Hi,
I’m traveling with my 13-year-old son in June and July 2025 for 6 weeks—2 weeks in Flores and 4 in Sulawesi. I don’t want a super "roots" trip because long transport times eat up too much time, so I’d prefer to use only private or shared drivers whenever possible since I’ve read that public transport really slows you down. That said, I don’t want to hire the same driver for the whole trip because I think it’d be way over budget.
My first question is about transport times and approximate costs. I’d like to double-check the times I’ve seen because it’s not clear to me whether they’re for private vehicles or public buses:
- Labuan Bajo – Denge (Wae Rebo): 5–6 hours ????
- Denge – Ruteng: 3 hours ????
- Ruteng – Bajawa: 4 hours ????
- Bajawa – Moni (Kelimutu Volcano): 3.5 hours ????
- Moni – Koka Beach: 1.5 hours ????
- Maumere – Koka Beach: 2 hours ????
My second question is about the Maumere–Makassar ferry. It’s impossible to find a clear answer—PELNI’s website shows only about 2 ferries per month, but Rome2Rio mentions a daily departure (with a return the next day, like the Labuan Bajo–Makassar route, I assume). I’d really like to avoid flying since it’s so expensive on this route.
My third question: I’ve read that flight tickets are more expensive when bought from France than from Indonesia. Has anyone else heard this?
Thanks so much for your help! This is my first post on the forum in ages, so I hope the length doesn’t scare anyone off.
My first question is about travel times and approximate fares. I’d like to check the times I’ve seen because it’s not clear to me—do those times correspond to private vehicles or public buses?
- Labuan Bajo – Denge (Wae Rebo) 5-6 h ????
- Denge – Ruteng 3 h ????
- Ruteng – Bajawa 4 h ????
- Bajawa – Moni (Kelimutu Volcano) 3 h 30 ????
- Moni – Koka Beach 1 h 30 ????
- Maumere – Koka Beach 2 h ????
Here are the approximate travel times (can vary by an hour or so either way) by bus for some of the routes you mentioned:
Labuan Bajo – Ruteng: 4 h
Ruteng – Bajawa: 5 h
Bajawa – Moni: 8 h (with a connection in Ende that might not be possible on the same day).
Moni – Maumere: 3 h
I’ve never done these routes by car, but even though it’s probably faster, expect long hours on the road anyway.
because the travel times waste a lot of time
Is chatting with the other local passengers really a waste of time? Enjoy your trip locked in a car, then...
My second question is about the Maumere–Makassar ferry: I can’t find a clear answer because the Pelni website shows about two ferries a month, while Rome2Rio mentions a departure every day (one way and return the next day, like the Labuan Bajo–Makassar route, I imagine). I’d like to avoid the flight option, which is very expensive for this route.
Yes, Pelni.
But your info about ferries (other than Pelni) existing between Maumere or Labuan Bajo and Makassar is surprising—could you share the pages where you found that, please?
Flights are expensive because they’re not direct and require one (in Kupang) or even two connections (+ Denpasar), depending on the day of the week.
My third question: I’ve read that flight tickets are more expensive when bought from France than from Indonesia. Has anyone else heard this?
It’s not just for flights—it’s the case for most tourist services in general, no matter the destination country.
Hi, I completely agree with Songsam. Traveling by car cuts you off from the locals in Flores, who are one of the island’s greatest treasures. I’ve done both in Flores and I much preferred using public transport. That said, if you don’t change your mind, don’t stress about it now—you’ll find solutions as you go at each accommodation.
Hi Marie, thanks for your reply! I’ll check if I can do a mix of ridesharing for long distances and local buses for shorter hops. I’ll admit, though, that travel blogs about Flores don’t exactly motivate me to take local buses—some routes take 10 hours! Even though I love chatting with locals and agree those are the best experiences, I really don’t feel like spending whole days in transit, especially with my 13-year-old son who might lose it.
I’d love to travel like long-term backpackers without worrying about time 😅. Plus, it leaves more time for chatting during homestays or sightseeing 😊
Hi Songsam,
Thanks so much for your reply. The info I saw on travel blogs about Flores, which mentioned very long journeys for certain distances, had put me off taking the bus (often between 7 and 12 hours). From what you're saying, that doesn't seem to be the case at all, so I'll rethink my plans for the shorter trips. I'd love not to worry about time, but I'm not a long-term traveler, so unfortunately, my reality is that I try to optimize things even more since I'll be with my 13-year-old son. I can hardly make him endure full-day trips, especially since we're heading to Sulawesi afterward, where we'll spend a lot of time in transport. Far from me the idea of wanting to be alone in my car or thinking I'd waste time with the people of Flores—but luckily, exchanges don't just happen on the bus, or at least I hope so.
Anyway, I’ll keep your advice in mind about buying flight tickets.
For ferries, I saw this info on the Rome2Rio site: 1 ferry per day from Labuan Bajo to Makassar and 1 ferry per day from Maumere to Makassar. It seems tight from Labuan Bajo, so I think I’ll do it that way because the idea of spending a full day and a night sharing the experience with Indonesians really appeals to me—proof that you shouldn’t form opinions too quickly or too harshly about people based on forum posts! 😅
I’m jumping into this thread because I also need info on transportation in Flores: any recommendations for websites or apps to find details on local buses (schedules, routes, etc.)? Or is it always necessary to ask around once you’re there?
For transportation, it's easier to arrange everything on the spot—whether it's buses, shared cars, or private ones—because the schedule info is very unlikely to be up to date.
For ferries, I saw this info on the Rome2Rio site: 1 ferry per day Labuan Bajo-Makassar and 1 ferry per day Maumere-Makassar.
I checked the site myself: sure enough, it says that, but I don’t believe it for a second.
You shouldn’t rely on Rome2Rio or other sites like 12Go as reference sources because the info there is often wrong and/or incomplete when you venture into remote areas.
For example, if you look up transport from Labuan Bajo to Bajawa, Rome2Rio only lists flights, taxis, or cars—even though there are buses. Why doesn’t the site mention them? Because they’re regular buses (the slow, local kind) that, unlike flights, taxis, or cars, can’t be booked in advance, so they don’t earn Rome2Rio a commission. That’s the real purpose of these kinds of sites.
Yes:
The day before, check with your accommodation (for example) about the bus departure time, which will likely be approximate. When it's time to leave, arrive at the bus station (or whatever serves as one) a bit early (30 minutes to 1 hour...) compared to the time you were given the day before, then buy your ticket and wait. You won’t truly know the bus departure time until it starts moving.
Also, keep in mind the following:
- Buses are generally few and tend to leave in the morning (understandable given the travel times, as they rarely run at night),
- It’s common for some drivers to wait until the bus is sufficiently full before leaving,
- The bus might leave earlier than scheduled if it fills up before the set time (hence my advice above to arrive earlier than planned),
- Just because the bus starts moving doesn’t mean it’s immediately heading out of town—if there aren’t enough passengers, it might make a (slow) loop around the city, honking to gather more people.
There are buses along the main road that crosses the island from Labuan Bajo to Larantuka, as well as public transport on the routes Ruteng-Reo, Bajawa-Riung, and Riung-Ende, but not on the coastal "road" between Reo and Riung.
For anyone with the odd idea of taking the main road its entire length, it wouldn’t be possible without planning connections in Bajawa, Ende, and Maumere.
For those with more time than money, (more comfortable) buses run from Labuan Bajo to Bali.
Thanks to both of you for the replies—it’s exactly what I thought, but since my last trip to Indonesia was 15 years ago, I figured things might have changed...
No worries, we’ll improvise based on the info we get on the ground. I’ll only book our first two nights in Labuan Bajo and sketch out a rough ideal itinerary that we can adjust as we go.
I’m leaving in two weeks (not peak season yet), so I don’t think we’ll struggle to find last-minute accommodation. I’ll take Marifb’s advice and play it by ear, step by step.
We managed in Bali, in the middle of August and with no reservations, so it should work out off-season in Flores...
@Vaness77 I’ll post some updates when I get back—might be useful for you!
Hi
It seems there’s a boat that leaves from Riung for Sulawesi.
I don’t know if it still exists, but I spotted it when I was there a few years ago. That was back in 2017–2018
Thanks again for your reply! I was initially checking Rome2Rio for a rough idea, but you're right—it doesn’t seem to account for real-world conditions. I think I’ll figure it out when I get there. 😊
For homestays or guesthouses, nothing in particular—there are several nice ones, but no guarantee they’re a must-see spot. Check the reviews. The only place I *really* recommend is Sunset Cottages or Lena House near Maumere because it’s a great starting point for snorkeling, and you’ll only find them if you know their names since they’re a bit far from Maumere, which isn’t all that interesting in itself (like many Indonesian towns).
Boats are cheap there, but of course, you’ll have to share with others. You eat better at Sunset than at Lena. You can swim on-site, but the best thing is to take a boat to reach some great spots.
I also recommend starting in Maumere so you can finish with a bang—snorkeling or diving with Komodo!
I’m heading to Flores around mid-May. If you don’t mind, I’ll reach out a little before then to get some tips (since you’ll be there before me).
Enjoy your trip!
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I don’t know about you, but I’m a huge fan of markets. No matter where I go, in every country or city I visit, I won’t leave without having seen one. I’m mostly talking about food markets. I love the smells, the colors, and watching people from all walks of life stroll around. It’s like a mirror of a country’s culture, and I love soaking it all in.
Thai markets are particularly appealing to me. In my province, there are so many. Maybe more than elsewhere—I’m not sure—but every day, you can find a "Talat Nat." These are traveling markets that set up in specific places on specific days. They only stay open for a few hours. Some attract more shoppers than others because they have more stalls and a wider variety of products. Sometimes, they’re set up in pretty unusual spots: temples, roadside, even on train tracks...
On top of these, there are also markets in the city that stay open all day.
I’d love for you to share your photos of markets, local product stalls, and why not, let’s talk about gastronomy and cuisine too!
I’ll start with my favorite market—it’s 8 kilometers from my place and happens every Tuesday from 2 PM to 5 PM. I never miss a Tuesday unless there’s a downpour... 😉 It’s located in the countryside, in a village famous for its coffee (ThamSing), and inside the grounds of a slightly unusual temple. It’s easy to get to—over the past 10 years, the roads have been paved, which wasn’t the case before and made the trip a bit risky when it rained...
In the first two photos, you’ll see the temple courtyard on a normal day, without the market.
Hello fellow travelers, and thanks to everyone for keeping this blog alive!
It’s my turn to ask a question.
For our trip to Laos next year, I’m torn between using a local agency or organizing everything myself with the Lonely Planet guide and tips from VoyageForum.
If I plan it myself, will I still be able to find French-speaking guides on the spot or book excursions in advance?
Thanks for sharing your experiences, and if you have any recommendations for local agencies—just for excursions or even transportation—that’d be great!
Sylvie
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We're heading out at the end of the year to join family in Cebu. We're planning to spend a week in the area but are struggling to choose between these 3 islands... Ideally, we'd like to have 2 bases to explore two of them. Have any of you visited all three, and which would you recommend? We're into snorkeling, beautiful excursions, and would also love to connect with locals. And ideally, do all that without too much logistical hassle 😅
Thanks for your experiences/tips!
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam with my partner, and we’re considering Ha Giang in October-November for 4 days on-site to do the loop by bus, since we’re not old enough to ride motorbikes.
I see there are sleeper buses—how does that work for sleeping at night, meals, etc.? And what are the rates per person for these 4 days and nights?
Then there’s Sapa—what’s the most practical way to travel between the two, or should we return to Hanoi?
I’d love recommendations for simple but decent hotels and any other tips you have.
Thanks so much! !
Hi,
Is it useful to rent a car from Puerto Princesa to get to El Nido? Are there any nice stops along the way?
I read that once you arrive in El Nido, most of the beaches and sights are accessed by boat, so I'm wondering if this rental is really worth it...
Thanks for your help
We’re 49 years old, love beautiful landscapes, meeting locals, discovering local food and traditions, and we avoid overly touristy places.
We enjoy hiking, cycling, running, and diving.
This is our first time in Thailand (my husband knows Bangkok).
We arrive on Friday, November 13th in Bangkok (city visit) and return on Friday, November 27th.
We’re considering heading south (possibly toward Krabi) from the 14th to the 18th to enjoy the beautiful beaches, go diving, and see Khao Sok...
Then back to Bangkok and on to Kanchanaburi to see the Sai Yok Noi waterfalls, followed by a bike visit to Ayutthaya.
From there, we’d take an overnight train to the north: Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, and the Lantern Festival from November 21st to 25th.
On the 26th, we’d take a flight from Chiang Mai to Bangkok (city visit), and on the 27th, we have our flight back to France.
Does this itinerary seem too packed?
Should we remove some things to avoid feeling rushed and fully enjoy the trip?
Do you recommend anything other than Krabi?
Hello.
We’re joining our daughter in Ho Chi Minh City for Christmas—she’s studying there. There’ll be five of us adults, and we couldn’t choose our travel dates, so some flights are fixed. I’ve sketched out the following route, but I’m not sure if it all makes sense. This is our fourth trip to Asia (Thailand twice, Lombok, Kuala Lumpur, and Singapore). We often travel on a budget, love authentic spots, and enjoy meeting locals (we’ve done volunteer work and homestays).
18/12: Two of us arrive in HCMC
20/12: Head to Hanoi, where the boys land
20/12 to 23 or 24: Hanoi and day trips around—still deciding
23 or 24 to 26: Phu Quoc, so we can head south and spend Christmas by the beach (one son is crazy about the sea and fishing)
27 to 30: Mekong Delta, stopping in Ha Tien, Chau Doc, and another spot to get back to Ho Chi Minh City
1/1: Return flight to France.
What do you think of this plan—is it doable or totally unrealistic? Any recommendations for a one- or two-day trip from Hanoi (Phu Long, Mai Chau), or is it better to stick around the city?
Thanks in advance for your insights.
I’m planning a 28-day trip to the Philippines starting in the second half of April, and I’m skipping all the super touristy spots.
I’ve got some ideas, but they’re still a bit vague and scattered, and I’d love your help and tips to finalize my itinerary.
For this trip, I’m mostly looking for architecture, ancestral homes, cultural discoveries, local crafts, exceptional natural sites, and islands with beautiful, less crowded beaches—especially avoiding international tourists.
So here are my ideas, and I’d really appreciate your advice:
1- Surigao del Sur, if security allows: the Enchanted River in Hinatuan and Tinuy-an Falls in Bislig City.
2- Iloilo City, Bacolod, Silay
3- The Heritage Town of Taal
4- Banaue and Batad
5- Romblon Island (Bonbon Beach and the marble workshops in Romblon town)
6- Bolinao Falls and Hundred Islands in Pangasinan
7- Baguio, Vigan, Laoag, and Pagudpud (Saud Beach and/or Blue Lagoon)
8- Guimaras Island, Samal Island, and Dinagat Island
I know logistically it’s impossible to cover all the spots I’ve listed in 28 days, which is why I’m counting on your advice to drop a few destinations that might not be worth the detour and highlight the must-sees.
Thanks in advance
Hi,
We're planning to visit this region as a couple for a few days during our trip to Vietnam.
What should we do with 3 to 4 days there, and how can we get around to the different spots?
Should we return to Sapa every day or stay in different places each night?
Any tips on accommodations, dining, and must-see sites?
Also, advice on traveling from Hanoi to Sapa.
Thanks so much for helping us prepare for this autumn 2027 trip!
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We're planning a little trip along the west side, visiting KL, Malacca, then heading up to Penang and ending with a few days at the beach.
The most common option would be to finish the stay in Langkawi. My question: are there other spots with beautiful beaches on this coast where we could spend 4 to 5 days?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I’d like to know if it’s possible (and reasonable) to travel directly between Battambang and Kampot?
From what I’ve gathered, all the buses between these two destinations go back through Phnom Penh, which means we’d have to spend an extra night there in the middle of our trip. That’s not ideal for us.
Hello, South Sulawesi loop: Makassar-Ramang Ramang-Rantepao-Sengkang-Lake Tempe-Bira. Which direction should I take for this loop, starting and ending in Makassar?
Public transport preferred, and about 3 weeks in total.
Any nice homestays? And tips for solo travel?
Thanks, Françoise
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
After a stay in Hua Hin and before another in Chiang Mai, I’d like to break up the trip from Bangkok to Chiang Mai into several stops. I’ve found bus and train routes on Maps, but I’m stuck on the connection between Ban Rai / Uthai Thani and then Nakhon Sawan (bus for the latter).
Does anyone have any idea where I could find info, maybe via Route 333?
I know my question isn’t super general or exciting, but if you can help, thanks!
Hi there,
We’re planning a backpacking trip to Northern Malaysia and northern Sumatra in February/March 2027. It’ll be our first time in these areas (we’re pretty familiar with the rest of Asia). Thanks in advance for your favorite spots and diving recommendations! It’s still very open-ended—we haven’t set anything in stone yet.
Thanks,
I’d like to do a kind of personal retreat this winter and I’m looking for a destination near the sea (preferably an island) that’s quiet. Is that possible in Thailand, or should I consider another destination?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Dayi
This September, my partner and I are heading to North Sulawesi for 3 weeks. Our international flight is with Malaysia Airlines, departing from Paris. We have a layover in KL, then fly to Denpasar, followed by a domestic flight from Denpasar to Manado. We land in Bali Denpasar on 05/09 around 12:00 PM, and our flight to Manado is on 07/09 at 1:30 AM. The plan was to have at least one night (from the 5th to the 6th of September) between our international flight and our flight to Manado, just to recharge a bit since we're not 20 anymore 😛. My question is, given the very short stop in Bali (a day and a half), is it better to stay in Denpasar rather than go to Ubud for the night? I’ve been to Bali before, and from what I remember, even though the distances are short, transfers take a long time because of the extremely heavy traffic—but I was there in July, not September. I’m not sure if that makes a big difference?
If the answer is "it’s better to stay in Denpasar," are there any nice places to visit? There’s very little feedback about the city since tourists usually don’t stick around.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hello everyone! I’m heading off solo in February and wanted to share my rough itinerary with you. Does this sound doable?
PS: I’m not really into beaches.
D1 Departure on February 17, 2027
D2 Arrival in Kuala Lumpur – stroll through Chinatown and visit the Petronas Towers
D3: Kuala Lumpur – Chow Kit Market, Batu Caves, Little India, Bukit Bintang downtown area
D4: Early morning bus to Malacca. Explore Malacca in the afternoon and evening
D5: Another 2–3 hours in Malacca in the morning, then bus back to Kuala Lumpur. Merdeka Square area. Stay in Chinatown
D6: Bus trip to Kuala Tahan. Night tour
D7: Morning – canopy walk and Bukit Terisek hike. Afternoon – off to Lata Berkoh
D8 & D9: 2-day jungle trek in Taman Negara National Park
D10: Head to Cameron Highlands
D11: Morning hike through the plantations. Afternoon still to be decided
D12: Morning – excursion to Mossy Forest and Sungei Plantation. Afternoon bus to Ipoh
D13: Morning – Mirror Lake / Sam Poh Temple area. Afternoon – explore downtown Ipoh
D14: Morning train to Penang. Afternoon – wander around Georgetown
D15: Morning – Penang Hill and Keh Loh Temple. Afternoon – Georgetown
D16: Bus to Butterfly Garden and Spice Garden. Late afternoon – Burmese and Thai temples
D17: Morning flight to Singapore. Afternoon – Chinatown and Marina Bay tour
D18: Morning – Gardens by the Bay area. Afternoon – Boat Quay, Clarke Quay, Kampong Glam
D19: Morning – The Ridges area and Botanical Garden. Afternoon – Little India, then back to Chinatown before 11:15 PM return flight
D20: Morning arrival
Hi everyone.
I’m heading to Malaysia for five weeks over the holiday season.
I just found out that tourists can pay by QR code like locals (street food, small shops) to avoid using cash.
This works with apps like Wise or TNG eWallet.
Has anyone tried this system before?
Hi, I’ve read that these two volcanoes are super popular and that there are *tons* of people for sunrise, especially in July. I’m looking for firsthand accounts from anyone who’s done it later, around 9–10 a.m.
Thanks for your help!
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First stop on our discovery of the peninsula: Amphawa. It’s our first night in Thailand (we arrived at Suvarnabhumi at 8:50 AM).
Our initial plan was to explore the area before heading further south. The Mae Klong Railway Market is tempting... but what else is there to do????
We’ll be there on a Wednesday, and from what I’ve read on the forum, some say there’s absolutely nothing to do during the week—no floating market, barely any shops open, no restaurants, etc.
Others, though, say the place is actually more charming without the weekend crowds.
Could you share your thoughts? Missing the floating market is one thing, but if it’s really a ghost town on Wednesdays, I might just drop our bags somewhere else.
Amphawa seemed like a good first stop, just 1.5 hours from the airport, but I’d still like to settle somewhere a bit lively for our first evening.
We’ll be there at the end of October.
Thanks!
Hi,
I wanted to visit the plantations in the morning with GetYourGuide or by just showing up.
How much time should I really plan for?
I’d like to catch either the 3 PM or 5 PM bus back to KL.
Thanks
Hi,
I wanted to get some info about the cable car and the bridge—I see lots of different options...
How much time should we allow for these two activities? If we arrive around 4 PM, will we have enough time to visit without rushing?
Thanks
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.