Je pars dans 1 mois, je change a chaque fois de region, ce coup ci je vais à KOh chang car le coté Est est trop toursitique pour nous, je sais que Pattaya est touristique mais on sy arrete un ou deux jours histoire de visiter. Je n'arrive pas a trouver des photos des plages, je voulais savoir si elle etait turquoises et si il y avait des randonnées a faire et voir quelques animaux? Merci de ne pas recommencer le fameux débats de Pattaya et la prostitution !!!m😐
Pattaya et les plages
by Trotteuse
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
BOnjour,
Je pars dans 1 mois, je change a chaque fois de region, ce coup ci je vais à KOh chang car le coté Est est trop toursitique pour nous, je sais que Pattaya est touristique mais on sy arrete un ou deux jours histoire de visiter. Je n'arrive pas a trouver des photos des plages, je voulais savoir si elle etait turquoises et si il y avait des randonnées a faire et voir quelques animaux? Merci de ne pas recommencer le fameux débats de Pattaya et la prostitution !!!m😐
Je pars dans 1 mois, je change a chaque fois de region, ce coup ci je vais à KOh chang car le coté Est est trop toursitique pour nous, je sais que Pattaya est touristique mais on sy arrete un ou deux jours histoire de visiter. Je n'arrive pas a trouver des photos des plages, je voulais savoir si elle etait turquoises et si il y avait des randonnées a faire et voir quelques animaux? Merci de ne pas recommencer le fameux débats de Pattaya et la prostitution !!!m😐
La vie à la même valeur peut importe la taille de l'être qui la porte !
Bonjour,
Pour les photos fait une recherche du membre Pimilan il a mis plein de photos des plages de Pattaya .
Pour les photos fait une recherche du membre Pimilan il a mis plein de photos des plages de Pattaya .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
On est son propre refuge, qui d'autre pourrait l'être. Bouddha.
Silas
Silas
john a la plus symbolique des photos de plages de pattaya, , pour ce qui est des animaux, , ce n'est pas ce qui manque ils sont perchée sur des tabourets a la nuit tombante, , simple, , tout est artificielle, , ne pas oublier que de un cote de pattaya il y a le plus grand port de thailande, , et de l'autre cotée le plus grand centre industrielle de thailande, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Comme tu peut le voir c'est tres propre


Beurk vraiment affreux, ça fait douze ans que je vais en Thaïlande jamais j'ai mis les pieds à Pattaya et pourtant j'ai un ami français là-bas installer depuis vingt ans je le vois chaque année quand il vient en France .



Beurk vraiment affreux, ça fait douze ans que je vais en Thaïlande jamais j'ai mis les pieds à Pattaya et pourtant j'ai un ami français là-bas installer depuis vingt ans je le vois chaque année quand il vient en France .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
je vais à KOh chang car le coté Est est trop toursitique pour nous
Donc tu dois certainement parler de Koh Chang au large de Ranong, dans la mer Andaman. Mais dans ce cas pourquoi quand même aller vers Pattaya qui est à l'est de Bangkok ? Cha-am ou Hua Hin seraient plus approprié, non ?
Donc tu dois certainement parler de Koh Chang au large de Ranong, dans la mer Andaman. Mais dans ce cas pourquoi quand même aller vers Pattaya qui est à l'est de Bangkok ? Cha-am ou Hua Hin seraient plus approprié, non ?
La vie quotidienne d'une famille thailsacienne
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Oui, il y a des parcs, la plage la moins moche, c'est Jomtien, mais question touristes, si vous voulez les éviter, ce n'est pas là qu'il faut aller ! 
Pour Zoo et le reste tu trouveras ça dans tous les guides touristiques. 😕
Supprimer ce poste, il va encore attirer tous les curieux, pour ne pas dire voyeur du net, ..., il y a Pattaya dans le titre. 😛

Pour Zoo et le reste tu trouveras ça dans tous les guides touristiques. 😕
Supprimer ce poste, il va encore attirer tous les curieux, pour ne pas dire voyeur du net, ..., il y a Pattaya dans le titre. 😛
"L'endroit où l'on vit est toujours les vacances des autres"
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
Salut Trotteuse.
Je te déconseille de te promener à Pattaya pour les raisons suivantes : Les plages bétonnées avec vue sur les hôtels : pas fascinant. L'eau est vraiment pas propre du tout en regardant de près, car tous les égouts de Bangkok se déversent dans la Chao-phraya pour finir à Pattaya. L'esprit Thaï n'est pas présent, tous est bon pour arnaquer le touriste. Pattaya c'est comme Ibiza: on y vas pour se la péter, pour se montrer, c'est le zoo de l'espace. Le sida est très présent à Pattaya. Beaucoup de pervers aussi.
C'est dommage d'aller perdre sont temps dans ce foutoir. Il existe pleins d'autres endroits avec de belles plages à l'eau propre. Regarde un peu mon blog sur la Thaïlande, ca devrait te suggérer des autres possibilités de séjour en Thaïlande. http://riton.sportblog.fr
C'est dommage d'aller perdre sont temps dans ce foutoir. Il existe pleins d'autres endroits avec de belles plages à l'eau propre. Regarde un peu mon blog sur la Thaïlande, ca devrait te suggérer des autres possibilités de séjour en Thaïlande. http://riton.sportblog.fr
On ne désire pas ce qu'on ne connaît pas.
On écrit pour raconter, non pour prouver.
http://velo-thailand.over-blog.com/
http://velo-thailand.over-blog.com/
Oui merci, je connais la Thailande, j'ai etais deux fois. On est rentrés d'un TDM avec mon mari l'an dernier et on a travaillé comme des fous depuis 1 an.
On a un ptit budget et mon mari vx retourner en Thai pour le prix attractif de la vie. Moi j'aime bien mais je veux pas retourner vers la cote Est car même si Kho phi phi est splendide j'ai bien peur qu'en Octobre ce soit blindé!!!
sinon Pattaya je laisse tomber !! c'est triste que ce soit devenu comme ca On verra on va a KOh chang!! c'est bien?? et faire un tour a Koh Kood
sinon Pattaya je laisse tomber !! c'est triste que ce soit devenu comme ca On verra on va a KOh chang!! c'est bien?? et faire un tour a Koh Kood
La vie à la même valeur peut importe la taille de l'être qui la porte !
OK, je crois que j'ai compris :
Après correction : Moi j'aime bien mais je veux pas retourner vers la cote OUEst car même si Kho phi phi est splendide j'ai bien peur qu'en Octobre ce soit blindé!!!
Donc il s'agit bien de Koh Chang à l'Est 🙂 Et c'est très bien, surtout dans la partie sud de l'île, loin de White Sand Beach et des Mc'Do.
Après correction : Moi j'aime bien mais je veux pas retourner vers la cote OUEst car même si Kho phi phi est splendide j'ai bien peur qu'en Octobre ce soit blindé!!!
Donc il s'agit bien de Koh Chang à l'Est 🙂 Et c'est très bien, surtout dans la partie sud de l'île, loin de White Sand Beach et des Mc'Do.
La vie quotidienne d'une famille thailsacienne
Est, Ouest, j'ai inversé donc KOh chang est bien alorspour toi? de jolies plages tranquilles et de petit bungalows car les gros hotels🏴☠️
KOh Kood vaut le coup d'oeil? y'a t'il aussi des masseuses sur la plage comme j'ai vu a Phi Phi, Phuket
La vie à la même valeur peut importe la taille de l'être qui la porte !
Plus tu vas vers le sud de l'île, plus les plages sont tranquilles et les bungalows épars.
Utilise le moteur de recherche, il y a déjà eu de nombreuses discussions sur Koh Chang, une île où l'on trouve toutes les formes d'hébergement depuis la hutte à 200 Baths avec salle d'eau commune jusqu'au bungalow de grand luxe ou même la suite dans un bateau privé à 20 000 Baths.
Utilise le moteur de recherche, il y a déjà eu de nombreuses discussions sur Koh Chang, une île où l'on trouve toutes les formes d'hébergement depuis la hutte à 200 Baths avec salle d'eau commune jusqu'au bungalow de grand luxe ou même la suite dans un bateau privé à 20 000 Baths.
La vie quotidienne d'une famille thailsacienne
très bon deuxième degré, je ne connais pas, mais cela ne donne pas envie, même si certains disent que......
- J'ai des envies de voyage."L'Océanie, Bora-Bora, les Vahinés, tu connais?"
- "Pourquoi, tu veux m'emmener?"
- "On n'emmène pas des saucisses quand on va à Francfort.."
- t'aurais pu dire;"une rose quand on va sur la Loire, question de terme.."
ras la casquette avec ce bled;
y a pas de plages; du sable pollué par des canettes de bières (voir la tof plus haut) en plus c'est même pas écrit sur les cartes routières thai;
en fait c'est une vue de l'esprit,
en réalité ça n'existe pas; passons à autre chose 😠
"On a toujours quelqu'un au dessus de soi; par-delà Dieu même s'élève le Néant" Cioran
ras la casquette avec ce bled;
y en réalité ça n'existe pas; passons à autre chose 
de quel bled tu parle ?
😉

de quel bled tu parle ?
😉
les plages de pattaya vriament pas belles........
L'eau pas du tout turquoise !
Il reste la solution de prendre un ferry et aller se baigner sur une petite ile en face.
bon séjour.
le vent l'emportlora.......
"TU FAIS UN VOYAGE mais C'EST LE VOYAGE QUI TE FAIT !"
"TU FAIS UN VOYAGE mais C'EST LE VOYAGE QUI TE FAIT !"
Je vis à Pattaya depuis 13 ans... Tout ce qui se dit est vrai et faux à la fois. Dès que vous sortez de Pattaya, vous trouverez des plages magnifiques, des paysages somptueux et des gens adorables... Coyez-moi, il faut bien + de 2 jours pour visiter...
Koh Chang est une très belle île que je connais très bien. Pour la découvrir, il est indispensable de louer un moto (ou une voiture).
Nicolas
Koh Chang est une très belle île que je connais très bien. Pour la découvrir, il est indispensable de louer un moto (ou une voiture).
Nicolas
Nicolas
Ok deux jours pour visiter !!!!!!😎 et apres on fait quoi ????😏
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Vous faites de l'intégrisme ! Vous n'avez séjourné à Pattaya sans doute que quelques jours et vous êtes contenté des bordels... Chacun son truc et tout le monde a le droit de vivre.
Mais Pattaya c'est beaucoup plus, encore faut-il se bouger un peu. Vous trouverez des plages magnifiques et désertes à quelques Km, des paysages en campagne somptueux etc...
J'y habite depuis 13 ans et croyez-moi ou pas, je ne vais jamais dans les bordels ni sur les plages sales qui d'ailleurs le sont de - en - car de gros efforts sont faits par les autorités.
Connaissez-vous le "Sanctaury of truth" ?? Connaissez-vous la région de Sylver lake ??? Connaissez-vous les plage de Na-Jomtien ? Connaisez-vous les parcours de Golf autour de Pattaya ?, Connaissez-vous Nong Nooch ? Connaissez-vous Koh Khrok & Koh sak ? Avez-vous vu les champs d'amémones de mer au large de Bang Saray ? Connaissez-vous Koh Phai (l'île aux bambous)... Je pourrais continer longtemps encore...
En résumé et pour paraphraser Coluche, quand on en sais aussi peu, on a tout intérêt à fermer sa gueule...
Mais Pattaya c'est beaucoup plus, encore faut-il se bouger un peu. Vous trouverez des plages magnifiques et désertes à quelques Km, des paysages en campagne somptueux etc...
J'y habite depuis 13 ans et croyez-moi ou pas, je ne vais jamais dans les bordels ni sur les plages sales qui d'ailleurs le sont de - en - car de gros efforts sont faits par les autorités.
Connaissez-vous le "Sanctaury of truth" ?? Connaissez-vous la région de Sylver lake ??? Connaissez-vous les plage de Na-Jomtien ? Connaisez-vous les parcours de Golf autour de Pattaya ?, Connaissez-vous Nong Nooch ? Connaissez-vous Koh Khrok & Koh sak ? Avez-vous vu les champs d'amémones de mer au large de Bang Saray ? Connaissez-vous Koh Phai (l'île aux bambous)... Je pourrais continer longtemps encore...
En résumé et pour paraphraser Coluche, quand on en sais aussi peu, on a tout intérêt à fermer sa gueule...
Nicolas
Alleeeeeeeeeeeeezzz !!!!! et c, est reparti pour un tour !!!!😏
Et les enfants vous avez entendu la voie du seigneur ?????
Faut se bouger un peu, , y, a des choses a voir en Thailande !!!!!! vous ne le saviez pas ??allez allez bougez vous!!!!!!!!!! 😎😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏 !
Et les enfants vous avez entendu la voie du seigneur ?????
Faut se bouger un peu, , y, a des choses a voir en Thailande !!!!!! vous ne le saviez pas ??allez allez bougez vous!!!!!!!!!! 😎😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏 !
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Intégrisme?
Sur les cartes routières que j'ai de la Thailande (cartes thai, en l'occurence), ce bled n'existe pas; il n'est marqué que Hat Pattaya en tout petit ;
Et puis la question concerne Pattaya et ses plages; que je sache Jomtien n'est pas Pattaya même si ce n'est pas loin. Et tous les lieux que vous citez n'ont pas grand chose ou rien à voir avec des plages et la ville de Pattaya. Koh Phai (l'île aux bambous), c'est pas Pattaya. En plus il n'y a pas de bordels pour farang à Pattaya; il y en a pour les thai mais comme vous êtes farang vous n'avez pas le droit d'y aller. Faut savoir plein de trucs quand on veut parler de certaines choses... Par exemple qu'un flic thai a le droit d'avoir un deuxième métier et que ce métier peut très bien être "manager" de gogo;
Sur les cartes routières que j'ai de la Thailande (cartes thai, en l'occurence), ce bled n'existe pas; il n'est marqué que Hat Pattaya en tout petit ;
Et puis la question concerne Pattaya et ses plages; que je sache Jomtien n'est pas Pattaya même si ce n'est pas loin. Et tous les lieux que vous citez n'ont pas grand chose ou rien à voir avec des plages et la ville de Pattaya. Koh Phai (l'île aux bambous), c'est pas Pattaya. En plus il n'y a pas de bordels pour farang à Pattaya; il y en a pour les thai mais comme vous êtes farang vous n'avez pas le droit d'y aller. Faut savoir plein de trucs quand on veut parler de certaines choses... Par exemple qu'un flic thai a le droit d'avoir un deuxième métier et que ce métier peut très bien être "manager" de gogo;
"On a toujours quelqu'un au dessus de soi; par-delà Dieu même s'élève le Néant" Cioran
Sur les cartes routières que j'ai de la Thailande (cartes thai, en l'occurence), ce bled n'existe pas; il n'est marqué que Hat Pattaya en tout petit ;
Et puis la question concerne Pattaya et ses plages; que je sache Jomtien n'est pas Pattaya même si ce n'est pas loin. Et tous les lieux que vous citez n'ont pas grand chose ou rien à voir avec des plages et la ville de Pattaya..........
😎 .....comme l Issan, c'est tres calme, bouseux, integriste mais, dés que tu fait 2 pas, tu a Khountep et sa culture, ou Kho Samui et ses plages....... 😉
Et puis la question concerne Pattaya et ses plages; que je sache Jomtien n'est pas Pattaya même si ce n'est pas loin. Et tous les lieux que vous citez n'ont pas grand chose ou rien à voir avec des plages et la ville de Pattaya..........
😎 .....comme l Issan, c'est tres calme, bouseux, integriste mais, dés que tu fait 2 pas, tu a Khountep et sa culture, ou Kho Samui et ses plages....... 😉
Je crois que les fans de l'Isaan oublie le plus important, un pays c'est un tout. Et si des familles vivent mieux en Isaan elles le doivent en partie grâce à des "lao" qui vont travaillés à Pattaya et pas seulement des filles à tabourets. il y a des serveurs, des employés divers etc. Si Pattaya a environ entre 300'000 et 600'000 thais qui y habitent, alors que officiellement il n'y en a que 100'000 environ, c'est que cette ville donne du travail à beaucoup de thais et la prostitution ne représente qu'une petite partie difficile à évaluer. Ce qui est difficilement soutenable c'est les gens qui critiquent un endroit ou des thais peuvent gagner plus qu'en restant dans leur campagne...Et en plus dans plein de discussion complétement lointaine de Pattaya hoangnam49 et Voyageurasie n'arrête pas de se moquer de cette ville, alors que si on voulait le faire pour critiquer l'isaan on pourrait le faire aussi à chaque discussion, en disant simplement que les gens d'isaan sont pratiquement tous des soulards, ce qui est proche de la triste réalité...
Quanf à hoangnam qui dit que Jomtien n'est pas Pattaya, c'est fauc une partie de Jomtien est dans la commune de Pattaya, désolé...Hoangnam avec 1 année d'expérience en thailande il est difficile de tout connaitre d'autant plus quand on a avoué que l'on avait perdu sa tête à Pattaya...Et apparement il l'a cherche toujours...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Fausse manoeuvre... Et puis merde, cela ne vaut pas le coup de discuter avec vous...
😇 aller, Nicolas,
le Forum c'est comme Don Camillo, ou un match de rugby, y a la 3° mi-temps
on se "chiffonne " un peu, mais on se complete, et puis si on est là, c'est que l'on aime tous la Thailande,
promis, si un jour je passe a Pattaya, je t' invite a boire un coup, (serait avec ma compagne Issan ) 😉
cordialement
😇 aller, Nicolas,
le Forum c'est comme Don Camillo, ou un match de rugby, y a la 3° mi-temps
on se "chiffonne " un peu, mais on se complete, et puis si on est là, c'est que l'on aime tous la Thailande,
promis, si un jour je passe a Pattaya, je t' invite a boire un coup, (serait avec ma compagne Issan ) 😉
cordialement
Et en plus dans plein de discussion complétement lointaine de Pattaya hoangnam49 et Voyageurasie n'arrête pas de se moquer de cette ville, alors que si on voulait le faire pour critiquer l'isaan on pourrait le faire aussi à chaque discussion,
😐 monsieur Piliman, vous avez la memoire courte, il y a qq semaines j'ai fait un post dans" pensées de voyageurs "ou je parlais de" bled perdu"en Issan vous m'avez répondu en disant: bled perdu "pourri", reflexion gratuite sur un post "personnel" qui n'etait en aucune facon sujet a polemique d'ou depuis les petites piques, quand on cherche, on trouve, ensuite faut pas venir pleuré publiquement comme un gamin, alors avant de vouloir faire la morale, comme vous a dit un jour une de vos compatriotes : commencez par balayer devant votre porte, j'aurais bien aimer vous grouper dans ma réponsea Nicolas, mais vous ete completement denué d'humour, et par votre facon de reagir, vous desserver plus Pattaya, que le contraire, comme vous la si bien dit poupette 🙁
😐 monsieur Piliman, vous avez la memoire courte, il y a qq semaines j'ai fait un post dans" pensées de voyageurs "ou je parlais de" bled perdu"en Issan vous m'avez répondu en disant: bled perdu "pourri", reflexion gratuite sur un post "personnel" qui n'etait en aucune facon sujet a polemique d'ou depuis les petites piques, quand on cherche, on trouve, ensuite faut pas venir pleuré publiquement comme un gamin, alors avant de vouloir faire la morale, comme vous a dit un jour une de vos compatriotes : commencez par balayer devant votre porte, j'aurais bien aimer vous grouper dans ma réponsea Nicolas, mais vous ete completement denué d'humour, et par votre facon de reagir, vous desserver plus Pattaya, que le contraire, comme vous la si bien dit poupette 🙁
Il est vrai que pour certaine personne "agée" Pattaya est une ville trop extrème.
Cela dit on ne peut nier que Pattaya est utile pour beaucoup de thais, qu'on le veuille ou non...
Quand à dire Voyageurasie que "C'est mon pays" l'isaan, c'est facile de prendre sa retraite avec un salaire AU MINIMUN 10x plus élevé que les paysans du coin, et quand on rajoute un pick up acheté cash, ordi et cetainement plein d'autres choses on a de la peine à croire que la vie est authentique dans ses conditions...
Quand à dire Voyageurasie que "C'est mon pays" l'isaan, c'est facile de prendre sa retraite avec un salaire AU MINIMUN 10x plus élevé que les paysans du coin, et quand on rajoute un pick up acheté cash, ordi et cetainement plein d'autres choses on a de la peine à croire que la vie est authentique dans ses conditions...

Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
c'est bien ce que je disais dans mon precedent post :
<<mais vous ete completement denué d'humour, et par votre facon de reagir, vous desserver plus Pattaya, que le contraire, comme vous la si bien dit poupette 🙁 >>
et je rajoutrais :vous avez en plus, une bonne dose de mechanceté gratuite, que votre vie doit etre bien triste !
pour moi c'est clos....
<<mais vous ete completement denué d'humour, et par votre facon de reagir, vous desserver plus Pattaya, que le contraire, comme vous la si bien dit poupette 🙁 >>
et je rajoutrais :vous avez en plus, une bonne dose de mechanceté gratuite, que votre vie doit etre bien triste !
pour moi c'est clos....
Décidement hoangnam49 ne connait que peu de choses du pays et les erreurs se trouvent à la pelle.
Les iles avoisinantes FONT partie de la commune de Pattaya qui a une supercicie de 208, 1 km2, dont 154, 66 de mer et d'iles...Les côtes de Pattaya font 15 km...Il faut toujours tout rappeler à ces nouveaux touristes qui viennent de débarquer en Thailande et qui ont visités les soi entre beach road et seconde road + walking street, bref le touriste qui n'y connait rien...Mais qui veut faire croire qu'il connait...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Eh oui la vérité est dure...
Quand à moi je suis un joyeux luron qui m'occupe avant tout de ma femme et de mes 3 enfants, après il y a la musique et en dernier les voyages...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
- --En I-ssan tous des soulards ?😛--PIMILAN
Eh alors la tu es de mauvaise fois!!!!!!1😏 ...On sait bien que beaucoup de gens aiment Pattaya, et qu, il y a tout pour vivre a l, occidentale a bas pris ..sans parler es tabourets ...Personne n, a dit le contraire ..Mais tout le monde sait bien que pattaya et tout ce qui s, y rapporte est artificiel de A a Z ....Rien a voir avec la Thailande... Meme les Thais eux meme qui sont nombreux a y tavailler et qui y trouvent leur compte bien sur n, est qu, une immense mise en scene pour attirer les touristes ....Eux, meme le disent quand ils reviennent dans leur villages et racontent ....Les plus courageux parlent rapidement de la pegre sans s, ettendre sur le sujet ..
Oui PATTAYA c, est bien pour les gens du style Pimilan et d, autres encore, et ca vous regarde, mais ne venez pas nous faire la PUB d, une ville que nous connaissons TRES BIEN...et on peut vous en apprendre certainement, , , !!!!
La 3eme mi -temps c, est mieux 😉
Eh alors la tu es de mauvaise fois!!!!!!1😏 ...On sait bien que beaucoup de gens aiment Pattaya, et qu, il y a tout pour vivre a l, occidentale a bas pris ..sans parler es tabourets ...Personne n, a dit le contraire ..Mais tout le monde sait bien que pattaya et tout ce qui s, y rapporte est artificiel de A a Z ....Rien a voir avec la Thailande... Meme les Thais eux meme qui sont nombreux a y tavailler et qui y trouvent leur compte bien sur n, est qu, une immense mise en scene pour attirer les touristes ....Eux, meme le disent quand ils reviennent dans leur villages et racontent ....Les plus courageux parlent rapidement de la pegre sans s, ettendre sur le sujet ..
Oui PATTAYA c, est bien pour les gens du style Pimilan et d, autres encore, et ca vous regarde, mais ne venez pas nous faire la PUB d, une ville que nous connaissons TRES BIEN...et on peut vous en apprendre certainement, , , !!!!
La 3eme mi -temps c, est mieux 😉
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Je serai curieux de savoir ce que je pourrai apprendre, j'espère des choses plus vraies que de me dire que chaque cm2 de Pattaya est controlé par la mafia... Moi je suis aussi allé en Isaan et je n'est pas vue de grande différence avec la région de petchabun que je connais pas mal, ce que je reproche à beaucoup c'est de parler de Pattaya comme s'il la connaissait bien alors que certains n'y ont jamais mis les pieds, poupette entre autre, d'autres y sont allés quelques jours ou bien dans ton cas il y a longtemps...Quand à me faire croire à l'authentique en isaan en vivant avec des gros moyens je suis très perplexe, passer des heures par jour devant son ordi quand on est en Isaan est une exemple de vie authentique ?
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Comme l'écrit Voyageurasie..
qui s'y frotte s'y pique;
On est quelques'uns ici à ne pas aimer Pattaya et tout ce qui concerne cette ville.
Autre "exemple": je n'aime pas Paris peut-être parce que j'y vis et travaille, mais je suis bien obligé de faire avec.
Pas me plaindre non plus trop, il y a un paquet de banlieusards qui aimeraient bien y vivre ne serait-ce que pour passer moins de temps dans les transports en commun ou dans leurs zotos. Moi je mets 15 minutes en vélo pour aller au turf!
Et c'est vrai, pour plein de trucs, c'est mieux d'être à Paris qu'à Pétaouchnok; n'empèche que je n'aime pas Paris ni Bangkok ni Pékin ni toutes les grandes villes où j'ai déjà mis les pieds sauf Hanoi (je ne les cite pas toutes, il y en a un tas).
Bonben on va pas en faire un fromage;
Pattaya n'est pas la Thailande
et
Paris n'est pas la France 🙂
"On a toujours quelqu'un au dessus de soi; par-delà Dieu même s'élève le Néant" Cioran
Pimilan!!!!!!!!!!, moi Pattaya je connais tres bien, alors je sais de quoi je parle j, y suis reste assez lontemps dans ce merdier pour pouvoir te dire et t, expliquer chaque m2 ...
De plus, quand tu oses comparer Pattaya a Phuket je me marre... Phuket c, est encore beau et meme tres beau ...Et au moins il y a une culture propre a cette ile (ou presqu, ile).ainsi qu, une histoire et une ame ......... Ici au moins c, est la Thailande et on ne vit pas au rabais ..
Quand a la vie authentique en I-ssan personne ne revendique rien, ni te raconter ma vie mais j, avoue que maintenant je prefererais vivre dans n, importe quel trou a RAT en Thailande qu, a Pattaya ...
Quand tu parles vivre avec de gros moyens sans connaitre les gens, , , , faudrait un peu se calmer mon cher, tu t, egares et tu specules sur les gens !!! Tu parles sans savoir et comme dit coluche ...
C, est bien domage que tu ne connaisses pas lI-ssan ou peut etre tant mieux pour tout le monde ..😎.
En tout les cas en ce qui me concerne avec toi le debat est clos ...
Bye😛 NTT😏
De plus, quand tu oses comparer Pattaya a Phuket je me marre... Phuket c, est encore beau et meme tres beau ...Et au moins il y a une culture propre a cette ile (ou presqu, ile).ainsi qu, une histoire et une ame ......... Ici au moins c, est la Thailande et on ne vit pas au rabais ..
Quand a la vie authentique en I-ssan personne ne revendique rien, ni te raconter ma vie mais j, avoue que maintenant je prefererais vivre dans n, importe quel trou a RAT en Thailande qu, a Pattaya ...
Quand tu parles vivre avec de gros moyens sans connaitre les gens, , , , faudrait un peu se calmer mon cher, tu t, egares et tu specules sur les gens !!! Tu parles sans savoir et comme dit coluche ...
C, est bien domage que tu ne connaisses pas lI-ssan ou peut etre tant mieux pour tout le monde ..😎.
En tout les cas en ce qui me concerne avec toi le debat est clos ...
Bye😛 NTT😏
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
De plus, quand tu oses comparer Pattaya a Phuket je me marre... Phuket c, est encore beau et meme tres beau ...Et au moins il y a une culture propre a cette ile (ou presqu, ile).ainsi qu, une histoire et une ame .........
Ici au moins c, est la Thailande et on ne vit pas au rabais ..
Là tu m'enlèves un doute pour la bonne raison après douze ans de Thaïlande je ne suis jamais aller à Pattaya car d'après tout les posts de Pimilan sur cette ville balnéaire et ses plages c'est plus que beau . A Phuket à part Patong comme tu dis c'est très beau et il y a une histoire et aussi une âme qui bien sur faut connaître les petits coins superbe .
Là tu m'enlèves un doute pour la bonne raison après douze ans de Thaïlande je ne suis jamais aller à Pattaya car d'après tout les posts de Pimilan sur cette ville balnéaire et ses plages c'est plus que beau . A Phuket à part Patong comme tu dis c'est très beau et il y a une histoire et aussi une âme qui bien sur faut connaître les petits coins superbe .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Je veux bien que le débat soit clos, mais dire que l'on y a habiter longtemps et ne pas dire ce que l'on y a fait à Pattaya ce n'est pas clair du tout...En tout cas sans réponse on peut penser à tout...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Surement qu, avec le petit esprit TORDU comme le tien on peut penser a tout sauf a ce qui est ....
De vrais propos malsains de ta part ..tu es vraiment le reflet de la ville que tu defends ....
Debat reclos !!!!!!!!😠 Definitivement avec toi et sur pattaya!! je pense que les forumistes voudraient connaitre plus la Thailande que des lieux artificiels sans ame, sans culture et sans historique et sans rien ..du surfait a la mesure de la demande ...
Salut !!😏
De vrais propos malsains de ta part ..tu es vraiment le reflet de la ville que tu defends ....
Debat reclos !!!!!!!!😠 Definitivement avec toi et sur pattaya!! je pense que les forumistes voudraient connaitre plus la Thailande que des lieux artificiels sans ame, sans culture et sans historique et sans rien ..du surfait a la mesure de la demande ...
Salut !!😏
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
Je pense que certains forumistes veulent connaitre plus de la Thailande mais pas tous, à voir le nombre de demande que j'ai en MP pour avoir des bons hotels restos etc sur Pattaya...il en faut pour tout le monde et chacun a des idées différentes du tourisme sur ce forum ou d'autres, vouloir "faire le ménage" ou ne parler de ce qui est considéré comme "bien" par certains est illusoire. Mais effectivement dire d'avoir vécu dans un endroit sans révéler ce qu'on y a fait c'est une preuve que l'on assume pas...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
bonjour je te fais un copier/coller de mon site http://tintina.com voyage 2003 2004 janvier 2004
PATTAYA a premiere vue cela resemble a PHUKET. J’avais dis que je n’y mettrais pas les pieds comme quoi il n’y a que les cons qui ne changent pas d’avis. Pourquoi PATTAYA pour 2 raisons, la premiere ce n’est pas loin de BANGKOK et mon retour sur paris approche a grand pas. La deuxieme les thai aiment PATTAYA et Yo souhaitait y aller. Les thai ne pensent pas comme nous ils sont a 200 % de tolerance.
J’ai decouvert PATTAYA avec un autre regard que ce que j’avais pu lire ou entendre. Pour te donner une image c’est comme si a paris on ne parlait que de PIGALE. J’ai visite des temples, les plages, les resto thai avec la musique thai que j’adore. Yo a un couple de potes lui est autrichien Roman, elle thai Pairin. Nous passerons des tres bons moments ensemble.
Avec Yo nous sommes alles dans une ile paradisiaque, nous avons fais du parachute ascensionnelle, Yo passe le 1er je le regarde faire car nous partons d’une plate-forme du bateau, il faut courir 3 petits pas et hop, l’arrivee en douceur 2 petits pas. Bon je me dis fastoche, mon depart, je me suis empêtre les pieds et je me suis vautree dans l’eau. Quand a l’arrivee j’ai rate les 2 petits pas je suis rentree dans le mec, je l’ai retrouve en dessous de moi il ne pouvait plus respirer. A part cela les paysages sont fabuleux avec la mer emeraude.
Ensuite jet ski je monte derriere Yo impeccable saut dans les vagues tout va bien cela se gate a l’arrivee j’ai rate la sortie et je me suis vautree dans l’eau de 50 cm en arriere dans le gilet de sauvetage 10 fois trop petit pour moi avec mon gros ventre qui ressortait de l’eau j’etais morte de rire.
Pour finir nage et nage dans cette eau limpide et chaude.
Un soir nous sommes alles dans une discotheque ou il y avait la STAR du rock thai M.MORISON. QUELLE AMBIANCE. J’ai mange des abeilles grillees.
J’ai visite : - temple chinois - bouddha geant dessine a l’or sur une montagne - art very strong regarde photo
PATTAYA a premiere vue cela resemble a PHUKET. J’avais dis que je n’y mettrais pas les pieds comme quoi il n’y a que les cons qui ne changent pas d’avis. Pourquoi PATTAYA pour 2 raisons, la premiere ce n’est pas loin de BANGKOK et mon retour sur paris approche a grand pas. La deuxieme les thai aiment PATTAYA et Yo souhaitait y aller. Les thai ne pensent pas comme nous ils sont a 200 % de tolerance.
J’ai decouvert PATTAYA avec un autre regard que ce que j’avais pu lire ou entendre. Pour te donner une image c’est comme si a paris on ne parlait que de PIGALE. J’ai visite des temples, les plages, les resto thai avec la musique thai que j’adore. Yo a un couple de potes lui est autrichien Roman, elle thai Pairin. Nous passerons des tres bons moments ensemble.
Avec Yo nous sommes alles dans une ile paradisiaque, nous avons fais du parachute ascensionnelle, Yo passe le 1er je le regarde faire car nous partons d’une plate-forme du bateau, il faut courir 3 petits pas et hop, l’arrivee en douceur 2 petits pas. Bon je me dis fastoche, mon depart, je me suis empêtre les pieds et je me suis vautree dans l’eau. Quand a l’arrivee j’ai rate les 2 petits pas je suis rentree dans le mec, je l’ai retrouve en dessous de moi il ne pouvait plus respirer. A part cela les paysages sont fabuleux avec la mer emeraude.
Ensuite jet ski je monte derriere Yo impeccable saut dans les vagues tout va bien cela se gate a l’arrivee j’ai rate la sortie et je me suis vautree dans l’eau de 50 cm en arriere dans le gilet de sauvetage 10 fois trop petit pour moi avec mon gros ventre qui ressortait de l’eau j’etais morte de rire.
Pour finir nage et nage dans cette eau limpide et chaude.
Un soir nous sommes alles dans une discotheque ou il y avait la STAR du rock thai M.MORISON. QUELLE AMBIANCE. J’ai mange des abeilles grillees.
J’ai visite : - temple chinois - bouddha geant dessine a l’or sur une montagne - art very strong regarde photo
que la puissance de la jungle soit avec toi
Mon site http://tintina.com
tu prends un bateau tu vas ds les iles l'eau et les plages sont tres jolies
amicalment
tintina
que la puissance de la jungle soit avec toi
Mon site http://tintina.com
les plages sont sales et les eaux deg...
les courants marins amenent les eaux du port industriel de Laem Chabang dans la baie de Pattaya. De plus si vous longez la Beach Road direction Sud vous allez arriver -avant le pietonnier- a une jetee. A cote un grand batiment. Il contient les pompes des egouts de la ville et de la un gros tuyaux les deversent dans la baie. Tuyau visible a marree basse. Bordel city en ville, bordel marin dans l eau
les courants marins amenent les eaux du port industriel de Laem Chabang dans la baie de Pattaya. De plus si vous longez la Beach Road direction Sud vous allez arriver -avant le pietonnier- a une jetee. A cote un grand batiment. Il contient les pompes des egouts de la ville et de la un gros tuyaux les deversent dans la baie. Tuyau visible a marree basse. Bordel city en ville, bordel marin dans l eau
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Je n ai pas trouvé d infos récentes sur Kuching
Est ce quelqu un peut recommander un hotel ou une guesthouse à moins de 100 RM bien et pas cher? pas de dortoir merci
Est ce qu en novembre il pleut beaucoup et aller à Semenggoh ou Bako vaut le coup ou pas?
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.














