Tour de l'Annapurna par les 5 cols
by Guillestre
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir , par en novembre pour le trek des annapurnas est envisage de faire le tour des 5 cols nous serions 3 , mais voudrez le faire sans grosse logistique , merci pour vos infos .
Oui le tour des Annapurnas ne compte que un (Thorung La) ou possiblement deux (Ghorepani) cols. Ou peut-etre en effet on peut arriver a 5 si on commence et on finit de marcher a Pokhara meme pour faire un tour complet a pied.
À nagwal on quitte la tracé normal direction naar on passé un premier col à 5305 mt au ensuite le teri bhanjhang 5595 , le baha bhanjhang 4380 mt le byu 4077 mt on arrive à muktinah on remonte pour passer le thorung pass 5416 mt on arrive à manang et on passé le bastern pass .
Pour ce tour je pense qu'il me faut un minimum de logistique ( sherpas porteur , Cook ) mais je ne souhaite pas qu'on se transforment en caravane .
La on est plus dans le tour des annapurnas mais dans quelques chose avec un permis spécial
De plus le thorong lha depuis muktinath bonjour la bavante
Hasta la vista
La on est plus dans le tour des annapurnas mais dans quelques chose avec un permis spécial
A ma connaissance, "tour de l'annapurna" ne fait pas partie de l'appellation consacrée. Il s'agit plutôt des "5 cols de l'Annapurna". Cf. http://www.martinpierre.fr/pages/treks-asie/nepal-les-5-cols-de-l-annapurna/ où l'on peut accéder à des topos commentés.
De plus le thorong lha depuis muktinath bonjour la bavante
Ce n'est peut-être pas le plus grand challenge. Car, à partir du lac Tilicho, l'enchaînement du Tilicho Eastern Pass (5365 m) et du Mandala Pass (5330 m) impose un long passage au-dessus de 5000 m avant de redescendre vers Thinigaon / Jomsom.
Fabrice
A ma connaissance, "tour de l'annapurna" ne fait pas partie de l'appellation consacrée. Il s'agit plutôt des "5 cols de l'Annapurna". Cf. http://www.martinpierre.fr/pages/treks-asie/nepal-les-5-cols-de-l-annapurna/ où l'on peut accéder à des topos commentés.
De plus le thorong lha depuis muktinath bonjour la bavante
Ce n'est peut-être pas le plus grand challenge. Car, à partir du lac Tilicho, l'enchaînement du Tilicho Eastern Pass (5365 m) et du Mandala Pass (5330 m) impose un long passage au-dessus de 5000 m avant de redescendre vers Thinigaon / Jomsom.
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
au ensuite le teri bhanjhang 5595, le baha bhanjhang 4380 mt le byu 4077 mt on arrive à muktinah
Vous avez pensé à l'agence pour obtenir les permis? Surtout pour entrer au Mustang par cette voie.A ma connaissance l'entée au Haut Mustang ne se fait que par Kagbeni.( seul check post)
Vous avez pensé à l'agence pour obtenir les permis? Surtout pour entrer au Mustang par cette voie.A ma connaissance l'entée au Haut Mustang ne se fait que par Kagbeni.( seul check post)
Ce n'est peut-être pas le plus grand challenge. Car, à partir du lac Tilicho, l'enchaînement du Tilicho Eastern Pass (5365 m) et du Mandala Pass (5330 m) impose un long passage au-dessus de 5000 m avant de redescendre vers Thinigaon / Jomsom.
Fabrice
Certes 🙂
Fabrice
Certes 🙂
Hasta la vista
Donc si je comprend bien c pas une bonne idée cet variante ?
Comme deja dit, ce n'est pas une variante, c'est un trek Restricted a organiser par une agence.
Donc si je comprend bien c pas une bonne idée cet variante ?
Pas tout à fait. Mon commentaire sur la zone étendue au-dessus de 5000 m signifie que ce n'est pas une petite balade de montagne à yak, les mains dans les poches.
Pour le franchissement de l'un des cols dits "Mesokanto La" (il y a 3 passages au choix), vous pouvez consulter : - https://voyageforum.com/discussion/trek-court-nepal-annapurna-thorong-pass-d7634915/. - https://voyageforum.com/discussion/trek-nepal-environ-20-jours-novembre-2016-d7545771/. (nota : le forumiste Gazipach9 est mort lors d'une chute pendant le voyage qu'il évoquait). - http://www.nepal-dia.de/int__England/EV_Annapurna/ENAT-33_tilicho_lake_to_jomsom/body_enat-33_tilicho_lake_to_jomsom.html. - http://www.lowdin.nu/Treks/Mesokantola/Tilicholake.html. - https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g424944-i12328-k9872695-Mesokanto_La_or_Tilicho_Tourist_Pass-Annapurna_Region_Gandaki_Zone_Western_Region.html.
Bonne lecture
Fabrice
Pas tout à fait. Mon commentaire sur la zone étendue au-dessus de 5000 m signifie que ce n'est pas une petite balade de montagne à yak, les mains dans les poches.
Pour le franchissement de l'un des cols dits "Mesokanto La" (il y a 3 passages au choix), vous pouvez consulter : - https://voyageforum.com/discussion/trek-court-nepal-annapurna-thorong-pass-d7634915/. - https://voyageforum.com/discussion/trek-nepal-environ-20-jours-novembre-2016-d7545771/. (nota : le forumiste Gazipach9 est mort lors d'une chute pendant le voyage qu'il évoquait). - http://www.nepal-dia.de/int__England/EV_Annapurna/ENAT-33_tilicho_lake_to_jomsom/body_enat-33_tilicho_lake_to_jomsom.html. - http://www.lowdin.nu/Treks/Mesokantola/Tilicholake.html. - https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g424944-i12328-k9872695-Mesokanto_La_or_Tilicho_Tourist_Pass-Annapurna_Region_Gandaki_Zone_Western_Region.html.
Bonne lecture
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Pour ce tour je pense qu'il me faut un minimum de logistique (sherpas porteur, Cook) mais je ne souhaite pas qu'on se transforment en caravane.
1-Ce trek vous fait pénétrer d'abord dans une" restrected area" :Le Nar/phu ( permis restrected area nécessaire) puis dans le haut Mustang où seule une agence agréée et obligatoire est à même de faire la demande de permis auprès des services de l'immigration.A titre individuel c'est impossible. Le prix du permis ( même pour un seul jour) est de 500 dollars/pers . Ce permis n'est délivré que pour 2 personnes au minimum soit 1000 dollars pour 2. S'y ajoutent les frais de guide ( obligatoire) et de nourriture+ logement. D'autre part l'entrée au haut Mustang ne peut se faire que par Kagbeni (seul endroit où il y a un check post) par contre il est possible d'en ressortir par d'autres endroits comme le Teri la vers Muktinath ou Le Saribung la vers Phu. 2- L'ascension du Thorung pass à partir de Muktinath vous fait faire un dénivelé de 1600m entre 3800m et 5400m. Mieux vaut être en bonne condition physique! (à moins de bivouaquer avant le col.)
1-Ce trek vous fait pénétrer d'abord dans une" restrected area" :Le Nar/phu ( permis restrected area nécessaire) puis dans le haut Mustang où seule une agence agréée et obligatoire est à même de faire la demande de permis auprès des services de l'immigration.A titre individuel c'est impossible. Le prix du permis ( même pour un seul jour) est de 500 dollars/pers . Ce permis n'est délivré que pour 2 personnes au minimum soit 1000 dollars pour 2. S'y ajoutent les frais de guide ( obligatoire) et de nourriture+ logement. D'autre part l'entrée au haut Mustang ne peut se faire que par Kagbeni (seul endroit où il y a un check post) par contre il est possible d'en ressortir par d'autres endroits comme le Teri la vers Muktinath ou Le Saribung la vers Phu. 2- L'ascension du Thorung pass à partir de Muktinath vous fait faire un dénivelé de 1600m entre 3800m et 5400m. Mieux vaut être en bonne condition physique! (à moins de bivouaquer avant le col.)
Merci pour c précisions je vais m'en tenir au tour classique
Le tour classique n'exclut pas de faire des escapades hors de l'autoroute qu'est devenu l'itinéraire historique.
En premier lieu, le passage en altitude à partir de Pisang pour Gyaru et Ngawal
Depuis Ngawal, il est possible d'atteindre le Kang La en aller-et-retour sans devoir souscrire le permis de zone à accès restreint Naar Phu (tant qu'il n'y a pas de poste de contrôle sur le versant sud).
De Ngawal, on peut poursuivre en altitude via Julu / Chulu vers Braka (dont le sentier NATT supérieur croisant le sentier du lac gelé).
Depuis Manang, on peut aussi atteindre le lac Tilicho, via Khangsar, Shree Kharka, et Tilicho Base Camp. Ensuite, sans repasser par Manang, il est possible de rejoindre via Old Khangsar l'itinéraire classique montant vers le Thorung La.
L'escapade du lac Tilicho (4920 m) assure une bonne acclimatation à l'altitude. Lodges à Shree Kharka et Tilicho Base Camp au pic de la saison touristique, à valider à Khangsar.
Tant le Kang La que l'escapade du lac Tilicho semblent offrir de superbes paysages. "Semblent", car je n'ai jamais encore été au Népal. Mes suggestions ne sont que le fruit de ma préparation livresque en vue d'un trek prévu pour mi-novembre 2017.
Fabrice
En premier lieu, le passage en altitude à partir de Pisang pour Gyaru et Ngawal
Depuis Ngawal, il est possible d'atteindre le Kang La en aller-et-retour sans devoir souscrire le permis de zone à accès restreint Naar Phu (tant qu'il n'y a pas de poste de contrôle sur le versant sud).
De Ngawal, on peut poursuivre en altitude via Julu / Chulu vers Braka (dont le sentier NATT supérieur croisant le sentier du lac gelé).
Depuis Manang, on peut aussi atteindre le lac Tilicho, via Khangsar, Shree Kharka, et Tilicho Base Camp. Ensuite, sans repasser par Manang, il est possible de rejoindre via Old Khangsar l'itinéraire classique montant vers le Thorung La.
L'escapade du lac Tilicho (4920 m) assure une bonne acclimatation à l'altitude. Lodges à Shree Kharka et Tilicho Base Camp au pic de la saison touristique, à valider à Khangsar.
Tant le Kang La que l'escapade du lac Tilicho semblent offrir de superbes paysages. "Semblent", car je n'ai jamais encore été au Népal. Mes suggestions ne sont que le fruit de ma préparation livresque en vue d'un trek prévu pour mi-novembre 2017.
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Depuis Ngawal, il est possible d'atteindre le Kang La en aller-et-retour sans devoir souscrire le permis de zone à accès restreint Naar Phu (tant qu'il n'y a pas de poste de contrôle sur le versant sud).
Le permis "Nar Phu" est plus abordable que celui du haut Mustang ( On est loin des 500 dollars!) et de plus si les infos de l'ambassade de France sont correctes ce serait maintenant "ouvert aux treks individuels" donc le permis "serait" délivré comme le TIMS à l'office du tourisme...ça reste à vérifier. J'ai lu quelque part le récit d'un trekker danois qui s'y serait rendu sans guide.
np.ambafrance.org/Le-Trek-au-Nepal
Nar, Phu, et au nord de Tilche (Région de Manang) Septembre à Novembre : 90 USD par semaine par personne. Decembre à Août : 75 USD par semaine par personne.
Le permis "Nar Phu" est plus abordable que celui du haut Mustang ( On est loin des 500 dollars!) et de plus si les infos de l'ambassade de France sont correctes ce serait maintenant "ouvert aux treks individuels" donc le permis "serait" délivré comme le TIMS à l'office du tourisme...ça reste à vérifier. J'ai lu quelque part le récit d'un trekker danois qui s'y serait rendu sans guide.
np.ambafrance.org/Le-Trek-au-Nepal
Nar, Phu, et au nord de Tilche (Région de Manang) Septembre à Novembre : 90 USD par semaine par personne. Decembre à Août : 75 USD par semaine par personne.
Perspectives intéressantes si elles se confirment.
J'ai lu quelque part le récit d'un trekker danois qui s'y serait rendu sans guide.
Si tu remets la "main" sur ce compte-rendu, cela m'intéresserait que tu m'en communiques les références.
Je note aussi que la zone "au-dessus de Tilche" serait aussi couverte. A ce jour, je n'avais pas connaissance de poste de contrôle, hormis à Dharapani. Et je comptais marcher librement à mon rythme, sans contrainte d'un guide, une fois franchi le Larkya La (Tour du Manaslu).
Fabrice
J'ai lu quelque part le récit d'un trekker danois qui s'y serait rendu sans guide.
Si tu remets la "main" sur ce compte-rendu, cela m'intéresserait que tu m'en communiques les références.
Je note aussi que la zone "au-dessus de Tilche" serait aussi couverte. A ce jour, je n'avais pas connaissance de poste de contrôle, hormis à Dharapani. Et je comptais marcher librement à mon rythme, sans contrainte d'un guide, une fois franchi le Larkya La (Tour du Manaslu).
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Le permis "Nar Phu" est plus abordable que celui du haut Mustang ( On est loin des 500 dollars!) et de plus si les infos de l'ambassade de France sont correctes ce serait maintenant "ouvert aux treks individuels" donc le permis "serait" délivré comme le TIMS à l'office du tourisme...ça reste à vérifier. J'ai lu quelque part le récit d'un trekker danois qui s'y serait rendu sans guide.
np.ambafrance.org/Le-Trek-au-Nepal
Effectivement, le texte de l'Ambassade de France est "ouvert".
Mais le Naar Phu est toujours sur la liste des zones conditionnées à l'obtention d'un permis spécial sur le site web du Ministère de l'Immigration népalais, cf. www.nepalimmigration.gov.np/...ing-routesareas.....
Aucune exception n'est mentionnée sur l'obligation d'être accompagné.
certain trekking regions known as 'Restricted Areas' (...) are highly regulated by the Government of Nepal and hence FITs are strictly forbidden. Trekking in these areas is allowed only upon acquiring permit from the Department of Immigration.
Interested trekkers should contact the authorized trekking agencies who then can apply for permits (on behalf of trekkers) at the Department of Immigration fulfilling all the necessary formalities. Trekkers should be trekking in a group (of minimum two persons) accompanied by licensed trekking guide. Individual trekker cannot apply for the permit.
Copié cette heure même sur le site web du DoI (www.nepalimmigration.gov.np/content/ab.html).
Reste à savoir si le site officiel népalais est à jour. En tout cas, il serait intéressant de lire attentivement le récit du trekkeur danois : est-il officiellement passé en solitaire, sans le moindre passe-droit ?
Fabrice
np.ambafrance.org/Le-Trek-au-Nepal
Effectivement, le texte de l'Ambassade de France est "ouvert".
Mais le Naar Phu est toujours sur la liste des zones conditionnées à l'obtention d'un permis spécial sur le site web du Ministère de l'Immigration népalais, cf. www.nepalimmigration.gov.np/...ing-routesareas.....
Aucune exception n'est mentionnée sur l'obligation d'être accompagné.
certain trekking regions known as 'Restricted Areas' (...) are highly regulated by the Government of Nepal and hence FITs are strictly forbidden. Trekking in these areas is allowed only upon acquiring permit from the Department of Immigration.
Interested trekkers should contact the authorized trekking agencies who then can apply for permits (on behalf of trekkers) at the Department of Immigration fulfilling all the necessary formalities. Trekkers should be trekking in a group (of minimum two persons) accompanied by licensed trekking guide. Individual trekker cannot apply for the permit.
Copié cette heure même sur le site web du DoI (www.nepalimmigration.gov.np/content/ab.html).
Reste à savoir si le site officiel népalais est à jour. En tout cas, il serait intéressant de lire attentivement le récit du trekkeur danois : est-il officiellement passé en solitaire, sans le moindre passe-droit ?
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Oui il y a des endroits qui sont sur la liste officielle 'Restricted' mais qui sont en fait permis, comme Thuman et Timure dans le Langtang, ou bien sans controle, tel que la plus grande partie du district de Taplejung et du trek du Kanchenjunga, jusque Ghumsa.
Il n'y a pas de controle entre le col et Dharapani, mais a Dharapani le point de controle est en face du pont avec une vue sur les gens qui traversent le pont (et donc viennent du tour du Manaslu). Mais tu n'auras qu'a dire que ton guide viendra plus tard avec tes compagnons.
Oui il y a des endroits qui sont sur la liste officielle 'Restricted' mais qui sont en fait permis, comme Thuman et Timure dans le Langtang, ou bien sans controle, tel que la plus grande partie du district de Taplejung et du trek du Kanchenjunga, jusque Ghumsa.
Pas simple.
Si j'en ai le temps, je vais peut-être préparer un scénario Naar Phu au cas où je découvre à Katmandou que la zone est en effet ouverte aux trekkeurs étrangers indépendants.
Il n'y a pas de controle entre le col et Dharapani, mais a Dharapani le point de controle est en face du pont avec une vue sur les gens qui traversent le pont (et donc viennent du tour du Manaslu). Mais tu n'auras qu'a dire que ton guide viendra plus tard avec tes compagnons.
Merci Pierre pour cette précision. C'est en effet ce que j'imaginais répondre en cas de contrôle.
Comme je poursuis vers le Thorung La, je peux aussi poursuivre sur 1 km en rive gauche de la Marsyangdi pour franchir un pont plus en amont.
Fabrice
Pas simple.
Si j'en ai le temps, je vais peut-être préparer un scénario Naar Phu au cas où je découvre à Katmandou que la zone est en effet ouverte aux trekkeurs étrangers indépendants.
Il n'y a pas de controle entre le col et Dharapani, mais a Dharapani le point de controle est en face du pont avec une vue sur les gens qui traversent le pont (et donc viennent du tour du Manaslu). Mais tu n'auras qu'a dire que ton guide viendra plus tard avec tes compagnons.
Merci Pierre pour cette précision. C'est en effet ce que j'imaginais répondre en cas de contrôle.
Comme je poursuis vers le Thorung La, je peux aussi poursuivre sur 1 km en rive gauche de la Marsyangdi pour franchir un pont plus en amont.
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Je t'arrete tout de suite quant a l'histoire du trekkeur danois.
J'ai lu son CR (surement un des premiers ecrits sur la vallee de Naar-Phu d'ailleurs) et il n'est pas monte seul "en autonomie" dans la vallee, mais accompagne d'un ami nepalais a lui (pas forcement un guide, d'apres mes souvenirs) et de porteurs.
Il etait "seul" dans le sens "seul etranger", alors que le permis stipule la limite minimale a 2 etrangers + un guide nepalais. On sait depuis lors qu'il est possible de "virtualiser" le 2nd etranger, par une magouille bien simple realisee par une agence, soit en payant 2 fois le permis et en presentant un passeport d'un etranger lambda qui ne participera meme pas au trek.
Pour Naar-Phu, il y a un checkpost a Koto qui est la porte d'entree de la vallee de Phu. A mon sens, outre l'axe Lo Manthang Phu par les "alpages" (kharka) ou le passage du Kang La qui mene a Naar, pas d'autres voies accessibles facilement. (de memoire, aucun controle a Phu ou Naar, ni a Ngawal)
Il etait "seul" dans le sens "seul etranger", alors que le permis stipule la limite minimale a 2 etrangers + un guide nepalais. On sait depuis lors qu'il est possible de "virtualiser" le 2nd etranger, par une magouille bien simple realisee par une agence, soit en payant 2 fois le permis et en presentant un passeport d'un etranger lambda qui ne participera meme pas au trek.
Pour Naar-Phu, il y a un checkpost a Koto qui est la porte d'entree de la vallee de Phu. A mon sens, outre l'axe Lo Manthang Phu par les "alpages" (kharka) ou le passage du Kang La qui mene a Naar, pas d'autres voies accessibles facilement. (de memoire, aucun controle a Phu ou Naar, ni a Ngawal)
il n'est pas monte seul "en autonomie" dans la vallee, mais accompagne d'un ami nepalais a lui (pas forcement un guide, d'apres mes souvenirs) et de porteurs.
Merci Pierre-Yves pour cet éclairage.
On n'a pas tous la même compréhension du terme "alone". 😎
Quand on me demande si je suis accompagné, j'évoque mon sac-à-dos 🙂.
Fabrice
Merci Pierre-Yves pour cet éclairage.
On n'a pas tous la même compréhension du terme "alone". 😎
Quand on me demande si je suis accompagné, j'évoque mon sac-à-dos 🙂.
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
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Here’s what we’re planning: A hike to Fontainhas—what’s the best direction, considering we’re not great with climbs? No problem with flat terrain or descents. Take an aluguer to Ribeira Grande and continue along the coastal road.
With the agency: An excursion to Cruzinha with a short walk. Return to Porto Novo via the path from Cova to… I’m not sure where yet, to pick up the car for Porto Novo, since we’ll be taking the ferry that evening. We’ll have a guide for this hike.
We’d love to spend a day in Tarrafal, but getting back requires a boat or taxi, and it’s really expensive!
We’re a couple, 78 and 76 years old. What do you think of this itinerary?
Not very well known: Hokkaido Island has national parks that rival those in North America. Hiking there is free (even many mountain huts) and requires no formalities. These treks are described in the LP *Hiking in Japan* guide—you can just buy the Hokkaido PDF. It’s way better than Mount Fuji. Of course, everything depends on the weather, which is very unstable in the Japanese mountains (frequent strong winds). The trails are often obstacle courses.
The Daisetsu Zan traverse is a stunning hike through volcanic terrain with a remote section in the middle that requires at least one night of camping (there are basic huts for the rest, which is popular with Japanese hikers): 4 to 6 days.
The Shiretoko traverse takes 2 days with views including an island in Russia, but the ridge is brown bear territory—there are even more here than in Denali National Park in Alaska (brown bears and grizzlies are the same). I ran into 7 in just 6 hours of hiking!
I’m heading to Rebun and Rishiri Islands next.
The Daisetsu Zan traverse is a stunning hike through volcanic terrain with a remote section in the middle that requires at least one night of camping (there are basic huts for the rest, which is popular with Japanese hikers): 4 to 6 days.
The Shiretoko traverse takes 2 days with views including an island in Russia, but the ridge is brown bear territory—there are even more here than in Denali National Park in Alaska (brown bears and grizzlies are the same). I ran into 7 in just 6 hours of hiking!
I’m heading to Rebun and Rishiri Islands next.
Hi,
Since I can't take on long treks, I'd love to know if there are any nice hikes around Pokhara—or maybe in another region of Nepal. Day hikes or two-day trips would be perfect.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
I’m leaving on Monday, August 3rd for my very first long-distance trek: the GR223 from Coutances to Mont Saint-Michel, over 6-7 days (~11-14 miles/day), solo.
I’m looking for tips from people who know this section well (Coutances → Regnéville-sur-Mer → Hauteville-sur-Mer → Bréhal → Granville → Genêts → bay crossing):
Budget-friendly accommodations: I’m struggling to find affordable stopover lodgings (a lot of what I find online are expensive vacation rentals, not really suited for a solo hiker). If you have any great spots (hostels, hiker-friendly B&Bs, nice campgrounds), I’d love to hear them! Bay crossing: Any feedback on guides/providers leaving from Genêts for the final crossing? General tips for a first long-distance trek: What you wish you’d known before your first time, pitfalls to avoid, etc.
Budget-friendly accommodations: I’m struggling to find affordable stopover lodgings (a lot of what I find online are expensive vacation rentals, not really suited for a solo hiker). If you have any great spots (hostels, hiker-friendly B&Bs, nice campgrounds), I’d love to hear them! Bay crossing: Any feedback on guides/providers leaving from Genêts for the final crossing? General tips for a first long-distance trek: What you wish you’d known before your first time, pitfalls to avoid, etc.
Hi,
We’re planning to do the 4-day trek from Mestia to Ushguli without an agency. The descriptions mention that there are accommodations at each stop, but we can’t find any details about them. Has anyone got info or feedback on this route?
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Cat, Bruno.
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Cat, Bruno.
Hi everyone!
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028. I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄). This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028. I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄). This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont. The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont. The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
Hello,
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots? Thanks in advance for your tips. We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries! Claire and Albert
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots? Thanks in advance for your tips. We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries! Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
Spots where we could pitch the tent near a stream
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
Hi everyone,
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro



