Treck au Népal avec un enfant de 12 ans
by Chine
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Nous aimerions faire un treck d'une 12 de jour en juillet au Nepal nous avions pense au Bhoutan mais trop cher pour nous.
Nous ne sommes pas des montagnards mais nous sommes sportifs.Nous aimerions decouvrir de beaux paysages dormir chez l'habitant et surtout ne pas rencontrer une horde de touristes à chaque detour .
Nous pensons peut etre qu'il ne faut pas depasser les 300 metres d"altitude et peut etre moins pour un premier periple.
Jai regarde un peu le routard il y a des propositions par exemple un treck dans la vallée de Katmendu j'ai lu aussi quelque chose sur un treck Gorepani
Voila j'aimarai avoir des avis et meme des sugestions de parcours
Merci
Chine
Nous pensons peut etre qu'il ne faut pas depasser les 300 metres d"altitude et peut etre moins pour un premier periple.
Alors je vous suggérerais plutôt la Vallée de la Mort ou la Hollande...
Alors je vous suggérerais plutôt la Vallée de la Mort ou la Hollande...
Juillet c'est en plein la mousson au Nepal, vraiment pas la periode pour un trek, a moins que vous ne vouliez degouter votre enfant de suite ? Regardez plutot le Ladakh, ou alors le Kyrgyzstan. A mon avis, un enfant de 12 ans est capable de faire n'importe quel trek dont vous etes aussi capables, a condition qu'il en ait l'envie (Je me base sur mes propres experiences de vacances en montagne quand j'etais enfant).
A mon avis, un enfant de 12 ans est capable de faire n'importe quel trek dont vous etes aussi capables, a condition qu'il en ait l'envie
Exact. Les enfants ont des ressources physiques insoupçonnables. Cf les sites d'expériences de familles voyageuses randonneuses pédestres ou cyclos sur ce forum + notre site alecoledesandes.com pour voir nos expériences de trek/randos en haute montagne avec nos enfants. Nous revenons d'un trek de 5 semaines dans la vallée de l'Everest (enfants de 11 et 13 ans). Ils furent d'une motivation importante tout au long du parcours. Oui, tout est dans la motivation de l'équipage !
Juillet n'est pas en effet la période adéquate pour les treks au népal (périodes convoitées par les trekkeurs : mars-avril ou octobre-novembre)
Exact. Les enfants ont des ressources physiques insoupçonnables. Cf les sites d'expériences de familles voyageuses randonneuses pédestres ou cyclos sur ce forum + notre site alecoledesandes.com pour voir nos expériences de trek/randos en haute montagne avec nos enfants. Nous revenons d'un trek de 5 semaines dans la vallée de l'Everest (enfants de 11 et 13 ans). Ils furent d'une motivation importante tout au long du parcours. Oui, tout est dans la motivation de l'équipage !
Juillet n'est pas en effet la période adéquate pour les treks au népal (périodes convoitées par les trekkeurs : mars-avril ou octobre-novembre)
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Bonjour
merci de m'avoir repondu .j'avais lu que juillet n'etait la meilleue periode , mais pleut il vraiment beaucoup est ce impraticable risque t'on de degouter notre fils.
Bonjour
merci de m'avoir repondu .j'avais lu que juillet n'etait la meilleue periode , mais pleut il vraiment beaucoup est ce impraticable risque t'on de degouter notre fils.
oui, la mousson c'est sangsue, pluie et gadoue sur les sentiers. Et vues sur les sommets complétement bouchées. Quand on randonne, ce n'est pas un détail : on ne voit rien ( la vue est la seule récompense des randonneurs, de surcroit des enfants, c'est une des motivations) aux cols et on ne peut faire des clichés. Quand il s'agit de l'Himalaya, c'est important.
oui, la mousson c'est sangsue, pluie et gadoue sur les sentiers. Et vues sur les sommets complétement bouchées. Quand on randonne, ce n'est pas un détail : on ne voit rien ( la vue est la seule récompense des randonneurs, de surcroit des enfants, c'est une des motivations) aux cols et on ne peut faire des clichés. Quand il s'agit de l'Himalaya, c'est important.
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bonjour
merci de ces precisions une agence nous popose de faire un treck dans la vallée de katmendu la personne nous a pas parler de la mousson;
nous allons peut etre revoir notre destination dommage j'avais tres envie d'y aller et me connaissant je vais peut etre vouloir tenter le coup ;
ou alors une autre destination pour faire un treck , si vous avez une proposition;
Bonne journée
bonjour
merci de ces precisions une agence nous popose de faire un treck dans la vallée de katmendu la personne nous a pas parler de la mousson;
La personne aurait du vous en parler, renseignez-vous plus... Cherchez ici sur le moteur de recherche les expériences de VFistes de treks dans la vallée de KTM l'été.
La personne aurait du vous en parler, renseignez-vous plus... Cherchez ici sur le moteur de recherche les expériences de VFistes de treks dans la vallée de KTM l'été.
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bonjour
merci de ces precisions une agence nous popose de faire un treck dans la vallée de katmendu la personne nous a pas parler de la mousson;
Et surtout changez d'agence : un agent de voyage qui ne vous décourage pas pour un treck au Népal en pleine mousson est soit totalement incompétent, soit parfaitement prêt à vous vendre n'importe quoi !! Non seulement il y a la pluie, les sensues, l'absence de visibilité et l'absence totale de récompense par la vue des paysages, mais en plus, compte tenu du nombre de villageois qui meurent chaque année à cette époque par les innondations et les glissement de terrain : non, vraiment, ce n'est pas du tout la période.
Au fait, KTM est déjà à 1300m d'altitude, alors pour le "treck" à moins de 300m, meiux vaut rester en France !
Et surtout changez d'agence : un agent de voyage qui ne vous décourage pas pour un treck au Népal en pleine mousson est soit totalement incompétent, soit parfaitement prêt à vous vendre n'importe quoi !! Non seulement il y a la pluie, les sensues, l'absence de visibilité et l'absence totale de récompense par la vue des paysages, mais en plus, compte tenu du nombre de villageois qui meurent chaque année à cette époque par les innondations et les glissement de terrain : non, vraiment, ce n'est pas du tout la période.
Au fait, KTM est déjà à 1300m d'altitude, alors pour le "treck" à moins de 300m, meiux vaut rester en France !
Bon je suis convaincu nous allons devoir changer de destination et pour l"altitude je me suis trompée je voulais dire 3000
merci de m'avoir repondu et pour l'agence un internaute l'avait conseille sur ce forum
Bonne journée
En juillet une très belle destination qui vous donnerait autant de satisfactions que le Népal ce serait le Pérou, par exemple le tour du Huayhuasch avec une petite acclimatation à Huaraz car l'altitude est élevée. Huaraz est à 3500 et l'ensemble du trek entre 3500 et 4500, mais aucune difficulté de marche. Mon épouse est lente et nous l'avons fait en treize jours à deux avec un guide cuisinier et un muletier (4 mules et deux chevaux)
Jeancricri
Bonjour
pourquoi pas c'est une bonne idée nous avions deja eu envie d'aller au perou.
Peux tu me donner plus de renseignement sur ton parcours .
le cout du treck?et le nom de l'agence ou celui du guide ?
depuis Lima comment fait on pour acceder au point de depart qu'elqu'un vous a pris en charge des votre arrivée a l'aeroport
sinon encore merci
Chine
Bonjour
Pour te rassurer sur l'altitude je te dirais que nous avons fait un treck au Ladakh avec nos 3 enfants dont le plus jeune avait 9 ans.
En altitude il marchait aussi bien que les autres. A cet age il n'y a pas d'effet particuliers sur l'acclimatation. Ce qui compte c'est de respecter leur force (étapes plus courtes) et de les tenir motivé.
Par contre pour les rencontres avec les locaux c'est fabuleux. Une expérience réellement à vivre.
ce n'est pas parce que vous n'avez pas eu de problémes d'acclimatation avec vos enfants que c'est général
Chine n'a aucune expérience de la vie en altitude
le Ladak c'est à + de 3000 m à l'arrivée
Qaunad au Pérou cordillérre blanche ou Rouge minimun 3000 m avec des cols à 4800 m 🤪🤪🤪
Chine n'a aucune expérience de la vie en altitude
le Ladak c'est à + de 3000 m à l'arrivée
Qaunad au Pérou cordillérre blanche ou Rouge minimun 3000 m avec des cols à 4800 m 🤪🤪🤪
Hasta la vista
Ce dont je vous fait part est notre expérience confrontée à celle de nombreuses autres personnes rencontrées sur place. Je ne suis pas médecin, et avant de partir nous avions pris de nombreux avis.
Pour vous tranquilliser vous pouvez aussi tester l'altitude en France. (aiguille du midi 3 842 m en téléphérique) Les personnes supportent beaucoup mieux quelles ne le pensent l'altitude. Tout se joue sur l'acclimatation. Il faut y aller doucement.
A 3000 m vous conservez 70% d'oxygène et à 4 500 m 57 %. Donc si tout se passe bien à 3000 m il y a toutes les chances pour que vous passiez plus haut. Les seuils (physiques et psychologiques ) sont au delà de 5 000 m. Cela laisse de la marge.
Ceci dit le Pérou est aussi une très belle région qui mérite le voyage.
Pour vous tranquilliser vous pouvez aussi tester l'altitude en France. (aiguille du midi 3 842 m en téléphérique) Les personnes supportent beaucoup mieux quelles ne le pensent l'altitude. Tout se joue sur l'acclimatation. Il faut y aller doucement.
A 3000 m vous conservez 70% d'oxygène et à 4 500 m 57 %. Donc si tout se passe bien à 3000 m il y a toutes les chances pour que vous passiez plus haut. Les seuils (physiques et psychologiques ) sont au delà de 5 000 m. Cela laisse de la marge.
Ceci dit le Pérou est aussi une très belle région qui mérite le voyage.
Pour vous tranquilliser vous pouvez aussi tester l'altitude en France. (aiguille du midi 3 842 m en téléphérique) Les personnes supportent beaucoup mieux quelles ne le pensent l'altitude. Tout se joue sur l'acclimatation. Il faut y aller doucement.
voila du grand n'importe quoi , le probléme n'est pas de monter à 3842 m puis de redescendre 1 aprés le probléme c'est vivre manger et dormir sur au moins 3 semaines . de plus la réponse à l'altitude est individuelle , et elle varie selon les endroits et les années en plus elle n'a rien à voir avec la condition physique générale
A 3000 m vous conservez 70% d'oxygène et à 4 500 m 57 %. Donc si tout se passe bien à 3000 m il y a toutes les chances pour que vous passiez plus haut. bienvenue dans le loto 🤪 Les seuils (physiques et psychologiques ) sont au delà de 5 000 m. Cela laisse de la marge.
Faux , cela dépend des individus , de la vitesse d'acclimatation , du lieu etc
Ceci dit le Pérou est aussi une très belle région qui mérite le voyage. certes mais en toute connaissance de cause , il y a ou il y avait dans certains hopitaux des consultations spécialises dans ces problémes ( Jean Verdier , Bondy par ex ) leur avis sera meilleur que le mien
voila du grand n'importe quoi , le probléme n'est pas de monter à 3842 m puis de redescendre 1 aprés le probléme c'est vivre manger et dormir sur au moins 3 semaines . de plus la réponse à l'altitude est individuelle , et elle varie selon les endroits et les années en plus elle n'a rien à voir avec la condition physique générale
A 3000 m vous conservez 70% d'oxygène et à 4 500 m 57 %. Donc si tout se passe bien à 3000 m il y a toutes les chances pour que vous passiez plus haut. bienvenue dans le loto 🤪 Les seuils (physiques et psychologiques ) sont au delà de 5 000 m. Cela laisse de la marge.
Faux , cela dépend des individus , de la vitesse d'acclimatation , du lieu etc
Ceci dit le Pérou est aussi une très belle région qui mérite le voyage. certes mais en toute connaissance de cause , il y a ou il y avait dans certains hopitaux des consultations spécialises dans ces problémes ( Jean Verdier , Bondy par ex ) leur avis sera meilleur que le mien
Hasta la vista
Je te dis simplement :
- Il faut respecter les principes de précaution mais ne pas en rajouter. Le site de ministère des affaires étrangère est déjà assez inquiétant à lui seul.
- il faut parler et partir en connaissance de cause. "Pendant des années, les spécialistes de la médecine d’altitude ont mis en garde contre un risque accru chez les enfants, ce qui ne reposait sur aucune étude scientifique, mais relevait d’un « principe de précaution »."
http://www.trekmag.com/Article/432-les-enfants-et-le-mal-aigu-des-montagnes.html
Pour faire pas mal de montagne le vrai vertige et le vrai mal des montagnes sont beaucoup plus rare qu'on ne le pense. La première cause et psychologique.
Fait un tour en montage et tu verra déjà les réactions de gens. C'est amusant. Si tu as peur, si tu ne le sens pas, ne parts pas car tu risquerais réellement de te mettre en danger.
Pour notre part, le médecin à conseillé une visite chez le cardiologue. On l'a fait. Il a donné sont feu vert. On lui a fait confiance.
- il faut parler et partir en connaissance de cause. "Pendant des années, les spécialistes de la médecine d’altitude ont mis en garde contre un risque accru chez les enfants, ce qui ne reposait sur aucune étude scientifique, mais relevait d’un « principe de précaution »."
http://www.trekmag.com/Article/432-les-enfants-et-le-mal-aigu-des-montagnes.html
Pour faire pas mal de montagne le vrai vertige et le vrai mal des montagnes sont beaucoup plus rare qu'on ne le pense. La première cause et psychologique.
Fait un tour en montage et tu verra déjà les réactions de gens. C'est amusant. Si tu as peur, si tu ne le sens pas, ne parts pas car tu risquerais réellement de te mettre en danger.
Pour notre part, le médecin à conseillé une visite chez le cardiologue. On l'a fait. Il a donné sont feu vert. On lui a fait confiance.
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We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots? Thanks in advance for your tips. We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries! Claire and Albert
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots? Thanks in advance for your tips. We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries! Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
Spots where we could pitch the tent near a stream
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
Hi everyone,
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.



