Thaïlande, un pays qui manque d'écologie
by Eyestoeyes
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
je sais que je vais pas forcement me faire des amis en lançant ce sujet...
C'est la 2ème fois que je reviens de Thaïlande, et à l'issu de ce second voyage, j'ai remarqué que ce pays n'est pas très écolo...
Certes les villes sont propres balayées, mais pour m'être éloignée des sentiers touristiques, j'ai vu beaucoup d'amas de poubelles partout dans la nature, les détritus jetés à même la campagne...et cela gâche le paysage.
C'est peut être le résultat de nos déchets de touristes qui veut ça, mais je pense que la Thaïlande comme tous ces pays émergents n'a pas su réfléchir à un développement écolo de leur pays...ils font les mêmes erreurs que nous.
A nous touristes de refuser tout emballage supplémentaire, lorsque par exemple au seven eleven, le vendeur vous met dans un sac plastique l'unique article acheté. Pour eux c'est un réflexe, mais ayons celui de refuser ce sac plastique qui finira dans la nature. Préservons ce beau pays avant qu'il ne soit trop tard...
bonjour la thailande n'est pas encore dans sa période ecolo ........ elle est comme fut la France dans les anees 80 90 ...... il faut lui donner du temps .
cela ne veut pas dire que il faut rien faire ...... et ton petit geste seven est bien vu
non seulement pour la planète mais pour le portefeuille du seven .......15;000 bt par mois 🤪😛
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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En même temps y aller en bateau, c'est compliqué...j'y serais bien allée à dos d'âne mais le temps me manquait...de plus je ne pars pas chaque année...la dernière fois c'était il y a 6 ans. Aussi je ne prends pas souvent de vacances, étant intérimaire et le plus souvent je prends les transports en commun...je passe mon temps à travailler...est ce assez légitime pour toi, que cette constatation sur l'écologie....puis petit détail au quotidien je précise que je trie mes déchets, je composte, aucun aliment n'est jeté à la poubelle...et quand je vais chercher le pain à la boulangerie d'à coté, je prends mon vélo...
Bonjour Celyn
Je rejoins Thuan, il faut donner le temps au temps, et continuer à agir, comme tu le fais judicieusement remarquer. Ce sera toujours plus utile que certains commentaires.
Je rejoins Thuan, il faut donner le temps au temps, et continuer à agir, comme tu le fais judicieusement remarquer. Ce sera toujours plus utile que certains commentaires.
Je parlais du seven eleven (qui n'est pas forcement un bon exemple, je conçois) comme j'aurais pu parler des marchands de rue...Les thais vous emballent tout article acheté, à nous de refuser le sac plastique...de leur soumettre l'idée de faire attention...mais bon j'espère qu'ils en viendront assez vite à cette idée...je dirais même que ça devient urgent!
pas le soucis majeur les quelques dechets qui trainent, c'est sourtout les rejets industrielle qui poluent le plus... la thailande est encore emergent, une grosse expension dans tout les secteurs l'infrastructure publique est a la traine..
mais ca commence a bouger gentiment les eccolo tha
c'est pas arriver en un jour en europe... et la majoriter des pays dit evoluer ont bien des efforts a faire pour etre propre....
c'est pas arriver en un jour en europe... et la majoriter des pays dit evoluer ont bien des efforts a faire pour etre propre....
Je pige pas à qui tu réponds. Perso, le coup du sac au Seven est une bonne idée pour moi.
Et il n'y pas de mauvaise idée pour faire avancer le schmilblick (à part le commentaire où tu t'es senti obligé de te justifier et qui a gaspillé de l'énergie pour rien).
Bonjour, la Thaîlande est écologique comme tous les autres pays du monde : quand ça l'arrange.
Le plastique et la gestion des déchets sont catastrophiques en Thaïlande. Les piles sont jetées à même le sol et de nombreux enfants peuvent les récupérer et les mettre dans la bouche sans aucun problème. En campagne ils sont peu à se soucier à la dangerosité du plastique brulé. Les camions surchargés sont de gros pollueurs. Quant au riz il est devenu un grand enjeu et les producteurs privilégie un seul et unique riz pouvant être récolté deux fois dans l'année au détriment de la diversité des variétés.
En dehors de cela la Thaïlande possède de nombreux parcs nationaux où, même s'il y a de nombreux progrès à faire, la faune et la flore sont un peu préservé pour les touristes.
Quant à dire que c'est aux touristes de montrer l'exemple, il faudrait que leur pays soit exemplaire en la matière pour que les Thaïs y croient et ce n'est certainement pas le cas. La cause écologique n'est pas du ressort du touriste et ne se prêche pas au Seven eleven du coin, avec le farang marrant ou colérique du coin. Elle est autrement bien plus importante que cela et mériterait un vrai programme éducatif dans les écoles et dans les temples de Thaïlande.
Le plastique et la gestion des déchets sont catastrophiques en Thaïlande. Les piles sont jetées à même le sol et de nombreux enfants peuvent les récupérer et les mettre dans la bouche sans aucun problème. En campagne ils sont peu à se soucier à la dangerosité du plastique brulé. Les camions surchargés sont de gros pollueurs. Quant au riz il est devenu un grand enjeu et les producteurs privilégie un seul et unique riz pouvant être récolté deux fois dans l'année au détriment de la diversité des variétés.
En dehors de cela la Thaïlande possède de nombreux parcs nationaux où, même s'il y a de nombreux progrès à faire, la faune et la flore sont un peu préservé pour les touristes.
Quant à dire que c'est aux touristes de montrer l'exemple, il faudrait que leur pays soit exemplaire en la matière pour que les Thaïs y croient et ce n'est certainement pas le cas. La cause écologique n'est pas du ressort du touriste et ne se prêche pas au Seven eleven du coin, avec le farang marrant ou colérique du coin. Elle est autrement bien plus importante que cela et mériterait un vrai programme éducatif dans les écoles et dans les temples de Thaïlande.
Excuses-moi Pierre, mais il ne faut pas déformer les choses.
Je suis d'accord sur le fait que tout le monde il est pas beau et que c'est pas mieux qu'ailleurs, etc
Si c'est partout pareil, c'est donc la responsabilité de tout le monde. Et je considère qu'il faut montrer l'exemple ou faire ce que l'on peut.
Si c'est partout pareil, c'est donc la responsabilité de tout le monde. Et je considère qu'il faut montrer l'exemple ou faire ce que l'on peut.
Excuses-moi Pierre, mais il ne faut pas déformer les choses.
Je suis d'accord sur le fait que tout le monde il est pas beau et que c'est pas mieux qu'ailleurs, etc
Si c'est partout pareil, c'est donc la responsabilité de tout le monde. Et je considère qu'il faut montrer l'exemple ou faire ce que l'on peut.
C'est exactement ça!!🙂
Si c'est partout pareil, c'est donc la responsabilité de tout le monde. Et je considère qu'il faut montrer l'exemple ou faire ce que l'on peut.
C'est exactement ça!!🙂
Je pige pas à qui tu réponds. Perso, le coup du sac au Seven est une bonne idée pour moi.
Et il n'y pas de mauvaise idée pour faire avancer le schmilblick (à part le commentaire où tu t'es senti obligé de te justifier et qui a gaspillé de l'énergie pour rien).
Je devais justifier mon avis dans le sens où certains donnent des leçons de morale alors qu'eux même n'appliquent pas ces mêmes leçons. Je ne me serais pas permise de relever ce détail sur la Thailande si moi même je ne suis pas sensible au respect de la nature. Aussi, je répondais à la personne qui me disait que de prendre l'avion n'est pas plus écologique...et ce n'est pas faux....
Je devais justifier mon avis dans le sens où certains donnent des leçons de morale alors qu'eux même n'appliquent pas ces mêmes leçons. Je ne me serais pas permise de relever ce détail sur la Thailande si moi même je ne suis pas sensible au respect de la nature. Aussi, je répondais à la personne qui me disait que de prendre l'avion n'est pas plus écologique...et ce n'est pas faux....
à nous de refuser le sac plastique...de leur soumettre l'idée de faire attention...mais bon j'espère qu'ils en viendront assez vite à cette idée..
certains client le font ..😉😉......... ne crois pas que l'écologie est une exclusivité farangs seulement il faut du temps ........... qui refusait dans les anees 80 u sac plastique dans un supermarché en France .
certains client le font ..😉😉......... ne crois pas que l'écologie est une exclusivité farangs seulement il faut du temps ........... qui refusait dans les anees 80 u sac plastique dans un supermarché en France .
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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mériterait un vrai programme éducatif dans les écoles
Il est en place.
Dans les CC style Plaza tu a les poubelles sélectives avec icones explicatives Le plus dur c'est avec les adultes qui étaient habitués aux emballages bio dégradables: La feuille de bananier Dur de faire changer les habitudes
La cause écologique n'est pas du ressort du touriste
Et le boulet: La corruption: http://youtu.be/4gdE68D4VQs
Il est en place.
Dans les CC style Plaza tu a les poubelles sélectives avec icones explicatives Le plus dur c'est avec les adultes qui étaient habitués aux emballages bio dégradables: La feuille de bananier Dur de faire changer les habitudes
La cause écologique n'est pas du ressort du touriste
Et le boulet: La corruption: http://youtu.be/4gdE68D4VQs
mériterait un vrai programme éducatif dans les écoles
Il est en place.
Ils ont une journee croix rouge henry dunand, ou ils aident , font aussi des activiters d'interet public dont ramasser les sac plastic , emballage au abors de leurs village, en plus de la sensibilisation en cours
Il est en place.
Ils ont une journee croix rouge henry dunand, ou ils aident , font aussi des activiters d'interet public dont ramasser les sac plastic , emballage au abors de leurs village, en plus de la sensibilisation en cours
Si tu dois montrer l'exemple, il faudrait peut-être le montrer d'abord chez soi avant de vouloir l'imposer chez les autres.
C'était l'un des sens de ma réponse.
Je me vois mal expliquer à un ami thaï que moi (qui utilise la clim de l'électricité, de l'essence, du papier aux toilettes) je suis plus soucieux que lui (qui part tous les matins chasser un serpent dans les rizières pour le manger à midi) de l'écologie parce que je ne prends pas un sac plastique au seven eleven du coin.
Je crois qu'en matière d'écologie, les Français n'ont en aucun cas le droit de donner des leçons (même si elles sont justifiées) ; qui plus est dans un pays qui n'est pas le leur. Pour montrer l'exemple je pense que la France l'a suffisament montrer ses 80 dernières années (essais nucléaires, Rainbow Warrior...), pour dire qu'il faut savoir fermer sa gueule.
Ceci dit je crois que les Thaïs ont raison de s'occuper de ce problème avec un programme éducatif, même si comme dans tous les pays, l'écologie s'arrêtera dès que le moindre profit sera en vue.
Je crois qu'en matière d'écologie, les Français n'ont en aucun cas le droit de donner des leçons (même si elles sont justifiées) ; qui plus est dans un pays qui n'est pas le leur. Pour montrer l'exemple je pense que la France l'a suffisament montrer ses 80 dernières années (essais nucléaires, Rainbow Warrior...), pour dire qu'il faut savoir fermer sa gueule.
Ceci dit je crois que les Thaïs ont raison de s'occuper de ce problème avec un programme éducatif, même si comme dans tous les pays, l'écologie s'arrêtera dès que le moindre profit sera en vue.
Qui parle d'imposer quoique ce soit ? à qui que ce soit ?
Apparemment, nous avons la même sensibilité d'après les exemples que tu évoques.
Par contre, je ne partage pas le 'fermer sa gueule'.
Bonsoir,
Ce constat est valable pour tous les pays émergents.
La présence de sacs plastiques ou autres emballage est une pollution visible qui dérange le paysage, mais plus grave est la pollution par les brûlis divers, épandages de chimies diverses et variées, absence de stations d'épuration etc. ...
Le plastique et le carton ne sont qu'un détail insignifiant en terme de santé publique.
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
+1
Avec une pensée émue à Monsanto qui empoisonne le monde en douceur et, profondeur.
Avec une pensée émue à Monsanto qui empoisonne le monde en douceur et, profondeur.
Avec une pensée émue à Monsanto qui empoisonne le monde en douceur et, profondeur.
Sawadee, Le seul émoi que je ressent en pensant à Monsando, c'est la colère
Sawadee, Le seul émoi que je ressent en pensant à Monsando, c'est la colère
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
Bonjour.
J'étais en Thailande il y a quelques semaines et c'est incroyable les progres que les mentalités y ont fait, si l'on compare avec la Thailande d'il y a 10 ans les Thai ont vraiment appris à faire attention. A mon retour en Indonésie j'ai vu la différence. C'est un proces injuste que tu fait à ce pays qui est quand meme vraiment sur la bonne voie meme si les politiques publiques de gestion des déchets sont manifestement pas encore au top.
Apres l'empoisonnement de la planète par l'industrie chimique c'est un vaste débat qui ne s'arrète pas aux frontières🏴☠️
Il y a trois sortes d’hommes : les vivants,
les morts, et ceux qui vont sur la mer.
Aristote (parait il)
Salut Celyn,
En lien une petite video récente qui rejoint le sujet abordé. C'est cadeau ! Si vous ne voulez pas de sacs plastiques dans les commerces, suivez les conseils de JC, fin connaisseur de la Thaïlande, dites-le en Thaï "Mai ao thung" et vous aurez surement droit à un sourire 😏.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rnWeejBhyM
En passant, je ne saurais trop vous conseiller de vous abonner comme moi aux videos de JC sur Youtube, c'est un must!
En lien une petite video récente qui rejoint le sujet abordé. C'est cadeau ! Si vous ne voulez pas de sacs plastiques dans les commerces, suivez les conseils de JC, fin connaisseur de la Thaïlande, dites-le en Thaï "Mai ao thung" et vous aurez surement droit à un sourire 😏.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rnWeejBhyM
En passant, je ne saurais trop vous conseiller de vous abonner comme moi aux videos de JC sur Youtube, c'est un must!
La majoriter des grandes surfaces vendent des sacs tissu pour remplacer les plastic me semble 60 bahts piece a lotus
D'ailleurs j'en avais parler sur un autre post , les caissiere de lotus me doublaient les points , fin du moi quelques bons en plus ca rembourse les sacs hehe)
Seven plus dur rarement de sac sur moi ou ma moto ( sans coffre)
D'ailleurs j'en avais parler sur un autre post , les caissiere de lotus me doublaient les points , fin du moi quelques bons en plus ca rembourse les sacs hehe)
Seven plus dur rarement de sac sur moi ou ma moto ( sans coffre)
C'est un proces injuste que tu fait à ce pays
Je ne fais de procès à personne, ni de leçon de morale...sur mon message d'origine je dis bien qu'ils font les mêmes erreurs que nous. Je reconnais aussi que nous n'avons pas été ni français ni autre, un exemple dans le passé et cette conscience de l'environnement n'est apparu que récemment. L'expérience ne fait pas de nous des êtres meilleurs mais ne pas la partager ...ce serait égoïste...
Je ne fais de procès à personne, ni de leçon de morale...sur mon message d'origine je dis bien qu'ils font les mêmes erreurs que nous. Je reconnais aussi que nous n'avons pas été ni français ni autre, un exemple dans le passé et cette conscience de l'environnement n'est apparu que récemment. L'expérience ne fait pas de nous des êtres meilleurs mais ne pas la partager ...ce serait égoïste...
Si vous ne voulez pas de sacs plastiques dans les commerces, suivez les conseils de JC
Sawadee krap
C’est bien, mais les sacs plastiques sont l’arbre qui cache la forêt : Les emballages plastiques pour les boissons, glaces, ect. Là c’est les chaînes de distributions qu’i faut éduquer, dur les lobbys (*)
Par rapport au tire du fil : un pays qui manque d'écologie. Il y a en Thaïlande, d’autres prises de conscience tout aussi importantes :
Pour revenir sur notre+ grand pollueur mondial : 25 Mai : Thaïlande et monde : March Against Monsanto ( effrayant le reportage) http://voyageurasie-soleillevant.blogspot.com/2013/05/25-mai-thailande-et-monde-march-against.html
La journée sans voiture » de Bangkok aura lieu ce 22 septembre http://pattayathailande.com/la-journee-sans-voiture-de-bangkok-aura-lieu-ce-22-septembre/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Pattayathailande+%28PattayaTha%C3%AFlande%29
(*) Lutte contre la corruption, c’était hier http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2013/09/06/photos-hundreds-demonstrate-against-graft-anti-corruption-day
Sawadee krap
C’est bien, mais les sacs plastiques sont l’arbre qui cache la forêt : Les emballages plastiques pour les boissons, glaces, ect. Là c’est les chaînes de distributions qu’i faut éduquer, dur les lobbys (*)
Par rapport au tire du fil : un pays qui manque d'écologie. Il y a en Thaïlande, d’autres prises de conscience tout aussi importantes :
Pour revenir sur notre+ grand pollueur mondial : 25 Mai : Thaïlande et monde : March Against Monsanto ( effrayant le reportage) http://voyageurasie-soleillevant.blogspot.com/2013/05/25-mai-thailande-et-monde-march-against.html
La journée sans voiture » de Bangkok aura lieu ce 22 septembre http://pattayathailande.com/la-journee-sans-voiture-de-bangkok-aura-lieu-ce-22-septembre/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Pattayathailande+%28PattayaTha%C3%AFlande%29
(*) Lutte contre la corruption, c’était hier http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2013/09/06/photos-hundreds-demonstrate-against-graft-anti-corruption-day
activiters d'interet public dont ramasser les sac plastic , emballage au abors de leurs village, en plus de la sensibilisation en cours
Belle initiative
La Green Pattaya Community vous demande un coup de main samedi prochain (14 septembre 2013) pour nettoyer la plage. Afin d’éviter aux enfants et aux animaux de prendre des sacs en plastique ou des capsules en métal pour de la nourriture, vous êtes invité à passer l’après-midi à bronzer tout en vous rendant utile ! Les organisateurs ont prévu des rafraîchissements et des en-cas pour les volontaires. http://pattayathailande.com/nettoyage-de-plage-a-pattaya/
Belle initiative
La Green Pattaya Community vous demande un coup de main samedi prochain (14 septembre 2013) pour nettoyer la plage. Afin d’éviter aux enfants et aux animaux de prendre des sacs en plastique ou des capsules en métal pour de la nourriture, vous êtes invité à passer l’après-midi à bronzer tout en vous rendant utile ! Les organisateurs ont prévu des rafraîchissements et des en-cas pour les volontaires. http://pattayathailande.com/nettoyage-de-plage-a-pattaya/
Je reconnais aussi que nous n'avons pas été ni français ni autre, un exemple dans le passé
C'est là où je suis pas vraiment d'accord. La France au niveau Européen reste certainement le pire en matière d'écologie (et pas qu'au niveau du passé), et pourtant ses concitoyens sont parmis les premiers à donner des leçons.
et cette conscience de l'environnement n'est apparu que récemment.
En matière d'écologie, la France exporte le nucléaire un peu partout dans le monde et l'une des dernières grosses catastrophe écologique, qui continue d'ailleurs de polluer l'océan pacifique, est dû au nucléaire. De quelle conscience environnementale parlez-vous ? La France a pris un retard considérable en matière d'énergie renouvelable. Même la Chine, qui n'est pourtant pas à citer en exemple, entreprend beaucoup plus de choses au niveau écologique que la France et son lobby nucléaire.
L'expérience ne fait pas de nous des êtres meilleurs mais ne pas la partager ...ce serait égoïste...
Non les Français ne sont pas les meilleurs mais parmi les pires. Quant à partager notre nucléaire, malheureusement le jour où une fuite se produira nos voisins allemands qui eux peuvent nous donner des leçons en matière d'écologie, partageront nos méfaits. Les Français qui veulent réellement agir pour l'écologie ils n'ont qu'à agir avant tout dans leur propre pays et ne pas chercher une quelconque rédemption en ne prenant pas de sac plastique lors de leur vacance à l'autre bout du monde.
C'est là où je suis pas vraiment d'accord. La France au niveau Européen reste certainement le pire en matière d'écologie (et pas qu'au niveau du passé), et pourtant ses concitoyens sont parmis les premiers à donner des leçons.
et cette conscience de l'environnement n'est apparu que récemment.
En matière d'écologie, la France exporte le nucléaire un peu partout dans le monde et l'une des dernières grosses catastrophe écologique, qui continue d'ailleurs de polluer l'océan pacifique, est dû au nucléaire. De quelle conscience environnementale parlez-vous ? La France a pris un retard considérable en matière d'énergie renouvelable. Même la Chine, qui n'est pourtant pas à citer en exemple, entreprend beaucoup plus de choses au niveau écologique que la France et son lobby nucléaire.
L'expérience ne fait pas de nous des êtres meilleurs mais ne pas la partager ...ce serait égoïste...
Non les Français ne sont pas les meilleurs mais parmi les pires. Quant à partager notre nucléaire, malheureusement le jour où une fuite se produira nos voisins allemands qui eux peuvent nous donner des leçons en matière d'écologie, partageront nos méfaits. Les Français qui veulent réellement agir pour l'écologie ils n'ont qu'à agir avant tout dans leur propre pays et ne pas chercher une quelconque rédemption en ne prenant pas de sac plastique lors de leur vacance à l'autre bout du monde.
+1
Avec une pensée émue à Monsanto qui empoisonne le monde en douceur et, profondeur.
Quand je suis né on était 3 milliards sur terre. Aujourd'hui 7 Milliards, dans 50 ans 15 milliards...
Mais c'est bien connu, l'industriel a la pointe de la technologie pour nourrir plus de monde a moindre prix est un empoisonneur. Le Tokara il va nous expliquer comment on fait avec toutes ces nouvelles bouches affamées qui n'acceptent pas l'excuse de mauvaise récolte.
Décidément ce forum Thaïlande devient aussi médiocre que la conversation du Balto. Tout cela a cause de quelques uns...
Avec une pensée émue à Monsanto qui empoisonne le monde en douceur et, profondeur.
Quand je suis né on était 3 milliards sur terre. Aujourd'hui 7 Milliards, dans 50 ans 15 milliards...
Mais c'est bien connu, l'industriel a la pointe de la technologie pour nourrir plus de monde a moindre prix est un empoisonneur. Le Tokara il va nous expliquer comment on fait avec toutes ces nouvelles bouches affamées qui n'acceptent pas l'excuse de mauvaise récolte.
Décidément ce forum Thaïlande devient aussi médiocre que la conversation du Balto. Tout cela a cause de quelques uns...
Il n'y a pas d'ennemi, seulement parfois de bonnes bouffées de haine...
( JR)
Avec une pensée émue à Monsanto qui empoisonne le monde en douceur et, profondeur.
Sawadee, Le seul émoi que je ressent en pensant à Monsando, c'est la colère
Si tu te sens le courage (moi je renonce) Il faudrait que tu développes pour le monsieur ci-dessus, Car apparemment il fait une fixette sur Obeo 😏
Sawadee, Le seul émoi que je ressent en pensant à Monsando, c'est la colère
Si tu te sens le courage (moi je renonce) Il faudrait que tu développes pour le monsieur ci-dessus, Car apparemment il fait une fixette sur Obeo 😏
je sais que je vais pas forcement me faire des amis en lançant ce sujet...
T’inquiète, on ne peut pas plaire à tout le monde 😏
T’inquiète, on ne peut pas plaire à tout le monde 😏
... comment on fait avec toutes ces nouvelles bouches affamées qui n'acceptent pas l'excuse de mauvaise récolte...
On leur vends les stocks de riz Thaïlandais 😇 OK -->
On leur vends les stocks de riz Thaïlandais 😇 OK -->
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
l'industriel a la pointe de la technologie pour nourrir plus de monde a moindre prix est un empoisonneur.
Oui Monsanto est effectivement un empoisonneur. Non pas pour les démocraties occidentales mais en Corée du Sud ils viennent d'être condamnés pour l'utilisation de l'agent Orange au Vietnam. En clair la justice de ce pays déclare que Monsanto savait, à l'époque, que l'exposition à la dioxine de l'agent orange était fortement cancérogène. Alors s'il n'y a qu'eux pour sauver le monde, on est dans de beaux draps.
Oui Monsanto est effectivement un empoisonneur. Non pas pour les démocraties occidentales mais en Corée du Sud ils viennent d'être condamnés pour l'utilisation de l'agent Orange au Vietnam. En clair la justice de ce pays déclare que Monsanto savait, à l'époque, que l'exposition à la dioxine de l'agent orange était fortement cancérogène. Alors s'il n'y a qu'eux pour sauver le monde, on est dans de beaux draps.
intéressant postulat que de dire que la motivation première de l'industriel est de"nourrir plus de monde a moindre prix".
On est effectivement au niveau de la conversation du Balto, arguments à l'emporte pièce qu'on imagine définitifs avec attaques personelles contre ceux qui émettent un avis différent.
Il y a trois sortes d’hommes : les vivants,
les morts, et ceux qui vont sur la mer.
Aristote (parait il)
Mdr l'occidental qui vend donner des leçons d'écologie. Comparez votre mode de vie à celle d'un Thai déja. Et celui qui vient se concentrer dans les zones touristiques en consommant 3X plus c'est qui? Et puis, confondre écologie et sac plastique jeté, bonjour les raccourcis.
Mdr l'occidental qui vend donner des leçons d'écologie. Comparez votre mode de vie à celle d'un Thai déja. Et celui qui vient se concentrer dans les zones touristiques en consommant 3X plus c'est qui? Et puis, confondre écologie et sac plastique jeté, bonjour les raccourcis.
+1 bonne reflection d'autant plus que l’étranger est plus au courant .
+1 bonne reflection d'autant plus que l’étranger est plus au courant .
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Les Français qui veulent réellement agir pour l'écologie ils n'ont qu'à agir avant tout dans leur propre pays et ne pas chercher une quelconque rédemption en ne prenant pas de sac plastique lors de leur vacance à l'autre bout du monde.
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Bien dit Pierre,
Je sais qu’on peut voir une valeur de symbole dans le refus des sacs en plastique, mais je me méfie des gens qui se réfugient moralement derrière ces petits gestes, croyant être « du bon côté », qui ignorent tout des pays qu’ils visitent, et qui de surcroît feraient bien de commencer par balayer devant leur propre ( !!! 😉) porte.
(Je suis conscient, disant cela, de poser les pieds au milieu d’un véritable champ de mines, cette discussion !) 😮
Pour en revenir à la Thaïlande, mon impression personnelle est que c’est un tissu de contradictions (mais quel pays ne l’est pas ?).
Entre autres, sur la propreté. Les gens sont d’une propreté corporelle irréprochable (et ne se privent pas de trouver beaucoup d’étrangers franchement cradingues, mal lavés et ne « humant » pas très frais ….. y compris certains qui viennent donner des leçons). Ils sont aussi capables de se donner à fond au nettoyage de ce qu’on leur donne à nettoyer. Par contre, il est vrai que l’environnement est loin d’être nickel. Je vois presque tous les jours les rats et les cafards courir sur les trottoirs. Je frémis à l’idée d’une pandémie latente, jusqu’ici on ne se plaint (pas seulement moi, les Thaïs aussi) que des petites chiasses qu’on peut attraper à manger dans la rue.
Le ramassage des ordures est un problème, il y a des efforts mais insuffisants. Manque d’équipement, manque d’infrastructure ? Bien sûr. Autres priorités ? Sans aucun doute. Mais il suffirait de si peu, de quelques mots venus des autorités ou des personnes respectées dans le pays, pour que tout le monde fasse quelques efforts supplémentaires. Car la discipline collective et le bon sens civique ne sont certainement pas des qualités manquantes chez les Thaïs. Et si quelqu’un pouvait y coller l’idée de « thamboun », je suis sûr qu’on verrait des miracles de nettoyage !
Bien dit Pierre,
Je sais qu’on peut voir une valeur de symbole dans le refus des sacs en plastique, mais je me méfie des gens qui se réfugient moralement derrière ces petits gestes, croyant être « du bon côté », qui ignorent tout des pays qu’ils visitent, et qui de surcroît feraient bien de commencer par balayer devant leur propre ( !!! 😉) porte.
(Je suis conscient, disant cela, de poser les pieds au milieu d’un véritable champ de mines, cette discussion !) 😮
Pour en revenir à la Thaïlande, mon impression personnelle est que c’est un tissu de contradictions (mais quel pays ne l’est pas ?).
Entre autres, sur la propreté. Les gens sont d’une propreté corporelle irréprochable (et ne se privent pas de trouver beaucoup d’étrangers franchement cradingues, mal lavés et ne « humant » pas très frais ….. y compris certains qui viennent donner des leçons). Ils sont aussi capables de se donner à fond au nettoyage de ce qu’on leur donne à nettoyer. Par contre, il est vrai que l’environnement est loin d’être nickel. Je vois presque tous les jours les rats et les cafards courir sur les trottoirs. Je frémis à l’idée d’une pandémie latente, jusqu’ici on ne se plaint (pas seulement moi, les Thaïs aussi) que des petites chiasses qu’on peut attraper à manger dans la rue.
Le ramassage des ordures est un problème, il y a des efforts mais insuffisants. Manque d’équipement, manque d’infrastructure ? Bien sûr. Autres priorités ? Sans aucun doute. Mais il suffirait de si peu, de quelques mots venus des autorités ou des personnes respectées dans le pays, pour que tout le monde fasse quelques efforts supplémentaires. Car la discipline collective et le bon sens civique ne sont certainement pas des qualités manquantes chez les Thaïs. Et si quelqu’un pouvait y coller l’idée de « thamboun », je suis sûr qu’on verrait des miracles de nettoyage !
C'est assez extraordinaire de venir donner des leçons d'écologie dans un pays où tu ne viens qu'en vacances.
La priorité des pays émergents n'est pas l'environnement. C'est un luxe des pays riches.
Les priorités sont tout à fait différentes : l'éducation, un toit pour chacun, des soins médicaux adéquats et abordables, un travail décent, l'accès à l'eau potable, une nourriture de qualité pour tous, etc.
Et puis avant d'aller voir ailleurs ce qu'on ne fait même pas chez soi, cet article et émission de TV récents sur :
"Super trash" l'enfer d'une décharge à ciel ouvert en Côte d'Azur http://www.leprogres.fr/...n-pleine-cote-d-azur
est-ce écologique ???🙁
Les priorités sont tout à fait différentes : l'éducation, un toit pour chacun, des soins médicaux adéquats et abordables, un travail décent, l'accès à l'eau potable, une nourriture de qualité pour tous, etc.
Et puis avant d'aller voir ailleurs ce qu'on ne fait même pas chez soi, cet article et émission de TV récents sur :
"Super trash" l'enfer d'une décharge à ciel ouvert en Côte d'Azur http://www.leprogres.fr/...n-pleine-cote-d-azur
est-ce écologique ???🙁
Je vous laisse libre d'alimenter le débat, mais je ne le suivrais plus. Je remercie tous ceux qui ont contribué à m'apprendre des choses, et quant aux autres, mon témoignage ne part que d'un bon sentiment, et désolée que vous ne l'ayez pas compris comme ça. Vos arguments sont autant valables les uns que les autres et je ne les juge pas.
Quant à donner de leçon, vous le faites si bien vous même et bien mieux que moi.
à bon entendeur!
" Juger autrui, c'est se juger" William Shakespeare
à bon entendeur!
" Juger autrui, c'est se juger" William Shakespeare
Je remercie tous ceux qui ont contribué à m'apprendre des choses
Un petit dernier pour la route
Thaïlande remporte 13 prix, Asean énergie 2013
🙂
Un petit dernier pour la route
Thaïlande remporte 13 prix, Asean énergie 2013
🙂
Merci de cet article très intéressant 😉
Des explications s'imposent
Des explications s'imposent
Chaque monde repose ainsi sur des centres de gravité dérisoires dont dépend secrètement tout son équilibre
Heu ! Lis l'article, tu trouveras les explications qui s'imposent 😎
Pascal ne lit pas, pascal n'explique pas, pascal :juste la mouche du coche
😏
Pascal ne lit pas, pascal n'explique pas, pascal :juste la mouche du coche
😏
Salut,
J'aurais plutôt écrit ça à la fin de ton méssage:
Faut pas parler aux cons, ça les instruit
J'aurais plutôt écrit ça à la fin de ton méssage:
Faut pas parler aux cons, ça les instruit
Eyestoeyes dit:
"C'est la 2ème fois que je reviens de Thaïlande, et à l'issu de ce second voyage, j'ai remarqué que ce pays n'est pas très écolo..."
Il n'y a pas peut être pas de parti écolo en Thailande, mais ca veut pas dire que les gens s'en préoccupent pas ou qu'il n'y a pas de progrès. Des exemples on peut en trouver a la pelle. Encore une fois l’écologie ne s’arrête pas aux détritus dans la rue. Et, à la base, la vie dans les campagnes Thaie est un mode de vie écolo. Mais on ne voit pas trop ça dans les zones touristiques.
Et, à la base, la vie dans les campagnes Thaie est un mode de vie écolo. Mais on ne voit pas trop ça dans les zones touristiques.
Heu...j'ai quelques sérieux doutes a ce sujet. Tu devrais aller plus souvent a la campagne car c'est loin d'être le cas, même autour des maisons on voit des tas de détritus (sacs plastiques, bouteilles et autres emballages) et les poubelles ne sont ramassées dans les villages que suivant le bon vouloir des autorités ou l'état du matériel de ramassage (pas de ramassage pendant plus de 3 semaines dans mon village pour cause de panne du camion de ramassage 😛). Je ne parlerai même pas des décharges sauvages en bord de route qu'on voit fréquemment 🤪 Un bon exemple du niveau de la "conscience écologique" des thais c'est l'état des bords d'une rivière ou du bord de mer après un WE thai.
1er exemple: Cha Am au mois d'aout cette année 🏴☠️

2nd exemple: Nam Tok Tan Gnam Waterfall près de Udon Thani 🙁

Entre autres exemples 😐
Heu...j'ai quelques sérieux doutes a ce sujet. Tu devrais aller plus souvent a la campagne car c'est loin d'être le cas, même autour des maisons on voit des tas de détritus (sacs plastiques, bouteilles et autres emballages) et les poubelles ne sont ramassées dans les villages que suivant le bon vouloir des autorités ou l'état du matériel de ramassage (pas de ramassage pendant plus de 3 semaines dans mon village pour cause de panne du camion de ramassage 😛). Je ne parlerai même pas des décharges sauvages en bord de route qu'on voit fréquemment 🤪 Un bon exemple du niveau de la "conscience écologique" des thais c'est l'état des bords d'une rivière ou du bord de mer après un WE thai.
1er exemple: Cha Am au mois d'aout cette année 🏴☠️

2nd exemple: Nam Tok Tan Gnam Waterfall près de Udon Thani 🙁

Entre autres exemples 😐
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
D'autres exemples côté mer, zone non touristique entre Chumphon et Ban Saphan
A Cha Am, la photo a été prise un vendredi, donc juste avant le WE 😐 Les thais ont débarqués en bus le soir et le lendemain et je n'ai plus osé prendre de photos de plage (qui ressemblaient presqu'aux tiennes a part devant quelques gros resorts 🙁), le mercredi: interdiction de parasols et grosse séance de nettoyage....jusqu'au prochain WE 😕 Donc un semblant de conscience de nettoyer la plage un jour par semaine: écologie ou business? 😇
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
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I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
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