Trabzon et Mer Noire en Turquie
by Julias
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
je suis en train d'organiser un voyage en Turquie autour du mois de mai. après avoir vu le fim 'DE L'AUTRE CÔTÉ' de Fatih Hakin, j'ai décidé de me rendre à OF, village en bordure de la Mer Noire, près de Trabzon.
Je cherche une chambre d'hôtes ou un joli petit hôtel dans les parages. En cherchant sur internet je n'ai trouvé que des hôtels horribles à Trabzon. Je cherche aussi toutes les choses à faire par là-bas : la plus jolie route, où boire le thé, la meilleure cuisine...
Si quelqu'un veut bien m'aider ?
salut
ne manque surtout pas : le monastere de sumela, a flanc de montagne dans un decor magnifique au sud de trabzon
ne manque surtout pas : le monastere de sumela, a flanc de montagne dans un decor magnifique au sud de trabzon
DIDIER/PARIS-KABOUL-KHATMANDOU
Sur la mer Noire, hormis quelques exceptions, Il n'y a pas de petites pensions dans les villages et les petites villes, comme dans l'ouest de la Turquie ; il faut se résoudre à aller dans des hotels d'affaire, *** minimum! à Trabzon. On peut trouver près de Sumela, et à Ayder (beaucoup de petites pensions adorables) .
C'est la même chose dans l'Anatolie de l'Est (Kars, Erzurum etc...) : l'hôtellerie n'est plus du tout touristique, et il faut prendre des hôtels classiques sans le charme des mini-hôtels.
C'est une région qui a un charme certain, mais beaucoup plus difficile à cerner (centres villes quelconques, monuments interessants plus rares, mais les paysages, les liens avec la population sont forts)
Nous avons fait fait en Septembre-Octobre, un long circuit le long de la <mer Noire, puis Kars, Erzurum, Malatya, Elazig, Cappadoce, Iznit, yalova et Istambul (5000km en voiture!)
Si vous voulez des renseignements ? Pour moi, les intersaisons me semnlent idéales (hivers glaciaux et étés torrides à l'intérieur) ( Climat pluvieux dans l'ensemble sur la mer Noire surtout à l'Est. Nous n'avons jamais pu nous baigner!)
Sumela, je l'ai visité en 1988, dans une atmosphère humide et brumeuse, c'était exceptionnel....
Ben
Bonjour,
Noter tout de meme.... Les hotels d'affaiire dont vous parlez n'ont trois etoiles que sur la porte et la chambre vaut dans les 40 YTL en general. Ce n'est pas plus cher que les pansiyons des zones touristiques.
Michel
Noter tout de meme.... Les hotels d'affaiire dont vous parlez n'ont trois etoiles que sur la porte et la chambre vaut dans les 40 YTL en general. Ce n'est pas plus cher que les pansiyons des zones touristiques.
Michel
Bonjour, il faut faire tout le long de la mer noire de l'est partant par Sinop jusqu'à la frontière georgienne. Ne pas éviter surtout les plataux derrière les villes-villages. Très riche en culture et paysage.
Yavuz...
C'est vrai, le littoral de la Mer Noire est à voir parce qu'encore préservé du tourisme de masse : les petits ports et les chantiers navals, la végétation qui dégringole vers la mer, superbe, les vieilles maisons de bois peintes lie de vin.....mais la route ! entre Amasra et Inebolu, il faut la mériter.
En septembre et à Inebolu, nous n'avons trouvé qu'un seul hébergement (centre de vacances turc) au demeurant très sympa et en direct sur la mer. Il faut dire que nous étions en plein ramadan, et ça c'est une expérience pour les Français que nous sommes : tous les resto étaient fermés à midi et le soir, ouverts au coup de canon de rupture de jeune avec un repas rituel de ramadan au milieu des familles turques conviviales....décoiffant et sympa.
Si tu aimes la montagne, tu peux aller faire un tour dans la chaine de montagne du Kaçkar.
C'est superbe et accessible à partir de Ayder (puis Kavrun) qui se trouve à l'est de Trabzon et de Rize.
Aller, une photo vaut mieux qu'un long discours, une petite prise lors d'une journée de marche à partir de Kavrun :

Aller, une photo vaut mieux qu'un long discours, une petite prise lors d'une journée de marche à partir de Kavrun :

>>Photos de voyages<< Brésil et carnaval, Brésil streetart, Brésil..
Et il y en a entre Trabzon (voire Ordu mais pas plus à l'ouest) et la frontière géorgienne ?
oui comme a rize par exemple et d'autres jusqu'a hopa
oui comme a rize par exemple et d'autres jusqu'a hopa
Bonjour Nemo,
Tu les connais ces ports, tu y es allé ?
Michel
Tu les connais ces ports, tu y es allé ?
Michel
Bonjour Michel,
j'ai deja été a rize
j'ai deja été a rize
j'ai deja été a rize
Et bien raconte. 🙂
Michel
Et bien raconte. 🙂
Michel
Bonsoir Nemo,
C'est un petit port Rize ? Les photos que je peux en trouver sur le net me montrent une ville assez importante, c'est une fausse impression ?
C'est quoi les autres ? Ardesen ? Findikli ?
Je n'arrive pas à me représenter la zone, et sur les photos qui seraient susceptibles (parce que les textes d'accompagnement sont en turc et je ne comprends rien) de la montrer je vois des espèces de 4 voies en bord de mer, le truc pas génial.
Catherine
C'est un petit port Rize ? Les photos que je peux en trouver sur le net me montrent une ville assez importante, c'est une fausse impression ?
C'est quoi les autres ? Ardesen ? Findikli ?
Je n'arrive pas à me représenter la zone, et sur les photos qui seraient susceptibles (parce que les textes d'accompagnement sont en turc et je ne comprends rien) de la montrer je vois des espèces de 4 voies en bord de mer, le truc pas génial.
Catherine
Bonjour Catherine,
Rize est une ville moyenne turque où l'économie tourne autour du thé et possede un petit/moyen port. J'avais été en oct 95 avec un ami pour un week-end où nous avions "visité" Trabzon et Rize
j'ai trouvé un article sur Rize:ICI(en francais)
Rize est une ville moyenne turque où l'économie tourne autour du thé et possede un petit/moyen port. J'avais été en oct 95 avec un ami pour un week-end où nous avions "visité" Trabzon et Rize
j'ai trouvé un article sur Rize:ICI(en francais)
Bonjour Catherine,
De ton périmètre, je n'ai vu que le tronçon à l'est de Hopa. Il y a bien un port à Hopa, mais plus grand que ce que tu recherches a priori, et je crois qu'il n'est pas vraiment possible d'y flâner (en tous cas, je n'ai pas trouvé comment accéder aux quais- mais j'ai été assez paresseuse).
Jusqu'à Sarp, ensuite, c'est effectivement une 4 voies (elle fait d'ailleurs le "front de mer" à Hopa), avec plusieurs tunnels. Possible que cette 4 voies commence bien avant.
Pas vu de "petits ports", et il est très difficile de s'arrêter avant le poste-frontière. Impossible même dans le sens Hopa-Sarp. Il y a un gros bourg à mi-chemin, Kemalpasa ; je ne saurais te dire s'il dispose d'un port. Par contre, au bout de la route, deux drapeaux qui flottent au vent.
En été, par là, c'est... euh... tropical.
De ton périmètre, je n'ai vu que le tronçon à l'est de Hopa. Il y a bien un port à Hopa, mais plus grand que ce que tu recherches a priori, et je crois qu'il n'est pas vraiment possible d'y flâner (en tous cas, je n'ai pas trouvé comment accéder aux quais- mais j'ai été assez paresseuse).
Jusqu'à Sarp, ensuite, c'est effectivement une 4 voies (elle fait d'ailleurs le "front de mer" à Hopa), avec plusieurs tunnels. Possible que cette 4 voies commence bien avant.
Pas vu de "petits ports", et il est très difficile de s'arrêter avant le poste-frontière. Impossible même dans le sens Hopa-Sarp. Il y a un gros bourg à mi-chemin, Kemalpasa ; je ne saurais te dire s'il dispose d'un port. Par contre, au bout de la route, deux drapeaux qui flottent au vent.
En été, par là, c'est... euh... tropical.
Re...
Rize est une ville moyenne turque où l'économie tourne autour du thé et possede un petit/moyen port.
Oui... J'aime pas les "ports moyens" 😛😏 (c'est soit Anvers, soit trois barques de pecheurs et là je cherche trois barques de pecheurs...)
Pas en tant que port mais en tant que ville Rize présente-t-elle un intéret ? Le thé y est-il meilleur qu'ailleurs en Turquie ? Autrement dit cela vaut-il le coup de faire éventuellement un détour pour aller y chercher 2 ou 3 kilos de thé ?
Catherine
Rize est une ville moyenne turque où l'économie tourne autour du thé et possede un petit/moyen port.
Oui... J'aime pas les "ports moyens" 😛😏 (c'est soit Anvers, soit trois barques de pecheurs et là je cherche trois barques de pecheurs...)
Pas en tant que port mais en tant que ville Rize présente-t-elle un intéret ? Le thé y est-il meilleur qu'ailleurs en Turquie ? Autrement dit cela vaut-il le coup de faire éventuellement un détour pour aller y chercher 2 ou 3 kilos de thé ?
Catherine
Bonsoir Catherine,
Tu trouves du thé de Rize dans toutes les épiceries depuis Edirne....
Michel
Tu trouves du thé de Rize dans toutes les épiceries depuis Edirne....
Michel
Bonsoir Emmanuelle,
Il y a bien un port à Hopa, mais plus grand que ce que tu recherches a priori, et je crois qu'il n'est pas vraiment possible d'y flâner (en tous cas, je n'ai pas trouvé comment accéder aux quais- mais j'ai été assez paresseuse).
Bon alors... possible que mon cargo en avatar induise en erreur 🙂. Là je cherche plutot un lieu de villégiature maritime pour bullerfarnienter, un jour, voire 2. En fait meme s'il n'y a pas vraiment de port ce n'est pas si grave. Mais le silence et l'absence de photo sur la toile au sujet de ces bourgades cotières me laisse supposer qu'elles n'ont pas cette fonction.
Jusqu'à Sarp, ensuite, c'est effectivement une 4 voies (elle fait d'ailleurs le "front de mer" à Hopa), avec plusieurs tunnels. Possible que cette 4 voies commence bien avant.
Le genre de la photo ci-jointe, non ?
Par contre, au bout de la route, deux drapeaux qui flottent au vent.
Pour ces frontières-là je vais attendre l'ouverture de la voie ferrée... (c'est trop dur quand elles sont un mur, et avec une voiture de loc, elles le sont)
Catherine
Il y a bien un port à Hopa, mais plus grand que ce que tu recherches a priori, et je crois qu'il n'est pas vraiment possible d'y flâner (en tous cas, je n'ai pas trouvé comment accéder aux quais- mais j'ai été assez paresseuse).
Bon alors... possible que mon cargo en avatar induise en erreur 🙂. Là je cherche plutot un lieu de villégiature maritime pour bullerfarnienter, un jour, voire 2. En fait meme s'il n'y a pas vraiment de port ce n'est pas si grave. Mais le silence et l'absence de photo sur la toile au sujet de ces bourgades cotières me laisse supposer qu'elles n'ont pas cette fonction.
Jusqu'à Sarp, ensuite, c'est effectivement une 4 voies (elle fait d'ailleurs le "front de mer" à Hopa), avec plusieurs tunnels. Possible que cette 4 voies commence bien avant.
Le genre de la photo ci-jointe, non ?
Par contre, au bout de la route, deux drapeaux qui flottent au vent.
Pour ces frontières-là je vais attendre l'ouverture de la voie ferrée... (c'est trop dur quand elles sont un mur, et avec une voiture de loc, elles le sont)
Catherine
Catherine,
Là je cherche plutot un lieu de villégiature maritime pour bullerfarnienter, un jour, voire 2.
Là je crois que tu te fourvoies....
Michel
Là je cherche plutot un lieu de villégiature maritime pour bullerfarnienter, un jour, voire 2.
Là je crois que tu te fourvoies....
Michel
Merci d'y mettre les formes 😏
Ah, la diplomatie, c'est notre truc à tous les deux, hein... 😏
Michel
Ah, la diplomatie, c'est notre truc à tous les deux, hein... 😏
Michel
Toujours sur la partie que je connais un tout petit peu...
Là je cherche plutot un lieu de villégiature maritime pour bullerfarnienter
Je ne pense pas. Tu sais, dans une heure, il y a dix bonnes grosses averses qui mouillent, qui durent chacune quatre minutes. Il y a bien une plage (galets) à quelques kilomètres de la frontière. Tu peux te garer sur la bande d'arrêt d'urgence - comme tout le monde - et aller observer les bains de mer alatürka ; de là à rester bullerfarnienter...
Le genre de la photo ci-jointe, non ?
Oui.
(c'est trop dur quand elles sont un mur, et avec une voiture de loc, elles le sont)
Je sais...
Là je cherche plutot un lieu de villégiature maritime pour bullerfarnienter
Je ne pense pas. Tu sais, dans une heure, il y a dix bonnes grosses averses qui mouillent, qui durent chacune quatre minutes. Il y a bien une plage (galets) à quelques kilomètres de la frontière. Tu peux te garer sur la bande d'arrêt d'urgence - comme tout le monde - et aller observer les bains de mer alatürka ; de là à rester bullerfarnienter...
Le genre de la photo ci-jointe, non ?
Oui.
(c'est trop dur quand elles sont un mur, et avec une voiture de loc, elles le sont)
Je sais...
Tu sais, dans une heure, il y a dix bonnes grosses averses qui mouillent, qui durent chacune quatre minutes.
Ca une fois que tu es dans l'eau, mouillé pour mouillé... tant qu'il ne fait pas froid. Mais bon :
Il y a bien une plage (galets) à quelques kilomètres de la frontière. Tu peux te garer sur la bande d'arrêt d'urgence - comme tout le monde - et aller observer les bains de mer alatürka ; de là à rester bullerfarnienter...
c'est rédhibitoire... (si tu entends davantage les voitures que le bruissement des vagues cela n'a plus aucun intéret)
Tant pis !
Merci à toi et à ceux qui ont pris la peine de me répondre 🙂
Catherine
Ca une fois que tu es dans l'eau, mouillé pour mouillé... tant qu'il ne fait pas froid. Mais bon :
Il y a bien une plage (galets) à quelques kilomètres de la frontière. Tu peux te garer sur la bande d'arrêt d'urgence - comme tout le monde - et aller observer les bains de mer alatürka ; de là à rester bullerfarnienter...
c'est rédhibitoire... (si tu entends davantage les voitures que le bruissement des vagues cela n'a plus aucun intéret)
Tant pis !
Merci à toi et à ceux qui ont pris la peine de me répondre 🙂
Catherine
Bonjour Catherine,
Il y a des hotels dans une ville de 16 000 habitants sur les bords de la Mer Noire ?
Certainement.
Michel
Il y a des hotels dans une ville de 16 000 habitants sur les bords de la Mer Noire ?
Certainement.
Michel
Je pense qu'ils ont des chambres libres sans problème, même en juillet ; de toutes façons ils ont du turn-over, si tu vois ce que je veux dire.
Michel
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- Athens, 4 nights - Corinth area, 2 nights (Heraion of Perachora, Canal, Acrocorinth) - Nafplio, 3 nights (Mycenae, Epidaurus, Methana peninsula) - Gefira, 2 nights (Monemvasia) - Areopoli, 2 nights (Mani). Maybe add an extra night and stay on the peninsula??? Based on my calculations, the Mani loop is about 100 km—doable in a day, but it’d be a quick trip. - Sparta or Pikoulianika, 2 nights (Mystras) - Dimitsana, 2 nights (Lousios Gorge, monasteries) - Olympia, 2 nights (via Lagkadia?) - Delphi or Arachova, 3 nights (via the west coast, Galaxidi bridge) (Delphi, Hosios Loukas Monastery) - And back to Athens.
This is just a rough draft for now. We’re planning to stay in hotels or book through Booking.com. What do you think? Thanks for your feedback and suggestions!
- Athens, 4 nights - Corinth area, 2 nights (Heraion of Perachora, Canal, Acrocorinth) - Nafplio, 3 nights (Mycenae, Epidaurus, Methana peninsula) - Gefira, 2 nights (Monemvasia) - Areopoli, 2 nights (Mani). Maybe add an extra night and stay on the peninsula??? Based on my calculations, the Mani loop is about 100 km—doable in a day, but it’d be a quick trip. - Sparta or Pikoulianika, 2 nights (Mystras) - Dimitsana, 2 nights (Lousios Gorge, monasteries) - Olympia, 2 nights (via Lagkadia?) - Delphi or Arachova, 3 nights (via the west coast, Galaxidi bridge) (Delphi, Hosios Loukas Monastery) - And back to Athens.
This is just a rough draft for now. We’re planning to stay in hotels or book through Booking.com. What do you think? Thanks for your feedback and suggestions!
Over the past twenty-five years, I’ve traveled the roads between France and Moldova a good ten times, sometimes via Central Europe, other times via the Balkans.
It was while traveling like this—what I call "hitting the road the slow way"—that I realized something simple: our neighbors' neighbors are very clearly our neighbors too. And that’s not insignificant.
Proof: https://etreounepasetrebretillien.com/2018/03/19/moldova-mea/ 🤓
After a break of a few years, I’m planning to hit the road again in September, this time heading to Kosovo, crossing through Bosnia-Herzegovina and Montenegro.
Having gotten a bit older, I’ve no intention of rushing—no need to speed ahead of the music! 😄
I’d rather take my time.
I’m not looking to see everything, but to soak in the atmosphere of the places, always leaving room for the unexpected and for encounters.
I’m especially drawn to culturally immersive, authentic, and welcoming regions: lively villages, backroads, preserved landscapes, markets, local festivals, traditions that are still very much alive... and, why not, a few offbeat, forgotten, or slightly secret spots.
If any of you know Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, or Kosovo a little, I’d love to hear your suggestions for itineraries, stops, backroads, homestays, village festivals, or local contacts, for example.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
It was while traveling like this—what I call "hitting the road the slow way"—that I realized something simple: our neighbors' neighbors are very clearly our neighbors too. And that’s not insignificant.
Proof: https://etreounepasetrebretillien.com/2018/03/19/moldova-mea/ 🤓
After a break of a few years, I’m planning to hit the road again in September, this time heading to Kosovo, crossing through Bosnia-Herzegovina and Montenegro.
Having gotten a bit older, I’ve no intention of rushing—no need to speed ahead of the music! 😄
I’d rather take my time.
I’m not looking to see everything, but to soak in the atmosphere of the places, always leaving room for the unexpected and for encounters.
I’m especially drawn to culturally immersive, authentic, and welcoming regions: lively villages, backroads, preserved landscapes, markets, local festivals, traditions that are still very much alive... and, why not, a few offbeat, forgotten, or slightly secret spots.
If any of you know Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, or Kosovo a little, I’d love to hear your suggestions for itineraries, stops, backroads, homestays, village festivals, or local contacts, for example.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Planning to return to Belarus in mid-August, I just realized that since last September, Poland has reopened several border crossing points, and for buses, this means connections like Białystok-Grodno.
The official Polish page: https://granica.gov.pl/index_wait.php?p=b&c=t&v=pl&k=w

Several bus company routes, like on infobus.eu, take between 3 and 4 hours. Trains from Warsaw to Białystok take about 1.5 to 2 hours. This has the advantage of allowing comfortable train journeys with minimal time spent on a bus. Also, the Terespol-Brest border might have shorter queues if you still prefer a Warsaw-Brest bus.
Note that another route to Minsk, if you have a paper Russian or Belarusian visa, is the Kaliningrad-Minsk train. It’s long—around ten or eleven hours—but you can lie down and sleep. An option if you fly into Gdańsk and then take a short bus to Kaliningrad.
There are also Belavia flights from Minsk to Kaliningrad, but they’re expensive. The route is scenic:

In any case, this adds a few more options compared to what’s been available over the last four years.
The official Polish page: https://granica.gov.pl/index_wait.php?p=b&c=t&v=pl&k=w

Several bus company routes, like on infobus.eu, take between 3 and 4 hours. Trains from Warsaw to Białystok take about 1.5 to 2 hours. This has the advantage of allowing comfortable train journeys with minimal time spent on a bus. Also, the Terespol-Brest border might have shorter queues if you still prefer a Warsaw-Brest bus.
Note that another route to Minsk, if you have a paper Russian or Belarusian visa, is the Kaliningrad-Minsk train. It’s long—around ten or eleven hours—but you can lie down and sleep. An option if you fly into Gdańsk and then take a short bus to Kaliningrad.
There are also Belavia flights from Minsk to Kaliningrad, but they’re expensive. The route is scenic:

In any case, this adds a few more options compared to what’s been available over the last four years.
Hi there.
I’d like to know what the daily budget is for Greece in December. I’ll be landing in Athens and staying there for a week, then heading to some other islands—I don’t have a set itinerary yet. Also, I’ve heard that in December, or early January, the temperature is around 11–16°C. Is that accurate?
Finally, does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap but clean hotel near the tourist sites? I don’t need a TV or any other extras. Also, is Greece gay-friendly?
Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards
Finally, does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap but clean hotel near the tourist sites? I don’t need a TV or any other extras. Also, is Greece gay-friendly?
Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards
hi
I’d like to know the opening hours of physical stores between Germany and Austria, and between Austria and Slovenia, that sell the PAPER STICKER toll vignettes that still exist for 2026—non-digital ones. I don’t think they’re open 24/7, and I can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks
I’d like to know the opening hours of physical stores between Germany and Austria, and between Austria and Slovenia, that sell the PAPER STICKER toll vignettes that still exist for 2026—non-digital ones. I don’t think they’re open 24/7, and I can’t find the info anywhere. Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week trip in late September with our camper van to explore Bulgaria and Romania.
What routes would you recommend, starting from the South?
Is there an option to take a ferry in Italy, and is it worth it?
Thanks for all your tips!😊
Hi there, we’re a young couple and we’d love to go to the Blue Eye (Syri i Kalter) between today (26/06/26) and tomorrow (27/06/26).
Is anyone heading there and could give us a ride? We’re super friendly!
Thanks so much!
Maya and Sullivan
Maya and Sullivan
We're back. It's still a bit tough to get precise info, so here's a quick trip report!
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
We’re a Canadian couple, both 77, and we’re already planning our vacation for fall 2027.
Timeframe: mid-September to mid-October... dates are flexible, and we might stay even longer.
Initially, I had planned this itinerary:
Athens (3), Naxos (4), Paros (4), Santorini (4), then a flight to Istanbul (7–10 days!!). This would let us maximize our flights and experience another culture.
That’s a lot of ferries, though... I’ve already cut out Milos.
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Hi there!
We bought our tickets to Greece at the end of November 2025, and let’s just say the geopolitical climate has really taken a turn since then with the war started by the United States against Iran. Not to mention all the other conflicts happening around the world 😕... Anyway!
Our flight from Montreal is on May 1st, and I was wondering how things are currently being experienced in Greece.
We were planning to rent a car and had already booked accommodations on three Cyclades islands!!
The oil shortage is also worrying us...
If you could share some insights on this, that would be great!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
A little trip report from an 11-day journey to Albania at the end of April 2026, with two friends in their early sixties and beyond...
Our route: Berat, Gjirokastër, Himarë, Tirana
Here are some opinions, tips, and great deals to share:
Flight Round-trip Beauvais-Tirana: Ryanair, 260 € with checked baggage (20 kg) and seat selection. Flight was fine and on time. 2h 30min flight.
Exchange: 1 € was worth 95 lek in April 2026. We were advised to exchange in the airport hall at the Illiria counter (98 lek outside the security zone), saying we wouldn’t find a better rate. However, the exchange rate was 93 lek for 1 euro, while in the city it was 95...
Car rental at Tirana airport for 9 days via Booking.com: 144 € (56 € for the car rental and 88 € for optional full insurance deductible waiver).
Wheego agency: the car was fine, but be careful when signing the contract—they tried to convince us that the insurance taken through Booking didn’t cover everything and insisted we take their own insurance for 250 €... We refused.
After reading about driving in Tirana, instead of starting our trip by visiting the capital, we decided to head straight to Berat upon arrival and return the car at the end of the trip to explore the city on foot. This turned out to be a great choice!
Accommodations: All our stays were booked via Booking.com. Everyone prefers to be paid in euros and in cash—they mention this when booking.
Berat: 2-hour drive from the airport.
Accommodation: Vila Arben Elezi: 135 € for 3 nights with breakfast and private parking. The room was decent and clean but a bit dark, located slightly below ground level near the parking. However, the breakfast on the rooftop was excellent, especially with the stunning view of the "city of a thousand windows." Great location.
Berat was our favorite—there are lovely walks through the different neighborhoods on both sides of the river, each with a very different vibe. The citadel visit is also fascinating, as it’s like a small town within the fortress.
The walk along the river is pleasant, with plenty of restaurant choices. Other restaurants in the old town are also very nice. The White House Restaurant, on the first floor along the road, is good and offers a great view of the Gorica district.
Gjirokastër:
Accommodation: Te Ajdini Guest House: 120 € for 3 nights with breakfast. A private home stay. There’s free parking just before entering the city, a 5-minute walk from the accommodation, which is very convenient since the cobblestone streets are narrow and parking is tricky. Yes, it’s a climb to get to the place, but everything in this city is uphill... The room was bright and clean. Breakfast was very good, hearty, and served in the courtyard with a view of the castle. The guesthouse is a 5-minute walk from the city center (the bazaar) but in a quiet area.
Restaurants: Rrapi and Kujtimi—good and affordable with their little pergolas.
The old town of Gjirokastër is charming but very touristy, with streets packed with souvenir shops and restaurant tables and chairs. Lots of people.
-The bunker visit (near the tourist office) is very interesting: Cold War Tunnel.
The castle offers a beautiful view of the city.
-Visit to the Ottoman house Skenduli: very well done. Don’t forget to climb the ladder facing a trapdoor in the ceiling to see the roof’s framework—it’s like a forest of beams: impressive!
-The bridge Ura e Ali Pasha: A steep 45-minute climb from the city to the site is worth it, but once you reach the viewpoint (which is stunning), you have to go back down a path to reach the bridge. You can drive to the viewpoint, but parking is very tricky.
Around Gjirokastër:
-Just outside the city: Lake Liqeni i Viroit: a nice, ordinary-looking lake, but at the end, there’s a natural spring making the water crystal clear and a brilliant blue—really spectacular, like photos of Blue Eye near Sarandë.
-Drive to Përmet along the gorges: beautiful viewpoints along the way and lovely countryside.
Himarë:
Accommodation: Vila Kosteli: 120 € for 2 nights with breakfast—slightly overpriced for this type of place but very close to a small beach and not far from the promenade with all the restaurants. Private parking, but very tight (4 cars on a tiny lot along the road). The "sea view" room is a bit obstructed by the building across the street. However, the rooftop breakfast view is beautiful. Friendly staff.
Himarë is a pleasant seaside resort, quite calm (but it was April...). There’s a cute promenade with restaurants along the beach. The castle on the heights of Himarë is worth a visit.
Around Himarë:
-Qeparo is worth a quick stop, but Qeparo village is really worth the detour: a village lost in the heights after a scenic drive up from the coastal road—narrow but well-maintained. Beautiful view from the top and a charming village.
-The Big Bunker and Llogora Panorama: take a right turn several kilometers after Dhermi—a road that climbs steeply from the start... A breathtaking winding road that reaches 900 meters in altitude. The view is stunning.
-Several small villages between Dhermi and Himarë are worth a quick stop.
-Porto Palermo Castle is somewhat disappointing.
Tirana:
Taxi from Tirana airport to the city center: 15 € with electric taxis (Green Taxi, Bee Taxi, Do Taxi).
Accommodation: Hotel Nevi Apartment: 63 € for 2 nights. A private apartment in an older building but very clean and well-equipped, with a kitchen and small enclosed balcony.
Great welcome and contact—the owner even booked a taxi for our departure. Very well located, close to the main square, shops, and restaurants. A small supermarket nearby is perfect for stocking up on breakfast supplies.
The city is lively and dynamic, with plenty of green spaces and promenades. Buildings are popping up everywhere, often with surprising architecture—like a building shaped like a face, a huge golden cube, and many others under construction.
-Sky Tower: at the top, a rotating bar offers a 360° view of the city and its buildings. Drinks are a bit pricier than usual, but it’s totally worth it (6 € for a beer or a glass of white wine, 3 € for coffee). We were there for sunset, and it was amazing! A must-do. Arrive early, as it fills up quickly.
-The House of Leaves: a house used for secret surveillance and interrogations during the dictatorship... A great way to learn about the surveillance systems of that era.
-Bunk’Art 2: a bunker in the heart of the city—very interesting, covering the dictatorship period and its system...
-The Pazari i Ri Bazaar: the new bazaar district. The large hall is worth a visit, but souvenir prices are often higher than elsewhere... The area is nice.
Restaurant: Kastrati Restaurant—a bit like a canteen with lots of traditional dishes. It’s on the first floor of a building. Excellent value for money, and the waitress explains the dishes in French.
That’s a little overview of our trip and my personal impressions! Albania is a beautiful and pleasant country to visit. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
That’s a little overview of our trip and my personal impressions! Albania is a beautiful and pleasant country to visit. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
What are the main sights to visit on Rhodes itself or the surrounding islands, and what’s the weather like? We’re leaving on May 18th.
Hi everyone,
We’re thinking of spending 3 weeks in Crete between mid-August and early September, renting a car, quickly exploring a few spots in the east, and focusing on the west, southwest, and south.
I’m worried about the heavy tourist crowds. Is it really more noticeable than elsewhere in Greece? Is there a way to avoid the crowds without missing out on the iconic places, which I imagine are stunning in Crete? Thanks for your thoughts and experiences!







