Tir à balles réelles à Bangkok? (10 avril 2010)
by Avantis
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Que faut il en penser? A entendre certains qui affirment qu'il ne se passe rien j'avoue ne plus comprendre
Qui a tiré sur qui?
Pour moi c'est bien le début de ce que l'on appelle une guerre civile!
Et vous qu'en pensez vous?
Apparemment, il s'agissait de coups de feu en l'air, au cours des echafourees entre policiers et manidfestants...
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/actualite/monde/20100410.OBS2196/thailande-plus-de-90-blesses-lors-de-nouveaux-heurts.html
pour les néofites..
qui sont les gentils les rouges ou les jaunes ???
merci...
la bonne taille c' est quand les deux pieds touchent par terre!!
Pour ces messieurs, la moralité devient rigide quand le reste ne l'est plus." coluche !!!
http://02moisenasiebyfuncky062.blogspot.com/
http://montripde03moisenasiedusudest.blogspot.com/
J'en pense que ça va faire un nouvel espace de discussion et de polémique pour les activistes politiques qui sévissent déjà sur des sujets similaires sur VF.😠
Quant aux événements proprement dits, je dirais "wait and see", parce que ca peut rentrer dans l'ordre demain comme dégénérer. Songkran va être très révélateur.
soyons désinvoltes, n'ayons l'air de rien.
pour les néofites..
qui sont les gentils les rouges ou les jaunes ???
merci...
Y a pas de gentils, y a pas de méchants. Il n'y a que des manipulateurs et des manipulés, dans les 2 camps. Comme dit précédemment: wait and see 😐
Y a pas de gentils, y a pas de méchants. Il n'y a que des manipulateurs et des manipulés, dans les 2 camps. Comme dit précédemment: wait and see 😐
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
pour les néofites..
qui sont les gentils les rouges ou les jaunes ???
merci...
Coucou
On ne peut pas dire les uns sont tous vilains et les autres tous gentils :
Les rouges sont partisans de Thaksin ancien 1er ministre renversé du pouvoir et desormais exilé pour eviter la prison , les jaunes sont plus pour la democratie "normale" mais n'ont pas gagné les élections et se sont emparés du pouvoir d'une maniere particuliere.
Je pense que nous en tant qu'exterieurs a ce pays on ne peut comprendre toute la subtilité des gouvernements successifs.
Une chose est sure , personne ne semble vouloir plier et au vu des affrontements d'aujourd'hui l'image de la Thailande est encore une fois associée a la violence et a l'instabilité. L'economie de ce pays est tres lié au tourisme ils sont en train de se tirer une balle dans le pied ( des 2 cotés d'ailleurs)
cioa ciao
Coucou
On ne peut pas dire les uns sont tous vilains et les autres tous gentils :
Les rouges sont partisans de Thaksin ancien 1er ministre renversé du pouvoir et desormais exilé pour eviter la prison , les jaunes sont plus pour la democratie "normale" mais n'ont pas gagné les élections et se sont emparés du pouvoir d'une maniere particuliere.
Je pense que nous en tant qu'exterieurs a ce pays on ne peut comprendre toute la subtilité des gouvernements successifs.
Une chose est sure , personne ne semble vouloir plier et au vu des affrontements d'aujourd'hui l'image de la Thailande est encore une fois associée a la violence et a l'instabilité. L'economie de ce pays est tres lié au tourisme ils sont en train de se tirer une balle dans le pied ( des 2 cotés d'ailleurs)
cioa ciao
Mai Pen Rai attitude !!!
ok .. pas bon pour le tourisme et le commerce...🙁
remarque peut etre les billet d avion vont baisser dans quelques temps...
a suivre sur le net...
la bonne taille c' est quand les deux pieds touchent par terre!!
Pour ces messieurs, la moralité devient rigide quand le reste ne l'est plus." coluche !!!
http://02moisenasiebyfuncky062.blogspot.com/
http://montripde03moisenasiedusudest.blogspot.com/
Coucou
Oui c'est possible mais j'en doute car je me souviens que lors du blocage en 2008 c'etait l'inverse qui s'etait produit , les compagnies avaient augmenter le prix des billets pour couvrir les pertes liés a l'absence des passagers.
Ciao ciao
Oui c'est possible mais j'en doute car je me souviens que lors du blocage en 2008 c'etait l'inverse qui s'etait produit , les compagnies avaient augmenter le prix des billets pour couvrir les pertes liés a l'absence des passagers.
Ciao ciao
Mai Pen Rai attitude !!!
Je rentre ce matin, j'ai fini par 3 jour au Pathumwan princess le grand Hôtel accolé au MBK, ben j'y ai fait mes courses après chaque voyage, le seul ouvert (MBK) Siam Paragon, Siam Center , Siam Dicovery, Central Childlom et World tous fermé , coûte bonbon !! Par contre sans polémiquer, saviez-vous que les maifestants rouge touchent 1000 Bath par jour pour manifester, qui manipule qui (LOL)
J'aime ce pays et vivement Noël pour la prochaine fois, bonne journée
J'aime ce pays et vivement Noël pour la prochaine fois, bonne journée
Je rentre ce matin, j'ai fini par 3 jour au Pathumwan princess le grand Hôtel accolé au MBK, ben j'y ai fait mes courses après chaque voyage, le seul ouvert (MBK) Siam Paragon, Siam Center , Siam Dicovery, Central Childlom et World tous fermé , coûte bonbon !! Par contre sans polémiquer, saviez-vous que les maifestants rouge touchent 1000 Bath par jour pour manifester, qui manipule qui (LOL)
J'aime ce pays et vivement Noël pour la prochaine fois, bonne journée
J'avais entendu au tout debut qu'ils avaient un forfait de 2000 baht. Depuis ca a changé apparemment donc. Merci de l'info
J'aime ce pays et vivement Noël pour la prochaine fois, bonne journée
J'avais entendu au tout debut qu'ils avaient un forfait de 2000 baht. Depuis ca a changé apparemment donc. Merci de l'info
Mai Pen Rai attitude !!!
Pour moi c'est bien le début de ce que l'on appelle une guerre civile!
Et vous qu'en pensez vous?
RIEN et oser parler de guerre civile relève de la bétise 😛 : le terme politique suffit largement.
Et dans l'ideal, évitons ce genre de posts sans interet.... juste bon a entrainer des polémiques INUTILES ET STERILES
RIEN et oser parler de guerre civile relève de la bétise 😛 : le terme politique suffit largement.
Et dans l'ideal, évitons ce genre de posts sans interet.... juste bon a entrainer des polémiques INUTILES ET STERILES
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Pour moi c'est bien le début de ce que l'on appelle une guerre civile!
Et vous qu'en pensez vous?
RIEN et oser parler de guerre civile relève de la bétise 😛 : le terme politique suffit largement.
Et dans l'ideal, évitons ce genre de posts sans interet.... juste bon a entrainer des polémiques INUTILES ET STERILES
C'est pas bete comme idee :)
RIEN et oser parler de guerre civile relève de la bétise 😛 : le terme politique suffit largement.
Et dans l'ideal, évitons ce genre de posts sans interet.... juste bon a entrainer des polémiques INUTILES ET STERILES
C'est pas bete comme idee :)
Mai Pen Rai attitude !!!
pas bon pour le tourisme et le commerce...🙁
C'est important, bien sur, mais ce n'est pas non plus l'alpha et l'omega pour une societe, si? La politique suscite aussi ses propres enjeux... Je pense que le mouvement populaire auquel on assiste actuellement ne se reduit pas a une question de manip' (meme si il y a toujours des interets particuliers qui s'en melent) : il est aussi revelateur de deplacements tectoniques tres profonds au sein de la societe thailandaise, a mon avis.
C'est important, bien sur, mais ce n'est pas non plus l'alpha et l'omega pour une societe, si? La politique suscite aussi ses propres enjeux... Je pense que le mouvement populaire auquel on assiste actuellement ne se reduit pas a une question de manip' (meme si il y a toujours des interets particuliers qui s'en melent) : il est aussi revelateur de deplacements tectoniques tres profonds au sein de la societe thailandaise, a mon avis.
Par contre sans polémiquer, saviez-vous que les maifestants rouge touchent 1000 Bath par jour pour manifester, qui manipule qui
La quasi totalité des manifestants est rémunérée 300 Nbahts par jour (nourris et logés !) et certains montent à 1 000 bahts (encadrement) : mais des que la pluie va tomber ils remonteront pour les récoltes... 😛 Et 2 000 Bahts c'est plus que le salaire quotidien d'un ingénieur... 😛
La quasi totalité des manifestants est rémunérée 300 Nbahts par jour (nourris et logés !) et certains montent à 1 000 bahts (encadrement) : mais des que la pluie va tomber ils remonteront pour les récoltes... 😛 Et 2 000 Bahts c'est plus que le salaire quotidien d'un ingénieur... 😛
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Pas sur qu' ils augmentent, les billets ...
En mars 2009, je suis parti pour 619 euros par Etihad ( réservé en Janvier ), et cette année pour la meme période, c' était plutot environ 700 / 750 avec la meme compagnie ...
😏 les farangs qui se chamaillent a cause des thais qui se battent
si ca vous dit venez donc a pratunam ce soir , pour la veillée. vous serez aux premieres loges.
sans facon, nous on commente betement , on refait le monde au coin d'un bar, mais on va pas en plus aller dans le coeur d'une manif qui nous concerne pas, pour prendre une grenade ou une balle perdu ;p
quoique pour un ptit somtam pala offert gracieusement , je me laisserais tenter de venir =)
si ca vous dit venez donc a pratunam ce soir , pour la veillée. vous serez aux premieres loges.
sans facon, nous on commente betement , on refait le monde au coin d'un bar, mais on va pas en plus aller dans le coeur d'une manif qui nous concerne pas, pour prendre une grenade ou une balle perdu ;p
quoique pour un ptit somtam pala offert gracieusement , je me laisserais tenter de venir =)
C'est vraix qu'a l'heure actuelle on es l'on de la guerre civil mais pour dire vraix a l'heurre actuel je suis dans un cyber cafe entrain d'ecrire ce post et le boss vient de fermer les stores, et une troupe de soldat vient de defiler devant le cyber, poursuivant une troupe de red shirt qui venait de leur lancer un coctail molotov, je sui a khao san, vraiment je pense que ca commence a degnerer serieusement, le seul conseil que je peut donner ""actuellement c'est de ne pas venir sejourner a bangkok pour le moment, ca craint vraiment " aujourd hui tout etait fermer, le mbk a fermer a 18h bref si vous aviez planifier le nouvel ans thai a bangkok changer d'itineraire, pour ma part je retourne a phuket, demain.
Ben
Ben
L'armée intervient à Bangkok, troubles dans le nord du pays , voir ICI . Oui tu as raison vaut mieux aller à Phuket .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
a l'heure actuelle on est l'on de la guerre civil
Et pourtant, la guerre a été déclarée par "les Rouges" depuis un bon moment !
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1044537/1/.html
🙂
Les troupes tirent aux balles caoutchouc, les émeutiers ripostent avec des balles réelles :
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Thai-PBS-says-protesters-return-gunfire-at-troops-30126949.html
Et pourtant, la guerre a été déclarée par "les Rouges" depuis un bon moment !
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1044537/1/.html
🙂
Les troupes tirent aux balles caoutchouc, les émeutiers ripostent avec des balles réelles :
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Thai-PBS-says-protesters-return-gunfire-at-troops-30126949.html
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Je pense que l'on peut féliciter ceux qui insistaient ici sur le côté "pacifique"
de ces manifs' ...
Une telle clairvoyance est rare, il faut espérer que pas un voyageur n'a tenu compte de leurs élucubrations !
😕
Une telle clairvoyance est rare, il faut espérer que pas un voyageur n'a tenu compte de leurs élucubrations !
😕
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Je pense que l'on peut féliciter ceux qui insistaient ici sur le côté "pacifique"
de ces manifs' ...
Une telle clairvoyance est rare, il faut espérer que pas un voyageur n'a tenu compte de leurs élucubrations !
😕
chaque personne qui avait peur, a tjrs ete conseiller d'eviter toutes manif , ou zone de manif, je suis actuelement en thailande, loin des manifs et je me sens pas du tout en danger....
et y'a t'il un communiquer officiel pour la mort de ses 2 falang ? je vois cette infos nulpars..
Une telle clairvoyance est rare, il faut espérer que pas un voyageur n'a tenu compte de leurs élucubrations !
😕
chaque personne qui avait peur, a tjrs ete conseiller d'eviter toutes manif , ou zone de manif, je suis actuelement en thailande, loin des manifs et je me sens pas du tout en danger....
et y'a t'il un communiquer officiel pour la mort de ses 2 falang ? je vois cette infos nulpars..
En veriter, c'est ce que j'ai entendu dans la rue, mais les manifestation sont serieuse, mieux vaut ne pas se trouver dedans.
Sur les elucubration, pacisfiste, je pense quand disant certain, vous pensiez a moi, faut juste remetre de l'ordre dans les dates. faut t'il dire de ne pas venir a paris parce qu'en mai 1968 il as eu une revolution? j'exagere mais la situtation as empirer, mais je supose que vous saviez deja la fin des evenements, d'ailleurs madame soleil que vas t'il se passer demain??
Sur les elucubration, pacisfiste, je pense quand disant certain, vous pensiez a moi, faut juste remetre de l'ordre dans les dates. faut t'il dire de ne pas venir a paris parce qu'en mai 1968 il as eu une revolution? j'exagere mais la situtation as empirer, mais je supose que vous saviez deja la fin des evenements, d'ailleurs madame soleil que vas t'il se passer demain??
En veriter, c'est ce que j'ai entendu dans la rue, mais les manifestation sont serieuse, mieux vaut ne pas se trouver dedans.
Sur les elucubration, pacisfiste, je pense quand disant certain, vous pensiez a moi, faut juste remetre de l'ordre dans les dates. faut t'il dire de ne pas venir a paris parce qu'en mai 1968 il as eu une revolution? j'exagere mais la situtation as empirer, mais je supose que vous saviez deja la fin des evenements, d'ailleurs madame soleil que vas t'il se passer demain??
donc des rumeurs pour effrayer ou attiser l'huile sur le feu....
evite svp de colporter ce genre de rumeur....
un haut grader a annoncer en direct a la TV que l'armee et la police se repliait .
Sur les elucubration, pacisfiste, je pense quand disant certain, vous pensiez a moi, faut juste remetre de l'ordre dans les dates. faut t'il dire de ne pas venir a paris parce qu'en mai 1968 il as eu une revolution? j'exagere mais la situtation as empirer, mais je supose que vous saviez deja la fin des evenements, d'ailleurs madame soleil que vas t'il se passer demain??
donc des rumeurs pour effrayer ou attiser l'huile sur le feu....
evite svp de colporter ce genre de rumeur....
un haut grader a annoncer en direct a la TV que l'armee et la police se repliait .
tiens le M79 est de retour ce soir sur le siège du gouvernement (encore un acte de personnes très courageuse😠)
Govt House hit by M79:http://www.nationmultimedia.com/...by-M79-30126953.html
pour ceux qui ne savent pas, voici des images d'un m79
http://world.guns.ru/grenade/gl06-e.htm
je condamne la VIOLENCE!!!! voila c'est dit!!!!!
pour ceux qui ne savent pas, voici des images d'un m79
http://world.guns.ru/grenade/gl06-e.htm
je condamne la VIOLENCE!!!! voila c'est dit!!!!!
Thaïlande: les militaires se retirent face aux manifestants BANGKOK - Les militaires vont se retirer de la vieille ville de Bangkok, où ils s'affrontaient samedi aux chemises rouges, manifestants qui réclament la démission du Premier ministre, a indiqué à l'AFP le chef de l'armée, Anupong Paojinda.
La décision a été prise alors que depuis le début de l'après-midi les heurts devenaient très violents entre les "rouges", partisans de l'ex-Premier ministre Thaksin Shinawatra, et les forces de l'ordre, qui avaient entrepris de reconquérir un quartier occupé depuis la mi-mars.
"Les soldats vont devoir se retirer, il n'y a aucun endroit pour se protéger. On ne peut rien faire", a déclaré le général Anupong à l'AFP.
"On ne peut rien faire parce qu'on ne peut pas tirer sur le peuple", a confirmé peu après le ministre de la Défense, le général Prawit Wongsuwon.
Plus de 220 personnes ont été blessées dans des heurts dans la capitale thaïlandaise, où les forces de l'ordre ont tenté de reprendre le contrôle de ce quartier.
http://www.romandie.com/ats/news/100410141751.gsgodbi2.asp
http://www.romandie.com/ats/news/100410141751.gsgodbi2.asp
donc des rumeurs pour effrayer ou attiser l'huile sur le feu....
Ben non, je répète : Les manifestants on déclaré LA GUERRE le 19 Mars ...
Cà fait un bout de temps déjà, c'était très facile de prédire que çà allait "barder" à un moment ou à un autre !
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/04/09/opinion/Prepare-for-a-showdown-clashes-seem-inevitable-now-30126736.html
🙂
Ben non, je répète : Les manifestants on déclaré LA GUERRE le 19 Mars ...
Cà fait un bout de temps déjà, c'était très facile de prédire que çà allait "barder" à un moment ou à un autre !
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/04/09/opinion/Prepare-for-a-showdown-clashes-seem-inevitable-now-30126736.html
🙂
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
T'es obligé d'écrire en gros comme ça à chaque fois ? on dirait un pseudo reporter tout excité d'assister à un évènement extraordinaire dans sa vie, ou alors qui prend un malin plaisir à vider le royaume des touristes en leur faisant peur...
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Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
D'après les infos de 21h30 il n'y aurait qu'un rouge de mort, ils ne parlent pas de farangs tués, il y a en tout 200 blessés de part et d'autre, et on ne parle pas que les rouges tirent
à balle réelle. Bref c'est le bord.....à éviter, bien que je viens de voir des farangs en train de
faire des belles photos......
christmi
D'après les infos de 21h30 il n'y aurait qu'un rouge de mort, ils ne parlent pas de farangs tués, il y a en tout 200 blessés de part et d'autre, et on ne parle pas que les rouges tirent
à balle réelle. Bref c'est le bord.....à éviter, bien que je viens de voir des farangs en train de
faire des belles photos......
à ce sujet, attention, 'âmes sensibles s'abstenir :
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-430942
(beaucoup mieux que l'excité Waithai)
Site que je suis depuis le lien donné par Sawadee.
à ce sujet, attention, 'âmes sensibles s'abstenir :
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-430942
(beaucoup mieux que l'excité Waithai)
Site que je suis depuis le lien donné par Sawadee.
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Un allemand blessé qui travaille pour un journal + 1 journaliste japonais tué
ils n'étaient la que pour leur boulot...
En tout 5 morts à 22h
j'ai l'impression que cette discussion est bloquée sur le forum, est-ce que je me trompe?
christmi
et ça cela s'appelle comment? monsieur le donneur de leçon
Huit personnes auraient été tuées
dans les heurts à Bangkok
dans les heurts à Bangkok
T'es obligé d'écrire en gros comme ça à chaque fois ? on dirait un pseudo reporter tout excité d'assister à un évènement extraordinaire dans sa vie, ou alors qui prend un malin plaisir à vider le royaume des touristes en leur faisant peur...
+ 1 !! VOILA QUI EST BIEN DIT et peut s'appliquer a quelques autres......
+ 1 !! VOILA QUI EST BIEN DIT et peut s'appliquer a quelques autres......
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
et ça cela s'appelle comment? monsieur le donneur de leçon
Huit personnes auraient été tuées dans les heurts à Bangkok
AURAIENT ou ont été ? Bref se faire peur à bon compte... 😛
AURAIENT ou ont été ? Bref se faire peur à bon compte... 😛
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
donc des rumeurs pour effrayer ou attiser l'huile sur le feu....
evite svp de colporter ce genre de rumeur....
Un journaliste japonais de l'agence Reuter est mort http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/04/10/politics/Clashes-claim-at-least-eight-lives-Erawan-center-30126961.html
evite svp de colporter ce genre de rumeur....
Un journaliste japonais de l'agence Reuter est mort http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/04/10/politics/Clashes-claim-at-least-eight-lives-Erawan-center-30126961.html
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
Hello Sir Boumbastic.............
Standoff at Ploenchit BTS StationDaily Photos from Thailand
Saturday 10th April, 2010 at 21:10:59| Words: 79 words | Category: News Photos
Hundreds of riot police were deployed at Ploenchit Intersection, underneath the sky train station, while red shirts leaders called for the protesters to form barricades to counter police. Meanwhile, dozens of foreign tourists and local Thai people watched the stand-off from the pedestrian bridge above. BTS had suspended all of their train services and many tourists were left stranded in a war zone. The stand-off lasted for several hours until finally the police retreated. (Richard Barrow/www.richardbarrow.com)

Hundreds of riot police were deployed at Ploenchit Intersection, underneath the sky train station, while red shirts leaders called for the protesters to form barricades to counter police. Meanwhile, dozens of foreign tourists and local Thai people watched the stand-off from the pedestrian bridge above. BTS had suspended all of their train services and many tourists were left stranded in a war zone. The stand-off lasted for several hours until finally the police retreated. (Richard Barrow/www.richardbarrow.com)

AURAIENT ou ont été ? Bref se faire peur à bon compte... 😛
D'après la télé thaie, c'est 9 morts.....
D'après la télé thaie, c'est 9 morts.....
profitons de cette vie si courte!!! Ao sanuk mak mak touk touk wan. (I wanna enjoy life everyday)
Sawasdee krap khun Salsa.......
Apr 11 At Least 9 Deaths in Bangkok Street BattlesDaily Photos from Thailand Sunday 11th April, 2010 at 00:07:28| Words: 83 words | Category: News Photos
Nine people have been killed and 300 hurt in clashes in Thailand's capital, Bangkok, as troops tried to retake areas from anti-government protesters. Soldiers and police fired tear gas and rubber bullets as they advanced after dusk on the red-shirt protesters, who responded by throwing petrol bombs. The army has now called for a truce, saying its troops have retreated. The protesters, who want the government to call new elections, have been camped out in parts of the city for a month. (BBC/Reuters)
Apr 11 At Least 9 Deaths in Bangkok Street BattlesDaily Photos from Thailand Sunday 11th April, 2010 at 00:07:28| Words: 83 words | Category: News Photos
Nine people have been killed and 300 hurt in clashes in Thailand's capital, Bangkok, as troops tried to retake areas from anti-government protesters. Soldiers and police fired tear gas and rubber bullets as they advanced after dusk on the red-shirt protesters, who responded by throwing petrol bombs. The army has now called for a truce, saying its troops have retreated. The protesters, who want the government to call new elections, have been camped out in parts of the city for a month. (BBC/Reuters)Est-ce que Mengwan pourrait avoir la decence de nous epargner sa propagande...
Une seule réponse: quand on cherche l'affrontement, on le trouve. L'état d'urgence, c'est l'ordre public géré par les Militaires, et on ne tergiverse plus du tout.
On compte 250 blessés et de 7 à 9 morts, principalement dans les forces de l'ordre et les Rouges. Les victimes étrangères faisaient leur boulot de reportage.
Un seul conseil: se tenir éloigné impérativement des lieux de l'affrontement.
Certaines stations du BTS sont fermées, et je pense que certains quartiers vont être totalement bouclés.
Personne n'évitera les 2 abrutis de VF à continuer de polémiquer en disant que leurs morts sont les bons, et leurs messages n'ont aucune importance.
On compte 250 blessés et de 7 à 9 morts, principalement dans les forces de l'ordre et les Rouges. Les victimes étrangères faisaient leur boulot de reportage.
Un seul conseil: se tenir éloigné impérativement des lieux de l'affrontement.
Certaines stations du BTS sont fermées, et je pense que certains quartiers vont être totalement bouclés.
Personne n'évitera les 2 abrutis de VF à continuer de polémiquer en disant que leurs morts sont les bons, et leurs messages n'ont aucune importance.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Est-ce que Mengwan pourrait avoir la decence de nous epargner sa propagande...
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"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
AFP | 10.04.2010 | 18:00
"Neuf personnes ont été tuées. Il s'agit de quatre soldats, de quatre civils et d'un journaliste", a déclaré Malinee Sukvechavorakit. Une télévision thaïlandaise avait déjà annoncé la mort d'un caméraman japonais, dans des conditions non précisées. Selon les services de secours, au moins 500 personnes ont été blessées dans ces affrontements. Samedi soir, l'armée a demandé une "trêve", constatant qu'elle ne parvenait pas à prendre le dessus sur les "chemises rouges", favorables à l'ex-Premier ministre Thaksin Shinawatra.
"Neuf personnes ont été tuées. Il s'agit de quatre soldats, de quatre civils et d'un journaliste", a déclaré Malinee Sukvechavorakit. Une télévision thaïlandaise avait déjà annoncé la mort d'un caméraman japonais, dans des conditions non précisées. Selon les services de secours, au moins 500 personnes ont été blessées dans ces affrontements. Samedi soir, l'armée a demandé une "trêve", constatant qu'elle ne parvenait pas à prendre le dessus sur les "chemises rouges", favorables à l'ex-Premier ministre Thaksin Shinawatra.
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Apr 10 More than 130 injured in Bangkok clashesDaily Photos from Thailand Saturday 10th April, 2010 at 20:43:53| Words: 244 words | Category: News Photos
A Thai soldier aims his shotgun at anti-government "red shirt" protesters during clashes in central Bangkok April 10, 2010. Scores of Thai anti-government protesters tried to force their way into an army base in Bangkok on Saturday but were repelled by water cannon, as their leaders vowed to carry on their fight for new elections. (Reuters)
An anti-government "red shirt" protester holds his left arm moments after being wounded during clashes with Thai security forces in central Bangkok April 10, 2010. Thai troops fired rubber bullets at opposition "red shirts" on Saturday as they moved in to clear a protest site in Bangkok in the biggest confrontation in the month-long campaign for new elections, witnesses said. (Reuters)
Thai soldiers fire their weapons at anti-government "red shirt" protesters during clashes in central Bangkok April 10, 2010. Thai troops fired rubber bullets at opposition "red shirts" on Saturday as they moved in to clear a protest site in Bangkok in the biggest confrontation in the month-long campaign for new elections, witnesses said. (Reuters)
An injured red-shirted supporter of former Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra is taken away by his comrades after being injured in continued clashes with Thai soldiers near Government House in Bangkok on April 10, 2010. Gunshots were heard in the Thai capital Bangkok as anti-government protesters clashed with security forces, according to an AFP reporter at the scene. More than 130 people have been injured in clashes between anti-government protesters and security forces in the Thai capital Bangkok, emergency services said. (Getty Images)
By Agence France-Presse, Updated: 4/10/2010
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An anti-government "Red Shirt" protester was killed in Saturday clashes with Thai security forces in the capital, the director of Bangkok General Hospital told AFP. "Sawat Wa-ngam, a 43-year-old Red Shirt protester died. I suspect he was hit by a hard object, " said Pijaya Nagavajara, director of the hospital near the clash site. One of the Red Shirt leaders, Nattawut Saikur, told AFP that two protesters were killed in the confrontation, which injured at least 240 people. .............................................................................................................
The dead victims include four civilians and four soldiers, Bangkok's deputy governor Malinee Sukavrejworakit said. One of the victims is a Japanese cameraman, according to hospital officials. Hiro Muramoto, a 43-year-old Japanese national who had worked for Thomson Reuters in Tokyo for more than 15 years and had arrived in Bangkok on Thursday to cover the protests.
Apr 10 More than 130 injured in Bangkok clashesDaily Photos from Thailand Saturday 10th April, 2010 at 20:43:53| Words: 244 words | Category: News Photos
A Thai soldier aims his shotgun at anti-government "red shirt" protesters during clashes in central Bangkok April 10, 2010. Scores of Thai anti-government protesters tried to force their way into an army base in Bangkok on Saturday but were repelled by water cannon, as their leaders vowed to carry on their fight for new elections. (Reuters)
An anti-government "red shirt" protester holds his left arm moments after being wounded during clashes with Thai security forces in central Bangkok April 10, 2010. Thai troops fired rubber bullets at opposition "red shirts" on Saturday as they moved in to clear a protest site in Bangkok in the biggest confrontation in the month-long campaign for new elections, witnesses said. (Reuters)
Thai soldiers fire their weapons at anti-government "red shirt" protesters during clashes in central Bangkok April 10, 2010. Thai troops fired rubber bullets at opposition "red shirts" on Saturday as they moved in to clear a protest site in Bangkok in the biggest confrontation in the month-long campaign for new elections, witnesses said. (Reuters)
An injured red-shirted supporter of former Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra is taken away by his comrades after being injured in continued clashes with Thai soldiers near Government House in Bangkok on April 10, 2010. Gunshots were heard in the Thai capital Bangkok as anti-government protesters clashed with security forces, according to an AFP reporter at the scene. More than 130 people have been injured in clashes between anti-government protesters and security forces in the Thai capital Bangkok, emergency services said. (Getty Images)
By Agence France-Presse, Updated: 4/10/2010
.................................................................................................................An anti-government "Red Shirt" protester was killed in Saturday clashes with Thai security forces in the capital, the director of Bangkok General Hospital told AFP. "Sawat Wa-ngam, a 43-year-old Red Shirt protester died. I suspect he was hit by a hard object, " said Pijaya Nagavajara, director of the hospital near the clash site. One of the Red Shirt leaders, Nattawut Saikur, told AFP that two protesters were killed in the confrontation, which injured at least 240 people. .............................................................................................................
The dead victims include four civilians and four soldiers, Bangkok's deputy governor Malinee Sukavrejworakit said. One of the victims is a Japanese cameraman, according to hospital officials. Hiro Muramoto, a 43-year-old Japanese national who had worked for Thomson Reuters in Tokyo for more than 15 years and had arrived in Bangkok on Thursday to cover the protests.
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Bonjour
Apres 1 nuit à Khao Sok je souhaite trouver un package 2 Jours 1 nuit sur le lac.
Après avoir beaucoup lu, je décide de "casser la tirelire" et nous offrir un tour Privé surtout pour éviter les bains de foule.
Mais en contactant plusieurs opérators, on me propose des "private tours" très chers (env 700 €) mais dans les détails les bateaux ne peuvent que partir de l'embarcadère à 10h du mat comme tous les autres. (Moi j'espérais partir très tôt). Le programme du matin est le même pour tt le monde aussi (privé ou non). On nous dépose à Midi à notre hotel flottant (j'avais choisi le Phupha waree). Après midi libre (baignade ou kayak devant l'hotel. On resort en bateau pour le coucher de soleil 1h. Et le matin on quitte l'hotel à 8h pour être à l'embarcadere à 9h30 max FIN du voyage
Donc en fait on paye cher un Private tour pour faire la mm chose que tt le monde et en mm temps.
Ou alors je suis mal tombé dans mes recherches. J'ai contacté Panida Ladi très populaire sur les forums . On s'était mis d'accord sur un circuit privé qui collait a ma demande (départ de l'embarcadere à 8h00....., circuit très personalisé). On s'est mis d'accord sur le circuit et le prix, m'a demandé un virement par wise pour un acompte de 30%, a confirmé la réception de l'acompte . Puis 30mn plus tard m'a envoyé un message pour me dire qu'elle annulait tout car il lui était impossible de faire le tour demandé, et m'a promis le remboursement rapide de mon acompte.
J'en viens donc à ma demande : Qui a fait un vrai tour privé sur ce lac ? Qui peut me conseiller une agence sérieuse ? Est il vraiment possible de faire un tour privé en fait sur ce lac....
Merci PS Mon projet est pour novembre
Donc en fait on paye cher un Private tour pour faire la mm chose que tt le monde et en mm temps.
Ou alors je suis mal tombé dans mes recherches. J'ai contacté Panida Ladi très populaire sur les forums . On s'était mis d'accord sur un circuit privé qui collait a ma demande (départ de l'embarcadere à 8h00....., circuit très personalisé). On s'est mis d'accord sur le circuit et le prix, m'a demandé un virement par wise pour un acompte de 30%, a confirmé la réception de l'acompte . Puis 30mn plus tard m'a envoyé un message pour me dire qu'elle annulait tout car il lui était impossible de faire le tour demandé, et m'a promis le remboursement rapide de mon acompte.
J'en viens donc à ma demande : Qui a fait un vrai tour privé sur ce lac ? Qui peut me conseiller une agence sérieuse ? Est il vraiment possible de faire un tour privé en fait sur ce lac....
Merci PS Mon projet est pour novembre
Bonjour,
Je voulais avoir des informations sur le télépherique et le pont , je vois pleins d'options differentes ..
Combien de temps prévoir pour faire ces 2 activités ? Si on arrive vers 16h as t'on le temps de visiter sans courir?
Merci
Bonjour à tous, me voilà revenue sur le forum.
Je cherche la perle rare pour mon 3eme séjour sur Koh Lanta : un bel hotel qualitatif au bord d' une plage facile d'accès dans un endroit animé. Si vous connaissez quelque chose qui s'apparente à ma recherche et que vous souhaitez partager n' hésitez pas.
Merci beaucoup
Marsyork
Je cherche la perle rare pour mon 3eme séjour sur Koh Lanta : un bel hotel qualitatif au bord d' une plage facile d'accès dans un endroit animé. Si vous connaissez quelque chose qui s'apparente à ma recherche et que vous souhaitez partager n' hésitez pas.
Merci beaucoup
Marsyork
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Bonjour je souhaite diviser mon séjour en 2 parties soit 15 jours à phuket et 15 jours sur krabi. Savez-vous si je peux louer une voiture et la rendre a krabi lors de mon retour en France
Merci de vos retours
Bon dimanche
Martine
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Bonjour précieuse communauté,
J'envisage de me rendre au Cambodge cet hiver, juste après Noël, pour un premier voyage seule, et mon premier voyage en Asie. Pour deux semaines (oui, je sais, c'est peu, mais je ne peux vraiment pas plus...). J'ai deux grandes envies: Siem Reap, et la campagne, les villages, le Mekong...
Que pensez-vous de cet itinéraire? Arrivée à Siem Reap, départ de Phnom Penh
SR: 5 jours (1 jour pour l'arrivée, 3 pour les temples, 1 pour le lac et ses villages)
Kratie (étape sur la route du Mondolkiri): 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours sur place)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 jours (1 jour de trajet, 1 jour sur place, 2 jours de treks)
PP: 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours de visite)
Je pense qu'il faut que j'enlève un jour quelque part, si je pars du samedi au samedi, ou du dimanche au dimanche. A Kratie, peut-être? à PP? et je rate le trajet en bateau que tout le monde conseille (SR-Battambang), mais je ne vois pas où le caser. Sauf à faire un PP-PP en commençant par l'est, laisser tomber Kratie ou vraiment juste une nuit, puis SR, puis PP).
Dans mon timing, j'ai l'impression que le Mondolkiri est plus proche que le Ratanakiri, qui me tentait aussi beaucoup! Est-ce que cela restera pas trop compliqué toute seule? Je pense faire appel à des guides locaux, ou une petite agence locale, pour faire une escapade dans la nature et les villages.
Je lis qu'il y a beaucoup de monde à SR entre Noël et Nouvel An, je peux aussi faire le circuit dans l'autre sens. Mais je trouvais plus facile de me familiariser avec le pays en arrivant en territoire touristique, je me trompe peut-être...
Merci pour vos conseils et avis!
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.







