À vélo à l'Euro Foot 2012 en Pologne et en Ukraine
by 178jules
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Il me plairait d'aller en Pologne et en Ukraine à L'euro foot 2012, non pas voir un ou des match (beaucoup trop cher), mais simplement assister aux avants et après matchs, se mélanger à la foule, observer et photographier.
Y aller seul me semble irréaliste, je ne parle que le Français.
Y aurait il un groupe, qui projette ce périple, dans lequel je pourrai me joindre. Je peux aussi rassembler un groupe, mais je ne souhaite pas être le leader ni l'organisateur principal, je n'ai aucune expérience à l'étranger en vélo. J'ai fait en 2010 la Garonne et le canal du midi et cette année la véloroute 6 d'Orléans à Mulhouse. Je suis un retraité de 67 ans capable de rouler jusqu'à 100/130 km. par jour
Qui serait intéressé par ce projet.
Jules
"Ne cherche pas à suivre les traces d'un autre, cherche plutôt à savoir ce qu'il cherchait."
Salut Jules
Voilà un beau projet que tu proposes. Pour ma part je serai en Pologne avant le début de l'Euro, vers avril puis après en septembre, je ne serai donc pas de la partie mais j'espère que tu trouveras des cyclos motivés de découvrir 2 pays en fête pendant quelques semaines.
Bonjour Bayernd,
Merci de ta réponse, tu es le seul à ce jour. Je croyais démarrer une discussion animée mais ???? Cela me surprend que personne n'ait envie d'aller à l'Euro en vélo en Ukraine et Pologne. Je suis en train de me persuader d'y aller seul. J'hésite entre 2 routes:
L'une au nord par le bord de mer, Belgique, Hollande, Allemagne et Pologne. L'autre par la Véloroute 6 en partant de Mulhouse jusqu'à Budapest et ensuite bifurquer vers l'Ukraine.
Me laissez pas seul les copains!
Jules
"Ne cherche pas à suivre les traces d'un autre, cherche plutôt à savoir ce qu'il cherchait."
C'est étonnant que personne veut y aller !
Pourtant il y aura pas mal de supporters surement
Je t'aurais bien accompagner mais je serais pris à cette date et le foot dsl je préfère le basket.😉
J'espère que tu trouveras du monde.
Je t'aurais bien accompagner mais je serais pris à cette date et le foot dsl je préfère le basket.😉
J'espère que tu trouveras du monde.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jf8eiQKwVQ
Diaporama sur mon voyage à vélo de l'été 2009
Merci de ta réponse,
Je ne suis pas fana de foot non plus, juste les matchs télévisés et encore j'ai bien du mal à aller au bout. Idem pour le rugby qui devient de plus en plus stéréotypé. C'est le côté liesse populaire dans 2 pays possédants une autre culture que la notre qui m'intéresse.
Oui, je suis également surpris que cela n'intéresse personne, ou j'ai mal présenté la chose????
Jules
"Ne cherche pas à suivre les traces d'un autre, cherche plutôt à savoir ce qu'il cherchait."
salut jules
je voudrais savoir qu'elles sont les dates prévues pour ce périple
j'ai 63 ans , l'année passée j'ai fait seul Besançon Constenta en Roumanie ,3200 km en 35 jours , je pense donner une suite en direction par exemple de l'Ukraine , direction Kiev , mais en prenant plus de temps pour visiter , donc il me faudrait savoir qu'elles sont les villes pour l'euro et à qu'elle date . au plaisir de te lire .
j'ai 63 ans , l'année passée j'ai fait seul Besançon Constenta en Roumanie ,3200 km en 35 jours , je pense donner une suite en direction par exemple de l'Ukraine , direction Kiev , mais en prenant plus de temps pour visiter , donc il me faudrait savoir qu'elles sont les villes pour l'euro et à qu'elle date . au plaisir de te lire .
Bonsoir Peregrinos,
Merci de ta réponse.
Pour l'instant je n'ai que les dates de début et de fin, voici ce que j'ai relevé:
Le Championnat d'Europe UEFA de football 2012 est la quatorzième édition du
Voila tout ce que je sais pour l'instant
Cordialement
jules
Le Championnat d'Europe UEFA de football 2012 est la quatorzième édition du
Voila tout ce que je sais pour l'instant
Cordialement
jules"Ne cherche pas à suivre les traces d'un autre, cherche plutôt à savoir ce qu'il cherchait."
Les villes ne sont pas passées en copier coller, j'essaie autrement:
En Pologne: Varsovie, Poznan, Wroclaw, Gdansk
En Ukraine:Kiev, Donetsk, Kharkiv, Lviv Jules
En Pologne: Varsovie, Poznan, Wroclaw, Gdansk
En Ukraine:Kiev, Donetsk, Kharkiv, Lviv Jules
"Ne cherche pas à suivre les traces d'un autre, cherche plutôt à savoir ce qu'il cherchait."
Salut Jules,
Je serai sur mon vélo à ce moment là mais pt être un peu plus au sud (genre Balkans / Turquie). J'adore le foot et j'aimerais bcp assisté à une fête pareille mais niveau budget, ça doit douiller pas mal en tickets et en logement surtout ! Les hôteliers vont profiter un max de cette période là (à juste titre...) pr augmenter abusivement leurs tarifs !
C'est plus personnel mais je connais bien le foot (et le sport en général) et je n'aime pas trop la tournure que prend l'organisation de ces grandes compétitions internationales (Euro, Coupe du Monde, JO). Elles sont devenues des machines à faire du fric, mondialisées, médiatisées, calibrées, et qui ne mettent pas forcément en valeur les pays organisateurs ds ce déversement de publicités et d'argent... Ca manque un peu d'âme quoi !
Reste qd même les supporters (les + riches) qui assurent la fête heureusement...
C'est pourquoi, j'ai un peu rayé ces pays là de mon passage... Je ne veux pas te faire un tableau noir mais c'est peut être pr ça que tu n'as pas bcp de réponses positives. En tt cas bon courage dans la réalisation de ton projet !
Je serai sur mon vélo à ce moment là mais pt être un peu plus au sud (genre Balkans / Turquie). J'adore le foot et j'aimerais bcp assisté à une fête pareille mais niveau budget, ça doit douiller pas mal en tickets et en logement surtout ! Les hôteliers vont profiter un max de cette période là (à juste titre...) pr augmenter abusivement leurs tarifs !
C'est plus personnel mais je connais bien le foot (et le sport en général) et je n'aime pas trop la tournure que prend l'organisation de ces grandes compétitions internationales (Euro, Coupe du Monde, JO). Elles sont devenues des machines à faire du fric, mondialisées, médiatisées, calibrées, et qui ne mettent pas forcément en valeur les pays organisateurs ds ce déversement de publicités et d'argent... Ca manque un peu d'âme quoi !
Reste qd même les supporters (les + riches) qui assurent la fête heureusement...
C'est pourquoi, j'ai un peu rayé ces pays là de mon passage... Je ne veux pas te faire un tableau noir mais c'est peut être pr ça que tu n'as pas bcp de réponses positives. En tt cas bon courage dans la réalisation de ton projet !
Bonsoir,
Merci de vos réponses, je me prépare à y aller seul, finalement comme challenge ce n'est pas mal.
En plus ma date de départ est flottante, en effet je fait de la voile en compétition (régates, voir ma photo à gauche) et pour l'instant je suis champion de Picardie (à 67 ans???), 3 sur 6 épreuves disputées. La dernière à lieu le 10 juin, l'avant dernière le 6 mai. Si au soir du 6 mai je suis toujours dans les clous, je régate le 10 juin et pars le 11 juin de l'Oise, sinon je pars vers les 7 - 15 mai.
Je ne suis plus du tout sûr d'arriver au moment des matchs. C'était plus l'occasion que le but. Et j'aurai moins de monde.
Jules
"Ne cherche pas à suivre les traces d'un autre, cherche plutôt à savoir ce qu'il cherchait."
Bonsoir,
Je viens de voir votre post qui datent déjà un peu... Je préviens de suite, n'étant pas très adepte du vélo, j'y vais par un autre moyen de transport, ) Mais j'y ajoute ma contribution si cela peux vous aider.
Tout d'abord, peu de monde a répondu probablement car même si le football passionne pas mal de monde, le fait que cela se trouve dans deux pays de l'est, et surtout que cet Euro va attirer une très grosse masse de fans (notamment Anglais, Hollandais, Irlandais, Allemands, Russes...), cela ne convient pas forcément à tout le monde... le fait de s'aventurer dans ces deux pays qui vont être surpeuplés pendant 3 semaines. De plus, en vélo.... les distances sont quand même très conséquentes (A titre d'exemple Paris-Kiev représente presque 5000km A/R!!!)
Avez vous penser à faire une partie en train avec votre vélo (par exemple jusque en Allemagne)? Cela vous éviterai déjà une grand nombre de km et vous pourriez plus en profiter pour rouler dans ces deux pays qui sont déjà très grand.
Pour les dates, horaires, lieux et détails des matchs, vous trouverez tout ici (compétition se déroulant du 8juin au 1er juillet): http://www.pogotte.fr/calendrier-match-euro-2012/
En tout cas et pour finir, si vous recherchez de l'ambiance, de la folie, des places de centre villes bondés, de la bières coulant à flots, une atmosphère spéciale, des personnes des quatre coins de l'Europe réuni dans ces quelques villes... vous serez servi, )
Y allant également et commençant à préparer cela, si vous avez des questions, n'hésitez pas (matchs, logement, location d'appartements ou autre....)
Cordialement
Je viens de voir votre post qui datent déjà un peu... Je préviens de suite, n'étant pas très adepte du vélo, j'y vais par un autre moyen de transport, ) Mais j'y ajoute ma contribution si cela peux vous aider.
Tout d'abord, peu de monde a répondu probablement car même si le football passionne pas mal de monde, le fait que cela se trouve dans deux pays de l'est, et surtout que cet Euro va attirer une très grosse masse de fans (notamment Anglais, Hollandais, Irlandais, Allemands, Russes...), cela ne convient pas forcément à tout le monde... le fait de s'aventurer dans ces deux pays qui vont être surpeuplés pendant 3 semaines. De plus, en vélo.... les distances sont quand même très conséquentes (A titre d'exemple Paris-Kiev représente presque 5000km A/R!!!)
Avez vous penser à faire une partie en train avec votre vélo (par exemple jusque en Allemagne)? Cela vous éviterai déjà une grand nombre de km et vous pourriez plus en profiter pour rouler dans ces deux pays qui sont déjà très grand.
Pour les dates, horaires, lieux et détails des matchs, vous trouverez tout ici (compétition se déroulant du 8juin au 1er juillet): http://www.pogotte.fr/calendrier-match-euro-2012/
En tout cas et pour finir, si vous recherchez de l'ambiance, de la folie, des places de centre villes bondés, de la bières coulant à flots, une atmosphère spéciale, des personnes des quatre coins de l'Europe réuni dans ces quelques villes... vous serez servi, )
Y allant également et commençant à préparer cela, si vous avez des questions, n'hésitez pas (matchs, logement, location d'appartements ou autre....)
Cordialement
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I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
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hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance





