Phuket: qu'en pensez-vous?
by Moo1
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Phuket, "la perle de l'asie du sud-est" comme l'appelle les asiatiques, connait un developpement touristique et economique surprenant.
Pour certains, ce developpement economique est la consequence du pouvoir de l'argent, pour d'autre c'est le paradis des touristes ou de nombreux retraites europeens qui y sejournent tout l'hiver voire a l'annee.
Si vous avez visite Phuket, quelle a ete votre reaction ?
Merci de me donner votre appreciation la plus objective.
Meilleurs sentiments.
Jacques
fev /mars 2008
Suis allé pour du farniente, pas de folles nuits 😉
* a Phuket / Patong Beach avec un hotel choisi volontairement en dehors du "centre fou" de Patong (un très bon choix dailleurs)
* a Langkawi ... petite chose en Malaisie a +/-150 km en dessous, même mer, même sable (ou presque)
Ma conclusion ... et bien je retourenais en Malaisie en 2009 et sans problème a Langkawi
Ma conclusion ... et bien je retourenais en Malaisie en 2009 et sans problème a Langkawi
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Phuket, moi j'y vais depuis 4 ans, et ça dépend de ce que tu attends, de cette ile.
"la perle de l'asie du sud-est" je ne dirais pas ça exactement, mais c'est beau, faut éviter la plage de patong, elle est affreuse, et trop de monde, sinon, si tu loues un scoot. tu peux y faire des trés belles balades, quand à la vie nocturne, boire un pot c'est pas mal, après il y a tout le reste !... et ça, c'est à toi de voir !!!
L'humour suppose une forte dose de détachement et de liberté.
Maintenant: tous les cons d'Europe s'y rendent ainsi que les gueux, tout est cher, pourri à mort, pollué à outrance..
Pfuff !! des réponses pareilles Et quand la Malaysie ne sera plus celle des années 2000 !!! "tu traiteras les gens aussi de cons, gueux, ou tout sera cher, pourri à mort, pollué à outrance." tu iras ailleurs, et tu venteras un autre pays !!
Pfuff !! des réponses pareilles Et quand la Malaysie ne sera plus celle des années 2000 !!! "tu traiteras les gens aussi de cons, gueux, ou tout sera cher, pourri à mort, pollué à outrance." tu iras ailleurs, et tu venteras un autre pays !!
L'humour suppose une forte dose de détachement et de liberté.
Perso, j'aime bien Phuket bon j 'y ai des amis alors ça aide, mais c 'est comme à BKK, en cherchant bien on trouve des endroits sympas.
Comme dis Iradium, il faut éviter Patong Beach, la plage n'est pas vraiment belle, entre les scoots des mers, les parachutes et les transats, ce n'est pas vraiment le paradis.
En louant un scoot ou un petit wrangler, on fais qq kms et on tombes sur des plages quasi désertes.
Concernant les touristes de Patong ou de la Bangla road, c'est vrai que l'on ne donne pas dans la super classe : sortie de plage sans passer par la case douche avec le débardeur, le bermuda et les tongs et zou direction les bars. Certaines filles doivent avoir le cœur bien accroché des fois.
Par contre au départ de Phuket, tu peux faire pas mal d 'iles vraiment magnifiques.
Je trouve Phuket assez sympa au final et je déprime sur Paris🙁 depuis 2 jours
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Comme dis Iradium, il faut éviter Patong Beach, la plage n'est pas vraiment belle, entre les scoots des mers, les parachutes et les transats, ce n'est pas vraiment le paradis.
En louant un scoot ou un petit wrangler, on fais qq kms et on tombes sur des plages quasi désertes.
Concernant les touristes de Patong ou de la Bangla road, c'est vrai que l'on ne donne pas dans la super classe : sortie de plage sans passer par la case douche avec le débardeur, le bermuda et les tongs et zou direction les bars. Certaines filles doivent avoir le cœur bien accroché des fois.
Par contre au départ de Phuket, tu peux faire pas mal d 'iles vraiment magnifiques.
Je trouve Phuket assez sympa au final et je déprime sur Paris🙁 depuis 2 jours
A +
Homme libre, toujours tu chérira la mer.
tout à fait d'accord avec toi, j'y ai aussi des amis, c'est peut-être pour ça qu'on aime, on sort des santiers battus !
Poste n° 6 au resto chez Bernard à Patong, il te propose une balade en bateau, extraordinaire, mais tu l'as peut-etre déjà faite.
L'humour suppose une forte dose de détachement et de liberté.
Bonjour,
je me rends avec ma femme à Phuket en septembre. pourrais-tu m'en dire plus sur cette balade en bateau, et où se trouve "chez Bernard" ? faut-il réserver à l'avance, à quel prix ? nous serons 6 nuits à Phuket merci d'avance
je me rends avec ma femme à Phuket en septembre. pourrais-tu m'en dire plus sur cette balade en bateau, et où se trouve "chez Bernard" ? faut-il réserver à l'avance, à quel prix ? nous serons 6 nuits à Phuket merci d'avance
pour le restaurant poste n°6, il est sur la plage, tu le trouveras facilement tu demandes, Bernard le Français, mais je ne sais pas si il fera cette balade en septembre, c'est encore la mousson !
L'humour suppose une forte dose de détachement et de liberté.
connait un developpement touristique et economique surprenant.
rien de nouveau, avant, il y avait les mines de étain simplement les touristes on repris de dessus je crois que sur phuket il y a autant d'avis que de personnes qui y vont,
rien de nouveau, avant, il y avait les mines de étain simplement les touristes on repris de dessus je crois que sur phuket il y a autant d'avis que de personnes qui y vont,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Salut iradium, je suis née en 1940 à Villefranche sur mer(alpes maritimes):"maintenant tous les cons d'Europe s'y rendent ainsi que les gueux.Tout est pourri à mort, pollué à outrance".....mais la rade est toujours aussi belle!
J'ai découvert Phuket en 72, Kata plage déserte. J'y retourne souvent.Bien sûr, ça a changé.Les prix surtout, mais l'ile est tjrs aussi belle.
Ben oui Iradium, tout comme le Paris d aujourd'hui ne ressemble plus au Paris de Doisneau.
Mais on ne peut pas empêcher les gens de voyager même si tu estimes qu'ils n'appartiennent pas à la même catégorie sociale que toi.
Moi j'ai déploré le nombres de lascars a casquettes sur Phuket😕, mais ils y sont et moi aussi, solution : trouver un coin tranquille afin de les éviter et pas se prendre la tête, de toute façon ils restent tous aux mêmes endroits.
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Mais on ne peut pas empêcher les gens de voyager même si tu estimes qu'ils n'appartiennent pas à la même catégorie sociale que toi.
Moi j'ai déploré le nombres de lascars a casquettes sur Phuket😕, mais ils y sont et moi aussi, solution : trouver un coin tranquille afin de les éviter et pas se prendre la tête, de toute façon ils restent tous aux mêmes endroits.
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Homme libre, toujours tu chérira la mer.
faut éviter la plage de patong, elle est affreuse
La plage de Patong est magnifique mais pour s'en rendre compte il faut y aller à 7:00 du mat et en basse saison. Là, pas de transats, pas de touristes, pas de jetskis. Et il faut faire face à la mer parce que derrière c'est pas terrible!
La plage de Patong est magnifique mais pour s'en rendre compte il faut y aller à 7:00 du mat et en basse saison. Là, pas de transats, pas de touristes, pas de jetskis. Et il faut faire face à la mer parce que derrière c'est pas terrible!
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Hélas oui. Après on ne la voit plus, elle est cachée sous les transats de tous ces touristes qui s'y entassent pour cramer au soleil. Et la mer est infestée de jetskis et autres bateaux qui "tirent" d'autres touristes sur des bananes gonflables ou en parachute ascensionnel!
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
La plage de Patong est magnifique mais pour s'en rendre compte il faut y aller à 7:00 du mat et en basse saison.
voila l'heure pour voir une belle plage, , , , , , , , , 😛😛
🙂De toute façon, je connais des lieux sublimes et magiques en Thaïlande....mais je ne les dévoile pas😉
Comme les belles plages de Pattaya? 😇...bon ok je sors si en plus Mister iradium est mal luné 😉😄😏😏😏😏😛
voila l'heure pour voir une belle plage, , , , , , , , , 😛😛
🙂De toute façon, je connais des lieux sublimes et magiques en Thaïlande....mais je ne les dévoile pas😉
Comme les belles plages de Pattaya? 😇...bon ok je sors si en plus Mister iradium est mal luné 😉😄😏😏😏😏😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Moi aussi je vais à Phuket depuis plusieurs années en me disant que c'est la dernière fois !
Par contre je ne mets jamais les pieds à Patong, je déteste, surtout ces bars qui regorgent de filles et de voyeurs en face en train de se rincer l'oeil avec bobonne, quelle horreur !
Pour moi, Phuket c'est bien d'autres choses, des plages superbes et tranquilles pour qui sait les dénicher, des belles ballades en motos, des endroits restés encore très thais où il y a peu de touristes ; c'est un bon compromis entre les petites îles (où je ne manque pas d'aller après) et les grosses villes. Restos sympas, bars, magasins, les vacances quoi, pour certains. Mais c'est vrai qu'en mars dernier, j'ai trouvé une recrudescence terrible de constructions en tout genre, et maintenant ils attaquent ma plage préférée 😠, ça fait mal de voir ça et là je me dis que Phuket, c'est fini.
daisy
Moi aussi j'aime bien Phuket ou je vais depuis plusieurs années.
Au risque de soulever une polémique je vais dire que j'en ai un peu assez de tous ces gens sur les forums qui méprisent Phuket et d'autres lieux : " Phuket ce n'est pas la vraie Thailande, Bangkok ce n'est pas la vraie Thailande ...etc..." A les écouter la seule vraie Thailande serait l' Issan ( et encore !!!).
A partir de cela on peut aussi se demander ce qu'est la France : pas le midi ( c'est plein de touristes ), pas Paris, pas la Bretagne ( bien trop typique ) et surement pas la Corse !!!..etc... Même chez moi (en Bourgogne ) l'été c'est rempli de touristes étrangers. Alors la vraie France ? la Creuse ? le Larzac? cela ne me parait pas vraiement typique non plus du mode de vie des Français !!!
Qui m'aime me suive...à Phuket ( J-6 )
A partir de cela on peut aussi se demander ce qu'est la France : pas le midi ( c'est plein de touristes ), pas Paris, pas la Bretagne ( bien trop typique ) et surement pas la Corse !!!..etc... Même chez moi (en Bourgogne ) l'été c'est rempli de touristes étrangers. Alors la vraie France ? la Creuse ? le Larzac? cela ne me parait pas vraiement typique non plus du mode de vie des Français !!!
Qui m'aime me suive...à Phuket ( J-6 )
Tu te trompes on peux aimer les 2 mais c'est vrai que Phuket, c'est pas la "vraie" Thailande (j'ose a peine le dire comme ca de peur de tomber dans "l'authentique" 🤪) ...y a tout simplement beaucoup trop de touristes (en % par rapport a la population thaie), dont moi quand j'y vais chaque année 😉 Pourquoi une polémique quand on parle d'évidence? 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Salut,
La prochaine foi que tu verra Bernard tu lui fera une bises de ma part. J'habite a 25 kms de chez lui, je le connais depuis 1992 et cela fait plus de 5 ans que je n'ai pas eu l'occasion de lui rendre visite. Aujourd'hui, pour garer une voiture pres de chez lui, cela devient trop complique.
Ceci dit, tous mes clients ont ete enchantes par son trip dans les iles. Bernard est unique ! Une tres bonnes adresse.
Petit conseil : Attention aux requins (residents francais sur Phuket) qui frequentent cet etablissement a la recherche de pigeons.
Cordialement.
Jacques
Je confirme la plage ( de patong) est sympa en basse saison, même l'après midi il y a pas tant de monde que ça... J'ai connu pire plage.
Sinon phuket en général, moi j'aime bien, car on y trouve à peu près tout, même ce que certains détestent... par contre en saison haute je ne sais pas ce que ça vaut... il ne faut pas oublier que c'est aussi un bon point de départ pour visiter les alentours. Pour finir heureusement que tout le monde ne veut pas y aller, sinon ça serait vraiment invivable 😎.
Sinon phuket en général, moi j'aime bien, car on y trouve à peu près tout, même ce que certains détestent... par contre en saison haute je ne sais pas ce que ça vaut... il ne faut pas oublier que c'est aussi un bon point de départ pour visiter les alentours. Pour finir heureusement que tout le monde ne veut pas y aller, sinon ça serait vraiment invivable 😎.
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Bonjour,
j'ai découvert Phuket il y a 15 ans et aujourd'hui bien sur tout à changer à une vitesse fulgurante, mais le problème des nouveaux touristes à 70% ils plongent direct sur Patong bien sur beaucoup d'entre eux n'ont pas aimer et pas mal ne font que le circuit classique Patong, Karon, Kata, et jusque Rawaï en journée je précise, alors qu'il y a encore de super coins à visiter et tranquille, souvent je donne des adresses dans des coins très tranquille et bon nombres de fois on m'a reprocher "" oui c'est bien mais c'est trop calme comme coin "" chercher l'erreur . Mais ceci dit que Phuket change de visage à une vitesse incroyable, récemment j'ai fait des photos et là on peut bien voir qu'ils veulent en faire une île de riches, voir la photo 2 et j'en passe rien qu'à voir la photo 3 des futurs apparts à plusieurs de millions de baths hummm rien qu'à voir les cloisons !! 🤪 Mais bon cela est tout à fait normal un coin comme ça de l'Asie du Sud/Est ""La Perle"" il ne faut pas se leurrer d'ici une dizaine d'années ou un peu plus ce sera un peu comme le deuxième Singapour mais au niveau de tourisme . Par contre pas loin de Phuket il y a encore des îles magnifiques à voir mais cela ce n'est pas pour le touriste de passage de 1 fois ou même à 3 ou 4 fois car ils n'ont pas le temps de voir tout ces coins, logique les agences ne proposent que les tours comme Phi-Phi, Raya, Baie de Phang-Nga ect... et même dans l'île de Phuket pas mal de choses à découvrir et à voir mais bon pour cela il faut bien sur un moyen de locomotion une motobyke ne suffit pas, donc une voiture très bien pour découvrir l'île . Pour en finir, perso j'adore Phuket mais en dehors de la saison en novembre et en avril ou mai, je vais dans mes coins tranquille que j'aime dont j'en ai parler souvent ici . . 😉
Mais pas évident d'en parler, car d'autres habitués du pays préfère Koh-Samai, Pattaya, Koh-Phanga, hua-Hin, Chumphon etc..... comme on dit à chacun ses couleurs et ses goûts .

j'ai découvert Phuket il y a 15 ans et aujourd'hui bien sur tout à changer à une vitesse fulgurante, mais le problème des nouveaux touristes à 70% ils plongent direct sur Patong bien sur beaucoup d'entre eux n'ont pas aimer et pas mal ne font que le circuit classique Patong, Karon, Kata, et jusque Rawaï en journée je précise, alors qu'il y a encore de super coins à visiter et tranquille, souvent je donne des adresses dans des coins très tranquille et bon nombres de fois on m'a reprocher "" oui c'est bien mais c'est trop calme comme coin "" chercher l'erreur . Mais ceci dit que Phuket change de visage à une vitesse incroyable, récemment j'ai fait des photos et là on peut bien voir qu'ils veulent en faire une île de riches, voir la photo 2 et j'en passe rien qu'à voir la photo 3 des futurs apparts à plusieurs de millions de baths hummm rien qu'à voir les cloisons !! 🤪 Mais bon cela est tout à fait normal un coin comme ça de l'Asie du Sud/Est ""La Perle"" il ne faut pas se leurrer d'ici une dizaine d'années ou un peu plus ce sera un peu comme le deuxième Singapour mais au niveau de tourisme . Par contre pas loin de Phuket il y a encore des îles magnifiques à voir mais cela ce n'est pas pour le touriste de passage de 1 fois ou même à 3 ou 4 fois car ils n'ont pas le temps de voir tout ces coins, logique les agences ne proposent que les tours comme Phi-Phi, Raya, Baie de Phang-Nga ect... et même dans l'île de Phuket pas mal de choses à découvrir et à voir mais bon pour cela il faut bien sur un moyen de locomotion une motobyke ne suffit pas, donc une voiture très bien pour découvrir l'île . Pour en finir, perso j'adore Phuket mais en dehors de la saison en novembre et en avril ou mai, je vais dans mes coins tranquille que j'aime dont j'en ai parler souvent ici . . 😉
Mais pas évident d'en parler, car d'autres habitués du pays préfère Koh-Samai, Pattaya, Koh-Phanga, hua-Hin, Chumphon etc..... comme on dit à chacun ses couleurs et ses goûts .

@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Salut,
OK, je reconnais que j'ai peut être été un peu caricaturale dans mon post.
C'est vrai que Phuket est pleine de touristes, mais je continue malgré tout à aimer cette ile; je l'ai découverte en 1980 et n' y suis retournée qu'en 2001 ( tu imagines le choc !!! ) et moi aussi j'aime aussi les endroits de Thailande plus " authentiques ".
J' éspere que tu ne t'es pas senti visé, puisque tu retourne régulièrement à Phuket, c'est que tu aimes au moins un peu.
Je trouve seulement que certaines personnes ont parfois un ton un peu méprisant à l'égard de ceux qui ne connaissent pas la Thailande et souhaitent se rendre à Phuket ( ou autres endroits touristiques ).
C'est parfois dommage : un 1er séjour à Phuket, voire Pattaya, peut donner envie de retourner en Thailande visiter des endroits moins touristiques.
Christine P.S. Je serai au G.S.I Mardi prochain!!!
Christine P.S. Je serai au G.S.I Mardi prochain!!!
No non no souci 😉, je ne me suis ni senti visé ni n'ai voulu défendre une cause, j'ai juste voulu relativiser les choses en ne faisant pas des oppositions simplistes Issan vs Phuket 🤪 J'aime les 2 mais pas de la même manière, c'est juste ce que j'ai voulu dire 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Je connais Phuket depuis 18 ans et j'y vis depuis plus de 8 ans.
Rien n'est fini a Phuket, c'est une transition.
Cette transition est peut-etre mauvaise a certains endroits comme Patong, mais elle semble se bonifier sur Nai Harn et Rawai.
Les Thais apprennent doucement a contruire leur avenir touristique et il semble qu'ils prennent de plus en plus de bonnes decisions pour respecter l'environnement.
N'avons nous pas nous meme fait de nombreuses betises dans le sud de la France ?
Il reste de nombreux sites fantastiques sur Phuket, encore vierges et personne ne les touchera. Encore faut-il savoir ou il sont !
Voyagement votre.
Jacques
mais c'est vrai que Phuket, c'est pas la "vraie" Thailande
Salut Boum, va falloir que t'arrête de sortir des inepsies pareilles sinon ça va mal aller! La Thaïlande, n'en déplaise à certain, c'est aussi depuis qques années, le tourisme de masse. Dès lors, Phuket comme Pattaya font partie de la "vraie Thaïlande", expression d'ailleurs totalement stupide puisqu'elle sous entend qu'il y aurait une "fausse Thaïlande". Si on parle d'authentisme ou de traditionnel alors ok. Est-ce que la Côte d'Azur en juillet août n'est pas la vraie France sous prétexte qu'il y a bcp de touristes? Sans parler de Paris litéralement envahie par des hordes d'asiatiques appareil photos en main.
Sur ce je suis entrain de faire mes valises. Me réjouis de changer d'air car Phuket devient de plus en plus irrespirable!
Salut Boum, va falloir que t'arrête de sortir des inepsies pareilles sinon ça va mal aller! La Thaïlande, n'en déplaise à certain, c'est aussi depuis qques années, le tourisme de masse. Dès lors, Phuket comme Pattaya font partie de la "vraie Thaïlande", expression d'ailleurs totalement stupide puisqu'elle sous entend qu'il y aurait une "fausse Thaïlande". Si on parle d'authentisme ou de traditionnel alors ok. Est-ce que la Côte d'Azur en juillet août n'est pas la vraie France sous prétexte qu'il y a bcp de touristes? Sans parler de Paris litéralement envahie par des hordes d'asiatiques appareil photos en main.
Sur ce je suis entrain de faire mes valises. Me réjouis de changer d'air car Phuket devient de plus en plus irrespirable!
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Hé hé oui bien sur que tu as raison similan, j'ai posté cela en pensant un peu a toi 😉 il n'y a bien sur pas de vraie ou fausse Thailande, il y a juste de multiples facettes d'un même pays...j'ai juste dit ca sur le coup en pensant au choc ressenti quand je suis allé a Phuket en janvier a mon retour d'Issan, ca m'a quand même fait tout drole de retrouver le business et les arnaques au tuk tuk...mais bon, c'est Phuket et j'aime bien cette île quoi qu'on en dise 😛
PS. Ah au fait moi c'est l'authentique qui me dérange le plus, le traditionnel je comprends mais l'authentique? Ca veut rien dire c'est exactement comme la "vraie et fausse" Thailande, ca me fait toujours penser aux zoos 🙁 Les Suisses, le chocolat, les montres et les banques, les francais la baguette et le béret? 😛
PS. Ah au fait moi c'est l'authentique qui me dérange le plus, le traditionnel je comprends mais l'authentique? Ca veut rien dire c'est exactement comme la "vraie et fausse" Thailande, ca me fait toujours penser aux zoos 🙁 Les Suisses, le chocolat, les montres et les banques, les francais la baguette et le béret? 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Si Phuket devient si irrespirable, pourquoi les touristes veulent ils y venir de plus en plus ?
Pour ceux qui ont connu Phuket a l'epoque, il n'ont qu'a en garder le meilleur souvenir.
Personnellement, je me rappellerai toujours, Kata beach et Nai harn beach desert de tout tourisme. Mais je ne crache pas sur ce que c'est aujourd'hui.
Comme j'ai connu le Grau du Roi et la Camargue en France, sans une seule caravane dans les annee 1980. Les touristes continuent a venir, et ....
Non il ne faut pas detester Phuket ! Ceux qui ont eu la chance de la connaitre vierge du tourisme de masse a l'epoque, doivent en garder un bon souvenir et ne pas lui cracher dessus aujourd'hui.
J'entends trop souvent des propos qui denoncent Phuket comme une ile destinee aux riches, ... je perciste a dire que ceux qui affirment ce genre d'argumentation sont de petits voyageurs egoistes sans experience du voyage.
Aujourd'hui, des destinations comme Samui et Lanta sont aussi cheres que Phuket voire plus.
Ces vieux baroudeurs qui critiquent Phuket et qui la frequentent depuis de nombreuses annees, sont les premiers a retrouver leurs bonnes adresses d'hotel et de bars pour y passer de bonnes soirees en de tres bonnes compagnies.
Thailandement votre.
Jack
En effet, Phuket n'est plus très "authentique" ...
Mais, comme les autres lieux touristiques, c'est (encore ?) "safe", pas d'attentats, pas de décapitations, pas de "road-side bomb", les professeurs peuvent enseigner etc ...
C'est vrai aussi de Samui, la différence c'est que Phuket est beaucoup plus grand, avec un "parfum de Pattaya" que Samui n'a pas.
Perso, j'aime bien Phuket-city, c'est très typique de toute la zone de l'ASE, et je me sens bien dans ce genre de rues, beaucoup plus que dans les "enfilades" (!) de bars à putes.
NB: Dans tous ces endroits, il y a un bout de "chinois" qui fait monter la sauce et est indispensable à l'équilibre de la chose. C'est çà aussi la Thaïlande ...
Mais, comme les autres lieux touristiques, c'est (encore ?) "safe", pas d'attentats, pas de décapitations, pas de "road-side bomb", les professeurs peuvent enseigner etc ...
C'est vrai aussi de Samui, la différence c'est que Phuket est beaucoup plus grand, avec un "parfum de Pattaya" que Samui n'a pas.
Perso, j'aime bien Phuket-city, c'est très typique de toute la zone de l'ASE, et je me sens bien dans ce genre de rues, beaucoup plus que dans les "enfilades" (!) de bars à putes.
NB: Dans tous ces endroits, il y a un bout de "chinois" qui fait monter la sauce et est indispensable à l'équilibre de la chose. C'est çà aussi la Thaïlande ...
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
La plage de Patong est magnifique mais pour s'en rendre compte il faut y aller à 7:00 du mat et en basse saison.
voila l'heure pour voir une belle plage, , , , , , , , , 😛😛
🙂De toute façon, je connais des lieux sublimes et magiques en Thaïlande....mais je ne les dévoile pas😉
égoiste va😏
voila l'heure pour voir une belle plage, , , , , , , , , 😛😛
🙂De toute façon, je connais des lieux sublimes et magiques en Thaïlande....mais je ne les dévoile pas😉
égoiste va😏
Moi j'en garde un bon souvenir pluisque c'est là que je suis allé la première fois que je suis venue en Thaïlande,
première vacances avec ma future femme, maintenant paysagement parlant j'avais trouvé ça beau mais pas exceptionnel,
mais j'aimerai tout de même bien y retourner.
"
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
J'ai oublié un "tuyau" ...
La dernière fois que j'y suis allé (à Phuket), j'ai dîné dans un restau au sommet d'une colline "en ville" (City).
C'est un peu cher mais la vue est fan-tas-tique, j'aime les couchers de soleil et là-bas on se régale !
La dernière fois que j'y suis allé (à Phuket), j'ai dîné dans un restau au sommet d'une colline "en ville" (City).
C'est un peu cher mais la vue est fan-tas-tique, j'aime les couchers de soleil et là-bas on se régale !
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Qui m'aime me suive...à Phuket ( J-6 )
Merci, si je pouvais !...
Merci, si je pouvais !...
L'humour suppose une forte dose de détachement et de liberté.
Si Phuket devient si irrespirable, pourquoi les touristes veulent ils y venir de plus en plus ?
Parce que pour bcp de touristes Phuket reste une destination de rêve.
Mais, vivant sur place depuis plusieurs années, je commence à saturer. Non pas de l'île en elle-même car elle possède toujours des coins magnifiques. Mais j'ai de plus en plus de peine avec la mentalité des gens qui y vivent et avec une partie des gens qui y viennent. Je peux comprendre l'hypocrisie des Thaïs puisque mentir pour ne pas perdre la face ou ne pas la faire perdre à autrui est ancré en eux depuis leur enfance mais pour les expats occidentaux j'ai un peu plus de mal. Une grande partie de ces expats ne pensent qu'à une chose, comment gagner du fric pour pouvoir vivre le mieux possible ici. Dès lors, la plupart du temps, les relations sont faussées, superficielles et tout sauf sincères. Evidemment on peut vivre en ermite et si ce style de vie convient, être très heureux à Phuket. Ce n'est malheureusement pas mon cas.
Chaque fois que je me promène à travers la Thaïlande, dans des endroits moins touristiques, je retrouve cette gentillesse des Thaïs qui m'avait séduit lors de mes premiers séjours. A Phuket, même si elle existe tjs, elle tend pourtant à disparaître. Je reviens de Lanta où je suis allé passer qques jours et, bien que cette ile soit touristique (moins que Phuket on est d'accord), l'amabilité et la sincérité m'ont parues bien plus présentes qu'à Phuket. Même les expats semblent moins pervertis par l'argent. Evidemment ce n'est que mon impression. Mais cette impression est suffisament forte pour me motiver à trouver un autre coin en Thaïlande pour m'installer.
Tu voulais des avis sur Phuket, en voilà un d'un type qui y vit.
Parce que pour bcp de touristes Phuket reste une destination de rêve.
Mais, vivant sur place depuis plusieurs années, je commence à saturer. Non pas de l'île en elle-même car elle possède toujours des coins magnifiques. Mais j'ai de plus en plus de peine avec la mentalité des gens qui y vivent et avec une partie des gens qui y viennent. Je peux comprendre l'hypocrisie des Thaïs puisque mentir pour ne pas perdre la face ou ne pas la faire perdre à autrui est ancré en eux depuis leur enfance mais pour les expats occidentaux j'ai un peu plus de mal. Une grande partie de ces expats ne pensent qu'à une chose, comment gagner du fric pour pouvoir vivre le mieux possible ici. Dès lors, la plupart du temps, les relations sont faussées, superficielles et tout sauf sincères. Evidemment on peut vivre en ermite et si ce style de vie convient, être très heureux à Phuket. Ce n'est malheureusement pas mon cas.
Chaque fois que je me promène à travers la Thaïlande, dans des endroits moins touristiques, je retrouve cette gentillesse des Thaïs qui m'avait séduit lors de mes premiers séjours. A Phuket, même si elle existe tjs, elle tend pourtant à disparaître. Je reviens de Lanta où je suis allé passer qques jours et, bien que cette ile soit touristique (moins que Phuket on est d'accord), l'amabilité et la sincérité m'ont parues bien plus présentes qu'à Phuket. Même les expats semblent moins pervertis par l'argent. Evidemment ce n'est que mon impression. Mais cette impression est suffisament forte pour me motiver à trouver un autre coin en Thaïlande pour m'installer.
Tu voulais des avis sur Phuket, en voilà un d'un type qui y vit.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
moi c'est l'authentique qui me dérange le plus, le traditionnel je comprends mais l'authentique?
Tu as raison, authentique n'est pas le bon mot. Restons donc sur traditionnel.
Tu as raison, authentique n'est pas le bon mot. Restons donc sur traditionnel.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Bonjour,
j'ai découvert Phuket il y a 15 ans et aujourd'hui bien sur tout à changer à une vitesse fulgurante, mais le problème des nouveaux touristes à 70% ils plongent direct sur Patong bien sur beaucoup d'entre eux n'ont pas aimer et pas mal ne font que le circuit classique Patong, Karon, Kata, et jusque Rawaï en journée je précise, alors qu'il y a encore de super coins à visiter et tranquille, souvent je donne des adresses dans des coins très tranquille et bon nombres de fois on m'a reprocher "" oui c'est bien mais c'est trop calme comme coin "" chercher l'erreur .
Salut Barbot
Y a pas d'erreur. Juste une énorme différence entre ce que disent les gens et ce qu'ils font. Ils veulent la plage paradisiaque sans personne, mais animée le soir, la vraie Thailande mais où on parle anglais, de la cuisine typique, mais sous forme de pizzas. Il y a désormais plus de (fausses) pizzerias dans les endroits touristiques de Thailande que de restos thais. C'est la demande qui crée l'offre.... Je donne sans arrêt des adresses à Phuket de coins sympas à des gens qui passent par l'endroit où je vis. Quand je les revois quelques heures plus tard pour savoir où ils ont réservé, c'est à Patong bien entendu... Là où je vis, les touristes ont le choix : se regrouper voir s'entasser sur 1% de la surface disponible, ou marcher dix minutes et se retrouver quasi seuls. Devinez l'option qu'ils choisissent... En anglais on appelle ça le people watching, ça permet de dire du mal du voisin (t'as vu son maillot de bain à celle là 😎) et cela leur évite de s'emmerder....
j'ai découvert Phuket il y a 15 ans et aujourd'hui bien sur tout à changer à une vitesse fulgurante, mais le problème des nouveaux touristes à 70% ils plongent direct sur Patong bien sur beaucoup d'entre eux n'ont pas aimer et pas mal ne font que le circuit classique Patong, Karon, Kata, et jusque Rawaï en journée je précise, alors qu'il y a encore de super coins à visiter et tranquille, souvent je donne des adresses dans des coins très tranquille et bon nombres de fois on m'a reprocher "" oui c'est bien mais c'est trop calme comme coin "" chercher l'erreur .
Salut Barbot
Y a pas d'erreur. Juste une énorme différence entre ce que disent les gens et ce qu'ils font. Ils veulent la plage paradisiaque sans personne, mais animée le soir, la vraie Thailande mais où on parle anglais, de la cuisine typique, mais sous forme de pizzas. Il y a désormais plus de (fausses) pizzerias dans les endroits touristiques de Thailande que de restos thais. C'est la demande qui crée l'offre.... Je donne sans arrêt des adresses à Phuket de coins sympas à des gens qui passent par l'endroit où je vis. Quand je les revois quelques heures plus tard pour savoir où ils ont réservé, c'est à Patong bien entendu... Là où je vis, les touristes ont le choix : se regrouper voir s'entasser sur 1% de la surface disponible, ou marcher dix minutes et se retrouver quasi seuls. Devinez l'option qu'ils choisissent... En anglais on appelle ça le people watching, ça permet de dire du mal du voisin (t'as vu son maillot de bain à celle là 😎) et cela leur évite de s'emmerder....
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Pour beaucoup de gens et les anglos saxons en particulier, les vacances, c'est Sea, Sex and Sun. Avec en prime un autre S, celui de soulographie. De ce coté là, (même si bien entendu il manque le sexe😏😏😏) Phuket est une de leurs destinations rêvées....
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Salut Joel,
Effectivement sur Phuket l' argent fausse les relations et les thais te prennent pour un portefeuille avec des jambes, mais c'est le lot de tous les endroits touristiques.
Alors ça y est, tu va faire des infidélités à Phuket,
tu pars sur les iles ou tu rentres en Suisse ?
Bonne continuation,
a+
Effectivement sur Phuket l' argent fausse les relations et les thais te prennent pour un portefeuille avec des jambes, mais c'est le lot de tous les endroits touristiques.
Alors ça y est, tu va faire des infidélités à Phuket,
tu pars sur les iles ou tu rentres en Suisse ?
Bonne continuation,
a+
Homme libre, toujours tu chérira la mer.
""""mais j'aimerai tout de même bien y retourner."""
😉😉😉 MOI AUSSI 😎😎😎😎😎 J' en ai très envie, et je le dis très fort 😛😛😛😛😛😛😛
😉😉😉 MOI AUSSI 😎😎😎😎😎 J' en ai très envie, et je le dis très fort 😛😛😛😛😛😛😛
""Le voyage pour moi, ce n' est pas arriver, c' est partir. C' est l' imprévu de la prochaine escale, c' est le désir jamais comblé de connaître sans cesse autre chose, c' est demain, éternellement demain"" Roland Dorgelès.
A+++ Lisa
A+++ Lisa
Moi j'y avais pas été depuis ma première fois en 2000 et après 14 voyages en thai, j'ai décidé en mars dernier d'y retourner et déjà beaucoup de changement mais du aussi au tsunami et aux nombreuses constructions .
Mais le plus grand changement a été le centre commercial a patong en lieu et place du 7.11 et des petites rues authentiques ou il y avais mon cyber café et mon billard ou j'aimer battre tt le monde 😛 MDR !!! .
Mais j'y retourne ce soir pour dire que ça reste très bien a mes yeux !!!
Ps. Quelqu'un pourrais me dire comment aller a la plage de lamsing, j'ai oublié le chemin !!!
Ps. Quelqu'un pourrais me dire comment aller a la plage de lamsing, j'ai oublié le chemin !!!
Peace And Love !!!
J'ai oublié un "tuyau" ...
La dernière fois que j'y suis allé (à Phuket), j'ai dîné dans un restau au sommet d'une colline "en ville" (City).
C'est un peu cher mais la vue est fan-tas-tique, j'aime les couchers de soleil et là-bas on se régale !
Oui je connais, il est très réputé, mais n'ai pas encore eu le plaisir d'y dîner (car c'est pour les couchers de soleil que ce resto est aussi réputé, un peu comm le reggea bar au dessus de kata noi 😉), il parait qu'on y mange vraiment très bien, c'est dans mon carnet de route gourmande a Phuket, next time 😎
La dernière fois que j'y suis allé (à Phuket), j'ai dîné dans un restau au sommet d'une colline "en ville" (City).
C'est un peu cher mais la vue est fan-tas-tique, j'aime les couchers de soleil et là-bas on se régale !
Oui je connais, il est très réputé, mais n'ai pas encore eu le plaisir d'y dîner (car c'est pour les couchers de soleil que ce resto est aussi réputé, un peu comm le reggea bar au dessus de kata noi 😉), il parait qu'on y mange vraiment très bien, c'est dans mon carnet de route gourmande a Phuket, next time 😎
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Peut-être bien? Je ne me souviens pas du nom mais j'ai vu des photos et je le visualise sur une colline qui domine Phuket Town et la baie. Par contre je ne me souviens pas que c'était aussi luxueux que CECI 😕
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
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Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!