Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Ségrégation entre thailandais et touristes
by Seblud
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
C'est ton pays d'origine a dit que tu doit entré au pays ?🤪 Acause les bombes à Bangkok ?
Je suis arrivée à Bangkok vers 19 h 30 au même moment que j'étais à l'hotel ( Royal River hotel ) loin de tous.
Ce que vous serez demain est la conséquence de ce que vous faites aujourd'hui.
* Le JADE doit être taillé pour devenir beau , * L'HOMME doit souffrir pour devenir grand.
* Le JADE doit être taillé pour devenir beau , * L'HOMME doit souffrir pour devenir grand.
la mort est la fin de la vie,
non, la mort ce n'est pas la fin de la vie ; la mort c'est quand on t'a oublié !! il n'y a pas de fin de vie d'abord si tu as des enfants, et ensuite si l'on pense a toi souvent et a ce que tu as fait.
et si je suis triste, ce n'est pas parce qu'il est parti, c'est parce que je n'entendrai plus ses coups de gueules .............et ses révoltes.
non, la mort ce n'est pas la fin de la vie ; la mort c'est quand on t'a oublié !! il n'y a pas de fin de vie d'abord si tu as des enfants, et ensuite si l'on pense a toi souvent et a ce que tu as fait.
et si je suis triste, ce n'est pas parce qu'il est parti, c'est parce que je n'entendrai plus ses coups de gueules .............et ses révoltes.
trouver son chemin personnel a travers le chemin initiatique du voyage
attention, cela deviens hors sujet, titre de la discussion "segregation entre ..." ne mélangeons pas les genres, le mauvais genre et un Homme de qualité. à +
marraîne d'une enfant Karen qui vit avec sa famille dans un camp de réfugiés en Thaïlande : enfant choisie de par ses origines (Karen et Birmane)
attention, cela deviens hors sujet,
tu as raison, mais j'ai fait un post dessus, avec une photo de méditation dans un temple, et manifestement il n'y a eu que 2 personnes qui sont venus répondre dont roger ; voila pourquoi j'en ai parlé ici, car je me devais d'en parler, l'abbé Pierre étant pour moi un sujet de réflexion et aussi d'engagement! c'ets tout simple et puis je pense que cela a donné a ce post un peu de fraicheur d'ame ............ cette phrase n'engageant que moi evidemment .
tu as raison, mais j'ai fait un post dessus, avec une photo de méditation dans un temple, et manifestement il n'y a eu que 2 personnes qui sont venus répondre dont roger ; voila pourquoi j'en ai parlé ici, car je me devais d'en parler, l'abbé Pierre étant pour moi un sujet de réflexion et aussi d'engagement! c'ets tout simple et puis je pense que cela a donné a ce post un peu de fraicheur d'ame ............ cette phrase n'engageant que moi evidemment .
trouver son chemin personnel a travers le chemin initiatique du voyage
Je ne connais pas beaucoup de farangs qui vivent en Thailande en gagnant des salaires thai. Grosso modo et dans la tranche haute 6000 à 8000 bahts par mois...
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
ne t'inquiète pas ! en réalité je m'adressais aussi à tes prédécesseurs et j'ai profité que cela soit toi ! pour renvoyer l'ascenseur ... gentiment !
marraîne d'une enfant Karen qui vit avec sa famille dans un camp de réfugiés en Thaïlande : enfant choisie de par ses origines (Karen et Birmane)
si tu vas a cannes tu ne serais pas surpris de payer ton cafe 3 / 4euros pareil pour les lieus touristiques de thailande comme phuket, ayuthaya etc
pour les tickets de bus a mochit par ex j ai jamais eu de probleme les prix etant bien affiches sur le guichet
c est vrai que parfois il y a differentes compagnies ou differentes categories, et que les prix augmente regulierement
Je n'avais pas encore vu ton post dédié quand je t'ai répondu ici...
Et je n'ai toujours pas répondu l'ayant déjà fait ici;
Que rajouter aux quelques mots déjà écrits?
58 ans déjà qu'il avait fondé Emmaüs;
et maintenant nos hypocrites veulent lui faire des obsèques nationales à Notre Dame en espérant que son CRI s'éteindra le plus vite possible;
Je ne sais pas quoi dire.
Si, lire et/ou relire le dernier discours de Nicolas Hulot.
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
Je ne connais pas beaucoup de farangs qui vivent en Thailande en gagnant des salaires thai. Grosso modo et dans la tranche haute 6000 à 8000 bahts par mois...
S'il est vrai que pour une bonne partie de la population, les salaires sont a la mesure de ce que vous dites.
Vous avez surement aussi remarque qu'une autre partie de cette meme population roule en limousine, frequente les bons restaurants, clubs, commerces de luxe et vraissemblablement ne couche pas sous les ponts !
Donc ou est le probleme sur les questions que vous vous posez ? 🙂
Esperons qu'il n'est pas seulement fixé sur l'existence des "farangs" comme vous dites... 😉
S'il est vrai que pour une bonne partie de la population, les salaires sont a la mesure de ce que vous dites.
Vous avez surement aussi remarque qu'une autre partie de cette meme population roule en limousine, frequente les bons restaurants, clubs, commerces de luxe et vraissemblablement ne couche pas sous les ponts !
Donc ou est le probleme sur les questions que vous vous posez ? 🙂
Esperons qu'il n'est pas seulement fixé sur l'existence des "farangs" comme vous dites... 😉
🙂Petit rigolo: de un, je ne participe pas à votre conversation sénile
de deux: j'ai lancé une boutade à Observateur
de trois: je ne sponsorise pas les mafias que ce soit en France, Belgique, Thaïlande et ailleurs..d'ailleurs, Observateur a une approche réaliste; pq un sino-thaï qui a de vrais comptes bancaires payerait moins cher qu'un farang"en grande majorité" qui a un compte virtuel et compte ses sous tous les jours.
De quatre: je m'en fous de vos salades, je n'ai jamais eu d'histoires en Thaïlande..et qd un con m'insulte, je lui fais comprendre.😉
Puisque le débat part en vrille, je m'en voudrais de ne pas ajouter mon petit grain de sel : lorsque j'ai passé mon bac Sciences Eco, les profs ne faisaient pas autant de fautes, même s'ils étaient très énervés.....
....bon, le post sur le prix du billet à la gare, c'est n'importe quoi, c'est un vrai "farang khi nok"......pouf pouf ......par contre il y a maintenant une vrai discrimination dans le prix d'entrée des parcs nationaux.......là, c'est indiqué clairement au guichet, je crois qu'on paye genre 50 fois + cher qu'un thai !!!!!...mais bon, je pense que chaque pays est libre de fixer sa politique envers les etrangers, et c'est vraiment pire dans d'autre pays (Cuba, Chine, Vietnam...)......
😉 J ADOREEEEEEEEEEEEE TA REMARQUE 😛
Franchement mon ami tu aurai du la garder pour toi cette anecdocte car tu fait pitier plus kotre chose !!!!!
parler pour rien pendant je ne sais pas combien de temps aller dun bout a lautre pour 2 miserables euro....c triste quand meme
tia autant marchander a paris quan tia acheter ton billet davion ????? tie pa chez toi tu la ferme point barre !!!
pfffffffffffff marre de ces touristes en bois
Franchement mon ami tu aurai du la garder pour toi cette anecdocte car tu fait pitier plus kotre chose !!!!!
parler pour rien pendant je ne sais pas combien de temps aller dun bout a lautre pour 2 miserables euro....c triste quand meme
tia autant marchander a paris quan tia acheter ton billet davion ????? tie pa chez toi tu la ferme point barre !!!
pfffffffffffff marre de ces touristes en bois
michele
Oui enfin bref tout ceux qui trouve ca normal que les prix augmentent (meme peut soit il) systematiquement tous les ans en Thailande, ont tors.Je comprends ceux qui se font arnaquer, parce que c'est le mot.Pourquoi allons nous en Thailande?Parce que c'est un depaysement a moindre frais, on vit tres bien pour tres peu d'argent!! Il est donc normal de critiquer ceux qui se foutent de notre gue...! Pourquoi existe il 3 prix pour un parcours en bus a ton avis "mida ottlnpac didier46 et les autres y'en a bcp qui ne savent pas...bref)?Pour faire payé au touriste le prix le plus cher!!Et oui les thai eux ne payeront jamais le maxi!! Et c'est pour bcp de choses comme ca.....comme la biere a 100THB ou va on, c'est le meme prix chez nous, pk faire 10000 bornes??c dommage c'etait tellement bien 10 ans en arriere....De toute facon la Thailande c fini, les thai ont prit le pli, ils savent qu'on a de l'argent, ils ont pris une grosse tete phenomenale donc tout augmente tous les ans quoi que vous pensez, car vous pensez mal.Phuket devient l'endroit le plus cher d'Asie du sud est.C'est fini, place a l'Indonesie (par exemple) ou la ils se foutent carrement moins de ta gueu..!!!!.Quoi kon dise, quand il parlent entre eux quand il y a un litige, c'est pour se fouttre de notre gueule, mais la plus part de vous, vous n'y etes allé que 1 ou 2 fois, c'est normal que vous ne voyez rien, laisser dire a ceux qui y vont tres souvent.
Bye (trop venere de conneries de certains)
Une tite full moon à Ko Pha Ngan, Maekong Sprite RedBull??
Pourquoi allons nous en Thailande?Parce que c'est un depaysement a moindre frais!!
Ne critique pas sans savoir... Tout le monde ne va pas en Thailande pour "un dépaysement à moindre frais". Ni pour la full moon party !
Ne critique pas sans savoir... Tout le monde ne va pas en Thailande pour "un dépaysement à moindre frais". Ni pour la full moon party !
Pourquoi allons nous en Thailande?Parce que c'est un depaysement a moindre frais!!
Ne critique pas sans savoir... Tout le monde ne va pas en Thailande pour "un dépaysement à moindre frais". Ni pour la full moon party !
Non tu as raison je n'y suis allé qu'une douzaine de fois c'est tres peu je sais, quoi qu'il en soit vous ne comprenez rien, toi dans les premiers, l'interet de ces destinations.Toi ca ne te derange pas de payer tjs plus cher chaque année, quoi que je ne sais pas si tu y es deja allé plus d'une fois ou 2(?), mais c'est rageant.Et tout ca avec le sourir (je comprends pk maintenant) c'est pour mieux te la glisser!! Un exemple, entre 2 magasins l'un a coté de l'autre, un T shirt de m... meme pas une marque! l'un te dis 150 (ok) et l'autre d'apres te dit 550, la y a pas de foutage de gueule??non bien sur...donc va faire un tour et on pourra parler apres. Salutation.
Ne critique pas sans savoir... Tout le monde ne va pas en Thailande pour "un dépaysement à moindre frais". Ni pour la full moon party !
Non tu as raison je n'y suis allé qu'une douzaine de fois c'est tres peu je sais, quoi qu'il en soit vous ne comprenez rien, toi dans les premiers, l'interet de ces destinations.Toi ca ne te derange pas de payer tjs plus cher chaque année, quoi que je ne sais pas si tu y es deja allé plus d'une fois ou 2(?), mais c'est rageant.Et tout ca avec le sourir (je comprends pk maintenant) c'est pour mieux te la glisser!! Un exemple, entre 2 magasins l'un a coté de l'autre, un T shirt de m... meme pas une marque! l'un te dis 150 (ok) et l'autre d'apres te dit 550, la y a pas de foutage de gueule??non bien sur...donc va faire un tour et on pourra parler apres. Salutation.
Une tite full moon à Ko Pha Ngan, Maekong Sprite RedBull??
Fais comme moi, amene ton pack de Kronembourgs (que tu vas acheter a Andorre) quand tu vas a la foulmoune, bon, tu passes peut-etre pour un con mais au moins tu ne te fais enc..., pardon, arnaquer, toujours ca de pris, non?
"La Thailande c'etait mieux il y a dix ans" ca se disait deja il y dix ans.
J'peux pas m'en empêcher, Dieu me pardonne... Annie Cordy.
"comme la biere a 100THB"
J'aimerais savoir où tu achètes une bière à 100 baht!!🙁
dans un beer bar de Pattaya ou de Patong beach, peut-être?
mais sûrement pas au 7/11 et encore moins à l'épicerie du coin.
Peut-être 258 voyages en Thailande mais tu ne connais encore rien de ce pays!
Un autre intervenant nous dit que les farang payent les entrées dans les parcs nationaux "peut-être 50 fois plus cher"!! Ben voyons! pourquoi pas 1000 fois pendant que vous y êtes! les thai payent en général 80 baht quand nous payons 400 baht ; ça fait 5 fois plus cher; les résidents farang qui savent se débrouiller correctement payent le même prix que les thai; Faut arrêter de raconter n'importe quoi.
80 baht pour le commun des mortels en Thailande c'est 4h de boulot; le jour où vous paierez l'entrée du musée du Louvre 32 €, vous viendrez pleurnicher; c'est pas demain la veille...
Et effectivement comme le souligne Observateur, les thai qui ont de la monnaie en ont bien plus que tous les touristes, même ceux qui se payent des suites à 3000 € la nuit! 90% de "pauvres", 8 à 9 % d'aisés, avec des revenus mensuels dépassant fréquemment les 30.000 € ; j'en connais quelques'uns. et 1 à 2 % de fabuleusement riches...
Peut-être 258 voyages en Thailande mais tu ne connais encore rien de ce pays!
Un autre intervenant nous dit que les farang payent les entrées dans les parcs nationaux "peut-être 50 fois plus cher"!! Ben voyons! pourquoi pas 1000 fois pendant que vous y êtes! les thai payent en général 80 baht quand nous payons 400 baht ; ça fait 5 fois plus cher; les résidents farang qui savent se débrouiller correctement payent le même prix que les thai; Faut arrêter de raconter n'importe quoi.
80 baht pour le commun des mortels en Thailande c'est 4h de boulot; le jour où vous paierez l'entrée du musée du Louvre 32 €, vous viendrez pleurnicher; c'est pas demain la veille...
Et effectivement comme le souligne Observateur, les thai qui ont de la monnaie en ont bien plus que tous les touristes, même ceux qui se payent des suites à 3000 € la nuit! 90% de "pauvres", 8 à 9 % d'aisés, avec des revenus mensuels dépassant fréquemment les 30.000 € ; j'en connais quelques'uns. et 1 à 2 % de fabuleusement riches...
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
Non tu as raison je n'y suis allé qu'une douzaine de fois c'est tres peu je sais
ben dis donc, si tu as de quoi te payer autant de fois l'avion, ton attitude est d'autant plus déplorable... kih nok! à moins que ce soit papa qui paie... ??? (simple supposition) Citation quoi qu'il en soit vous ne comprenez rien, toi dans les premiers, l'interet de ces destinations.
chacun son intérêt, le tien semble être "profiter de la misère des autres", le mien, pas la peine d'essayer de te l'expliquer... tu ne comprendrais pas
Toi ca ne te derange pas de payer tjs plus cher chaque année, quoi que je ne sais pas si tu y es deja allé plus d'une fois ou 2(?),
Tu as raison, premier voyage en décembre, second programmé en mai... et si je paie mon repas 3 baths de plus, je le trouverai quand mm délicieux... Note que vu mon "intérêt pour ce genre de voyage", il me sera probablement offert avec coeur et plaisir par un(e) des autochtones avec qui j'ai noué des relations amicales sur place, personnes qui seront contentes de mon retour et pour qui ce repas constituera un réel trou dans leur budget; ce qui ne les empêchera pas de me l'offrir avec le sourire non-commercial que tu n'as jamais vu, malgré tes 12 voyages !
Un exemple, entre 2 magasins l'un a coté de l'autre, un T shirt de m... meme pas une marque!(1) l'un te dis 150 (ok) et l'autre d'apres te dit 550, la y a pas de foutage de gueule??(2)
(1)Si tu veux des marques, va dans les magasins ad hoc. Tu peux aussi les acheter aux Champs Elysées... !!! (2) Tu dois probablement avoir la ... de l'emploi... et si tu essayais d'enlever le billet de 1000 que tu as sur le front? (juste une supposition)
donc va faire un tour et on pourra parler apres.
à la full moon ? no thank you 😉😉
ben dis donc, si tu as de quoi te payer autant de fois l'avion, ton attitude est d'autant plus déplorable... kih nok! à moins que ce soit papa qui paie... ??? (simple supposition) Citation quoi qu'il en soit vous ne comprenez rien, toi dans les premiers, l'interet de ces destinations.
chacun son intérêt, le tien semble être "profiter de la misère des autres", le mien, pas la peine d'essayer de te l'expliquer... tu ne comprendrais pas
Toi ca ne te derange pas de payer tjs plus cher chaque année, quoi que je ne sais pas si tu y es deja allé plus d'une fois ou 2(?),
Tu as raison, premier voyage en décembre, second programmé en mai... et si je paie mon repas 3 baths de plus, je le trouverai quand mm délicieux... Note que vu mon "intérêt pour ce genre de voyage", il me sera probablement offert avec coeur et plaisir par un(e) des autochtones avec qui j'ai noué des relations amicales sur place, personnes qui seront contentes de mon retour et pour qui ce repas constituera un réel trou dans leur budget; ce qui ne les empêchera pas de me l'offrir avec le sourire non-commercial que tu n'as jamais vu, malgré tes 12 voyages !
Un exemple, entre 2 magasins l'un a coté de l'autre, un T shirt de m... meme pas une marque!(1) l'un te dis 150 (ok) et l'autre d'apres te dit 550, la y a pas de foutage de gueule??(2)
(1)Si tu veux des marques, va dans les magasins ad hoc. Tu peux aussi les acheter aux Champs Elysées... !!! (2) Tu dois probablement avoir la ... de l'emploi... et si tu essayais d'enlever le billet de 1000 que tu as sur le front? (juste une supposition)
donc va faire un tour et on pourra parler apres.
à la full moon ? no thank you 😉😉
ben dis donc, si tu as de quoi te payer autant de fois l'avion, ton attitude est d'autant plus déplorable... kih nok!
à moins que ce soit papa qui paie... ??? (simple supposition)
Pas la peine de faire des suppositions, il suffit de lire son profil pour comprendre, nico est agent d'Air France.
Pas la peine de faire des suppositions, il suffit de lire son profil pour comprendre, nico est agent d'Air France.
les résidents farang qui savent se débrouiller correctement payent le même prix que les thai;
Faut arrêter de raconter n'importe quoi.
Comme quoi tout peu s'expliquer simplement... Merci pour eux 🙂
A ce titre, nous ne pouvons pas nier l'ambivalence entre ceux qui sejournent a l'occasion dans un pays pendant que certains y vivent en permanence.
Meme si la Thailande a l'air de dechainer quelques passions, il est dommage voir ridicule de devoir se dechirer pour ca ! 😕
J'ajouterais que le thailandais lui-meme doit porter un regard different sur l'etranger. Entre celui qui tous les jours cotoie ces derniers, travaille, parle au quotidien une langue differente de la sienne, et l'autre qui n'a a priori aucun contact avec ce monde ?
D'autant plus que les zones geographiques sont bien definies pour ne pas dire cantonnées a des sites specifiques...
Comme quoi tout peu s'expliquer simplement... Merci pour eux 🙂
A ce titre, nous ne pouvons pas nier l'ambivalence entre ceux qui sejournent a l'occasion dans un pays pendant que certains y vivent en permanence.
Meme si la Thailande a l'air de dechainer quelques passions, il est dommage voir ridicule de devoir se dechirer pour ca ! 😕
J'ajouterais que le thailandais lui-meme doit porter un regard different sur l'etranger. Entre celui qui tous les jours cotoie ces derniers, travaille, parle au quotidien une langue differente de la sienne, et l'autre qui n'a a priori aucun contact avec ce monde ?
D'autant plus que les zones geographiques sont bien definies pour ne pas dire cantonnées a des sites specifiques...
nico est agent d'Air France
Ah, ok, je comprends qu'il ait "posé le pied" autant de fois en territoire étranger... 😉😉😉 Un grand voyageur... !!!
Bonne journée, je coupe, faut qd mm que je bosse pour payer mon billet d'avion.
Fortini, Excellente idée... j'y penserai !
Ah, ok, je comprends qu'il ait "posé le pied" autant de fois en territoire étranger... 😉😉😉 Un grand voyageur... !!!
Bonne journée, je coupe, faut qd mm que je bosse pour payer mon billet d'avion.
Fortini, Excellente idée... j'y penserai !
je peux te dire q'en Issan, il sait TRES vite faire la difference, si tu lui pose la question, il te répondra sans détour,
mais gare aux réponses, pas de langue de bois,
sur les endroits hypers touristiques (....) là, tout les Farangs sont dans le meme sac, normal....
J'ajouterais que le thailandais lui-meme doit porter un regard different sur l'etranger. D'autant plus que les zones geographiques sont bien definies pour ne pas dire cantonnées a des sites specifiques...
J'ajouterais que le thailandais lui-meme doit porter un regard different sur l'etranger. D'autant plus que les zones geographiques sont bien definies pour ne pas dire cantonnées a des sites specifiques...
Ségrégation entre Thailandais et européens : un européen arrive à Bangkok : visa à l'arrivée gratuit pour trente jours. Un Thailandais veut venir en Europe : trente euros de frais de visa obligatoire plus présentation de l'assurance voyage, dans les mêmes tarifs une fois le visa délivré ...😐
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Un européen "pauvre" peut il faire du tourisme en Thailande ? Un Thailandais "pauvre" peut il faire du tourisme en Europe, obtenir un visa par exemple ? Quant au logement social obtenu par le Thailandais qui s'installe en France, je crois que cela fait partie des idées reçues... Essayez d'otenir un logement social en débarquant de Thailande...
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
je peux te dire q'en Issan, il sait TRES vite faire la difference, si tu lui pose la question, il te répondra sans détour,
mais gare aux réponses, pas de langue de bois,
sur les endroits hypers touristiques (....) là, tout les Farangs sont dans le meme sac, normal....
Sous cet angle, on pourrait meme ajouter que la Chanson satirique de 1985 "Welcome to Thailand" du groupe "Carabao" a scellé le ciment ! 😉
Extrait traduit en francais : Venez, vite. Voyagez, Oubliez vos problemes, laissez les tomber. Le gouvernement a vraiment fait du bon boulot. Tout le monde est satisfait ! Quand on leur demande ce qu'ils aiment en Thailande, Les touristes repondent sans se gener : "j'adore Pattaya !" Et pour ce qui est de Bangkok, la cite des Anges, Ils disent : "j'adore Patpong !"
Finalement, Ils savent de quoi ils parlent puisque les "i-san" depuis quelques generations ont particulierement su participer en envoyant leurs progenitures au quatre coins du pays a la rencontre du touriste ?
Sous cet angle, on pourrait meme ajouter que la Chanson satirique de 1985 "Welcome to Thailand" du groupe "Carabao" a scellé le ciment ! 😉
Extrait traduit en francais : Venez, vite. Voyagez, Oubliez vos problemes, laissez les tomber. Le gouvernement a vraiment fait du bon boulot. Tout le monde est satisfait ! Quand on leur demande ce qu'ils aiment en Thailande, Les touristes repondent sans se gener : "j'adore Pattaya !" Et pour ce qui est de Bangkok, la cite des Anges, Ils disent : "j'adore Patpong !"
Finalement, Ils savent de quoi ils parlent puisque les "i-san" depuis quelques generations ont particulierement su participer en envoyant leurs progenitures au quatre coins du pays a la rencontre du touriste ?
"Un autre intervenant nous dit que les farang payent les entrées dans les parcs nationaux "peut-être 50 fois plus cher"!! Ben voyons!
pourquoi pas 1000 fois pendant que vous y êtes!
les thai payent en général 80 baht quand nous payons 400 baht ; ça fait 5 fois plus cher; "
........autant pour moi................j'ai jamais su compter......mais ca m'a sacrement surpris..............et c'etait la premiére fois (en 258 voyages aussi !!) que je voyais ça dans ce pays..........mais je ne m'en plaint pas (quoique que!!), on a toujours le choix de ne pas y aller dans les parcs............faut dire que 400 bahts ca fait cher pour voir des arbres....
........autant pour moi................j'ai jamais su compter......mais ca m'a sacrement surpris..............et c'etait la premiére fois (en 258 voyages aussi !!) que je voyais ça dans ce pays..........mais je ne m'en plaint pas (quoique que!!), on a toujours le choix de ne pas y aller dans les parcs............faut dire que 400 bahts ca fait cher pour voir des arbres....
Oui enfin bref tout ceux qui trouve ca normal que les prix augmentent (meme peut soit il) systematiquement tous les ans en Thailande, ont tors.Je comprends ceux qui se font arnaquer, parce que c'est le mot.Pourquoi allons nous en Thailande?Parce que c'est un depaysement a moindre frais, on vit tres bien pour tres peu d'argent!! Il est donc normal de critiquer ceux qui se foutent de notre gue...! Pourquoi existe il 3 prix pour un parcours en bus a ton avis "mida ottlnpac didier46 et les autres y'en a bcp qui ne savent pas...bref)?Pour faire payé au touriste le prix le plus cher!!Et oui les thai eux ne payeront jamais le maxi!! Et c'est pour bcp de choses comme ca.....comme la biere a 100THB ou va on, c'est le meme prix chez nous, pk faire 10000 bornes??c dommage c'etait tellement bien 10 ans en arriere....De toute facon la Thailande c fini, les thai ont prit le pli, ils savent qu'on a de l'argent, ils ont pris une grosse tete phenomenale donc tout augmente tous les ans quoi que vous pensez, car vous pensez mal.Phuket devient l'endroit le plus cher d'Asie du sud est.C'est fini, place a l'Indonesie (par exemple) ou la ils se foutent carrement moins de ta gueu..!!!!.Quoi kon dise, quand il parlent entre eux quand il y a un litige, c'est pour se fouttre de notre gueule, mais la plus part de vous, vous n'y etes allé que 1 ou 2 fois, c'est normal que vous ne voyez rien, laisser dire a ceux qui y vont tres souvent.
Bye (trop venere de conneries de certains une seule chose de juste dans ton texte c'est que nous profitons tous de la difference de niveau de vie entre nos 2 pays pour le reste tu as tout faux et tu es venere pour pas grand chose pour phuket c est normal que cela devienne cher c'est devenu un des haut lieux du tourisme mondial a juste raison parce que c'est magnifique et que beaucoup de gens et le gouv thai aussi y ont beaucoup investi, je ne vois pas beaucoup d endroits en asean qui peuvent rivaliser avec, surtout en indonesie, par exemple bali ca peut etre bien frustrant aussi.
pour revenir a un peu d'humour !
c'est plus facile d'être SDF en thailande qu'en france ?
cela fait il longtemps que tu es là bas ?
Oui quelques annees et pas uniquement en Thailande... 🙂
Par contre vivre sans domicile en sud-est asiatique, ne doit pas etre forcement mieux qu'en France (excepte le froid) ?
Et a ma connaissance puis jusqu'a preuve du contraire, il n'y a toujours pas de farangs qui couchent sous les ponts dans cette region de l'Asie ! 🤪
c'est plus facile d'être SDF en thailande qu'en france ?
cela fait il longtemps que tu es là bas ?
Oui quelques annees et pas uniquement en Thailande... 🙂
Par contre vivre sans domicile en sud-est asiatique, ne doit pas etre forcement mieux qu'en France (excepte le froid) ?
Et a ma connaissance puis jusqu'a preuve du contraire, il n'y a toujours pas de farangs qui couchent sous les ponts dans cette region de l'Asie ! 🤪
😏 Sur les plages oui, mais pas sous les ponts....😏
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
çà pue ton truc, là,
je me sauve reo, reo
Finalement, Ils savent de quoi ils parlent puisque les "i-san" depuis quelques generations ont particulierement su participer en envoyant leurs progenitures au quatre coins du pays a la rencontre du touriste ?
Finalement, Ils savent de quoi ils parlent puisque les "i-san" depuis quelques generations ont particulierement su participer en envoyant leurs progenitures au quatre coins du pays a la rencontre du touriste ?
juste pour t'informer je vais en thailande tous les ans depuis 7 ans doncje n suis pas celles qui disent n'importe koi
michele
çà pue ton truc, là,
je me sauve reo, reo
C'est le carrefour des explications !
Pourquoi vite, vite et a quel titre ? 😮 Et pourtant ce n'est pas ma femme qui m'a influencee puisqu'elle est "nua" et eux, ils ont aussi leurs soucis ... Mais bon, ce n'est pas parce qu'il fait froid qu'il faut mettre sa cagoule a l'envers ? Surtout devant un secret de polichinel a propos des farangs... 🙂
C'est le carrefour des explications !
Pourquoi vite, vite et a quel titre ? 😮 Et pourtant ce n'est pas ma femme qui m'a influencee puisqu'elle est "nua" et eux, ils ont aussi leurs soucis ... Mais bon, ce n'est pas parce qu'il fait froid qu'il faut mettre sa cagoule a l'envers ? Surtout devant un secret de polichinel a propos des farangs... 🙂
comprends pas tout !!!!!!!!!!!!!
ou je ne comprends que trop !!!
Surtout ne pas perdre la face... 😎
Surtout ne pas perdre la face... 😎
vous etes donc devenu de vrais asiatiques !!!!!
N'ayez aucun doute, je suis asiatique... Pourquoi cela pose probleme ? 😮
N'ayez aucun doute, je suis asiatique... Pourquoi cela pose probleme ? 😮
Moi non plus;
comprends pas tout!
C'est quoi qui pue? (entre autre)...
Les explications d'Observateur? Moi, je trouve qu'il a les pieds bien sur terre; parfois on s'accroche sur de petites choses; lui et moi parce qu'on n'a pas la même vision des choses...😉 c'est la vie, chacun est différent de l'autre...
Observateur habite en Thailande; l'autre, il bosse à Air machin et part en Thailande comme s'il allait à Mers les Bains (station balnéaire en vogue dans les années 30, pas loin d'Ault-Onival); ben oui, il ne paie que les taxes d'aéroport (environ 160 € l'A/R pour Bangkok!); et je le soupçonne de ne connaître que la partie superficielle de Pattaya, donc de ne pas connaître grand chose, en fait.
Mon pote jfbmons, tu te fais des idées sur les soi-disant aides que la France apporterait aux étrangers🙂🙂 ; la seule chose qu'elle leur apporte, c'est la plupart du temps un aller simple en charter pour leur pays d'origine...
De toutes façons, le post initial était mal barré; Montrer à un thai un bouquin écrit en anglais ou une carte routière..!!?!? Déjà que pas mal d'entre eux ne savent pas lire leur propre langue! Et lui faire remarquer que les prix ne correspondent pas à ceux qu'il vient de vous dire! Je prends le bus très souvent en Thailande, parfois j'ai le temps d'acheter le billet au guichet, d'autres fois, c'est au pied du car que je l'achète au chauffeur, assis à une petite table sur le quai.. mais jamais on m'a fait payer plus cher qu'un passager thai......
C'est le carrefour des explications !
Pourquoi vite, vite et a quel titre ?
comprends pas tout !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Les explications d'Observateur? Moi, je trouve qu'il a les pieds bien sur terre; parfois on s'accroche sur de petites choses; lui et moi parce qu'on n'a pas la même vision des choses...😉 c'est la vie, chacun est différent de l'autre...
Observateur habite en Thailande; l'autre, il bosse à Air machin et part en Thailande comme s'il allait à Mers les Bains (station balnéaire en vogue dans les années 30, pas loin d'Ault-Onival); ben oui, il ne paie que les taxes d'aéroport (environ 160 € l'A/R pour Bangkok!); et je le soupçonne de ne connaître que la partie superficielle de Pattaya, donc de ne pas connaître grand chose, en fait.
Mon pote jfbmons, tu te fais des idées sur les soi-disant aides que la France apporterait aux étrangers🙂🙂 ; la seule chose qu'elle leur apporte, c'est la plupart du temps un aller simple en charter pour leur pays d'origine...
De toutes façons, le post initial était mal barré; Montrer à un thai un bouquin écrit en anglais ou une carte routière..!!?!? Déjà que pas mal d'entre eux ne savent pas lire leur propre langue! Et lui faire remarquer que les prix ne correspondent pas à ceux qu'il vient de vous dire! Je prends le bus très souvent en Thailande, parfois j'ai le temps d'acheter le billet au guichet, d'autres fois, c'est au pied du car que je l'achète au chauffeur, assis à une petite table sur le quai.. mais jamais on m'a fait payer plus cher qu'un passager thai......
C'est le carrefour des explications !
Pourquoi vite, vite et a quel titre ?
comprends pas tout !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
parfois on s'accroche sur de petites choses; lui et moi parce qu'on n'a pas la même vision des choses...😉
c'est la vie, chacun est différent de l'autre...
Ah, je n'avais pas remarqué... 😕
Mais soyons positifs, les forums progressent d'année en année. Les esprits s'entrouvent a propos de la Thailande et ce n'est que mieux !
Evidemment, les photos des orphelinats locaux sont toujours aussi emouvantes. Mais bon, avec ma compagne nous y apportons egalement notre contribution et il est vrai que nous negligeons d'amener l'appareil photo pour mitrailler toutes ces vies. 🤪
A ce propos, pour les nombreux adeptes de Pattaya. Qu'ils prennent un peu de temps a aller visiter son refuge pour les enfants illegitimes, ils pourront apprendre un peu l'envers du decor... 🙂
Ah, je n'avais pas remarqué... 😕
Mais soyons positifs, les forums progressent d'année en année. Les esprits s'entrouvent a propos de la Thailande et ce n'est que mieux !
Evidemment, les photos des orphelinats locaux sont toujours aussi emouvantes. Mais bon, avec ma compagne nous y apportons egalement notre contribution et il est vrai que nous negligeons d'amener l'appareil photo pour mitrailler toutes ces vies. 🤪
A ce propos, pour les nombreux adeptes de Pattaya. Qu'ils prennent un peu de temps a aller visiter son refuge pour les enfants illegitimes, ils pourront apprendre un peu l'envers du decor... 🙂
Si la Thailande à quelques riches ils sont absent des très riches, les plus de 1 milliards de USD p.exemple...
Les grands voyageurs sont ceux qui se perdent
Si la Thailande à quelques riches ils sont absent des très riches, les plus de 1 milliards de USD p.exemple...
En etes-vous sur ?
Car le PNB est une chose et les comptes en banque une autre... En Thailande, il est normalement impossible d'avoir un regard la dessus (loi banquaire) ! N'imaginons pas que les fortunes en Thailande se sont construites uniquement par l'exportation de fruits, legumes, crevettes ou fleurs. Et meme si le pays est dans les premiers rangs mondiaux pour la fourniture automobile asiatique.
Aucune grande richesse de ce pays n'echappe aux dividendes de la drogue, de l'industrie du sexe, du traffic d'arme, du blanchiment de devises, etc...
Et sous la benediction des grandes puissances etrangeres qui ont pignon au siege de l'ONU. Si ce n'etait le cas, il y aurait bien longtemps que le territoire aurait ete mis a l'index ! 🙂
En etes-vous sur ?
Car le PNB est une chose et les comptes en banque une autre... En Thailande, il est normalement impossible d'avoir un regard la dessus (loi banquaire) ! N'imaginons pas que les fortunes en Thailande se sont construites uniquement par l'exportation de fruits, legumes, crevettes ou fleurs. Et meme si le pays est dans les premiers rangs mondiaux pour la fourniture automobile asiatique.
Aucune grande richesse de ce pays n'echappe aux dividendes de la drogue, de l'industrie du sexe, du traffic d'arme, du blanchiment de devises, etc...
Et sous la benediction des grandes puissances etrangeres qui ont pignon au siege de l'ONU. Si ce n'etait le cas, il y aurait bien longtemps que le territoire aurait ete mis a l'index ! 🙂
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Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
Hi there,
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Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
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Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
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Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
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Thanks! 🙂
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Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
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So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
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I’d love to hear your advice.
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Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
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Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks