Arrivant à l'aéroport de bangkok (Suvarnabhumi), je voudrais savoir ce qui est mieux pour rejoindre Khorat : train ou bus ?
Comment peut-on rejoindre la gare d'Huamlaphong (taxi, métro..) ou le terminal de bus (taxi, métro..) depuis l'aéroport?
Merci d'avance
A mon avis le mieux c'est d'aller en taxi au terminal Nord de bus Mochit .
Là tu as des departs quasiment toutes les demi heures pour khorat ( Nakhon ratchasima )
Compter 4/5 heures.
Par contre je ne sais pas ou arrive le bus : soit la tres grande gare routiere un peu excentrée
ou il y a des departs pour toutes les destinations .
( tu peux trouver des minibus publics roses et gris qui t'emmeneront en ville pour 10 baths, ou des songtaews sur la grande avenue )
Sinon de Mochit egalement bus AC 1 frequents pour la petite gare routiére située en plein centre de Khorat.( je repars de celle-ci pour revenir à Bgkk)
Le train mettra trop de temps .
A Khorat il y a des bons hotels à prix raisonnables.
La ville n 'a pas grand chose à proposer mais tu es au coeur de la vie thaie et tu croiseras tres peu de touristes.
Tu peux aller à Phimai à partir de la grande gare routiére et revenir le jour meme.
Comment peut-on rejoindre la gare de Hua Lamphong (taxi, métro..) ou le terminal de bus (taxi, métro..) depuis l'aéroport?
Bonjour Vivalpaga.
L'"Airport Shuttle Bus" AE4 te mènera tout droit à la gare principale de Hua Lamphong pour 150 baths (3 euros).
Depuis Hua Lamphong, prendre le metro et descendre à l'avant-dernière station, Kamphaeng Phet, qui se trouve pas loin du (mais pas directement sur) Nothern Bus terminal (communément appelé "Mochit"). De là, soit aller à pied (15 min.), soit prendre un tuk-tuk (plus cher mais plus simple, surtout avec des bagages). Prévoir 50 baths pour le metro de Hua Lamphong à Mochit et entre 20 et 50 baths pour le tuk-tuk. Et depuis Mochit, il y a effectivement des bus pour toutes les directions de la Thailande, dont Khorat.
Mais attend : Je viens de m'apercevoir que le AE4 s'arrête au Victory Monument avant Hua Lamphong (dernier arrêt). Pourquoi ne pas descendre ici (pour économiser du temps et de l'argent) et prendre un bus pour Mochit ? Par ex., le 77 (ordinaire rouge ou air-cond. jaune, 2h-23h), 159 (ordinaire, blanc, 4h30-20h30), 170 (air-cond., blanc, 5h-22h), 529 (air-cond., blanc, 4h30-20h30), Microbus 5 et 12 (air-cond., vert, 5h-21h, 1h-21h). Ça fait gagner 1h (en tout cas) sur le programme et env. 100 baths (metro+tuk-tuk). Ou mieux encore (plus rapide mais un peu plus cher): Le Skytrain (metro aérien), dont la dernière station est prècisément Mochit (5 stations après Victory Monument).
Je viens de séjourner 2 mois entiers à Bangkok et j'ai bien potassé la carte des bus hyperpratique que l'on trouve pour 40 baths dans toutes les librairies Asiabooks (presque toutes sur Sukhumvit, voir le/les plans sur leur site web). Je l'ai beaucoup cherchée cette fameuse carte et ne l'ai trouvée que là, et tant pis pour la pub !. Je la conseille vivement à tous ceux qui désirent se déplacer comme les thais dans cette ville et éviter de se faire arnaquer par les chauffeurs de tuk-tuks ou taxis.
Je ne me suis déplacé uniquement qu'en bus locaux durant ces 2 mois, je n'ai pas vu la couleur d'un taxi ou d'un tuk-tuk. Grosses économies de baths en perspectives.
Si tu tapes "bus map bangkok" sur google, tu trouves tout ce que tu as besoin de savoir à ce sujet, notamment sur into-asia.com/bangkok/buses/. J'ai aussi découvert sur dcothai.com/product_info.php?products_id=649 qu'il y a moyen d'acheter une autre carte des bus pour 3 $ chez DCO-Thai bookshop.
Au cas où tu déciderai de séjourner 1 nuit ou 2 à Bangkok, dans la région de Khao San, avant d'aller à Khorat :
Concernant l'aéroport de Suvarnabhumi, pour Democracy Monument et inversément, il y a 1 options bon marché, et 1 options à 70 baths, en dehors de l'"Airport Shuttle Bus" (AE2) à 150 baths :
Le bus no 551 à 25 baths (env.) qui va directement au Victory Monument. De là, rejoindre Khao San/Democracy Monument, par ex. avec le 59 (ordinaire, rouge, 7 baths ou air-cond., jaune, 14 baths, 24h/24), le 157 (idem que le 59 mais 4h30-20h30), le 503, 509 (air-cond., 4h-22h et 8h-22h). Cela marche dans les 2 sens : Aéroport-Khao San et Khao San-aéroport.
Le bus 556 à 70 baths (se prend sur la grande avenue du Democracy Monument) qui concurrence un peu (beaucoup?) le AE2 à 150 baths.
Mais pourquoi prendre la navette à 150 baths (ou 70) quand on peut le faire pour 30 baths environ ?
Pour la gare de Hua Lamphong depuis Khao San, la seule option valable est le 53 sur Phra Athit/Phra Sumen (à Bang Lamphoo) ou sur Samsen. Mais faire attention sur quel coté de la route on le prend : Il faut prendre le outbound car le 53 "inbound" traverse ChinaTown et passe à coté de Hua Lamphong (à 5 min à pied) tandis que le outbound évite ChinaTown et s'arrête devant la gare. Le 53 outbound veut dire qu'il tourne dans le sens des aiguilles d'une montre quand on regarde le nord (ou sur la carte). Ceci veut dire qu'il se prend du coté fleuve sur Phra Athit (la rue du Fort, entre le fleuve et Rambutri). C'est indiqué (outbound ou inbound) sur l'arrêt de bus (s'il est ultramoderne, sinon demander).
Pour Mochit (Northern Bus Terminal) depuis Khao San/Rambutri, prendre le 3 sur Phra Athit, Sumen ou Samsen.
En réponse à Comment peut-on rejoindre la gare d'Hua Lamphong ou le terminal des bus (taxi, métro) depuis l'aéroport?
Résumé du post précèdent :
Khorat en train : Navette AE4 depuis l'aéroport jusqu'à Hua Lamphong, puis train. Si aucuns trains disponibles, depuis la gare, metro jusqu'à la station Khamphaeng Phet, puis Mochit à pied ou tuk-tuk, puis bus.
Khorat en bus : Navette AE4 jusqu'au Victory Monument, puis skytrain jusqu'à la dernière station (Mochit), puis tuk-tuk jusqu'au Northern Bus Terminal (la station skytrain s'appelle Mochit mais n'est pas directement à côté ou dans le terminal du même nom), puis bus.
Khorat en train : Navette AE4 depuis l'aéroport jusqu'à Hua Lamphong, puis train. Si aucuns trains disponibles, depuis la gare, metro jusqu'à la station Khamphaeng Phet, puis Mochit à pied ou tuk-tuk, puis bus.
Khorat en bus : Navette AE4 jusqu'au Victory Monument, puis skytrain jusqu'à la dernière station (Mochit), puis tuk-tuk jusqu'au Northern Bus Terminal (la station skytrain s'appelle Mochit mais n'est pas directement à côté ou dans le terminal du même nom), puis bus.
Petit détail : On peut aussi prendre le bus 551 depuis l'aéroport pour aller à Victory Monument. C'est la même chose qu'avec la navette AE4 mais c'est bcp moins cher (25 baths au lieu de 150).
Sinon, de la gare principale Hua Lamphong, départs pour Nakhon Ratchasima (Khorat) comme suit :
5h45, 6h40, 10h05, 11h40, 15h20, 18h30, 18h55, 30h30, 21h50, 22h25, 23h40. Trajet entre 4h et 5h, selon les trains.
Merci pour les infos.
Si on prend un taxi entre l'aéroport et la gare Hua lamphong, sais-tu combien ça coûte, peut-on payer en dollar ou doit-on faire du change tout de suite à l'aéroport ?
Une autre petite question comme on arrive à 11.10 à l'aéroport, nous ne pourrons prendre le train qu' à 15.20 : on arrivera donc vers 20.00 à Khorat.
est ce facile de trouver un hotel à cette heure-là ?
Si on prend un taxi entre l'aéroport et la gare Hua lamphong, sais-tu combien ça coûte, peut-on payer en dollar ou doit-on faire du change tout de suite à l'aéroport ?
Une autre petite question comme on arrive à 11.10 à l'aéroport, nous ne pourrons prendre le train qu' à 15.20 : on arrivera donc vers 20.00 à Khorat.
est ce facile de trouver un hotel à cette heure-là ?
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Je vois que le train de 15h20 que tu comptes prendre n'est pas un express et arrive à Khorat à 21h15, soit presque 6 heures de trajet...
Tu serais peut-être mieux inspirée de privilégier le bus, en tout cas sur ce tronçon-là. Il y en a tout le temps et ils mettent 4 heures.
On ne paye pas les taxis en dollars. Tu peux (tu dois) changer de l'argent à l'airport. Le taux est sensiblement le même qu'en ville.
De toutes façons, comme tu ne vas pas en ville, c'est l'endroit où jamais pour faire du change.
Taxi en gros 280 bahts....avec l autoroute...se mefier comme de la peste des taxis a bangkok.......une horreur...pire les tuk tuk..exiger le compteur.....en 6 jours j ai du negocier le taxi 5 ou 6 fois par jour.
Arrogants et agressifs...usant a force de reclamer le compteur....le touriste est un pigeon a plumer....1er et dernier sejour a bangkok....souvent ils demandent 200 ou 300 bahts...qui deviennent 60 en se fachant....autant Chiang mai est sympa.....bangkok a part 3 ou 4 sites..ville de m....
Ok pascale, cela renforce notre envie de partir directement de bkk dès notre arrivée....
nous avons un peu peur de mal se débrouiller tout de suite à BKK, on préfère se roder à la campagne, et on visitera bkk à notre retour ...
une autre question concernant la ligne jusqu'à ubon ratchatani... on aimerait traverser sur 2/3 jours voir plus si cela nous plait.... quels sont les lieux sympas où nous pourrions faire une halte. J'ai potassé khorat, phimai, buriram, surin, si sakhet et ubon.... mais je ne sais pas trop quoi choisir.....
avez vous des suggestions à nous faire? des expériences à partager?
Euh! C'est quoi ces conneries?
Je vais occasionnellement a Bangkok quand je descend de Sakon Nakhon (Issan ) et jamais, mais alors jamais je me suis fait arnaquer ; si le chauffeur ne veut pas mettre le "meter", ca peut arriver pour X raisons que nous ne connaitrons jamais, et bien on prend le suivant! Il y en a des milliers.
De plus ca ne reponds pas a la question de depart;
Il y a un membre qui a donne d'excellentes reponses(concernant les bus), ne reste plus qu'a les mettre en pratique.
Merci pour toutes ces infos trés pratiques!!!
Pour plus de facilité, et comme nous serons sans doute fatigués du voyage, nous prendrons directement un taximeter au comptoir taxi de l'airport, à destination de Northen Bus Terminal Mochit . Et nous prendrons le bus direction ubon ratchatani, nous nous arrêterons à Surin .
Voilà notre petit programme d'arrivée!
savez si nous pouvons nous procurer les horaires de bus quelque part?
Et savez vous combien de temps il faut compter pour BKK-Surin?
Merci!!!
et vive VF!!!
Vivalpaga!
savez-vous si nous pouvons nous procurer les horaires des bus quelquepart?
Vivalpaga,
J'ai répondu à cette question dans mon post (trop long peut-être?) du 17.12.07. Je te remets ci-dessous le passage concernant ta question.
(...) la carte des bus hyperpratique que l'on trouve pour 40 baths dans toutes les librairies Asiabooks (presque toutes sur Sukhumvit Rd, voir le/les plans sur leur site web). Je l'ai beaucoup cherchée cette fameuse carte et ne l'ai trouvée que là, et tant pis pour la publicité gratuite !. Je la conseille vivement à tous ceux qui désirent se déplacer comme les thais dans cette ville. Je ne me suis déplacé uniquement qu'en bus locaux durant es 2 mois que j'ai passé a BKK, je n'ai pas vu la couleur ni d'un taxi ni d'un tuk-tuk. Grosses économies de baths.
Si tu tapes "bus map bangkok" sur Google, tu trouves tout ce que tu as besoin de savoir à ce sujet, notamment sur into-asia.com/bangkok/buses/. J'ai aussi découvert sur dcothai.com/product_info.php?products_id=649 qu'il y a moyen d'acheter une autre carte des bus pour 3 $ chez DCO-Thai bookshop.
Ah ouais, les horaires : Sur la carte des bus, les horaires sont indiqués à côté de chaques numéros de bus. Beaucoup tournent 24h/24 mais pas tous. En général, la cadence est tous les quart d'heures mais ce n'est pas garanti, surtout dans une ville aussi congestionnée que Bangkok.
(...) nous prendrons directement un taximeter au comptoir taxi de l'airport, à destination de Mochit.
Oui en effet, c'est la meilleure chose à faire quand on arrive d'Europe avec les poches pleines d'un budget vacances adéquat et qu'on a pas de temps à perdre... on ne va pas lésiner sur les quelques euros que coûte le taxi, surtout après la fatigue du voyage, décalage horaire, etc., et surtout compte tenu du temps économisé et aussi le fait qu'il faut se trimbaler les bagages. Cela fait encore partie du prix du billet d'avion, en quelque sorte.
Quant au fait que Bangkok est une ville désagréable ("ville de m...", je cite, post de "pascal25" du 26.12.07), alors là je m'inscris en faux, comme on dit! Au contraire, il y fait très bon vivre, quand on connait les bons plans... un peu comme partout, en fait. Ville pas dangereuse DU TOUT. Bien sûr, quelques arnaques par-ci par-là mais dites-moi où est la ville parfaite où les touristes ne se font pas arnaquer ? Paris peut-être ? Ça m'étonnerai...
Quant aux taxis ("Arrogants et agressifs", même post), bien évidemment toujours exiger le compteur et tout va bien. Mais il ne faut pas les prendre dans les environs de Khao San, c'est sûr . Là, ils essayeront toujours de ne pas le mettre (le "meter"), vous laisserons en plan si vous l'exigez (ils peuvent même sortir les bagages du coffre, les laisser sur le trottoir et se tirer... c'est du vécu!), car les touristes-pseudo-routards de Khao San sont invariablement assez @#$% pour se laisser faire et payer n'importe quoi à n'importe quel prix sans sourciller. Alors, les thais en profitent et c'est logique (que ferions-nous à leur place ?). C'est à nous, farangs, de faire attention. Donc, si vous êtes sur Khao San, éloignez-vous en un peu, marchez 5 minutes et prenez le taxi un peu plus loin. Et là, ils seront parfaitement bien élevés.
1. Si on prend un taxi entre l'aéroport et la gare Hua lamphong, sais-tu combien ça coûte,
2. peut-on payer en dollar ou
3. doit-on faire du change tout de suite à l'aéroport ?
4. On arrivera donc vers 20.00 à Khorat. est ce facile de trouver un hotel à cette heure-là ?
Rép. 1 : Pas cher ! (surtout si on arrive d'Europe...)
Rép. 2 : Non, le taximan ne connaîtra pas le taux de change.
Rép. 3 : Possibilité de retirer des baths aux ATM de l'aéroport, si tu as une carte bancaire, ou faire du change.
Rép. 4 : Oui, facile. Mais par précaution, leur téléphoner et réserver. Ne serait-ce que pour se faire chercher à
la gare/bus terminal. Nombreuses adresses dans vos guides de voyage préférés...
Et savez vous combien de temps il faut compter pour BKK-Surin?
Euh, voyons, Surin... Surin ? C'est à 40 km de la frontière cambodgienne si je me souviens bien... voyage en bus ou train (beaucoup mieux m'a-t-on dit) entre 4 et 6 heures (voir plus, ne suis pas sûr, à vérifier)... célèbre Festival des éléphants en novembre... Si tu Google "Surin Thailande", tu tombes sur tout ce dont tu as besoin de savoir à ce sujet, y compris les nombreux posts de VoyageForum !!!
Voilà d'ailleurs ce que j'ai copié sur 3 de ces posts, ça pourrait te servir :
Ok donc, le train D udon de 18h30 jusqu'à Nakhon Ratchasima, puis celui de minuit jusqu'à Surin, humm pas terrible, ça me fait arriver à 3h du mat à Surin.
- C'est à l'est, un poil au dessus de Prasat sur CETTE CARTE
savez si nous pouvons nous procurer les horaires de bus quelque part?
Et savez vous combien de temps il faut compter pour BKK-Surin?
Vivalpaga, je n'avais pas capté (j'étais encore branché sur ceux de Bangkok, la ville) que tu parlais des bus AU DEPART DE MOCHIT, pour le nord, nord-est, désolé !! 😕
Sinon, plein de sites d'infos sur la Thailande comme celui-ci par ex.: http://www.thai-info2004.com/northeastern_thailand.htm. Là, tu as "getting to Khorat/Udon Thani, etc., by bus/car/train/air, etc.". Site complet.
La carte des routes et chemins de fer de Thailande ("zoomable") ici.
Euh! C'est quoi ces conneries?
Je vais occasionnellement a Bangkok (...) et jamais, mais alors jamais je me suis fait arnaquer ; si le chauffeur ne veut pas mettre le "meter", ca peut arriver pour X raisons que nous ne connaitrons jamais, et bien on prend le suivant! Il y en a des milliers. De plus ca ne reponds pas a la question de depart.
Alors là Faireplaît, j'abonde en ton sens. Bangkok est une ville très agréable, on s'y sent libre et les gens sont gentils. Les chauffeurs de taxi sont polis et bien élevés, et ils mettent le "meter" d'office. Du moins, la grosse majorité d'entre eux. Et comme tu dis, s'il ne veut pas obtempèrer (surtout dans les environs de Khao San), on prend le suivant et basta. Et ça ne répond pas à la question de départ, en effet. "pascal25" dit "se mefier comme de la peste des taxis a bangkok", "bangkok (...) ville de m...." : N'importe quoi ! Se méfier comme de la peste de tout ce qui tourne autour de Khao San, oui ça il faut le dire. En lisant son post, ça sent à plein nez que "pascal25" n'a pris le taxi et tuk-tuk qu'exclusivement à partir de Khao San. Mais Khao San N'EST PAS BANGKOK. C'est un ilot totalement artificiel fait pour les toutous "would-be" routards qui débarquent pour la première fois en Asie, pigeons faciles à plumer, les thais le savent et en profitent. Ceci dit, je ne crache pas sur cet endroit, qui reste malgré tout très pratique (et sommes toutes fréquentable!). Il faut juste y vivre un peu en périphérie (Samen, Samsen, Phra Athit, voir év. Rambutri autour du temple), n'en prendre que le bon côté et le tour est joué.
Quant aux tuk-tuks, c'est vrai, il faut négocier ferme. Les tuk-tuks ont une mauvaise réputation, même parmi les thais, c'est dire. Mais bon.... ça reste easy. Faut pas paniquer. On est en Asie, mieux, en Thailande. Pas en Amérique du sud. Les gens sont HYPERTRANQUILLES ici, en comparaison. Le chauffeur de tuk-tuk, tu lui fais les gros yeux et il baisse son froq immédiatement. Va faire un peu ça en Colombie ou au Brésil... tu le fais pas 2x.
Vivalpaga : "Ok pascale, cela renforce notre envie de partir directement de bkk dès notre arrivée...." : Vivalpaga, ne te décourage pas ! Surtout à cause d'un seul avis négatif. Il y a plein de français, resp. d'occidentaux qui vivent à l'année dans cette ville et s'y sentent très bien.
Allez un peu sur les sites anglophones et voyez ce que les touristes américains disent de Paris. Ça ne donne pas envie d'y mettre les pieds! Et pourtant, ça reste la ville la plus visitée au monde, et de loin. Et il y a une grosse communauté d'américains qui vivent à l'année à Paris et s'en portent très bien. Donc, relativisons.
Taxi en gros 280 bahts....avec l autoroute...se mefier comme de la peste des taxis a bangkok.......une horreur...pire les tuk tuk..exiger le compteur.....en 6 jours j ai du negocier le taxi 5 ou 6 fois par jour.
Arrogants et agressifs...usant a force de reclamer le compteur....le touriste est un pigeon a plumer....1er et dernier sejour a bangkok....souvent ils demandent 200 ou 300 bahts...qui deviennent 60 en se fachant....autant Chiang mai est sympa.....bangkok a part 3 ou 4 sites..ville de m...
Encore un qui met tout dans le même panier, en 20 ans sur place, j'en ait pris des taxi, en grande majorité, ils sont corrects, mais bien sur si un gogo et qui plus arrogant ( typiquement français ), monte, bien il essaye de se venger sur son portefeuille,
pour les tuks, je suis d'accord, pour un chauffeur de tuck, un farang est un peut un gogo, car il n'y connais rien de ce que c'est un tuck, il le prend pour un truc amusant, qui lui font faire des kilomètres, , ( quant un local ne traverse pas la ville en tuck, )
résultat, ha tu veut monter sur mon drôle d'engin ?? tu me fait faire des kilomètres dans un coin que je ne connais pas ?? bien sa se paye, 😉
photo david et goliat
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Pareil Khun Thuan, j'en ai pris beaucoup des taxis à Bangkok et pratiquement jamais eu de problème non plus ils sont correct en généralité comme tu dis, prendre un tuk-tuk dans Bangkok et me retrouver coincé entre deux camions et prendre les gaz d'échappements dans la figure, non merci .
Un jour avec un couple d'amis (leur première fois à Bangkok ) voulaient absolument prendre un tuk-tuk pour rentrer à l'hôtel perso je ne voulait pas et je suis rentrer en taxi et eux ont pris leur tuk-tuk, je suis rentrer à l'hôtel une demi-heure avant eux et quand ils sont rentrer la rigolade ils avaient le visage noirci par la pollution, franche rigolade là quand ils se sont vu dans le miroir à l'entrée de l'hôtel .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Ni gogo...Ni arrogant...Desolé pour toi...Mon amie non plus...Ce forum me fait souvent sourire...Les "Specialistes" de destinations donneurs de leçons et moralisateurs qui plus est.Je n ai fait que relater ce que nous avons vecu a Bangkok..Mon amie et moi avons etes ulcérés du comportement de la plupart des taxis ..Nous sommes pourtant des gens civilisés tolerants qui voyageons pas mal..Et d un niveau socio culturel plutot correct...Simplement nous avons l honnetete de relater les choses telles qu elles se produisent..sans rien enjoliver...Mais vous etes des specialistes de la thailande...Les locaux vous reconnaissent sans aucun doute...Et vous respectent sans vous prendre pour des farangs..
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Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
