Various ideas to revive/improve the site
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
There’s already a discussion about travel journals.

You can find it here:

https://voyageforum.com/forum/sommes-nous-raseurs-avec-nos-recits-voyages-d4435857-2/
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Yep, yep. A thread I’d already weighed in on 😎 True, re-reading myself I realize I can come off a bit harsh sometimes. Guess I just say things straight the way I see ‘em—I must get that from my mom.

The thread was started back in the day by Jemaflor, who quoted an author whose words had me laughing because there was so much truth in them. Those slide projections after family vacations when I was a kid—I could never get enough. But other people’s travel photos, when they weren’t interesting? That was pure suffering, endured out of politeness.

It was pretty surprising that it was Jemaflor who kicked off that kind of topic, given how amazing his travel journals are—way too few glowing comments on those, if you ask me. Such is life.
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
You didn’t reply in the right thread...😇
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Really, I think you're being quite harsh this time (and with your post, I bet 3 travel journals will stop dead in their tracks 😄).

Phew, we're safe—those journals didn’t stop after all. When someone doesn’t care much about others, they’re often immune to criticism. I kept following one of the journals, especially since the author is nice. The other one, though, wasn’t possible. Too bad, because the topic interested me, and there were unique stops. But you get it—mom in almost every photo? Not for me.

Though, you could argue that if just one person does that, it adds a touch of originality and diversity to the journals... Well, she already had a unique tone and raw but honest reflections that I didn’t mind, and I saw you agreed.

Anyway, aside from that, there’s also a pet phrase we sometimes have to endure in journals: the infamous "Can I tag along?" or "Is there room for me in your 4x4?" It’s a cute line the first five times you read it, even if you unconsciously sense it’s a bit silly. It’s the kind of gimmick lightweight minds can repeat endlessly with delight—and that quickly grates on others. Seriously, after a while, some people find it exasperating. Sometimes, you’ll get a whole page of it in a journal, and honestly, it just doesn’t work. It reminds me of those phrases people repeat nonstop the second they hear or read them somewhere, like "it’s good for the planet" or "consume in moderation."

Sure, the intention is good at first. It really depends on whether you like marshmallow fluff. And as others might say, it’s still better than indifference.
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Hi Joël, As much as I agree with rejecting the “family album” idea—even though, like you, I found the topic interesting (and for good reason ;))—I think you’re being a bit harsh on that famous 4x4 maxim. It’s one way (I’ll admit, a bit cheesy) to remind the author they’re not alone in their travel journal (even if the view count doesn’t necessarily reflect the number of active readers). Since I can tell you’re on a roll, I’ll let you suggest more appealing phrases to the lighthearted and marshmallow-loving crowd to encourage authors to keep going (because if no one reads the journals, what’s the point?)
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
-Move posts back to the correct discussion threads (Attila)
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Since I can tell you're on a roll, I'll let you introduce lighter spirits and marshmallow lovers to turns of phrase more to your taste to encourage authors to keep going (because if no one reads the travel journals, what's the point?)

Those who love huffing and puffing over clichés aren’t likely to change their minds. You could even see it as a bit childish. And what’s the point of replacing one person’s expression with another’s?
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I don’t see any specific ideas in your message for reviving or improving the site.

Could you share them in plain terms?

Thanks
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
No, not really. Maybe I’ve already said too much.

I don’t have any other ideas for improving a site whose setup has seemed remarkable to me from the start. There are so many sites that have changed their layout multiple times, and each time it’s worse, that I hope the folks at VF don’t get the same idea.
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
This has already been done for the multiple changes on VF. If you look around, you’ll find the first version online. 😛
VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
Those who love huffing and puffing clichés

Here’s an oxymoron (and maybe even two).

"Those who focus too much on small things usually become incapable of great ones." La Rochefoucauld

@Attila

Limit the number of posts from ultracrepidarians. 😇
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Limit the number of exchanges on a swap-based site?😮

(Not a new idea...)
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Limit the number of exchanges on a swap-based site?

(Not a new idea...)

Or maybe limit the number of messages from those who have over 5,000 under their belt? I was about to write "I'm out," but that’s also one of those expressions that drive me nuts 😉
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Phew, I've got some breathing room...😇

There’s a daily message limit for new users. After a few posts, it disappears.

It can be frustrating for newcomers because usually, your first post is a question, and if you want to ask for more details, you’ve got to wait.

- Remove the daily message limit for new users. (Attila)

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