, ouf . 😉
Non les Similans pas de construction en vue et ce pour un bon moment encore, car c'est une zone protégé et classé par la Princesse, il vaut mieux ainsi, ouf . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Et donc seule une petite elite a le droit d'y acceder comme aux Maldives ou aux Seychelles. Eternel dilemme...Si quelqu'un a la solution pour limiter le nombre de personnes qui sont autorisees a mettre le pied sur Phi Phi par exemple ou Koh Lipe ou Koh Tao (mise a part celle evidente employee dans les lieux cites qui consistent a en faire des destinations de luxe ) qu'il la donne vite, tres vite....Vive le tourisme comme a Bora Bora !
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Oui la seule façon de préserver ces lieux magique, mais pas évident pour tout le monde . 🙁
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Vive le tourisme de milliardaires🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
henri, faire des Similans une zone classée, une zone protégée si je comprend bien n'est pas en faire une zone de tourisme de luxe mais pour limiter et contrôler l'afflux de touristes, je vois pas ou est le problème avec ca. Tu n'es pas pour le bétonnage a outrance, je ne le croirai pas....? Il faut bien garder certaines zones protégées non? ? S' il faut payer pour ca, je suis bien d'accord même si moi aussi je trouve cher.
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Vive le tourisme de milliardaires🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Dans le futur ça risque de le devenir en partie, tiens une nouvelle sait tu que bientôt un nouvel hôtel célèbre le Marriott va voir le jour à Kamala, je l'ai appris il y a quinze jours lorsque j'étais à Kamala .
Dans le futur ça risque de le devenir en partie, tiens une nouvelle sait tu que bientôt un nouvel hôtel célèbre le Marriott va voir le jour à Kamala, je l'ai appris il y a quinze jours lorsque j'étais à Kamala .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Je pense pas que tous ceux qui ont eté aux Similans soient des milliardaires? 🤪
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Je pense pas que tous ceux qui ont eté aux Similans soient des milliardaires? 🤪
Non pas du tout, encore heureux pour nous il manquerait plus que ça que ce soit réserver aux milliardaires . 😉
Non pas du tout, encore heureux pour nous il manquerait plus que ça que ce soit réserver aux milliardaires . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
😉 Bonsoir Olivier,
En ce qui concerne KOH LANTA ... je suis allé à KL plusieurs fois déjà après avoir vu le 1er Jeu TV du même nom sur TF1 ! Puis juste après le grand Tsunami du 26/12/2004 quand KPP était évacué et fermé après le désastre ... Une autre fois venant de KRABI et AO NANG et la dernière fois en Janvier 2007 avec le SuperSpeed Boat TGV qui a fait KOH LIPE - KOH LANTA via KOH BULON, KOH NGAI et KOH MOOK en moins de 4 hrs avec escales et à 8O kms/hr ! Donc, je connais assez bien cette Ile à une heure de ferry de KPP ... C'est vrai qu'on s'y ennuie mortellement comme tu le dis si bien ! Sur la Côte OUEST de KOH LANTA le long des 25 kms sur toute la longueur de l'Ile du Nord au Sud les Plages se relient les unes aux autres et il y a au moins 250 Resorts ( j'en ai compté sur la Carte et je suis arrivé à ce chiffre de 250 mais il y en a plus à l'extrême Sud, au Centre et sur la Côte EST de KL moins fréquentés par les touristes qui préfèrent la Côte occidentale parce que c'est là qu'on voit un des plus beaux Couchers du Soleil au Monde comme à BALI - d'après certains guides de voyages ...) Mais il y un gros problème de transport pour aller se ravitailler, prendre son ferry, retirer de l'argent d'un ATM/DAB, faire des courses et surfer sur Internet à un bon prix ... A cause de la distance à faire en Tuktuk à l'aller comme au retour et l'argent qu'on dépense pour faire ces courses sur des distances de 1O à 5O kms (Aller/retour) jusqu'au Port SALADAN à l'extrême Nord de l'Ile . La seule localité commerciale de KOH LANTA ! Pur s'amuser il y a la TV Thai Thailandaise le soir et des films en Vidéo il y a aussi quelques distractions-maisons des Resorts ! Je suis resté au Nord à 3-5 kms du Port pour y aller à pied ! Mais après tout ... les V-Fistes français de V-F n'aiment pas du tout les Iles avec des tas de touristes qui s'entassent les uns sur les autres comme à KPP que nombreux détestent ! C'est pour celà qu'on m'avait recommandé en 2005 d'aller à KOH LIPE parce que c'était encore sauvage pas trop de touristes ! Une fois arrivé sur place à Koh Lipe venant de KPP. Sais-tu ce que j'ai trouvé ? Un tas de touristes qui détestent d'autres touristes-qui-viennent-troubler le calme de leur Ile ! Maintenant ils sont servis avec les nombreux nouveaux arrivants russes plus sympas et heureux de passer leurs premières vacances loin de leur pays - au soleil et en Thailande ! La plupart des russes sont des gens modestes, jeunes en couples, plus sympas - qui économisent pendant toute l'année pour payer leur Vol sur des Chartes d'Aéroflot jusqu'en Malaisie à Langkawi . Eux au moins, ils ne râlent pas le long de journée et apprécient leurs courts séjours de 10 à 14 jours . Comme je sais que tu iras à KOH LANTA ... alors tu trouveras sur cette Ile le calme des plages mais il faut supporter l'ennui des longues soirées ! Et puis, on n'a pas besoin de "protéger" KOH LANTA des touristes, il y a de la place pour des milliers et des milliers de visiteurs sur les 25 kms + de plages et ils ont plus de 250 Resorts. On commence à parler des Iles des archipels au Nord de la Mer Andaman là il faut bien les protéger absolument ! C'est pour cela que je ne mentione pas du tout sue V-F comme me demandent quelques amis V-Fistes . Les dégâts sont limités parce que ces Iles sont très protégées par des dizaines de rangers postés sur place pour surveiller . Ce qu'on ne voit pas sur les autres Iles des Parcs Maritimes Nationaux en Thailande comme Tarutao et autres . Sur KOH PHI PHI à TONSAI, je peux te garantir qu'on ne s'ennuie pas du tout le soir ! Ici c'est toujours bourré à craquer entre le 16 Décembre et le 15 Janvier - c'est la PEAK SEASON la période la plus chère de l"année et c'est la plus animée et la plus joyeuse de L'Ile . __
En ce qui concerne KOH LANTA ... je suis allé à KL plusieurs fois déjà après avoir vu le 1er Jeu TV du même nom sur TF1 ! Puis juste après le grand Tsunami du 26/12/2004 quand KPP était évacué et fermé après le désastre ... Une autre fois venant de KRABI et AO NANG et la dernière fois en Janvier 2007 avec le SuperSpeed Boat TGV qui a fait KOH LIPE - KOH LANTA via KOH BULON, KOH NGAI et KOH MOOK en moins de 4 hrs avec escales et à 8O kms/hr ! Donc, je connais assez bien cette Ile à une heure de ferry de KPP ... C'est vrai qu'on s'y ennuie mortellement comme tu le dis si bien ! Sur la Côte OUEST de KOH LANTA le long des 25 kms sur toute la longueur de l'Ile du Nord au Sud les Plages se relient les unes aux autres et il y a au moins 250 Resorts ( j'en ai compté sur la Carte et je suis arrivé à ce chiffre de 250 mais il y en a plus à l'extrême Sud, au Centre et sur la Côte EST de KL moins fréquentés par les touristes qui préfèrent la Côte occidentale parce que c'est là qu'on voit un des plus beaux Couchers du Soleil au Monde comme à BALI - d'après certains guides de voyages ...) Mais il y un gros problème de transport pour aller se ravitailler, prendre son ferry, retirer de l'argent d'un ATM/DAB, faire des courses et surfer sur Internet à un bon prix ... A cause de la distance à faire en Tuktuk à l'aller comme au retour et l'argent qu'on dépense pour faire ces courses sur des distances de 1O à 5O kms (Aller/retour) jusqu'au Port SALADAN à l'extrême Nord de l'Ile . La seule localité commerciale de KOH LANTA ! Pur s'amuser il y a la TV Thai Thailandaise le soir et des films en Vidéo il y a aussi quelques distractions-maisons des Resorts ! Je suis resté au Nord à 3-5 kms du Port pour y aller à pied ! Mais après tout ... les V-Fistes français de V-F n'aiment pas du tout les Iles avec des tas de touristes qui s'entassent les uns sur les autres comme à KPP que nombreux détestent ! C'est pour celà qu'on m'avait recommandé en 2005 d'aller à KOH LIPE parce que c'était encore sauvage pas trop de touristes ! Une fois arrivé sur place à Koh Lipe venant de KPP. Sais-tu ce que j'ai trouvé ? Un tas de touristes qui détestent d'autres touristes-qui-viennent-troubler le calme de leur Ile ! Maintenant ils sont servis avec les nombreux nouveaux arrivants russes plus sympas et heureux de passer leurs premières vacances loin de leur pays - au soleil et en Thailande ! La plupart des russes sont des gens modestes, jeunes en couples, plus sympas - qui économisent pendant toute l'année pour payer leur Vol sur des Chartes d'Aéroflot jusqu'en Malaisie à Langkawi . Eux au moins, ils ne râlent pas le long de journée et apprécient leurs courts séjours de 10 à 14 jours . Comme je sais que tu iras à KOH LANTA ... alors tu trouveras sur cette Ile le calme des plages mais il faut supporter l'ennui des longues soirées ! Et puis, on n'a pas besoin de "protéger" KOH LANTA des touristes, il y a de la place pour des milliers et des milliers de visiteurs sur les 25 kms + de plages et ils ont plus de 250 Resorts. On commence à parler des Iles des archipels au Nord de la Mer Andaman là il faut bien les protéger absolument ! C'est pour cela que je ne mentione pas du tout sue V-F comme me demandent quelques amis V-Fistes . Les dégâts sont limités parce que ces Iles sont très protégées par des dizaines de rangers postés sur place pour surveiller . Ce qu'on ne voit pas sur les autres Iles des Parcs Maritimes Nationaux en Thailande comme Tarutao et autres . Sur KOH PHI PHI à TONSAI, je peux te garantir qu'on ne s'ennuie pas du tout le soir ! Ici c'est toujours bourré à craquer entre le 16 Décembre et le 15 Janvier - c'est la PEAK SEASON la période la plus chère de l"année et c'est la plus animée et la plus joyeuse de L'Ile . __
Salut Thanh,
Tu ne t'ennuies pas a Lanta si tu connais et sais ou aller, c'etait de l'humour, mais c'est vrai que je préfère rester au Nord vers port saladan mais tu oublies qu'il y a une autre ville sur l'autre côte "Old Lanta" 😉 Il y a quelques boites au Nord de Lanta et des karaoké pour les thais, et sur les plages de nombreux bars a cocktails qui ferment très tard dont certains accueillent des groupes musicaux tel que Job2do originaire de l'île, je préfère cette ambiance peur-être un peu moins délirante que celle de Phi Phi mais j'avais pas aimé ces hordes d'anglo-saxons et de francais du 9:3 s'ivrogner a coup de bocks avant d'aller vomir sur la plage. Si je veux faire la fête je la fais a Phuket, quand je vais a Lanta c'est pour retrouver un peu de calme même si ce n'est pas toujours le cas 😛 Mais j'aime aussi aller quelques jours au Sud de l' île découvrir de nouveaux resorts et ou je ne reste pas plus de 2 jours car il me faut un peu plus d'animation, c'est bien pour y aller en amoureux 😎
Tiens quelques photos, celle du bar-resto de mon amie Mama, je peux te dire qu'on ne s'y ennuie pas et qu'en pleine saison c'est pleins de monde et d'animation, on y mange bien, on y entend de la bonne musique et il y a même une machine a expresso pour boire du vrai café...je ne parlerai même pas des Mai tai que fait sa fille, parmis les meilleurs que j'ai pu déguster, elle est en plus très jolie et parle un peu le francais 😉



Je n'en dirai pas plus pour préserver ce qui reste de mon petit coin de paradis 😛
Tu ne t'ennuies pas a Lanta si tu connais et sais ou aller, c'etait de l'humour, mais c'est vrai que je préfère rester au Nord vers port saladan mais tu oublies qu'il y a une autre ville sur l'autre côte "Old Lanta" 😉 Il y a quelques boites au Nord de Lanta et des karaoké pour les thais, et sur les plages de nombreux bars a cocktails qui ferment très tard dont certains accueillent des groupes musicaux tel que Job2do originaire de l'île, je préfère cette ambiance peur-être un peu moins délirante que celle de Phi Phi mais j'avais pas aimé ces hordes d'anglo-saxons et de francais du 9:3 s'ivrogner a coup de bocks avant d'aller vomir sur la plage. Si je veux faire la fête je la fais a Phuket, quand je vais a Lanta c'est pour retrouver un peu de calme même si ce n'est pas toujours le cas 😛 Mais j'aime aussi aller quelques jours au Sud de l' île découvrir de nouveaux resorts et ou je ne reste pas plus de 2 jours car il me faut un peu plus d'animation, c'est bien pour y aller en amoureux 😎
Tiens quelques photos, celle du bar-resto de mon amie Mama, je peux te dire qu'on ne s'y ennuie pas et qu'en pleine saison c'est pleins de monde et d'animation, on y mange bien, on y entend de la bonne musique et il y a même une machine a expresso pour boire du vrai café...je ne parlerai même pas des Mai tai que fait sa fille, parmis les meilleurs que j'ai pu déguster, elle est en plus très jolie et parle un peu le francais 😉



Je n'en dirai pas plus pour préserver ce qui reste de mon petit coin de paradis 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Marriott ne va pas ouvrir un nouvel hôtel à Kamala, c'est en fait le Kamala bay garden resort qui va être managé par Marriott, d'ailleurs il s'appellera Courtyard by marriott, les chambres son très grande depuis 56 M2. il y a déjà un JW Marriott à Phuket à Mai khao beach.
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Il y d'autres zones protégée en Thaïlande et dans les iles comprises dans ces zones, il y a des bungalows, mais ce sont les exploitants qui limitent par eux même l'expansion (il y a des réunions pour les exploitants pour discuter de l'organisation des transports et de la promotion entre autre : comme des réunions de copropriété). Ils ont compris que si l'attrait de la nature de la simplicité disparaissait, ils perdraient une grande partie de la clientèle.
Pour certain des expats, ils ont connu Samui il y a 25 ans....😉😉😉
Pour certain des expats, ils ont connu Samui il y a 25 ans....😉😉😉
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
Marriott ne va pas ouvrir un nouvel hôtel à Kamala, c'est en fait le Kamala bay garden resort qui va être managé par Marriott, d'ailleurs il s'appellera Courtyard by marriott, les chambres son très grande depuis 56 M2. il y a déjà un JW Marriott à Phuket à Mai khao beach.
Managé oui peut être que tu as raison, d'ailleurs j'ai vu le mois dernier les gros travaux en train de se faire et prévu pour l'ouverture fin janvier ou début février, mais il y a aura bien un Marriott sur Kamala . Le JW Marriott à Maï-khao beach je connais ça fait un moment qu'il y est . Comme quoi il y a à peine une dizaine d'années personne ne voyait kamala prospérer aussi vite, il faut dire que cette plage est belle et Phuket n'est pas trop grand non plus, rien qu'à voir les projets énorme vers d'autres plages en cours et en prévision c'est à se demander jusque ou cela va s'arrêter .
Managé oui peut être que tu as raison, d'ailleurs j'ai vu le mois dernier les gros travaux en train de se faire et prévu pour l'ouverture fin janvier ou début février, mais il y a aura bien un Marriott sur Kamala . Le JW Marriott à Maï-khao beach je connais ça fait un moment qu'il y est . Comme quoi il y a à peine une dizaine d'années personne ne voyait kamala prospérer aussi vite, il faut dire que cette plage est belle et Phuket n'est pas trop grand non plus, rien qu'à voir les projets énorme vers d'autres plages en cours et en prévision c'est à se demander jusque ou cela va s'arrêter .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Cela aurait été bien que les resorts de luxe se limitent au Nord de l'île ou a ceux qu'on connait déja et préservé ainsi quelques endroits comme Kamala, mais faut aussi comprendre le besoin de se développer...comme tu dis Phuket n'est pas si grande même si elle l'est quan même par rapport a d'autres, y a pas de belles plages partout non plus 😕
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Cela aurait été bien que les resorts de luxe se limitent au Nord de l'île ou a ceux qu'on connait déja et préservé ainsi quelques endroits comme Kamala, mais faut aussi comprendre le besoin de se développer...comme tu dis Phuket n'est pas si grande même si elle l'est quan même par rapport a d'autres, y a pas de belles plages partout non plus 😕
Bon là je te réponds à ton post, il y a deux ans j'ai failli d'acheter un condominium dont je ne citerai pas le nom par respect, j'ai encore les papiers chez moi, et logiquement d'après les calculs de leurs part cela devait se louer à un certain montant au vu c'était alléchant, mais mais tout n'a pas était prévu ainsi et ces condominiums se louent difficilement au prix de base, because trop d'un coup, trop de concurrence d'un coup et encore ça construit pour le bonheur bien sur des constructeurs tant mieux pour eux certes, mais les particuliers ils ont en fait un bien mais pas trop compter dessus pour y faire du rendement en location .
Bon là je te réponds à ton post, il y a deux ans j'ai failli d'acheter un condominium dont je ne citerai pas le nom par respect, j'ai encore les papiers chez moi, et logiquement d'après les calculs de leurs part cela devait se louer à un certain montant au vu c'était alléchant, mais mais tout n'a pas était prévu ainsi et ces condominiums se louent difficilement au prix de base, because trop d'un coup, trop de concurrence d'un coup et encore ça construit pour le bonheur bien sur des constructeurs tant mieux pour eux certes, mais les particuliers ils ont en fait un bien mais pas trop compter dessus pour y faire du rendement en location .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Oui je te comprends bien je ne le ferai pas non plus mais les hoteliers n'ont pas ce problème eux, ils ont le soutien d'une plus grosse logistique derrière eux et n'attendent pas le client, ils vont le chercher, c'est aussi ca le problème 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Oui je te comprends bien je ne le ferai pas non plus mais les hoteliers n'ont pas ce problème eux, ils ont le soutien d'une plus grosse logistique derrière eux et n'attendent pas le client, ils vont le chercher, c'est aussi ca le problème 😉
Bien sur ils comptent énormément sur les TO, mais je me souviens lors du problème du SRAS ou de la grippe aviaire ça faisait peur, car je suis aller malgré tout, pas trop écouter ces médias, il y avait personne même dans Patong je suis aller voir un ami qui tient une très affaire même dans la Bangla Road à Patong le soir vers 23 heures c'était vide mais vide de vide, impressionnant comme quoi ça ne tient pas à grand chose .
Bien sur ils comptent énormément sur les TO, mais je me souviens lors du problème du SRAS ou de la grippe aviaire ça faisait peur, car je suis aller malgré tout, pas trop écouter ces médias, il y avait personne même dans Patong je suis aller voir un ami qui tient une très affaire même dans la Bangla Road à Patong le soir vers 23 heures c'était vide mais vide de vide, impressionnant comme quoi ça ne tient pas à grand chose .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
J'y suis allé aussi pendant la grippe aviaire, j'ai juste pas été voir de combats de coqs 😉 c'était un gros délire parano cette affaire. Quand je voyais les infos sur TV5, j'hallucinais on allait tous mourir 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
J'y suis allé aussi pendant la grippe aviaire, j'ai juste pas été voir de combats de coqs 😉 c'était un gros délire parano cette affaire. Quand je voyais les infos sur TV5, j'hallucinais on allait tous mourir 😛
Perso j'ai mener ma petite vie comme d'habitude et manger du poulet ou du canard ect....
Perso j'ai mener ma petite vie comme d'habitude et manger du poulet ou du canard ect....
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
😉du moment que tu manges le poulet bien cuit!!!!
c'est comme les chiens ils n'ont pas tous la rage, quoi que!!!!
A+ les amis
A+ les amis
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
J'y suis allé aussi pendant la grippe aviaire, j'ai juste pas été voir de combats de coqs 😉 c'était un gros délire parano cette affaire. Quand je voyais les infos sur TV5, j'hallucinais on allait tous mourir 😛
Perso j'ai mener ma petite vie comme d'habitude et manger du poulet ou du canard ect....
ben comme moi si je mange pas mon chicken green curry, c'est comme s'il me manquait quelque chose...et je parle pas des satay et autres BBQ chicken 😛
Perso j'ai mener ma petite vie comme d'habitude et manger du poulet ou du canard ect....
ben comme moi si je mange pas mon chicken green curry, c'est comme s'il me manquait quelque chose...et je parle pas des satay et autres BBQ chicken 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
J'y suis allé aussi pendant la grippe aviaire, j'ai juste pas été voir de combats de coqs 😉 c'était un gros délire parano cette affaire. Quand je voyais les infos sur TV5, j'hallucinais on allait tous mourir 😛
Perso j'ai mener ma petite vie comme d'habitude et manger du poulet ou du canard ect....
ben comme moi si je mange pas mon chicken green curry, c'est comme s'il me manquait quelque chose...et je parle pas des satay et autres BBQ chicken 😛
Mais bien sur, par contre Khun RRR il a fait plus fort que nous il a même manger du chien regarde son post au dessus . 😏😏😏
Perso j'ai mener ma petite vie comme d'habitude et manger du poulet ou du canard ect....
ben comme moi si je mange pas mon chicken green curry, c'est comme s'il me manquait quelque chose...et je parle pas des satay et autres BBQ chicken 😛
Mais bien sur, par contre Khun RRR il a fait plus fort que nous il a même manger du chien regarde son post au dessus . 😏😏😏
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
😉du moment que tu manges le poulet bien cuit!!!!
c'est comme les chiens ils n'ont pas tous la rage, quoi que!!!!
A+ les amis
Salut Khun RRR,
Change vite ton avatar il te regarde d'un drôle d'oeil .😏😏
A+ les amis
Salut Khun RRR,
Change vite ton avatar il te regarde d'un drôle d'oeil .😏😏
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Mais bien sur, par contre Khun RRR il a fait plus fort que nous il a même manger du chien regarde son post au dessus . 😏😏😏
Ca m'étonne pas Scoobi il est anthropophage, il mange même ses frères enragés 😉 il n'a peur de rien, il mangerait même du lombric grillé 😉😄😏
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Mais bien sur, par contre Khun RRR il a fait plus fort que nous il a même manger du chien regarde son post au dessus . 😏😏😏
Ca m'étonne pas Scoobi il est anthropophage, il mange même ses frères enragés 😉 il n'a peur de rien, il mangerait même du lombric grillé 😉😄😏
Même celui là il a manger . 😏😏😏
Même celui là il a manger . 😏😏😏

@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Sawadee Krap,
khun Barbot,
ça va comme ça 😄😏😏😏
rati savat
khun Barbot,
ça va comme ça 😄😏😏😏
rati savat
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
Ah oui il a l'air plus gentil celui là comme chien chien . 😏😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
tout ça parce qu'il a son neu pap, !!!
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
Fais un peu katoy la quand même 😉😄😏😏😛 le rose lui va si bien 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
ça te fait plaisir!!!!!
au moins!!!
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
Fais un peu katoy la quand même 😉😄😏😏😛 le rose lui va si bien 😉
MDR 😏😏😏 Aller Khun RRR tu es quitte à trouver un autre chien chien .mdr .😉
MDR 😏😏😏 Aller Khun RRR tu es quitte à trouver un autre chien chien .mdr .😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
ça te fait plaisir!!!!!
au moins!!!
Non je crois pas que ça fait plaisir à Boum . 😛😏😏😏😏
Non je crois pas que ça fait plaisir à Boum . 😛😏😏😏😏
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Fais un peu katoy la quand même 😉😄😏😏😛 le rose lui va si bien 😉
Je dirais même que ça fait cages aux folles .😏😏😏
Je dirais même que ça fait cages aux folles .😏😏😏
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
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Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
