nemo je suis désolée ce msg n'était pour toi pour les personnes qui me prennent pour une abrutie au contraire tes réponses m'ont plus que convenues et je t'en remercie encore dédolée
Bonjour,
Je crains que ton manque de modestie ne t'égare, et que la supériorité que tu as pu retirer de ton privilège d'avoir vécu et étudié en Europe, se transforme en mépris pour le marocain resté au bled.
J'ai eu des activités professionnelles pendant une dizaine d'années au Maroc, des contacts avec les professionnels marocains, et en particulier des achats à gèrer, et je n'ai jamais eu la moindre impression que mes interlocuteurs marocains, en particulier les commerciaux, étaient plus "fonctionnaires" que ceux que j'ai retrouvé en Europe quelques années plus tard (mon plus gros fournisseur était "France Télécom !!😉).
alors ok mais explique moi pourquoi tous les employeurs me disent cela ils en ont assez de l'incompétences des marocains et pourtant ceux sont eux même des marocains tout comme moi je n'ais aucun mépris vers les marocains seulement il faut être réaliste on ne peut proposer un poste de directeur de magazin ou directeur commercial à 2500dh avec une commision de 2% aujourd'hui j'ai reçu un appel d'un employeur que j'ai rencontré qui me propose une place à 8000dh avec une commision de 4% là je dit ok je n'ai jamais prétendu de salaire français au maroc mais il y a un minimum si toi tu as pu gérer tes employés marocains je te dit tant mieux seulement tu doit être d'accord avec moi que pour beaucoup et je dirais même que pour la plupart ils ont énormément de mal à gérer les marocains et là je pense que beaucoup me rejoindrons sur cette pensée et ils sont réputés pour ça je ne dit pas tous mais une grande partie
quand je suis partie de france la plus grosse inquiètude de mes parents a été la peur de me faire avoir par les marocains car ils sont trés filou et ne me dit pas le contraire moi je ne les méprise pas au contraire je les apprécies vraiment mais arrive un moment il y a des limites 😉
mais je ne vois pas trop la comparaison entre le salaire d'un medecin et d'un commercial car un commercial est payé au chiffre d'affaires qu'il genere. En france d'ailleurs, je connais des commerciaux en france qui gagne plus de 50 000euros/mensuel (qui sont loin d'avoir obtenu un doctorat)
je te remercie de ton soutien nemo je suis désolée pour les autres mais ce n'est pas que je prétendent quoi que ce soit au contraire quand je parle de cela je parle en général il sagit d'un poste de cadre que ce soit pour moi ou pour un autre on ne peut proposer un salaire aussi bas pour un poste tel que celui-ci c'est là où je reste réaliste.
pour ce qui est de marocains français ou autre il est vrai qu'une personne ayant un diplôme à l'étranger obtient généralement un salaire plus correct qu'une personne ayant un diplôme marocain et là encore je ne pense pas me tromper
Donc mon raisonnement est complétement compatible avec ce que j'espérais je ne demandais pas des millions mais juste un salaire par rapport au poste proposé.
Merci pour tous vos renseignements et toutes vos remarques😉
Sans arrière penser de ma part, dans ton résonnement tu n'inclus pas le fait que tu es une marocaine qui prospècte
un job au Maroc, pour l'employeur tu es une marocaine (pas une FR) qu'il payerait comme un ou une marocaine pour ce job, et ça se comprend 😉
Pour répondre au msg des autres qui continuent à me dire que je fais des fautes les gars réveillez vous j'ai besoin de personnes pour m'apprendre à écrire surtout que pour la pluparts quand vous me dites ça vous me faites rire parce que moi je fais des fautes mais elle sont faites expret comme je l'ai expliqué un peu plus haut c'est ce que l'on appel des abréviations d'écriture pour le net
Mais non, je t'assure, ce sont bien des fautes d'orthographe😉 (Quelques exemples en gras si tu permets).
un Directeur Commercial a qui on propose 2500 DH 😎
une chose des 2 :
- Soit tu n'a pas les qualifications que tu pretend.
- soit ceux qui te proposent ce salaire miserable ne veulent pas de toi.
un cadre Commercial ca touche au minimaum 8000 dh a son embauche + % . et ca peur aller jusqu'a 50.000 ou 60.000 selon le poste qu'il occupe.
2500 Dh c'est pour un commercial debutant et non pas un cadre.
Ps :Meme les etudiants qui bossent dans les Call-center touchent + de 4000 Dh , alors un DC toucher 2500 ... 😇
Faut juste bien chercher ... Inscris toi sur ces sites et postes tes CV
www.wanadoo.ma / www.menara.ma c'est très prometteur ! tu verras si tu es chanceuse .
moi je trouve que 2500 DHS est du n'importe quoi, mais bientot cette stratégie qui sert les entreprises ici va finir par une révolution contre les systémes de rémuneration au Maroc qui est injuste et stupide.
imaginons une boite qui réalise des chiffres d'affaires importants ils vendent leurs produits et services en € et en devises et avec des tarifs à l'européen et mieux parfois qu'en Europe et Amerique, et on paye des salaires de merde pour les Marocains.
moi personnellement j'ai harcelé 2 patrons lors de mes entretiens, car ils m'ont proposé ce fameux salaire, et j'ai sorti mes argumentaires et mes définitions de la rémunération et des salaires à savoir le resultat et le chiffre d'affaire et le secteur d'activités et la taille de l'entreprise... ils étaient pas contents car ils avaient l'habitude sur un genre qui accépte tout et n'importe quoi malheureusement...
mais bon, dommage pour cette stupide stratégie d'exploitation, moins d'impots et taxes par rapport à d'autres pays, , , et des salaires de merde, , , donc l'entreprise est la seule gagnante et l'employé n'a pas droit à réver et acheter une maison, il faut qu'il reste employé qui prend le bus, avec vélo et qui paye son loyer en fin de mois, sans évolution, alors que l'autre "Le patron" rachete une autre entreprise, élargie son activité, change de voiture et exploite du stupide systeme de notre pays, , , OHHH si j'été le premier ministre😉 je vais augmenter les salaires, ajouter d'autres taxes et impots sur les stupides riches et sur les stupides entreprises qui ne savent méme pas ca veut dire quoi (une entreprise citoyenne), ni social, ni rien, ils savent une seule chose: profiter du Maroc, et de la richesse, en passant par la richesse humaine qui fuit ce cauchemard pour trouver des endroits qui respecte l'employé et qui obligent l'entreprise à étre citoyenne et pas un JUNGLE comme chez nous.
c'est vraiment la JUNGLE le Maroc est un forét sauvage, le riche mange le pauvre, , , et les exploitants trouvent ça bien et commencent à exploiter...
chose certaine et sure, rien ne dure dans la vie, y aura des changement que se soit avec force ou avec paix, mais y aura des changement, et ceux qui ne veulenet pas changer cette loi de jungle avec paix ils le feront avec force.
2500 Dhs égale environ 240€, est ce qu'un Français peut accépter cette comedie, , , Ben Non, , , alors un Marocain aussi en a marre de ça.😉😉😉
l'entreprise est la seule gagnante et l'employé n'a pas droit à réver et acheter une maison, il faut qu'il reste employé qui prend le bus, avec vélo et qui paye son loyer en fin de mois, sans évolution, alors que l'autre "Le patron" rachete une autre entreprise, élargie son activité, change de voiture et exploite du stupide systeme de notre pays, , ,
Bonjour AtlasLion,
Ce qui tu dis est vrai, mais c'est malheureusement le cas dans TOUS les pays du monde ..............
C'est ce qu'on appelle la "lutte des classes" 😉
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