Trek au Népal, tour du Manaslu, Mustang
by Claude48
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour,
j'envisageais un trek sur le langtang à l'automne prochain, mais avant de prendre une décision définitive, je cherche à avoir des infos sur d'autres secteurs par exemple le tour du manaslu et le mustang. vous me direz certainement que c'est différent, je m'en doute, mais difficile de se déterminer. chaque région a ses atouts bien sûr mais quels conseils pourriez vous me donner pour me permettre de prendre position. merci
Namaste,
Je ne connais ni le Langtang ni le Mustang, mais j'ai fait le tour du Manaslu en octobre dernier ( grand soleil !!!) et ... j'ai adoré !!!!! C'était mon 4e trek au Népal après 2 dans les Annapurnas et 1 au Dolpo, mais c'est sans aucun doute celui que j'ai préféré !!! La région du Manaslu est simplement magnifique, avec des paysages variés et des vues splendides sur le Manaslu, le Bouddha Himal et les Ganesh Himal... Que dire du lever de soleil sur le Manaslu depuis Shyalla... simplement majestueux et inoubliable !!!!!🙂 Les gens sont "encore" authentiques contrairement aux Annapurnas par exemple. Si tu veux avoir un petit aperçu de ce fantastique trek va faire un tour sur le site i-trekkings, il y a un carnet de trekking ( ici : http://www.i-trekkings.net/dossiers/dossiers.php?val=2265_tour+manaslu ) et une petite vidéo bien sympa sur notre trek ( ici : http://www.i-trekkings.net/Xdossiers/dossiers.php?val=405_tour+manaslu )! Petite précision : trek réalisé avec Huwans Clubaventure qui travaille sur place avec l'agence base camp trekking ( Lazimpat, KAthmandou), notre guide Bikas étant originaire de la région nous avons pu passer dans sa famille. De moments très émouvants !!! Je te recommande cette agence et ce guide très professionnel ( 2 treks avec lui)
Si ton choix se porte sur le Manaslu tu ne seras pas déçu !!!
Je ne connais ni le Langtang ni le Mustang, mais j'ai fait le tour du Manaslu en octobre dernier ( grand soleil !!!) et ... j'ai adoré !!!!! C'était mon 4e trek au Népal après 2 dans les Annapurnas et 1 au Dolpo, mais c'est sans aucun doute celui que j'ai préféré !!! La région du Manaslu est simplement magnifique, avec des paysages variés et des vues splendides sur le Manaslu, le Bouddha Himal et les Ganesh Himal... Que dire du lever de soleil sur le Manaslu depuis Shyalla... simplement majestueux et inoubliable !!!!!🙂 Les gens sont "encore" authentiques contrairement aux Annapurnas par exemple. Si tu veux avoir un petit aperçu de ce fantastique trek va faire un tour sur le site i-trekkings, il y a un carnet de trekking ( ici : http://www.i-trekkings.net/dossiers/dossiers.php?val=2265_tour+manaslu ) et une petite vidéo bien sympa sur notre trek ( ici : http://www.i-trekkings.net/Xdossiers/dossiers.php?val=405_tour+manaslu )! Petite précision : trek réalisé avec Huwans Clubaventure qui travaille sur place avec l'agence base camp trekking ( Lazimpat, KAthmandou), notre guide Bikas étant originaire de la région nous avons pu passer dans sa famille. De moments très émouvants !!! Je te recommande cette agence et ce guide très professionnel ( 2 treks avec lui)
Si ton choix se porte sur le Manaslu tu ne seras pas déçu !!!
merci pour ta réponse. j'ai écarté le mustang non pas pour son intérêt c'est superbe, mais le permis du trek est élevé + les vols, le tout est relativement cher.
pour le tour du manaslu j'ai des infos et des tarifs, c'est sûr que les paysages doivent être somptueux, sans doute plus spectaculaires que le langtang.
par contre, peux tu me parler de la qualité des lodges, sans chercher bien sûr le top !!! j'ai fréquenté le kumbu et les annapurnas, il y avait un peu de tout...mais dans l'ensemble plutôt correct. en plus si problèmes, peut on être pris en charge rapidement ? cette question également car j'ai aussi entendu que cette région plus éloignée et moins fréquentée pouvait peut être poser quelques difficultés sanitaires. je sais que ce trek est plus difficile mais ce n'est pas mon souci, c'est plutôt les aspects hébergements, et assistances qui m'interpellen.
merci de tes infos
Namaste,
Pour ce qui est des hébergements il y a maintenant de plus en plus de lodges sur le tour du Manaslu ( dans quasiment tous les villages). Franchement je n'ai pas contasté qu'ils étaient moins "confortables" ( tout est relatif... bien sur) que sur les Annapurnas. Je les ai tous trouvés correct : que ce soit pour l'épaisseur du matelas, la nourriture après pas toujours de douches ( Shyalla, Sama Gaon, Samdo, Larke Phedi et bhimtang) mais possibilité d'avoir une bassine d'eau chaude quasiment à chaque fois (après ça dépend du choix du lodge...). Pour l'assistance ne je pense pas que cela pose des problèmes. Quand nous étions entre Samdo et Larke Phedi, l'hélico est venu chercher un groupe qui n'avait pas respecté "les règles" ( montée trop rapide...) de l'acclimatation car certaines personnes souffraient du MAM. J'espère avoir répondu à tes questions... si tu en as d'autres je serai ravie de te répondre !!!
Pour ce qui est des hébergements il y a maintenant de plus en plus de lodges sur le tour du Manaslu ( dans quasiment tous les villages). Franchement je n'ai pas contasté qu'ils étaient moins "confortables" ( tout est relatif... bien sur) que sur les Annapurnas. Je les ai tous trouvés correct : que ce soit pour l'épaisseur du matelas, la nourriture après pas toujours de douches ( Shyalla, Sama Gaon, Samdo, Larke Phedi et bhimtang) mais possibilité d'avoir une bassine d'eau chaude quasiment à chaque fois (après ça dépend du choix du lodge...). Pour l'assistance ne je pense pas que cela pose des problèmes. Quand nous étions entre Samdo et Larke Phedi, l'hélico est venu chercher un groupe qui n'avait pas respecté "les règles" ( montée trop rapide...) de l'acclimatation car certaines personnes souffraient du MAM. J'espère avoir répondu à tes questions... si tu en as d'autres je serai ravie de te répondre !!!
Namasté,
Merci pour ta réponse, effectivement je pense que l'on trouve plus de lodges, et si ce trek devient populaire les conditions devraient s'améliorer encore. Sans chercher un confort absolu, c'est quand même un peu plus sympa de se retrouver dans un lodge avec un minimum de confort et prendre un bon repas chaud ! surtout après des heures d'effort... J'ai connu aussi un peu de tout sur le Sanctuaire et dans la région de l'Everest, la majorité étant confortables mais d'autres ....moins évidents ! Peux tu me communiquer les étapes du circuit que je puisse comparer avec la proposition reçue. Je pense que ce trek peut se faire en 12 j ou 13 ...merci
Merci pour ta réponse, effectivement je pense que l'on trouve plus de lodges, et si ce trek devient populaire les conditions devraient s'améliorer encore. Sans chercher un confort absolu, c'est quand même un peu plus sympa de se retrouver dans un lodge avec un minimum de confort et prendre un bon repas chaud ! surtout après des heures d'effort... J'ai connu aussi un peu de tout sur le Sanctuaire et dans la région de l'Everest, la majorité étant confortables mais d'autres ....moins évidents ! Peux tu me communiquer les étapes du circuit que je puisse comparer avec la proposition reçue. Je pense que ce trek peut se faire en 12 j ou 13 ...merci
Salut,
Les goûts et les couleurs...
Question paysages (uniquement) j'ai trouvé le tour des Annapurnas plus varié et plus beau que le tour du Manaslu.( j'ai fait le premier en 1986 et le second en 1991) Si tu vas au Manaslu ne manque pas de faire un tour dans la Tsum vallée!! Il reste que le Manaslu est certainement encore actuellement plus "traditionnel" et moins commercial dans sa population ses villages etc.. Les Annapurnas sont désormais envahis et la construction de la route leur enlève leur tout le charme
Si tu fais un trek sur le Langtang ne manque pas de faire aussi le "Tamang heritage trail" c'est dans le même esprit que le Manaslu.. les Tamang de cette région ont gardé presque intactes(jusqu'en 2010) leurs coutumes et leurs villages n'ont pas changé ( toujours pas de toles ondulées sur les toits!) l'aspect commercial y était quasiment absent. ( cf la photo de mon avatar)
A l'automne prochain j'envisage un trek vers le Dolpo en suivant le chemin de Peter Mathiessen( le léopard des neiges) départ de Pokhara-Beni direction du Dhaulagiri vers Moreni Gurja ghat etc... le Jalja la... etc.. Pelma Dhule Saure Khola et Tarakot suivi d'un tour dans le Dolpo proprement dit.. Et je cherche des coéquipiers...
Les goûts et les couleurs...
Question paysages (uniquement) j'ai trouvé le tour des Annapurnas plus varié et plus beau que le tour du Manaslu.( j'ai fait le premier en 1986 et le second en 1991) Si tu vas au Manaslu ne manque pas de faire un tour dans la Tsum vallée!! Il reste que le Manaslu est certainement encore actuellement plus "traditionnel" et moins commercial dans sa population ses villages etc.. Les Annapurnas sont désormais envahis et la construction de la route leur enlève leur tout le charme
Si tu fais un trek sur le Langtang ne manque pas de faire aussi le "Tamang heritage trail" c'est dans le même esprit que le Manaslu.. les Tamang de cette région ont gardé presque intactes(jusqu'en 2010) leurs coutumes et leurs villages n'ont pas changé ( toujours pas de toles ondulées sur les toits!) l'aspect commercial y était quasiment absent. ( cf la photo de mon avatar)
A l'automne prochain j'envisage un trek vers le Dolpo en suivant le chemin de Peter Mathiessen( le léopard des neiges) départ de Pokhara-Beni direction du Dhaulagiri vers Moreni Gurja ghat etc... le Jalja la... etc.. Pelma Dhule Saure Khola et Tarakot suivi d'un tour dans le Dolpo proprement dit.. Et je cherche des coéquipiers...
je n'ai encore rien décidé, mais c'est vrai que la lecture de plusieurs récits et les photos sur le tour du Manaslu me motivent de plus en plus.
le passage du col Larkya à + de 5000 m doit être sûrement encombré de neige et de glace fin octobre début novembre. Je me souviens que le 31/10/2006 la montée à partir de Lobuche vers Gorbache et le Kalapatar à 5630 m était vierge...penses tu préférable dans ce cas d'avancer vers mi-octobre par exemple ou sans ne change rien.
Voici les étapes de notre trek :
Départ Baluwa,
J1 : Baluwa - Barpak
J2 : Barpak - Singla
J3 : Singla - Tatopani ( et ses sources d'eau chaude !!!! :) )
J4 : Tatopani - Sirdibas
J5 : Sirdibas - Deng
J6 : Deng - Namrung
J7 : Namrung - Shyalla
J8 : Shyalla - Sama Gaon
J9 : Sama Gaon - Samdo
J10 : Samdo - Larke Phedi
J11 : Larke Phedi - Bhimtang
J12 : Bhimtang - Dharapani
J13 : Dharapani - Jagat
Et J14 : Jagat - Besisahar en jeep puis Besisahar - KTM en bus
Après pour la présence de neige ou pas au col je ne sais pas quoi te dire... Moi je l'ai passé le 19 octobre et il avait neigé 2 jours avant mais au final même pas 1 cm de neige !!! Alors que j'ai fait le Thorung ( sur les Annapurnas) en avril et il y avait 15 cm de neige... La seule chose que je peux te dire c'est que la descente du col peut-être un peu "galère" avec de la neige. Perso j'avais dans mon sac des semelles en pvc avec des clous ( on en trouve au vieux campeur et sur internet).
Après pour la présence de neige ou pas au col je ne sais pas quoi te dire... Moi je l'ai passé le 19 octobre et il avait neigé 2 jours avant mais au final même pas 1 cm de neige !!! Alors que j'ai fait le Thorung ( sur les Annapurnas) en avril et il y avait 15 cm de neige... La seule chose que je peux te dire c'est que la descente du col peut-être un peu "galère" avec de la neige. Perso j'avais dans mon sac des semelles en pvc avec des clous ( on en trouve au vieux campeur et sur internet).
Bonjour,
J'ai fait le Tsum Valley et Manaslu en octobre 2012 et c'est fabuleux. Si possible, il ne faut pas rater Tsum (7 jours aller-retour), plus authentique encore, car on commence à construire beaucoup de lodges à Manaslu. Les lodges sont en général d'assez bonne qualité et propre, la nourriture est bonne aussi.
J'ai fait le tout en 22 jours en prenant mon temps et en partant d'Arughat, à conseiller car de très beaux paysages et cascades dès le début. Retour à Bhulbule mais il y a des jeeps à partir de Chamse maintenant.
J'ai traversé le Larkye le 14 octobre et il y avait déjà un peu de neige, donc il vaut mieux aller le plus tôt possible.
JP
c'est très sympa de ta part, mais j'organise un trek avec un groupe quasiment constitué et je ne m'oriente pas vers le Mustang, c'est sans aucun doute très beau mais le permis est très cher puis il y a 2 vols avec quelques fois des soucis météo. Donc je reste sur le Manaslu ou le Langtang.
merci encore
Bonjour !
J'ai fait le Tour du Manaslu (Arughat -> Bhulbhule) en novembre 2012. Premier séjour au Népal, premier trek et gros coup de cœur ! C'était vraiment très beau.
Concernant la neige, je peux te dire que le 16 novembre, il n'y en avait pas du tout à Larke Pass. Mais je suppose que c'est très variable ! Nos guides nous ont raconté la traversée du col dans des conditions épiques (et ils étaient équipés de piolets en cas de surprise). Concernant l'hébergement, nous étions sous tente, mais c'est vrai qu'on voit beaucoup de lodges neufs/en construction. Donc aucun problème pour le logement, je pense !
Bonne préparation 🙂
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Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
Spots where we could pitch the tent near a stream
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
Hi everyone,
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.



