Contre Khao San à Bangkok
by Fabios
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
moi je dis merci thaun, merci phenixthai, merci migrador et merci elpedro..
comment peut on dire KSR ce n est pas la thailande????? mais si c est une des facettes de la thailande.. toujours ce gout de l isolement, de decouvrir la ou les touristes ne vont pas... c est comme un ami venu en thailande y a qq temps qui me disait "non bangkok c est nul.." mais non pour moi bangkok est tout autant authentique que le nord ou le sud.. la thailande est vecu par des THAILANDAIS et des touristes quelque soient leurs origines et leurs convictions.. j etais a KSR pour la derniere fois fin octobre avec des amis thai, je n ai pas vu un seul touriste dans le bar ou nous etions et j ai vraiment bien rigolé... entre nous comme disais je sais plus qui je prefere dix fois sortir a KSR qu a patpong... il s avere que KSR a de gros avantages, notement de proposer des piaules pas cher pour voyageurs avec peu d argent, des agences de voyages a des prix imbattables... et rencontrer d autres touristes en voyage, c est toujours du bonheur.. et il n est pas compliqué de s eloigner un peu des gens qui nous font pas envie et de sympathiser avec ceux avec qui des affinités se créent...
KSR ce n est pas la thailande, c 'est comme Dakar ce n est pas le senegal ou la Paz ce n est pas la bolivie.. et bien si. ca en fait partie.. "c est une conception du voyage..." oui et bien pour moi critiquer des lieux qui sont autant "vecus" par tant de monde ce n est pas ma conception du voyage, gouter toutes les facettes possibles et avoir plus ou moins d affinités, oui.. etre contre, non.
pour moi l authenticité, c est voir des gens vivre. comme c est dit qq posts plus haut, voir des gens qui ramassent du riz dans les campagnes et faire "wouahou!!!!" beh la moi je trouve ca moyen meme si evidement ca fait aussi laaaargement partie de la vie thailandaise.. et voir des mecs bomber le torse, pas besoin d aller en thailande....
en meme temps fabio, tu es en famille alors je comprends..
comment peut on dire KSR ce n est pas la thailande????? mais si c est une des facettes de la thailande.. toujours ce gout de l isolement, de decouvrir la ou les touristes ne vont pas... c est comme un ami venu en thailande y a qq temps qui me disait "non bangkok c est nul.." mais non pour moi bangkok est tout autant authentique que le nord ou le sud.. la thailande est vecu par des THAILANDAIS et des touristes quelque soient leurs origines et leurs convictions.. j etais a KSR pour la derniere fois fin octobre avec des amis thai, je n ai pas vu un seul touriste dans le bar ou nous etions et j ai vraiment bien rigolé... entre nous comme disais je sais plus qui je prefere dix fois sortir a KSR qu a patpong... il s avere que KSR a de gros avantages, notement de proposer des piaules pas cher pour voyageurs avec peu d argent, des agences de voyages a des prix imbattables... et rencontrer d autres touristes en voyage, c est toujours du bonheur.. et il n est pas compliqué de s eloigner un peu des gens qui nous font pas envie et de sympathiser avec ceux avec qui des affinités se créent...
KSR ce n est pas la thailande, c 'est comme Dakar ce n est pas le senegal ou la Paz ce n est pas la bolivie.. et bien si. ca en fait partie.. "c est une conception du voyage..." oui et bien pour moi critiquer des lieux qui sont autant "vecus" par tant de monde ce n est pas ma conception du voyage, gouter toutes les facettes possibles et avoir plus ou moins d affinités, oui.. etre contre, non.
pour moi l authenticité, c est voir des gens vivre. comme c est dit qq posts plus haut, voir des gens qui ramassent du riz dans les campagnes et faire "wouahou!!!!" beh la moi je trouve ca moyen meme si evidement ca fait aussi laaaargement partie de la vie thailandaise.. et voir des mecs bomber le torse, pas besoin d aller en thailande....
en meme temps fabio, tu es en famille alors je comprends..
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dix fois sortir a KSR qu a patpong...
10000 fois pour moi, , mais laissons tomber un nouveau sujet stérile, , je crois que les contre 100% kaosan, , c'est simplement que il sont déçu que sa ne soit pas 100 % exotique, , ils se payent 100% de rêve avant de débarquer, se font un cinéma dans leur tête, , puis on tombe sur un macdonald un burger king, et pas vraiment de thais synaptiques, , du coup le coup de bambou est dur, , il faut bien que ils s'expriment, , banlanpou est simplement un quartier qui c'est développer autour du tourisme indépendant, , ou on trouve de tout, , de la guest a << naps>> a 0 euros, , a des guest plus luxueuses que pas mal d'hôtels, , moi je trouve que les thais on pigée commet faire de l'argent, ,
10000 fois pour moi, , mais laissons tomber un nouveau sujet stérile, , je crois que les contre 100% kaosan, , c'est simplement que il sont déçu que sa ne soit pas 100 % exotique, , ils se payent 100% de rêve avant de débarquer, se font un cinéma dans leur tête, , puis on tombe sur un macdonald un burger king, et pas vraiment de thais synaptiques, , du coup le coup de bambou est dur, , il faut bien que ils s'expriment, , banlanpou est simplement un quartier qui c'est développer autour du tourisme indépendant, , ou on trouve de tout, , de la guest a << naps>> a 0 euros, , a des guest plus luxueuses que pas mal d'hôtels, , moi je trouve que les thais on pigée commet faire de l'argent, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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voila c est ca...
tu me pousses a me repeter!!
"merci thuan." bis
sujet sterile, je suis d accord mais en rentrant de week end, je me tape les trois pages du topic, et gros besoin de reagir. voila c est fait!!
et le hamburger de chez mcdo a la galette de riz vaut le coup!!! (je plaisante🏴☠️)
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"merci thuan." bis
sujet sterile, je suis d accord mais en rentrant de week end, je me tape les trois pages du topic, et gros besoin de reagir. voila c est fait!!
et le hamburger de chez mcdo a la galette de riz vaut le coup!!! (je plaisante🏴☠️)
😄
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bien repondu pour KSR,
pour l autenticité ma definition se rapproche de la tienne, qui est trés pertinente,
l autenticité c est s emerveiller de tout du positif comme du negatif,
je viens de SURIN bien installé en tribune a l ombre a 500 bhts la place, j ai eu beaucoups d emotions pour le spectacle grandiose, mais aussi de la tristesse pour tout ces Thais debout en plein soleil aux places a 50 bhts,
auparavent j ai passer 3 semaines a Samui ou ma meilleure ami Issan est mama san dans un bar,
tous les soirs j y etais (avec ma compagne) jusqu a la fermeture car voir la montée en puissance de l ambiance est quelque chose d unique, la aussi derriere les sourires et la gaité, combien de drames ?
entre les 2 j ai visiter Ayutthaya quelle merveille ! j y ai aussi vu des Thais finissant de panser leurs plaies des recentes inondations,
tout cà pour dire comme toi que KSR est un carré de la mosaique Thai qui fait de ce pays, un pays unique au monde quand je parlais de la dureté du travail du riz ce n est pas pour m'extasié, je voulais dire que quand tu en chie pour gagner qq bhts tu n a pas de problemes pour comparer ceci ou cela, car pour eux ce n est meme pas envisagable de visiter leur pays (il y en a une majorité qui n a meme jamais vu la mer et qui ne la verront jamais) alors quand je lis " contre KSR " c est comme si je lisais " contre la Thailande", ca me fait un peu monter dans les tours,
cordialement ps : et quand on est en famille, on va dans des endroits POUR les familles
comment peut on dire KSR ce n est pas la thailande????? mais si c est une des facettes de la thailande..
pour moi l authenticité, c est voir des gens vivre. comme c est dit qq posts plus haut, voir des gens qui ramassent du riz dans les campagnes et faire "wouahou!!!!" beh la moi je trouve ca moyen meme si evidement ca fait aussi laaaargement partie de la vie thailandaise.. et voir des mecs bomber le torse, pas besoin d aller en thailande....
en meme temps fabio, tu es en famille alors je comprends..
tout cà pour dire comme toi que KSR est un carré de la mosaique Thai qui fait de ce pays, un pays unique au monde quand je parlais de la dureté du travail du riz ce n est pas pour m'extasié, je voulais dire que quand tu en chie pour gagner qq bhts tu n a pas de problemes pour comparer ceci ou cela, car pour eux ce n est meme pas envisagable de visiter leur pays (il y en a une majorité qui n a meme jamais vu la mer et qui ne la verront jamais) alors quand je lis " contre KSR " c est comme si je lisais " contre la Thailande", ca me fait un peu monter dans les tours,
cordialement ps : et quand on est en famille, on va dans des endroits POUR les familles
comment peut on dire KSR ce n est pas la thailande????? mais si c est une des facettes de la thailande..
pour moi l authenticité, c est voir des gens vivre. comme c est dit qq posts plus haut, voir des gens qui ramassent du riz dans les campagnes et faire "wouahou!!!!" beh la moi je trouve ca moyen meme si evidement ca fait aussi laaaargement partie de la vie thailandaise.. et voir des mecs bomber le torse, pas besoin d aller en thailande....
en meme temps fabio, tu es en famille alors je comprends..
En fait... Ou se trouve cette rue? J'ai regardé sur les plans de mon guide, introuvable, enfin, c'est écrit tellement petit...😕
Ca m'intrigue et j aimerais bien y faire un ptit tour histoire de me faire mon idée après avoir lu tout ça!
Et concernant les agences de voyages, pour aller à Ko Racha par ex, est ce que j ai meilleurs temps d'aller dans une agence à Bangkok ou est-ce préférable d aller voir en arrivant à Phuket?
Et qqun aurait un nom d'agence (avec l'adresse si possible...) à recommander?
Merci mille fois pour votre aide!
Merci mille fois pour votre aide!
"La terre n'est pas un don de nos parents, ce sont nos enfants qui nous la prêtent."
Bonjour à tous
Il y a 20 ans le discourt était le même. KSR ? trop de touristre, bruyant, plein de camé et d'alcoolo.... A ce moment là, il y avait encore de vielle baraque, des commerçants "traditionnel" qui te vendais du brik et brok, des soupes à dix bath dans la rue (comme partout en Thailande d'ailleur). Le " new World" était en construction... Bref j'ai vue KSR se transformer, les guest house devenir des "hotels" et des Thaï s'enrichir. He oui ça sert aussi à ça le tourisme. Mais toujours j'y revient . On ne peut que constater les choses et non les jugers. Connais-tu individuellement tout les touristes que tu croisent à KSR ? Non? Alors dit toi que certain pensent la même chose que toi: "Font chier tout ces touristes en Thailande!" Si la Thaïlande est très touristique c'est pas pour rien. Et n'oublions pas que notre pays LA FRANCE est le pays le plus touristique du monde. Qui s'en plaindrais ?
Manoune
Il y a 20 ans le discourt était le même. KSR ? trop de touristre, bruyant, plein de camé et d'alcoolo.... A ce moment là, il y avait encore de vielle baraque, des commerçants "traditionnel" qui te vendais du brik et brok, des soupes à dix bath dans la rue (comme partout en Thailande d'ailleur). Le " new World" était en construction... Bref j'ai vue KSR se transformer, les guest house devenir des "hotels" et des Thaï s'enrichir. He oui ça sert aussi à ça le tourisme. Mais toujours j'y revient . On ne peut que constater les choses et non les jugers. Connais-tu individuellement tout les touristes que tu croisent à KSR ? Non? Alors dit toi que certain pensent la même chose que toi: "Font chier tout ces touristes en Thailande!" Si la Thaïlande est très touristique c'est pas pour rien. Et n'oublions pas que notre pays LA FRANCE est le pays le plus touristique du monde. Qui s'en plaindrais ?
Manoune
Voyager c'est s'adapter.
Salut, je pars demain matin en Thailande et arrive a BKK, je n'ai pas reservé de chambres et vous m'avez presque donné envie de retourner a KSR. Je n'y suis pas retourné depuis plus de 10 ans et ca serait marrant peut etre, la derniere fois (en janvier cette année) j'etais a Sukhumvit au Royal Benja et j'ai trouvé assez moyen l'ambiance du quartier. J'avais lu un post sur le Rambuttri Village Inn, quelqu'un y a deja été? Faut-il reserver ou je trouverai facilement de la place? Il semble y avoir autant de pour que de contre, mais une piscine sur le toit avec vue sur un temple, cela merite le détour.
http://www.travelfish.org/accommodation_profile/thailand/bangkok_and_surrounds/bangkok/khao_san_road/all/846/1?ord=0
http://www.travelfish.org/accommodation_profile/thailand/bangkok_and_surrounds/bangkok/khao_san_road/all/846/1?ord=0
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Hum interessant, merci Thuan, Pumpui m'avait bien dit qu'on pouvait toujours compter sur toi. Je crois que je vais y aller alors, un petit tour aux temples me fera pas de mal. Y a juste le coup des tailleurs qui me gene un peu mais je resterai zen 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Hum interessant, merci Thuan, Pumpui m'avait bien dit qu'on pouvait toujours compter sur toi. Je crois que je vais y aller alors, un petit tour aux temples me fera pas de mal. Y a juste le coup des tailleurs qui me gene un peu mais je resterai zen 😉
merci, 😊, il y a un membre qui n'a pas été content du ram, , elle c'est plaint du coq qui la réveillait, , en face il y a un temple, , et visiblement il y a un coq, , mais dans le coin ce n'est pas les guest qui manquent, ,
merci, 😊, il y a un membre qui n'a pas été content du ram, , elle c'est plaint du coq qui la réveillait, , en face il y a un temple, , et visiblement il y a un coq, , mais dans le coin ce n'est pas les guest qui manquent, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Sawatdee kha.
featpOol > comment peut on dire KSR ce n est pas la thailande?????
Quand je disais que ce n'était pas la thailande, je voulais simplement dire, que KSR, reflète très mal et même pas du tout, le territoire et le peuple thailandais ! C'est un lieu artificiel pour les touristes c'est tout ! Mais je ne suis pas contre (même si j'apprécie peu😕), les artifices de ce genre, quand les touristes respectent les thai et se comportent d'une façon agréable et raisonnable ! Chacun a ses propres opinions et ses goûts, "apprécier peu, ne veut pas dire être contre"
Erika.
featpOol > comment peut on dire KSR ce n est pas la thailande?????
Quand je disais que ce n'était pas la thailande, je voulais simplement dire, que KSR, reflète très mal et même pas du tout, le territoire et le peuple thailandais ! C'est un lieu artificiel pour les touristes c'est tout ! Mais je ne suis pas contre (même si j'apprécie peu😕), les artifices de ce genre, quand les touristes respectent les thai et se comportent d'une façon agréable et raisonnable ! Chacun a ses propres opinions et ses goûts, "apprécier peu, ne veut pas dire être contre"
Erika.
Le sage se conforme aux principes éternels :
de la modération, de la droiture, de l'humanité
et de la justice. (Philosophie chinoise).
ca y est tout de suite ca va a l extreme bravo🙂 hors de propos....et bien mal venu ta petite remarque comme aller ds quartier pour des familles quand on est en famille...tu veux nous parquer aussi....ca n est pas question d etats d ames mais de simple sensation c physique si tu comprends pas tant pis....
Je m exprime c tout meme si le contre khao san est un peu extreme et puis s emerveiller du negatif comme du positif comme tu dis ca me fait bien rire comme philosophie tout le monde a ses points de vue et ses sensations sur certaines de choses c ce que g exprime c tout donc pas la peine d extrapoler le discours non plus
Moi, franchement Ksr a ete un vrai moment de bonheur......
Et c'est le seul moment ou je n'ai ete en contact qu'avec des thais.....😉
Alors dire que ce n'est pas la thaillande....C'est ou alors?
Pour moi tres bonne experience Ksr....
La ou le vent nous emporteras
content de t avoir fait rire,
tu creer un post a polemique et tu veux des reponses rose bonbon ?
😛
Je m exprime c tout meme si le contre khao san est un peu extreme et puis s emerveiller du negatif comme du positif comme tu dis ca me fait bien rire comme philosophie tout le monde a ses points de vue et ses sensations sur certaines de choses c ce que g exprime c tout donc pas la peine d extrapoler le discours non plus
Je m exprime c tout meme si le contre khao san est un peu extreme et puis s emerveiller du negatif comme du positif comme tu dis ca me fait bien rire comme philosophie tout le monde a ses points de vue et ses sensations sur certaines de choses c ce que g exprime c tout donc pas la peine d extrapoler le discours non plus
et bien mal venu ta petite remarque comme aller ds quartier pour des familles quand on est en famille...tu veux nous parquer aussi....
moi ? je parque personne, tu te parques tout seul re 😛
moi ? je parque personne, tu te parques tout seul re 😛
tu creer un post a polemique et tu veux des reponses rose bonbon ?
voyage forum est un tres bon site qui m a beaucoup aide a preparer le voyage donc tres bon site pour les renseignements et tout apres je me rends compte que quand tu donnes un point de vue un sentiment c plus la meme chose ca se lache ca extrapole (j aime bien ce mot) ca s excite....mais quand on s ennuie ds l isan je peux comprendre...😉
voyage forum est un tres bon site qui m a beaucoup aide a preparer le voyage donc tres bon site pour les renseignements et tout apres je me rends compte que quand tu donnes un point de vue un sentiment c plus la meme chose ca se lache ca extrapole (j aime bien ce mot) ca s excite....mais quand on s ennuie ds l isan je peux comprendre...😉
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je viens de SURIN bien installé en tribune a l ombre a 500 bhts la place, j ai eu beaucoups d emotions pour le spectacle grandiose, mais aussi de la tristesse pour tout ces Thais debout en plein soleil aux places a 50 bhts,
auparavent j ai passer 3 semaines a Samui ou ma meilleure ami Issan est mama san dans un bar, .... Perso, j, aime pas KSR .....😐...Pour de bonnes raisons qui m, appartiennent ..ceci dit. je defendrais KSR de toutes critiques.. CAR🤪 ce quartier de toxicos et de crados fait parti de la Thailande....Son existance merite le respect meme si on aime pas .................😐
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
bonsoir,
sans vouloir polemiquer, loin de là, je precise juste ma pensée: kao san road n'est pas la thailande. je l'ai dis et je le pense lorsque je lis le premier post.
lorsque l'on n'a pas assez de recul sur ce pays, je pense que l'on ne peux pas saisir cette option qui est que effectivemement cette rue est une bride de la thailande, que l'on aime ou pas...elle fait partie de son histoire.
et ces brides, on choisit de les aimer ou non et dans ce cas, cela n'engage en rien le fait que ce genre de lieu fait quand meme partie integrante de la vie d'un pays.
ce n'est pas la thailande que l'on attend lorsque l'on a acheter son voyage pour 15 jours. cela devient une part evidente lorsqu'on s'y attarde.
je prefere toujours dire à celui qui me dit (et ca arrive de temps a autre)" la thailande je n'ai pas aimer, des putes, des cons avec des jeunes gamines et des jeunes defoncés...et ces attrapes touriiiiistes, ohallalaaa" (en citant la fameuse re ou d'autre endrotis que vous connaissez) que ce n'est pas la thailande que les voyageurs abordent.
mais c'est aussi une question d'investissement personnel. soit on veut le savoir et on comprend.... soit on revient et on etiquette la thailande sur une rue qui n'est pas a l'image du reste du pays. (celui que j'ai vu du moin). meme si kao san fait partie du paysage moderne de royaume du siam...on est d'accord.
ce n'est pas la thailande que l'on attend lorsque l'on a acheter son voyage pour 15 jours. cela devient une part evidente lorsqu'on s'y attarde.
je prefere toujours dire à celui qui me dit (et ca arrive de temps a autre)" la thailande je n'ai pas aimer, des putes, des cons avec des jeunes gamines et des jeunes defoncés...et ces attrapes touriiiiistes, ohallalaaa" (en citant la fameuse re ou d'autre endrotis que vous connaissez) que ce n'est pas la thailande que les voyageurs abordent.
mais c'est aussi une question d'investissement personnel. soit on veut le savoir et on comprend.... soit on revient et on etiquette la thailande sur une rue qui n'est pas a l'image du reste du pays. (celui que j'ai vu du moin). meme si kao san fait partie du paysage moderne de royaume du siam...on est d'accord.
"not all who wander are lost"
aprés un periple delicieux d un mois decrit plus haut, si tu savais comme c est bon de s ennuyer en Issan, tout un art !
cultiver ses orchidées, tondre son gazon, aller a la piscine, faire du vtt, rencontrer des gens de passage execptionnels, voir les enfants jouer dans la rue, jouer avec ses chiens, admirer le lever et le coucher de soleil incomparables sur le menam khong et les rizieres, perfectionner son Thai avec sa compagne, et j oubliais :renseigner le voyageur sur VF en communiquant son amour de ce pays, et eventuellement qq fois polemiquer
je te le souhaite de pouvoir t ennuyer de la meme facon un jour, mais apparament le chemin est encore long pour toi...😉
exciter ou çà ? par rapport aux reponses qui ne flatte pas ton ego ?

tu creer un post a polemique et tu veux des reponses rose bonbon ?
voyage forum est un tres bon site qui m a beaucoup aide a preparer le voyage donc tres bon site pour les renseignements et tout apres je me rends compte que quand tu donnes un point de vue un sentiment c plus la meme chose ca se lache ca extrapole (j aime bien ce mot) ca s excite....mais quand on s ennuie ds l isan je peux comprendre...😉
je te le souhaite de pouvoir t ennuyer de la meme facon un jour, mais apparament le chemin est encore long pour toi...😉
exciter ou çà ? par rapport aux reponses qui ne flatte pas ton ego ?

tu creer un post a polemique et tu veux des reponses rose bonbon ?
voyage forum est un tres bon site qui m a beaucoup aide a preparer le voyage donc tres bon site pour les renseignements et tout apres je me rends compte que quand tu donnes un point de vue un sentiment c plus la meme chose ca se lache ca extrapole (j aime bien ce mot) ca s excite....mais quand on s ennuie ds l isan je peux comprendre...😉
Et c'est quoi la thaillande????
Le guide du routard😉
La ou le vent nous emporteras
merci poupette. debat futil, jsuis d accord, mais j ai l ipression que dans ma tete c est un peu plus que "pour ou contre Ko San....." car au final c est clair que c est pas farnchement important..
c est exactement ce que je voulais dire, mais mon coté "sang chaud" m a fait un peu moins garder mon calme..
je me permets de te dire que tu as une facon de voir les choses tres plaisante, continues, c est agréablede savoir que des gens voyagent avec cet etat d esprit!!!
fabio: te parquer?????? la aussi tu fais preuve d intelligence et de comprehension!!!! ca fait deux mois que je suis a Bangkok et un ami de mon age est venu me rendre visite avec sa copine et sa fille de 1 an et heureusement que je les ai pas emmenés dans certains endroits ou je vais de temps en temps!!! tu delires un peu la non? c est pas une questions de cataloguer, c est une question d intelligence comme tu le dis.. si emmener tes enfants partout ou tu irais seul (comme KSR par exemple !!) fais partie de l education que tu leur donnes et bien..... j ai rien a dire...
fabio: te parquer?????? la aussi tu fais preuve d intelligence et de comprehension!!!! ca fait deux mois que je suis a Bangkok et un ami de mon age est venu me rendre visite avec sa copine et sa fille de 1 an et heureusement que je les ai pas emmenés dans certains endroits ou je vais de temps en temps!!! tu delires un peu la non? c est pas une questions de cataloguer, c est une question d intelligence comme tu le dis.. si emmener tes enfants partout ou tu irais seul (comme KSR par exemple !!) fais partie de l education que tu leur donnes et bien..... j ai rien a dire...
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la thailande c est la vivre comme tu le souhaites!! et je repete pour moi l authenticité c est les gens qui vivent, quel qu en soit le mode. donc accepter que des mecs bombent le torse (ce qui m insuporte assez, mais que je juge pas)
des americains qui viennent visiter les vignobles du bordelais et qui me voient en se disant "cwois tu chéwi que c est un autochtone???" et bien oui. peut etre qu il s attendent a tomber sur un ptit vieux berret, baguette de pain sous le bras et petite charette?? et bien non raté.. possible qu il rentre chez eux en disant "mewde, en fwance y a des endwoits ou les mecs piccolent!!! wien d authentique!!!" et enplus on vendange a la machine!!!!😮
a mon avis pas mal de gens partent avec de belles idées preconsues des pays qu ils visitent!!!!
enfin bon c est comme ca que je le vois et ca n engage que moi 😎
des americains qui viennent visiter les vignobles du bordelais et qui me voient en se disant "cwois tu chéwi que c est un autochtone???" et bien oui. peut etre qu il s attendent a tomber sur un ptit vieux berret, baguette de pain sous le bras et petite charette?? et bien non raté.. possible qu il rentre chez eux en disant "mewde, en fwance y a des endwoits ou les mecs piccolent!!! wien d authentique!!!" et enplus on vendange a la machine!!!!😮
a mon avis pas mal de gens partent avec de belles idées preconsues des pays qu ils visitent!!!!
enfin bon c est comme ca que je le vois et ca n engage que moi 😎
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Quartiers interresants, je te conseille, Siam, Lumphini (c est la que se tien le seul poumon de bangkok (pour ceux qui habitent a bangkok comme moi ca fait du bien!!))
fabio: te parquer?????? la aussi tu fais preuve d intelligence et de comprehension!!!! ca fait deux mois que je suis a Bangkok et un ami de mon age est venu me rendre visite avec sa copine et sa fille de 1 an et heureusement que je les ai pas emmenés dans certains endroits ou je vais de temps en temps!!! tu delires un peu la non? c est pas une questions de cataloguer, c est une question d intelligence comme tu le dis.. si emmener tes enfants partout ou tu irais seul (comme KSR par exemple !!) fais partie de l education que tu leur donnes et bien..... j ai rien a dire...
j ai vu beaucoup de familles a khao san pas mal de poussettes ca n a pas l air de leur poser probleme apres je ne suis pas d accord que vient faire l intelligence ds le choix des destinations...? on est pas alle a patpong ou ds des gogo bars que je sache... on est parti de france pour 5 mois et on prend le temps de visiter tout alors oui y a du positif et du negatif et c tant mieux et c bien normal d etre decu ou enthousiasme apres voila khao san on a pas aime et voila c tout....ct un passage 1 nuit apres koh chang puis on est alle a thewet.... quand a tes remarques sur l education....😕 je pense qu on est assez senses pour choisir des destinations qui conviennent a tous c une question de bon sens...encore une fois en 5 mois c normal qu on puisse etre decu c humain on a pas le droit a l erreur? apres que ca polemique voila si ca amuse de passer des heures autour d un point de vue et dun sentiment....le francais aime bien ca apres tout🤪 mais certaines reactions m obligent a poursuivre et preciser les choses car y a des discours qui me semblent bien surs d eux et qui pretendent connaitre parfaitement ce qui est bien ou pas et je me mefie de cette facon de voir les choses...🏴☠️ au moins je pense avoir un minimum de modestie ds ma maniere de voyager...et ne pretend pas tout savoir connaitre ou diriger...je me cantonnerais aux renseignements et faits precis la prochaine fois autant pour moi...😎
j ai vu beaucoup de familles a khao san pas mal de poussettes ca n a pas l air de leur poser probleme apres je ne suis pas d accord que vient faire l intelligence ds le choix des destinations...? on est pas alle a patpong ou ds des gogo bars que je sache... on est parti de france pour 5 mois et on prend le temps de visiter tout alors oui y a du positif et du negatif et c tant mieux et c bien normal d etre decu ou enthousiasme apres voila khao san on a pas aime et voila c tout....ct un passage 1 nuit apres koh chang puis on est alle a thewet.... quand a tes remarques sur l education....😕 je pense qu on est assez senses pour choisir des destinations qui conviennent a tous c une question de bon sens...encore une fois en 5 mois c normal qu on puisse etre decu c humain on a pas le droit a l erreur? apres que ca polemique voila si ca amuse de passer des heures autour d un point de vue et dun sentiment....le francais aime bien ca apres tout🤪 mais certaines reactions m obligent a poursuivre et preciser les choses car y a des discours qui me semblent bien surs d eux et qui pretendent connaitre parfaitement ce qui est bien ou pas et je me mefie de cette facon de voir les choses...🏴☠️ au moins je pense avoir un minimum de modestie ds ma maniere de voyager...et ne pretend pas tout savoir connaitre ou diriger...je me cantonnerais aux renseignements et faits precis la prochaine fois autant pour moi...😎
dialogue sterile, tu commence bien et apres ca se gatte ( de mon point de vue) a aucun moment j ai dit tout savoir loin de la!! mais bon, comprends ce que tu veux. je reprochais la facon de le dire et non pas tes gouts evidement...
"facon de voyager", "le fancais aime bien ca apres tout", "des discours qui me semblent bien surs d eux et qui pretendent connaitre parfaitement ce qui est bien ou pas", "je pense avoir un minimum de modestie ds ma maniere de voyager", "pretend pas tout savoir connaitre ou diriger"...... voila..
je rappelle que c est un forum, c est un lieu (virtuel certes)pour discuter. je donne mon avis. je te rappelle que ton sujet s appelle "Contre KSR", elle est ou l humilité??? et la modestie?
voila tu t enflammes, j en fais de meme, si tu le veux bien on arrte la et on parle d autres chose.. enfin voila, plus tres envie de polemiquer, si c est pour etre juger comme ca.. je te rappelle qu a aucun moment je ne t ai jugé, j ai parlé de ton discours et de comment JE vois les choses, ca n engage que moi.
merci j arrete c est promis
"facon de voyager", "le fancais aime bien ca apres tout", "des discours qui me semblent bien surs d eux et qui pretendent connaitre parfaitement ce qui est bien ou pas", "je pense avoir un minimum de modestie ds ma maniere de voyager", "pretend pas tout savoir connaitre ou diriger"...... voila..
je rappelle que c est un forum, c est un lieu (virtuel certes)pour discuter. je donne mon avis. je te rappelle que ton sujet s appelle "Contre KSR", elle est ou l humilité??? et la modestie?
voila tu t enflammes, j en fais de meme, si tu le veux bien on arrte la et on parle d autres chose.. enfin voila, plus tres envie de polemiquer, si c est pour etre juger comme ca.. je te rappelle qu a aucun moment je ne t ai jugé, j ai parlé de ton discours et de comment JE vois les choses, ca n engage que moi.
merci j arrete c est promis
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dialogue sterile, tu commence bien et apres ca se gatte ( de mon point de vue) tout a fait d accord apres j avoue mon titre est un peu extreme mais bon la polemique n etait pas le but a moins que donner son avis est deja polemique en soit mais bon malgre le titre je suppose qu on peut lire le reste aussi mais bon chui d accord c sterile depuis longtemps deja il est temps de clore le debat pour moi bonne continuation ds votre voyage a tous....😉
merci fabios, mon grand pere disait toujours "le plus intelligent est celui qui cede le premier"... des fois ca marche, des fois non..
mais la c est tout aussi bien..
et alors Ko San, c est naze, mais alors raconte ce que tu as aimé alors plutot!!!
sans rancune aucune evidemant..
Paul.
mais la c est tout aussi bien..
et alors Ko San, c est naze, mais alors raconte ce que tu as aimé alors plutot!!!
sans rancune aucune evidemant..
Paul.
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J' y suis, le Rambuttri est cool pour la piscine mais moyen pour la chambre tres propre mais sans interet, petite. Sinon le quartier est cool, c'est le kaosan d'avant car KSR c'est vrai c'est devenu n'importe quoi il n' y a que le poste de flic qui reste intact, c'est tout dire. Sur ce j'ai plus de bath pour la machine, voilA KSR quand on sait ou on atterri c'est pas top, faut juste se faire pas trop d'illusion.
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
ahah vraiment bon le mc rice, je l'ai gouté il y a trois mois a singapour je n'ai pas aimé, et ici
il font le meme et je l'apprécie.
Sinon moi j'aime beaucou Khao san road, c'est la que je suis arrivé la premiere fois, et surement les meilleurs souvenirs que j'ai eu a bangkok. Il y a de la vie, le quartier est propre (interdiction d'ouvrir des gogobars..) des prix vraiment intéressant, des gens sympathique, le point de rencontre, le point de tout les départs, on fait toujours des rencontres sympa.
Boire un coup, aprés c sur qu'il y a des parasites, mais en France des parasite tu en a 200 au metre carré ici tu en a que 2 au metre carré ... et essentiellement des farang ? comment ca se fait...
Mais par contre je suis assez décu des francais sur khao san, les ouech mec, les zy..va, qui insulte et méprise les gens ... un ami m'a di que 3 de ce genre de personne on fait les mariolle devant des thai, ensuite ils sont parti avec le thai et bizaremment on les a jamais retrouvé, son til dans les égouts ou dans une fondation d'immeuble ?...
Sinon moi j'aime beaucou Khao san road, c'est la que je suis arrivé la premiere fois, et surement les meilleurs souvenirs que j'ai eu a bangkok. Il y a de la vie, le quartier est propre (interdiction d'ouvrir des gogobars..) des prix vraiment intéressant, des gens sympathique, le point de rencontre, le point de tout les départs, on fait toujours des rencontres sympa.
Boire un coup, aprés c sur qu'il y a des parasites, mais en France des parasite tu en a 200 au metre carré ici tu en a que 2 au metre carré ... et essentiellement des farang ? comment ca se fait...
Mais par contre je suis assez décu des francais sur khao san, les ouech mec, les zy..va, qui insulte et méprise les gens ... un ami m'a di que 3 de ce genre de personne on fait les mariolle devant des thai, ensuite ils sont parti avec le thai et bizaremment on les a jamais retrouvé, son til dans les égouts ou dans une fondation d'immeuble ?...
"Je vais lui faire une offre qu'il ne refusera pas"
J aime beaucoup khao san y a plein de commerce tres interessant, plein de thai qui viennent d un peu partout en thailande qui viennent pour travailler et qui sont plein d espoir et de bonne humeur
c'est comme pataya ca fait partie de la thailande, vous etes en plein dedans,
khao san ou sukkumvit sont les 2 passages obliges pour les touristes que nous sommes tous, avanturier s abstenir
sinon pour sortir c est pas desagreable le soir de temps en temps, cest quand meme une faune incroyable
sinon pour sortir c est pas desagreable le soir de temps en temps, cest quand meme une faune incroyable
et pourquoi cette reflexion ?
aucun rapport, merci... 😏
aucun rapport, merci... 😏
"not all who wander are lost"
je suis tout a fait d'accord.
disont que tu as assez de recul pour analyser la situation et en deduire une opinion.
ce qui n'est pas toujours le cas de ceux qui traversent le pays en moin de 15 jours (ceux a qui je pense)...
cette rue n'est pas ma tasse de thé. mais j'aime bcp m'y ballader le temps d'une soirée. apres tout...quand on y est pas pour sejourner, c'est une curiositée comme une autre qui fait partie, oui, du paysage de la thailande. mais voila....tout le monde ne lit pas entre les lignes et c'est pour cela que je n'hesite pas a deconseiller cette rue a ceux qui sont susceptible d'etre decu et de croire betement que la thaïlande n'est que ces clichés qu'ils attendaient avant le depart. kao san y repond souvent....malheureusement. je dis ca surtout vis à vis de ce que l'on m'a rapporté...
cette rue n'est pas ma tasse de thé. mais j'aime bcp m'y ballader le temps d'une soirée. apres tout...quand on y est pas pour sejourner, c'est une curiositée comme une autre qui fait partie, oui, du paysage de la thailande. mais voila....tout le monde ne lit pas entre les lignes et c'est pour cela que je n'hesite pas a deconseiller cette rue a ceux qui sont susceptible d'etre decu et de croire betement que la thaïlande n'est que ces clichés qu'ils attendaient avant le depart. kao san y repond souvent....malheureusement. je dis ca surtout vis à vis de ce que l'on m'a rapporté...
"not all who wander are lost"
"PatPong Road
La rue la plus connue de Bangkok. Ce quartier de nuit sent bon l’héritage culturel laissé par les soldats américains du temps de la guerre du Viet-Nam. Bangkok figurait en effet parmi leurs adresses pour le repos du guerrier. Tout un programme hein. De jour la rue est vide de contenu, mais dès que la nuit tombe les bars à filles s'animent, les hommes affluent, ça flambe de partout, l'odeur malsaine du tout est permis envahit les esprits."
Ce n'est qu'une rue de Bangkok. Bangkok offre bien plus d'interets, de jours comme de nuit, mais cela demande de faire un effort pour regarder au dela des apparences et peu sont prêt à faire cet effort, les strereotypes, sont comme les légendes, ils sont basés sur un fond de vérité, mais en définitive nous éloigne de celle-ci.
Pauvre F...
Ce n'est qu'une rue de Bangkok. Bangkok offre bien plus d'interets, de jours comme de nuit, mais cela demande de faire un effort pour regarder au dela des apparences et peu sont prêt à faire cet effort, les strereotypes, sont comme les légendes, ils sont basés sur un fond de vérité, mais en définitive nous éloigne de celle-ci.
Pauvre F...
"L'endroit où l'on vit est toujours les vacances des autres"
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
interessant comme definition et tres precise et tres bonne definition pour khao san ..🙂 c bien ce que je pensais donc khao san temple du tourisme de consommation pure et de l ephemere aucun interet pour le peuple la culture thaie aucune ouverture a autruijuste🤪 du loisir....merci phenix thai😉
en 2 mot, , kaosan est un endroit artificiel, , , , , ,
c est bien reel, des millions de baths qui changent de mains tout les jours, je connais des thais qui sont parti de rien et y ont monte leurs business a force de travail, donc la culture thai elle est bien la aussi avec wat prat keo et wat po proche, sanam luang, la chao praya devant, le bateau sur les klong pour patunam, et tous les bus on est au centre de bkk car c'es vrai qu il y a plein d endroits ou aller dans la journee pas besoin meme de passer dans KSR sauf pour des achats de cd tshirt bijoux tatouage ou billet d avion, car dans les rue autour y a plein d hotel de toute categories je vois aussi beaucoup de thai qui sortent le soir boire des coup car pour eux c'est un petit ilot de liberte je vois pas trop l interet de passage qques jours a bbkk de se prendre un hotel vers siam square ou sathorn en ce disant que c'est plus thai pour un farang qui passe je ne vois pas pourquoi on se priverai de virees le soir sur sukumvit et patpong et autre endroits, tout ca c'est la magie de bangkok
en 2 mot, , kaosan est un endroit artificiel, , , , , ,
c est bien reel, des millions de baths qui changent de mains tout les jours, je connais des thais qui sont parti de rien et y ont monte leurs business a force de travail, donc la culture thai elle est bien la aussi avec wat prat keo et wat po proche, sanam luang, la chao praya devant, le bateau sur les klong pour patunam, et tous les bus on est au centre de bkk car c'es vrai qu il y a plein d endroits ou aller dans la journee pas besoin meme de passer dans KSR sauf pour des achats de cd tshirt bijoux tatouage ou billet d avion, car dans les rue autour y a plein d hotel de toute categories je vois aussi beaucoup de thai qui sortent le soir boire des coup car pour eux c'est un petit ilot de liberte je vois pas trop l interet de passage qques jours a bbkk de se prendre un hotel vers siam square ou sathorn en ce disant que c'est plus thai pour un farang qui passe je ne vois pas pourquoi on se priverai de virees le soir sur sukumvit et patpong et autre endroits, tout ca c'est la magie de bangkok
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So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
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We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
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But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.








